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[00:00:23] Dear all, good day and welcome to live day for
[00:00:27] Wednesday, August 12, which is celebrated as Youth Day,
[00:00:30] all with the aim of drawing attention to the issue of youth and
[00:00:33] emphasizing their potential as partners in
[00:00:36] today's global society, does Bosnia and Herzegovina have anything to
[00:00:40] celebrate today if we know that about 40,000 citizens
[00:00:44] our resources and capacities are focused on leave the country annually, mostly young and
[00:00:47] highly educated? How did we go from Šantić's "Stay here" to
[00:00:50] "Go while you're young"? It's a question whose answer we know well,
[00:00:54] but we consciously forget it at the polls on October 4.
[00:00:58] Stay with N1 for the next
[00:01:00] minutes.
[00:01:03] We are following the dramatic situation in Konjic where the fire is dangerously approaching
[00:01:07] residential areas. Due to the scale of the fire, international assistance
[00:01:10] has been requested while firefighters, civil protection, and
[00:01:14] locals are fighting to protect people and property. How serious
[00:01:17] is the situation on the ground? Are all available resources put into
[00:01:20] function and what awaits us in the coming days? Our reporters are reporting
[00:01:24] from the
[00:01:28] planned, but we have lost scene. We will talk about current topics in Sarajevo Canton, infrastructural
[00:01:31] projects, environmental protection, the functioning
[00:01:34] of institutions, in a situation where the government is in a technical mandate, as
[00:01:38] well as other important issues, with the Prime Minister of Sarajevo
[00:01:42] Canton, who has resigned, Nikadom
[00:01:43] Mukom.
[00:01:48] Global crises, security challenges, political turmoil in the region
[00:01:51] and the world, and their impact on Bosnia and Herzegovina are the topics we
[00:01:55] will discuss with Professor of International Relations Neven Anđelić.
[00:01:58] We will also talk about a book dedicated to the pre-war
[00:02:02] youth program of Radio Sarajevo, which is somewhere in its final
[00:02:05] phase.
[00:02:09] With Slovenian journalist Novica
[00:02:12] that were at the level of the Federation of Bosnia and Mihajlović, we will discuss the political and legal consequences of Slovenia's decision to ban Milorad
[00:02:16] Dodik from entering, as well as the complaint filed by controversial lobbyist Rock
[00:02:19] Snežić against Prime Minister Robert Golob for
[00:02:23] alleged abuse of power. We will also talk about the
[00:02:26] political situation in Serbia and protests, and the increasingly prominent trend
[00:02:30] of strengthening the military industry and armament in the Western
[00:02:33] Balkans.
[00:02:37] So these are some of the topics and our interlocutors who await you
[00:02:41] for the next hour and a half on Channel N1
[00:02:45] the film industry should rest are at Television.
[00:02:51] First of all, as announced, we will also browse our portal N1info.Ba,
[00:02:55] we recommend that you look for all the most important news there.
