N1BOS — broadcast 20260810 153000 UTC 384 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] and what happens in the end nothing, he says [00:00:03] cases are still falling, he says, they are apologizing there, this, well, [00:00:07] wait, how do they send a message to citizens? It means, do [00:00:10] evaluations, do it was done like that in my time, [00:00:14] a spectacle was never made when it comes to something small, but here, for example, now when these [00:00:17] two shootings happened [00:00:21] in Eastern Sarajevo, on the [00:00:24] entity line, there was a noticeable presence of federal [00:00:28] police... with long barrels, what [00:00:32] was, what was the goal of that action, to prevent [00:00:36] perpetrators from crossing into another entity or? No, no, no, no, [00:00:39] you see, that means, you see, there was a presence of both [00:00:43] RS police and federal police, and there was much more presence [00:00:47] of federal police than from Republika Srpska, so you see, that means they do their [00:00:50] job better then, if there was a greater presence, although I [00:00:54] crossed this administrative [00:00:57] line of ours and I saw both... a large number of [00:01:01] police officers on one side and a large number of police officers on the other side, [00:01:04] and that is normal, that means that is normal police procedure [00:01:08] in moments when those clashes that are happening [00:01:12] are happening. And how do you comment on that, of course it's not within your jurisdiction, especially since it's [00:01:16] in another entity, but that reaction of the police, [00:01:20] uh, in Eastern [00:01:23] people describe it as lukewarm, that attempt to negotiate [00:01:26] with one of the perpetrators of attempted murder. [00:01:31] You see, no, you see, it would be incorrect for me to comment, [00:01:35] because, but as someone with many years of political, [00:01:39] I assume you have an opinion on that, of course I have an opinion, but [00:01:43] you see, we must understand one, one this [00:01:47] circumstance, we don't know everything, this, what [00:01:50] happened, that means we, citizens, here I, as [00:01:54] a citizen, can say, not just a minister, normally I don't have all the information about what [00:01:58] happened and why. In [00:02:00] Administration. They publicly said at Sarajevo, in your area of responsibility, would the police reaction be [00:02:04] more rigorous, here I can only, I can only answer that simply, briefly, [00:02:07] the persons who committed that act would be deprived of liberty, [00:02:11] well, I think that's correct of me, I can say that it has been [00:02:15] proven in many cases, you know very well where we had the same [00:02:18] or similar situations in the areas of the federation, we can say that [00:02:22] all persons who were participants [00:02:25] in such or similar criminal acts were deprived of liberty, the rest is [00:02:29] competent... again, we go back to the same prosecution of the courts where [00:02:33] we cannot intervene, that means citizens must [00:02:36] understand that the police do their job, everything else is the responsibility [00:02:40] of someone else, at the moment when I was working, our time [00:02:44] was not like that, we police officers practically [00:02:47] did 90% of things and our proposals that then [00:02:51] went to, then there was no this, uh, then there was an investigative [00:02:54] judge, if you remember, he led the investigation, he [00:02:58] you need to avoid that mostly acted on our proposals, now it's a little [00:03:02] different, do I agree with this, [00:03:06] I, as a person who dealt with these matters, [00:03:09] I don't think this is quite adequate, I think it can be done [00:03:13] much better, much more efficiently and [00:03:16] I think there should be stronger, more [00:03:19] qualitative coordination, [00:03:22] communication, a way of functioning [00:03:25] between police [00:03:27] agencies, judicial institutions. Of course, [00:03:31] citizens, because citizens this coordination, did what [00:03:35] happened in Bugojno spoil the coordination of police agencies in [00:03:38] Bosnia and Herzegovina, did it disturb it in some way and, well, you see, [00:03:42] endanger it, well, you see, did it cause an incident, yes, [00:03:46] did it endanger it, no, because there was an immediate reaction from both [00:03:49] sides, we must be honest, that means their director immediately [00:03:53] contacted our responsible ones, [00:03:56] measures were taken that needed to be taken in accordance with, in accordance with... [00:04:00] procedures, in accordance with the law, they will initiate [00:04:03] their procedures, we initiated our part, we sent everything that was needed [00:04:07] to the