[00:02:58] Croatia. Two. Portuguese found alive after eight hours
[00:03:02] spent in the sea, search for two more continues, large
[00:03:05] action by border police in Foča, 11 cars from
[00:03:09] Great Britain seized, smuggler arrested. Time how
[00:03:13] sports associations in Serbia change names in the spirit of the Serbian world,
[00:03:16] also one of the topics, and then worker protection in
[00:03:20] focus, this is not the end, this is a new beginning, Nova željezara Zenica
[00:03:23] announced bankruptcy there. Former high official
[00:03:27] of the United Nations who served in Bosnia and Herzegovina says Srebrenica
[00:03:31] was a systemic failure, the government of Tuzla Canton treats
[00:03:34] 39,43 pensioners, they will receive
[00:03:38] one hundred convertible marks,
[00:03:58] area is still active. Due to the extremely difficult situation in
[00:04:02] that city, a state of natural
[00:04:05] disaster has been declared and international air assistance
[00:04:09] has been requested to extinguish it. Here is the report from the
[00:04:11] scene. A state of natural disaster has been declared in Konjic
[00:04:15] due to the difficult and alarming situation on
[00:04:18] the ground. A large forest fire has been raging for days
[00:04:21] in the area around the settlements of Kanjina,
[00:04:25] Živašnica, Brđani, and Džepi. Due to the scale
[00:04:28] of the danger, the mayor of Konjic sent an official request
[00:04:32] for international air assistance, and during the day,
[00:04:35] Air Tractors and a helicopter from the Armed Forces of Bosnia
[00:04:39] and Herzegovina were engaged. This means the fire is constantly spreading. All our available
[00:04:43] resources and capacities
[00:04:46] are on the ground. The fire is spreading towards Brđani and towards Džepska
[00:04:49] mountain, meaning in the direction of Hadžići municipality. Mm
[00:04:53] during the past night, the city civil protection staff of the city
[00:04:57] of Konjic convened. A state of natural disaster was declared in the area of Konjic
[00:05:01] due to large forest fires and international assistance
[00:05:04] was requested for
[00:05:07] extinguishing forest fires from the air. Today on the ground,
[00:05:10] two e-tractors of the civil protection administration are operating.
[00:05:13] The firefighting of HNK, they have been operating
[00:05:17] for previous days. Mm, we also had a helicopter
[00:05:20] from the Canton of Zenica,
[00:05:24] mm, civil protection of Zenica-Doboj Canton, according to
[00:05:27] unofficial information, it was announced that it would operate
[00:05:30] today. We have a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina, it was
[00:05:34] announced for today, it is still not on the ground, we expect it any moment.
[00:05:38] We also have unofficial information that it might operate today.
[00:05:42] Mm... We mostly have
[00:05:44] firefighters from Sarajevo Canton from Hadžići from Tarčin. They are helping us
[00:05:47] with ground
[00:05:50] forces and extinguishing the fire from
[00:05:53] the ground, and all
[00:05:56] preventing the fire from spreading towards
[00:06:00] Brđani and towards Džepska mountain. Under the force of
[00:06:04] the wind, the fire is spreading in multiple directions. During the past
[00:06:07] night, two stables and one abandoned house burned down in
[00:06:11] the hamlet of Olob. near Džepa, since early
[00:06:14] morning, firefighters from Konjic, with the help of colleagues
[00:06:18] from Hadžići and Tarčin, as well as locals and
[00:06:21] hunters, have been fighting a superhuman battle with the
[00:06:24] fire, so the forest is burning,
[00:06:28] meaning it's burning, we have a weekend house up there and my son
[00:06:32] went up there, there are people who have
[00:06:35] livestock, meaning they have sheep
[00:06:39] and all that is up there now, so he went out to
[00:06:42] the hill, now the grass is
[00:06:46] dry, everything will burn,
[00:06:50] mm, how close is it, how much does it threaten the settlement itself?
[00:06:53] Well, it's scattered
[00:06:55] now, you know, every 500
[00:06:59] meters maybe houses, mhm, you know, it's a bit scattered, it's a mountain
[00:07:03] and so on,
[00:07:06] that's it, what does your son say? The terrain is very inaccessible, I just
[00:07:10] called him, he says... it's going towards
[00:07:13] Džepi, the planes dropped twice
[00:07:16] and that's it, it's classic
[00:07:20] to say it will come here, so it was burning here last night, it was burning here last night,
[00:07:24] mhm, we are afraid, but here
[00:07:27] it is, this passed, this is the only thing that passed without burning
[00:07:30] and all of this, all of that down there
[00:07:34] burned, the settlement Živašnica, it's been a week
[00:07:37] since all this started, last week we ourselves helped the Konjic firefighters
[00:07:41] with extinguishing, "it wasn't too critical here like in the lower
[00:07:44] settlement, but it was really a big fire, the firefighters
[00:07:48] fought for 24 hours for sure for a couple of days, so
[00:07:51] it was much more critical down there than here, but we still defended
[00:07:55] this settlement here, so did you also see
[00:07:59] air support? Were they there? Well, honestly, not as much as we expected,
[00:08:03] there was a lot of help, but they flew over a couple of times
[00:08:06] without dropping water, probably because of the smoke and they didn't see well, but
[00:08:10] I think the people, most of them, I mean, the firefighters acted,
[00:08:13] I mean, those ground forces and there was air support, but I think it could have been more,
[00:08:17] honestly. Given that the situation is most critical during the night,
[00:08:21] firefighters remain on the ground in the mentioned settlements
[00:08:25] to defend residential buildings. Nataša Kerezović,
[00:08:28] N1.
[00:08:32] The government in Sarajevo Canton is facing numerous questions from citizens these days,
[00:08:36] from youth employment programs without work experience to the purchase
[00:08:39] of a police helicopter to plans for a new university
[00:08:43] campus. The public, given that the end of the mandate is approaching,
[00:08:46] expects concrete results, but also clear answers. We will discuss this with
[00:09:02] just watched, Konjic is facing fires,
[00:09:05] a state of natural disaster was declared today,
[00:09:09] international assistance can Sarajevo Canton help Konjic
[00:09:13] at this moment? Well, last Friday, we already,
[00:09:16] in a record, mm, time, when the need
[00:09:20] arose through the federal administration for civil
[00:09:23] protection, which called our civil protection, the government of Sarajevo Canton
[00:09:26] had a session where we sent our
[00:09:30] vehicles and our crew as support to colleagues in
[00:09:34] Konjic itself. Unfortunately, the information I follow
[00:09:37] through, mm, through the media shows that it is
[00:09:40] quite, mm... a serious fire, that without
[00:09:44] international assistance, without
[00:09:48] a large squadron,
[00:09:51] resources, and other material needs, the fire
[00:09:55] will not be brought under control, so, unfortunately, we waited
[00:09:58] seven days, right? Approximately today, today is about
[00:10:02] the seventh day since it started to smoke in
[00:10:05] the Konjic areas. Now, if the helicopter that
[00:10:09] was acquired by the Ministry of Interior of Sarajevo Canton were here, how much could it help? And why
[00:10:13] isn't it here? Mm, it would certainly help a lot, so it's
[00:10:16] a multi-purpose helicopter that has, I think,
[00:10:19] three times the amount of water it can
[00:10:23] carry for extinguishing fires than
[00:10:27] the regular ones used in Bosnia and Herzegovina for
[00:10:30] simple reasons, because it still needs
[00:10:34] certain technical technical additions in the Czech Republic
[00:10:37] itself, where the country of delivery
[00:10:40] of the vehicle, or aircraft, insurance, or
[00:10:44] registration of the same, the crew itself that
[00:10:48] needs to be
[00:10:51] hired by the government of Sarajevo Canton and where
[00:10:55] a tender has been announced, parallel to that, since we are establishing
[00:10:58] a helicopter unit, they have been in training for a long time. They will be
[00:11:02] part of the program with
[00:11:05] new, or rather, staff who will be available
[00:11:08] in the coming months so that they acquire
[00:11:11] a sufficient number of hours for flying, so these are all procedural things.