competent institutions, so it's not, maybe this [00:04:10] is good what happened and what happened in such a way that [00:04:14] we send a message that such things cannot happen, [00:04:18] that there are these police agencies in the [00:04:20] areas of the federation that will, in accordance with the law, do everything [00:04:24] necessary to not endanger the safety of citizens, so that means [00:04:28] we can say that perhaps... You see, as they say, in every [00:04:31] evil there is some good, in this evil it is good that we [00:04:35] sent a serious, professional, quality message, that if I had been [00:04:38] the Minister of Police when this happened in Potočari, if my [00:04:42] people had coordinated then, it would not have happened, I assure [00:04:45] you, it would not have happened, because everything can be coordinated, [00:04:49] communicated, and adequate measures taken, because [00:04:52] you see, an important point is to take a measure that will not [00:04:56] lead to an incident. I, at the moment of communication with... with [00:05:00] directors, with these commissioners, [00:05:03] of course, with my fellow ministers, we looked at how to do it [00:05:07] in accordance with the law, to take... one [00:05:10] is our perspective, the other is the perspective of police officers on the ground who may [00:05:14] have been confronted, they are professional, they have shown their [00:05:18] professionalism and they have shown quality, I tell [00:05:21] you, I officially praised [00:05:24] these police officers who participated, of course, and [00:05:27] the commissioner, I personally called after our calls, conversations, everything [00:05:31] when it was finished, to personally congratulate him, because [00:05:35] you see, we must, uh, as we know how to [00:05:38] criticize certain things that are not in order, you know very well when there are failures [00:05:41] of the police and so on, in the same way we should praise those who do their [00:05:45] job well, so that people see that someone [00:05:49] recognizes that quality, that no one, that their training that they do every [00:05:53] day, when they perform it qualitatively in the field, that it [00:05:56] is not a useless exercise, that it is an exercise that is needed by this country, and [00:06:00] believe me, I must be honest, police [00:06:03] agencies in the areas of Bosnia and Herzegovina as a whole, [00:06:07] are certainly on a high task, please, here [00:06:11] please, I always criticize. Then some come and beg me, Minister, don't, [00:06:14] you provoke revolt there, then they think, how [00:06:18] will you, what will you, I can't do anything, I don't fear any god, here, [00:06:22] I ask the judicial institutions to follow [00:06:25] the work of police agencies a little more, to give them a little [00:06:28] better support, because quality support for police [00:06:32] agencies, because that police officer, he has [00:06:34] a feeling, he assesses the situation better than you [00:06:38] there in the office when you get it, so respect their proposals. [00:06:42] Here, and you will see how we will have an even better, even more qualitative [00:06:46] situation, our time is slowly running out and there are a few more topics that I would like to [00:06:49] discuss, uh, in recent days you have been present in the media regarding [00:06:53] the topic of legal regulation of [00:06:56] gender change, and then uh, it was speculated whether it was [00:07:00] your proposal, not your proposal, you reacted somewhat sharply to [00:07:04] that information, as if you are afraid of standing behind [00:07:07] a proposal that is not yours, what is the problem for, well, you see, I am not afraid [00:07:10] of anything, people are... really strange, I am a person who never [00:07:14] justifies himself and is not afraid, but you see, my [00:07:18] colleagues from this political, no, my colleagues [00:07:22] from that political option that started it, you know, that means [00:07:25] my colleagues from that political option which is currently in opposition who started [00:07:29] it, who, you see, but they didn't make any mistake, to [00:07:32] cut a long story short, it's their obligation in accordance with the law, they had to [00:07:36] do it and they did their part of the job, and when they finished their [00:07:40] part of the job, when it was announced that they finished that part of the job, not me, [00:07:44] they finished, then they started to criticize me, then [00:07:48] they started to spread untruths, they, they stated that [00:07:51] I started the initiative that someone can change [00:07:55] gender, well, I can start an initiative that someone can change something, neither am I [00:07:58] authorized nor can I do that, that means they tried to spin [00:08:02] to the citizens as if I want children to change something, well, [00:08:06] I mean, you understand, but these are sick people, you see, imagine how much [00:08:10] topic, think about it. You have to be really a sick [00:08:14] person to build a political career in such a way, [00:08:17] I never do that, that means, have you ever heard from [00:08:21] me that I, well, you see, there were a thousand things that [00:08:25] they did not do well, they made mistakes, so I [00:08:28] don't go out, I don't badmouth, I don't try [00:08:32] to gain some political benefit for myself, everything that is wrong [00:08:35] in this country that has been done in the last 30 years and everything that is good, [00:08:39] they did, here I congratulate them for everything that is good, but... everything that is wrong, [00:08:43] factories that survived the war, they [00:08:46] shut them down, that means we saved the war, they shut down [00:08:49] now, well, normally, normally, well, normally they [00:08:53] shut down when they brought them, no, they brought them to the phase of shutting down, you cannot [00:08:56] save a dead person, so understand, when a dead person comes [00:09:00] to the hospital, there is no salvation for him, he says we want artificial, we want [00:09:03] this for half a year of the current government, that's [00:09:07] right, we are watching what is happening in Zenica where [00:09:10] you live, you are following that. Of course he is following, [00:09:13] you see, I was, I gave the best proposal when it was in question, [00:09:17] I said that we should launch this incentive for the production [00:09:21] of certain metals and so on, to protect it, then I [00:09:24] proposed and lobbied for the law [00:09:28] regarding imports to pass, but you must understand that in [00:09:31] parliaments there are people from HDZ who had no interest in [00:09:35] it passing and in the federal government they did not vote for it, we [00:09:39] outvoted them normally in the Council of Ministers they did not. [00:09:42] vote, what is happening, there are certain lobbies, there are certain [00:09:46] policies and it is known whose interest it is, it is known whose interest it is, [00:09:50] just take who imports the most into Bosnia and Herzegovina, that is his interest, [00:09:53] you see which political option is close to him, that's what you will, but that's the problem that people [00:09:57] put their personal interests above the state of Bosnia and Herzegovina, I [00:10:01] think it was better to save the Zenica Ironworks, to save their [00:10:04] jobs, because the Zenica Ironworks was very important in [00:10:08] that most difficult moment for Bosnia and Herzegovina, for the whole thing that will cost [00:10:12] in a political sense, well, you see those who, those [00:10:15] well, you see, the Ironworks will never be shut down, I mean, those who want to, cannot [00:10:19] shut it down, it cannot, there is something stronger than them, this will cost those [00:10:23] who sold it for one mark. Well, you see, Mital did not [00:10:27] leave Zenica Ironworks because it was doing [00:10:30] well, it left because they were not allowed to [00:10:34] protect their production, they were operating [00:10:37] negatively, they made losses, [00:10:40] hmm, we then, then the government should have, when [00:10:44] there was Mital's proposal to be handed over, sold, taken over, [00:10:47] normally, something needed to be done, it was not done, whoever bought it, [00:10:51] that's their right, I'm not going into that part, but what... [00:10:55] "I want to say, who brought Mital, that is, the Ironworks, to that [00:10:58] stage, who gave that Ironworks for one mark, those who now mostly [00:11:02] attack something there, criticize something, just wait, [00:11:06] you destroyed, you shut down the Ironworks 20 [00:11:08] years ago, when they sold it 15 years ago, they had already destroyed [00:11:12] it then, shut it down and it was only barely surviving as long as it had [00:11:15] certain incentives, at one point it all stopped, [00:11:19] normally it came to the stage, as they say, no [00:11:23] infusion, almost dripping out." You criticize political [00:11:26] opponents that they actually build their campaign on [00:11:30] uh bad uh [00:11:33] comments, at the expense of opponents, so what do you build yours on? Here [00:11:36] the People's Strength Party, [00:11:40] uh, dash Ramosak, obviously [00:11:44] you build on your own name, well, I don't build on my own name, [00:11:48] I build on the deeds I have done, which I believe, I mean not me [00:11:51] but those around me believe that... the [00:11:55] citizens recognized that, you see, [00:11:57] I came, you see, just as that Zenica Ironworks was [00:12:01] shut down by those who