[00:11:15] We knew that Sarajevo Canton still doesn't have a crew ready
[00:11:19] to take over helicopters independently, that's right, that's right, so that's something that
[00:11:22] was known to all of us from the beginning. We are establishing
[00:11:25] a helicopter unit for the first time, and according to all
[00:11:29] rules and all certificates, certain
[00:11:32] pilots need to have a certain number of hours
[00:11:35] on certain aircraft, so when can citizens expect
[00:11:38] this helicopter to be, therefore, stationed in Sarajevo Canton
[00:11:42] in full function with domestic staff? Mm, in full function,
[00:11:46] it will be in the coming weeks, so the moment it is finished,
[00:11:50] say in the next month, I don't know how long the public
[00:11:53] procurement of vehicle insurance will take, the public
[00:11:57] procurement of hiring that additional crew, but
[00:12:00] citizens of Sarajevo Canton literally in the coming months with domestic
[00:12:03] staff, I don't know exactly what number of hours needs to happen,
[00:12:07] but it doesn't matter, it's important that the helicopter itself is available
[00:12:11] to the citizens of the canton to the crew, uh, how much will it
[00:12:15] cost the canton, or its citizens? It will, so it will
[00:12:18] definitely cost, these are things we knew would happen
[00:12:22] and must happen, so the moment one city, one region, one
[00:12:26] country establishes a helicopter unit, mm, these are all
[00:12:29] procedures that must happen, they must have a certain
[00:12:33] number of flight hours on one aircraft, and parallel
[00:12:37] to that, in order to enable that
[00:12:40] helicopter not to stand in hangars, mm, it will be
[00:12:43] used by the mm
[00:12:47] crew that will be hired. What is most important, I emphasize once again,
[00:12:51] is that the citizens of Sarajevo Canton and Bosnia and Herzegovina will have that helicopter available
[00:12:55] for God forbid and for these situations that are happening today in
[00:12:58] Herzegovina and this would certainly
[00:13:01] be part of the help in greater material means
[00:13:05] and vehicles at this moment than what
[00:13:08] we had in previous years or
[00:13:11] decades as it was in Sarajevo Canton, today
[00:13:14] is Youth Day, the Canton government approved
[00:13:18] the program of first employment, my
[00:13:21] right. How many young people do you expect will go through
[00:13:25] this program and how will their previous successes be
[00:13:28] evaluated? Who will have the right to receive
[00:13:32] support within this program? Yes, there are a large
[00:13:35] number of programs through the employment service of Sarajevo
[00:13:38] Canton. The government places them on the labor market.
[00:13:42] One of these programs is "My Right," which is essentially
[00:13:46] an internship that is made available to
[00:13:49] all young people entering employment for the first
[00:13:53] time.
[00:13:55] "Mm, in previous years, we increased the budget execution
[00:13:59] of the employment service, so this immediately
[00:14:01] results in numbers we can be proud of.
[00:14:05] Mm, as I recently saw that data, in 2019,
[00:14:08] in Sarajevo Canton, there were
[00:14:12] about 153,000 employed people and
[00:14:16] about 58,000
[00:14:19] unemployed people, so I took that period before the pandemic so there wouldn't
[00:14:22] be a mistake in the calculation." Compared to today,
[00:14:26] there is a 12,000 difference, so in favor of
[00:14:30] employed people, in favor of fewer unemployed people,
[00:14:34] so money, yes, but employers often claim they lack qualified
[00:14:37] labor, while on the other
[00:14:40] hand, young people uh claim that
[00:14:43] it's actually very difficult to get a job
[00:14:47] without experience. How to break that vicious cycle,
[00:14:50] can this be done through this program? Well, it can, so I think the market is so deficient
[00:14:54] now, especially in Sarajevo Canton, that employers
[00:14:58] are looking for workers they can train, so for long-term,
[00:15:02] so, not, not a finished product, on one hand, on the
[00:15:05] other hand, these programs give financial
[00:15:08] opportunities to employers to draw for a certain period,
[00:15:12] whether it's six months for secondary education
[00:15:14] or 12 months for higher education,
[00:15:18] so that's a symbiosis that
[00:15:21] has shown results, and the results would be much greater.
[00:15:25] if there had been a change in the federal law
[00:15:28] on
[00:15:30] uh mediation in employment, so that, that
[00:15:34] current federal law ties the hands of all cantons.
[00:15:37] informally because there is no separation between real
[00:15:41] job seekers and those who are
[00:15:43] fictitious, so at this moment in Sarajevo Canton, we are working
[00:15:47] with a figure of approximately 47,000
[00:15:51] people who are on the unemployment registry, but in reality it's between 13
[00:15:54] and 15,000, the rest are fictitious due to some social
[00:15:58] benefits on one hand, and on the other hand, because people are abroad,
[00:16:01] living their lives
[00:16:04] abroad, so that law prevents us from
[00:16:07] creating programs that will directly target
[00:16:11] these 13 or 15,000, but when programs are created,
[00:16:14] those who genuinely seek a job usually apply, whoever doesn't seek one won't even apply
[00:16:17] for something similar, that's right, but there is
[00:16:21] space, so there is space and capacity
[00:16:24] and finances through the employment service, and I am
[00:16:28] sorry that that law in the federation was not changed in
[00:16:31] previous years, that is a political issue for which
[00:16:34] I really don't know why this. such an
[00:16:38] important topic, especially for parties that
[00:16:41] come from Herzegovina, that is
[00:16:44] HDZ, which, a few months ago, actually
[00:16:48] overturned that law, or rather, there was not enough support for changing that
[00:16:51] law, so I don't see anything here that has any ethnic connotation, it's just
[00:16:55] operational which can determine for all
[00:16:58] employment services of all cantons in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina
[00:17:02] to distinguish those who really want to find a job, so we can invest
[00:17:05] money in them, perhaps through retraining, not
[00:17:09] like this, blindly, talking about
[00:17:11] 48,000 unemployed, 47,000
[00:17:15] unemployed in Sarajevo Canton, that is truly not a figure that is
[00:17:18] a real one, but only a fictitious figure based
[00:17:22] on that bad law. When we talk about young people, the return of
[00:17:25] VAT on the purchase of the first property is presented
[00:17:29] as help to young people. Is
[00:17:32] that help sufficient given this dizzying rise in property
[00:17:35] prices? Not only in Sarajevo
[00:17:38] Canton, but throughout Bosnia and Herzegovina, many say that properties are unrealistically expensive
[00:17:42] and somewhere people would need more than
[00:17:46] half their lives with some loan, uh, whose
[00:17:49] installment almost exceeds a thousand marks to pay off such an apartment.
[00:17:53] Is that a realistic price and how, apart from
[00:17:57] that VAT refund, can we further help young people to get
[00:18:00] settled? That is a big step forward, so
[00:18:03] colleagues from other countries who read it and
[00:18:07] were quite curious, asked me how it happened,
[00:18:11] because in those neither regional nor European countries
[00:18:15] that policy is not based that way. I think it is a very
[00:18:19] important pillar, is it enough? No, we are talking about
[00:18:22] the price per square meter in Sarajevo of 5,000 convertible marks and
[00:18:26] when you take this apartment of 50
[00:18:29] square meters with interest and so on, truly a young person's entire life
[00:18:33] or anyone can pay it off, on one hand
[00:18:36] this. "a law will be introduced, so we are working and are nearing the end
[00:18:40] of that law on taxing additional properties in Sarajevo Canton, which
[00:18:44] will reduce the bubble of those prices, so it will
[00:18:48] somehow encourage perhaps other
[00:18:51] markets for investment, so not only for citizens and
[00:18:54] private individuals and other people to invest by buying
[00:18:57] apartments and keeping them locked, so we want those apartments
[00:19:01] to be unlocked, to be rented out, then other taxes will be paid,
[00:19:04] we will also have to change paradigms..."
[00:19:08] of housing, so yes, you tried at one point with that
[00:19:11] support for young people, but there was a problem, then
[00:19:15] there was a program for building cheap apartments, if I'm not
[00:19:18] mistaken, is that program ever finished or is it ongoing?