ruled for 30 years, they [00:12:04] shut down the Federal Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Police Administration, it was [00:12:08] the goal of those same ones from that political option we mentioned who [00:12:12] voted against, for that institution to be shut down, at one [00:12:15] meeting, I will not name him normally, how do you mean to shut down, who would [00:12:19] take over, no, no, to shut down completely, for it not to exist, [00:12:22] for it not to exist, that is the Federal Police [00:12:25] the meeting that it is their goal for that to happen and [00:12:29] then an Isak Hramom comes who rolls up his sleeves, gathers a good team, not [00:12:33] publicly, gathers a good team, sits down with that team of people [00:12:36] and sees what the priorities are, sits down with the union, sees what the [00:12:40] priorities are, what the union stated they believe or would [00:12:43] like me to do in four years, can you imagine in four years, [00:12:47] here sits one of those employees, I did in six [00:12:50] months what, meaning what they expected from me in four years, I did in [00:12:54] six months. The institution that had the lowest salaries, I brought it to an institution that [00:12:58] has the highest salaries in Bosnia and Herzegovina, an institution that had no equipment, [00:13:01] I brought it to an institution that has, well, we can't say the best, but by far [00:13:05] the best again, is it, is that actually the result of your political power given that [00:13:09] you were that hand that was crucial for the government [00:13:13] or the result of work, I think it is, I think it is still the result [00:13:17] of work, because you see, power is useless if you have no ideas, [00:13:20] power is useless if you don't have this [00:13:24] team of people around you who will... recognize what is needed, imagine the special [00:13:27] unit of the Federal Police Administration has not had its own premises for 30 years, [00:13:31] I, together with my team and normally the government whom I need to [00:13:34] thank for supporting me, you see I would be unfair if I did not [00:13:38] praise that government that supported me when I asked for certain things, [00:13:41] I secured a barracks [00:13:45] of 140 dunams which, here now I am currently investing four something million, [00:13:49] I secured together with that team [00:13:52] of people 4 million for a helicopter that [00:13:56] has been in the hangar for 25 years, imagine the [00:13:59] shame of that government that someone keeps a helicopter that could put out fires, [00:14:03] the same one that was paid 35 million in Sarajevo, I don't [00:14:06] mean the same identical one, but of those qualities that [00:14:10] meets all those needs, two recumbent patients, [00:14:13] transfer of 16, 12 to 16 special forces and so [00:14:17] on, that means I secured 4 million, new [00:14:21] uniforms, I came this morning to the building with police officers in new uniforms. [00:14:25] New weapons, briefly for the end, let's go back a little more to [00:14:28] the People's Strength Party, the CIK at the beginning of [00:14:31] June, uh, sanctioned you by [00:14:34] actually preventing you from having lists for the state level [00:14:38] due to a lack of valid signatures, then there was information that [00:14:42] 20 to 25 signatures on those [00:14:45] lists were actually the signature of one person, did you ever find [00:14:49] out who did that, no one did, that is not accurate information, that [00:14:53] is disinformation, do you want to say that the CIK received instructions, you see [00:14:57] here was a meeting, here I will tell you now, here your media reported [00:15:01] this, there was a meeting where all media reported this, yes, but not that part, this [00:15:04] more important part, this more important part, they reported everything else, but not this, there was [00:15:08] a meeting where it was allegedly agreed that I should be the Minister [00:15:11] of Security, allegedly, I am not confirming anything, that means that I should be [00:15:15] the Minister of Security, in this current mandate, to replace the current minister, [00:15:19] in this, in this mandate it was agreed for after [00:15:22] the elections what will happen, so a majority was formed and [00:15:26] it was agreed that I should be the Minister of Security and there some [00:15:29] people sat down and said, you see what he did to us as a federal minister, imagine when [00:15:33] he sits as the Minister of Security of Bosnia and what will happen then, is that a criticism or [00:15:37] praise? Well, praise, praise for my work, normally [00:15:41] criticism, their criticism for their people who did nothing [00:15:45] and then it was said, we must find a way [00:15:48] so that