[00:19:21] Construction is ongoing, this year I expect the start of 300
[00:19:24] new apartments, some are in Sokolović Kolonija, so
[00:19:28] directly next to the tram line which will be opened
[00:19:31] in the coming weeks, there will be a
[00:19:34] beautiful building, citizens of Sarajevo Canton could see the conceptual
[00:19:37] solution, at this moment all permits are being collected so that work can start on that
[00:19:41] location and also other specific locations
[00:19:44] in Vogošća as well as in the municipality
[00:19:47] of Centar Šip, so in that way we can
[00:19:50] attack the market and change the paradigm of thinking about housing,
[00:19:54] I wanted to go back to that, so in Western Europe
[00:19:58] housing is not exclusively buying apartments, so we
[00:20:01] must open up the minds of our citizens
[00:20:04] to affordable rents.
[00:20:07] It's not something common in these Eastern cultures that,
[00:20:11] but for us it's almost the same as the
[00:20:15] installment and rent for a month, so people logically
[00:20:18] think that it's actually better
[00:20:21] to pay for something, even for a longer period, and in the end
[00:20:25] to have that something rather than paying rent, which you are right
[00:20:28] about, but we must change that concept of rent as well, so
[00:20:32] there must be subsidies for renting those apartments, either through financial
[00:20:36] resources of municipalities. cantons, or through
[00:20:39] renting already existing
[00:20:42] housing stock of both the canton and municipalities to
[00:20:45] a certain population, these should not be commercial prices, and
[00:20:48] we think that... the example of Vienna, which
[00:20:52] is an ideal example that is very difficult to
[00:20:55] replicate not only in Bosnia and Herzegovina and
[00:20:58] Sarajevo, but in much more developed countries, but to strive for a similar
[00:21:02] example and to open the way for that
[00:21:05] social housing rental to all
[00:21:09] interested parties in this case in Sarajevo. You mentioned
[00:21:12] earlier the conceptual design of the building, uh, so for
[00:21:16] young people, a conceptual design appeared, uh, actually...
[00:21:20] of the new university campus, uh
[00:21:23] behind which stands Sarajevo Canton. Now
[00:21:26] many recall that the construction of certain university facilities that was
[00:21:30] started long ago, was never completed, so how
[00:21:33] can we actually believe that this project will be brought to an end if what
[00:21:37] has been done for decades has never
[00:21:40] been brought to an end and why start one or
[00:21:43] the other when the first one is still not finished? Well,
[00:21:47] citizens are right with that, but we just need to see why some
[00:21:51] buildings were not built and who participated in
[00:21:54] creating such ugly narratives, which follow this
[00:21:58] government. We are talking, I assume, about the building of the Academy of Performing
[00:22:02] Arts, which was started about 20 years ago,
[00:22:05] uh, and it certainly needed to be visited on multiple occasions, deadlines were given.
[00:22:09] That building, the Academy of
[00:22:13] Performing Arts, will be completed during this year as
[00:22:18] about ten years
[00:22:22] of the lives of all
[00:22:25] Bosnians and Herzegovinians, ten years of opportunities,
[00:22:29] for example, for the film industry, which is current in the coming days due to
[00:22:32] the film festival. How much more advanced would we be now, how much more competitive
[00:22:36] would we be, how many of our students and
[00:22:39] professors would perhaps be more active in the film
[00:22:42] industry if they had adequate conditions? We lost about 10 years
[00:22:46] due to various criminal activities on that object. "and
[00:22:50] those who are educated and specialized today,
[00:22:53] unfortunately, don't have much work, especially in recent years in
[00:22:57] that industry, I agree, so, uh, certain incentives
[00:23:02] Herzegovina are missing, precisely
[00:23:05] because of that, the Government of Canton Sarajevo and the Ministry of Culture and Sports
[00:23:09] uh established the Fund for Cinematography of Canton
[00:23:13] Sarajevo, they allocated a budget. Is that enough considering that only the canton allocates, and
[00:23:17] there is no support from other levels of government? No, this
[00:23:20] is just one pillar that must exist. We are a city of film and we
[00:23:24] must function in such a way as to provide a pillar of incentives
[00:23:28] for the film industry. The remaining pillar or
[00:23:31] the remaining two pillars on which
[00:23:35] the level of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, we cannot expect state
[00:23:38] level due to political
[00:23:41] issues, but the Federation must and the Federation will
[00:23:44] get involved, uh, in one way or another, so
[00:23:47] from the perspective of Sarajevo Canton, we can truly be proud. Unfortunately, I cannot
[00:23:51] be proud of the slowness of a few months, last
[00:23:54] year we should have had the first call regarding
[00:23:58] the film fund, but the appointed steering committee
[00:24:02] resigned while a new one was being announced, so these are some procedures
[00:24:05] that are not in the hands of the competent
[00:24:08] ministry and the government of Sarajevo Canton, but are processes that happen independently
[00:24:12] of us. My insistence on Minister Magoda and
[00:24:15] Minister Magoda towards the
[00:24:19] film fund is that the call must be announced as soon
[00:24:23] as possible, the money that is planned in the budget for 2026
[00:24:27] must be pumped into
[00:24:30] the film industry. as promised and as
[00:24:34] planned, this is for
[00:24:38] all users and creators, we will talk a little
[00:24:42] later about SF, of course, at the end of the conversation,
[00:24:45] if we have time, let's deal with infrastructure
[00:24:49] and transport specific topics. We would gladly ask
[00:24:52] Minister Šteta about this, but we have not been able to reach him for a long time,
[00:24:55] but you as the Prime Minister, even though the government is in resignation, I assume you can give
[00:24:59] some of the answers. So, after the cantonal court made
[00:25:03] a decision according to which hiding the contract for the construction of the tram
[00:25:07] line is illegal, the Ministry of Transport was
[00:25:10] ordered to repeat the procedure respecting the Law on Freedom
[00:25:13] of Access to Information, uh, which was initiated
[00:25:17] by Transparency International. Minister Šteta, in his reaction
[00:25:21] claims that the Ministry did, however, act according to the law, so then
[00:25:24] we come to a collision between these two statements. Should
[00:25:28] the interest of a public, uh, or rather, a private company be placed
[00:25:32] above the interest of the public that wants to know where and how citizens'
[00:25:35] money is spent? So, what I haven't read
[00:25:39] is the judgment of the Cantonal Court. Also, I have been informed, both by
[00:25:42] colleagues and by media,
[00:25:46] that the Cantonal Court has returned
[00:25:50] the case for first-instance decision-making, and I think
[00:25:53] there is no fear on my part, neither towards Minister Šteta nor
[00:25:57] the officials of the Ministry of Transport, that they will acknowledge
[00:26:00] the judgment of the Cantonal Court. The way it is written in the
[00:26:04] operative part of the same resolution, or rather
[00:26:08] the judgment itself, Mr. Šteta has
[00:26:11] participated in the government of Canton Sarajevo, not only this one but also the previous one, which
[00:26:15] can truly say that it is a transparent government, and we have created
[00:26:19] excellent mechanisms regarding the issue. But if the
[00:26:21] talk about transparency is actually hidden from
[00:26:24] the public, and I don't think it's hidden. If it is hidden, there is no reason of private
[00:26:28] nature for a minister or an employee or a member of the government not
[00:26:32] to want it. I specifically ask the question, can
[00:26:35] the interest of a private company actually be above
[00:26:39] the interest of citizens? If an obligatory relationship has been entered into with, say, a
[00:26:42] private company or with the EBRD, the financier
[00:26:46] of the project itself, that relationship
[00:26:49] must be respected. So, at that moment, if
[00:26:53] the canton, or rather, a certain ministry, agreed to
[00:26:57] such a contract, given the laws on access to information. Well, now
[00:27:01] I will tell you, many of these international agreements, let's not take the EBRD
[00:27:04] as an example, but other international agreements, with other banks and so
[00:27:08] on, these are standard contracts, wherever we tried
[00:27:11] to change some things, unrelated to this part, we would
[00:27:15] hit a wall that is difficult to jump over.