he does not have a state [00:15:52] representative, because everyone knew the number of votes I [00:15:55] get, if you have that information, if you claim that those signatures [00:15:58] are not falsified, I filed a, well, I, you see, [00:16:02] everything you want to say now, I already did, that means I filed an appeal with the [00:16:06] Constitutional Court, everything that is in accordance with the law, I did, that [00:16:10] means, I used all my legal possibilities, I am waiting, [00:16:14] if the decisions are in your favor, you will be without [00:16:17] a candidacy for the state parliament, we can, we will perhaps go to court, if there are [00:16:20] elements, that means I am not , if there are elements that certain [00:16:24] people in the CIK committed a criminal offense, I am ready to sign criminal [00:16:28] charges, that means I am not running away from anyone, as much as it is proven that what [00:16:31] the CIK claims is true, you see, what the CIK claims is not true, [00:16:35] because it cannot be true and... "if you do not act in accordance with the law, [00:16:39] follow me carefully, if you have established 51 invalid [00:16:42] signatures, that means the law [00:16:45] states the following, that you are obliged, that means that you [00:16:49] provide me with 48 [00:16:52] hours to provide those 51 signatures that [00:16:56] are allegedly not in order, that means you are obliged to provide me with that, you [00:17:00] did not act in accordance with the rulebook, in accordance with [00:17:03] the law, that speaks, 51 rather than 20 to 25, [00:17:06] 51." We received the official document, so that means what someone [00:17:10] says, media, some arrogant [00:17:13] people who until yesterday were in political options, now sit in the CIK and their instructions [00:17:17] are known, what they say in cafes and other places, it [00:17:21] is irrelevant, what is on the document is important, the document states that [00:17:25] 51 signatures are allegedly not in order, not that they are [00:17:28] forged, but allegedly not in order, and listen to me carefully, who are they to do that, I [00:17:32] did it, a check is someone who checks, of course, well, there are no, well, you see, how [00:17:36] they check the science. Do they have a graphologist, no, well, bravo, [00:17:39] that means you see, we immediately came to the answer that they are lying [00:17:43] that they are trying to mislead the public, they wanted to harm me, [00:17:47] you see, they wanted me not to be, but you know what [00:17:50] happens, whenever someone wanted me not to [00:17:53] be something, with the help of the one above, [00:17:55] certain things happen, so you will be the Minister of Security in the next, I don't [00:17:59] know if I will be, I don't know if I will be [00:18:02] this, well, let me tell you for your [00:18:05] information, many political options call me to give them [00:18:08] normal support for their state lists and in return [00:18:12] they are ready to concede certain things, because they believe that I [00:18:16] do this job well, here I invite you as one of [00:18:20] the more serious media, a media that is really well followed in [00:18:23] the entire area of Bosnia and Herzegovina and beyond, to [00:18:27] analyze what has been done in the last 30 years, what has been done in [00:18:31] my three-year mandate, when you analyze that, I invite you [00:18:34] there [00:18:36] to decide. Ready 30 years ago and now for three years and you know [00:18:40] what information you will get, that I together with my team [00:18:43] of people have done more in three years than all of them combined in [00:18:47] 30, for such people to criticize me, no, behind me stand [00:18:50] deeds, behind me stands, behind me stands what [00:18:53] is called good working conditions, [00:18:56] employees of the institution I lead go to work [00:19:00] happy in the morning, today I had a commission that was not satisfied with [00:19:04] certain things and they leave my office and say: [00:19:07] "Minister, we are going happy now to our workplaces," [00:19:10] that is my goal, I do for other people what I want, still, [00:19:14] however, our time for discussion is up, thank you for being our guest, there will be an opportunity [00:19:17] to continue where we left off, thank you, it is my pleasure, thank you [00:19:21] and I will always respond, because I believe that you do this job professionally, the Minister [00:19:25] of Internal Affairs of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Ramo Lisak, was with us, we will briefly [00:19:29] go to commercials and then we go to Banja Luka with pictures, also current topics with [00:19:32] Stefan Blagić, stay with [00:19:34] us. 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