[00:27:19] They say it's "take it or leave it" when it comes to those standard parts
[00:27:22] of the contract. So, we are not talking about the price, we are not talking about
[00:27:26] the content of the same, so standard contracts say
[00:27:30] these are contracts we work with and governments. We work in Montenegro, in
[00:27:33] Slovenia, and so on. Take it or leave it, so it's very
[00:27:37] difficult now to say, "I don't like the article, I won't," and
[00:27:40] it won't be the court in London
[00:27:44] uh, competent for that agreement. We will say it's the Municipal Court in Sarajevo. So,
[00:27:48] there is no, or whether the official version in one language or in
[00:27:51] another is more relevant than the other. So, many of these things are
[00:27:55] difficult to negotiate, almost impossible
[00:27:58] in cases where I participated for some things because they are like that.
[00:28:02] This is a "take it or leave it" contract, likewise in this part,
[00:28:06] this, if that contract with
[00:28:09] the EBRD or the contractors does not allow it to be shown, so I am not
[00:28:12] talking about the interest of citizens, about public
[00:28:16] or private interest, but about an obligatory relationship that was
[00:28:20] established in that way by that contract. When
[00:28:23] we talk about traffic, there have been visible investments
[00:28:26] in recent years in Canton Sarajevo, however, despite
[00:28:30] all that, the problem of traffic jams has definitely not been solved.
[00:28:33] You just came to us, I assume you saw how bad the traffic is
[00:28:37] on the main city road.
[00:28:40] Is there a way for Sarajevo to solve
[00:28:43] that problem somehow, or will we live with it despite these
[00:28:58] is much better in the city. So, the adaptive
[00:29:02] center for adaptive traffic management,
[00:29:05] a project that is being established, a project that we expect will
[00:29:08] speed up traffic by at least 30%. So,
[00:29:12] if someone went from point A to point B in
[00:29:15] 30 minutes, we expect that to drop to 20
[00:29:19] minutes. But we are still talking about individual vehicles.
[00:29:23] Is there a way for citizens to,
[00:29:25] so, leave their cars at home, to rely on
[00:29:29] public transport to be better organized, to be...
[00:29:32] more punctual, to be, so, with fewer crowds, so that we can
[00:29:36] reduce traffic jams that way? Absolutely. So, what we have
[00:29:40] bought now, that's a small revolution in the region, not to mention Bosnia and
[00:29:43] Herzegovina, from trams, trolleybuses, buses, minibuses, that's
[00:29:47] just to cover those lines.
[00:29:51] However, politics and changing the paradigm of citizens' awareness
[00:29:54] will happen in the next next steps. For example, it was recently
[00:29:58] announced that a camera has been installed in a part
[00:30:02] of Marshal Tito Street that will fine
[00:30:05] citizens who drive on the
[00:30:08] yellow lane, i.e., on the tram line side.
[00:30:11] It somehow divided the public, asking why
[00:30:14] this is being done. So, it was already forbidden to drive on that side. At this
[00:30:18] moment, rules are only being introduced to penalize
[00:30:22] irresponsible drivers who drive on the right side,
[00:30:25] i.e., the side where the tracks are. In this way,
[00:30:28] public urban transport will be sped up. In this way,
[00:30:31] tomorrow, citizens who are used to driving their vehicles (there are over
[00:30:34] 165,000 registered vehicles in Canton
[00:30:37] Sarajevo) will realize that it is much nicer,
[00:30:41] much easier, cheaper, to travel by
[00:30:44] public transport, which is currently punctual, which you also have via
[00:30:48] an app, clean, tidy, um, which is
[00:30:51] air-conditioned, rather than sitting in cars
[00:30:53] and in traffic jams. So that's the paradigm that is not happening
[00:30:57] exclusively in our city, but must...