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[00:00:00] and simply something impossible that, of course, no one counted on. This was
[00:00:03] an accident or it was caused, as I said, the investigation will
[00:00:07] determine if it was caused intentionally. Do you have any
[00:00:10] information on the stage of the investigation? I really don't, because, look,
[00:00:13] the prosecutor's office won't give any information, it reserves the right
[00:00:17] to protect, not only in this, but in all other
[00:00:20] cases, but here we say that appropriate
[00:00:23] expert analyses should be conducted, probably a large number of people, workers,
[00:00:27] dumps, a large number of firefighters should be interviewed.
[00:00:31] Who told us, internally, when we went to
[00:00:35] thank those people for everything they did, because they were
[00:00:38] exposed to a terrible
[00:00:41] danger when they were putting out the fire at that dump, they were, because
[00:00:44] the dump didn't have only one fire, it had new fires on the second and third day,
[00:00:48] they expressed suspicion, due to their
[00:00:51] professional experience, that it was arson, mm,
[00:00:55] now that we're talking about public companies in the city of
[00:00:58] Mostar, are they today...
[00:01:00] professional city companies or still political prey
[00:01:03] of parties? How do you I personally think that we in
[00:01:07] public enterprises do not have professional companies, not only in Mostar,
[00:01:10] but in the entire area of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:01:14] meaning those companies are
[00:01:17] simply under the supervision of political parties that appoint their
[00:01:21] members of supervisory boards, management, they manage these
[00:01:24] enterprises, and we are witnesses that their results are, as we
[00:01:28] said, who are the biggest debtors of taxes, contributions
[00:01:32] and they tell us that either we don't know how to manage that
[00:01:35] sector, that we don't know how to manage that sector, or that
[00:01:39] there is a high degree of corruption and crime where citizens' funds
[00:01:42] are, note that these funds that are used by public utility companies
[00:01:46] are paid by all of us through garbage collection or by paying appropriate
[00:01:49] utility fees adopted by our self-government units,
[00:01:53] meaning we are witnesses of problems in highways,
[00:01:57] problems in telecommunications, now big problems in the economy of Bosnia
[00:02:00] and Herzegovina in mines, meaning all
[00:02:04] public enterprises are simply either very
[00:02:07] few, a small number of them operate
[00:02:10] responsibly. Is it generally possible to solve that problem, we are talking
[00:02:14] now from local communities, then across
[00:02:17] the cantonal level then
[00:02:20] entity levels then the level of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:02:24] all public enterprises are in a similar situation, similar
[00:02:27] state, is it generally possible? to come and
[00:02:30] solve these problems, well, it is possible to solve these problems, but these problems
[00:02:34] will not be solved until Bosnia and Herzegovina joins the European
[00:02:37] Union, mhm, I'm afraid they won't be solved, at the moment when we
[00:02:41] don't have only our prosecutor's offices, but European prosecutor's offices, well, we are witnesses now in
[00:02:45] Croatia that anyone who spends funds from European
[00:02:48] funds falls under the jurisdiction of the European prosecutor's office, well,
[00:02:52] you see, for example, even specifically in dumps in
[00:02:55] Croatia and and certain collectors, I'm talking about
[00:02:59] that communal infrastructure is very carefully
[00:03:02] monitored by European investigators how those
[00:03:05] funds are spent and and you have
[00:03:09] a control chain, let me say, a control
[00:03:12] chain by European prosecutors,
[00:03:15] so that politics cannot put pressure on the local
[00:03:19] prosecutor's office, you see, we are witnesses that the European
[00:03:22] prosecutor's office, because of EBRD funds,
[00:03:25] suspended the financing of highways in the Federation, so we see
[00:03:28] where we are now stopped. "We are stopped, that the
[00:03:32] works on the highways will stop, that we are again delayed and that we will again
[00:03:35] come from Mostar to Sarajevo for hours, you will go to the sea longer and
[00:03:39] longer until we build that highway, so you think that the
[00:03:42] solution is actually the European Union, well, to be honest
[00:03:45] I don't expect it because the time for transparency, responsible
[00:03:49] work of investigative, prosecutorial,
[00:03:52] judicial teams, fast efficient work until we enter
[00:03:55] or at least approach the European Union, because it will have very strict
[00:03:59] criteria." is about the chapter that refers to
[00:04:02] justice, mhm, so that is the most difficult chapter that Croatia
[00:04:06] would implement the reform of the judiciary, so
[00:04:09] without that there is no, I don't see
[00:04:12] the ability
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[00:05:48] What does the new majority mean in Una-Sana Canton
[00:05:51] and the new government, how is the summer season going
[00:05:55] in Bihać, these are all topics that we will discuss with
[00:05:59] the mayor of Bihać, as well as
[00:06:13] these higher levels of government and the preparations
[00:06:16] for the general elections, Pomak officially
[00:06:20] supported the candidacy of Semir Efendić for a member of the presidency,
[00:06:23] you were supposed to have your own candidate, however, Šuhret
[00:06:27] Fazlić's candidacy was not certified due to signatures, do you
[00:06:31] actually expect that Semir Efendić will upset the plans of other candidates? Well, I
[00:06:35] believe that Mr. Efendić has realistic chances in
[00:06:38] this election race to achieve
[00:06:41] the result he envisioned due to the fact that he is a
[00:06:45] young man who has not yet
[00:06:48] been so exposed to these higher levels of government, someone who has
[00:06:52] for a very, very long time
[00:06:55] in the municipality of New Sarajevo shown, is it a new city,
[00:06:59] a new city, mm, shown that he very
[00:07:03] successfully leads the municipality and has results
[00:07:06] behind him, after all, since taking over the party for Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:07:10] he has achieved constant results in some growth, I am
[00:07:14] sure, now is the time for some new face, because everything we
[00:07:18] have the opportunity to see on the other hand we have already watched through several
[00:07:21] election cycles and I am not really sure that they can offer us something new
[00:07:25] that we haven't already seen. Now, let's move on to the main
[00:07:29] topic of discussion, Una-Sana Canton got a new government
[00:07:33] led by Ibrahima Dizdarić from your movement
[00:07:36] Pomak. Why did the government of Mustafa Ružnić
[00:07:40] actually change? Just before the
[00:07:43] elections, well, I think everyone who follows the events in Krajina
[00:07:47] saw that the previous government, which is now
[00:07:51] former, did not have support in
[00:07:54] the parliamentary assembly of Una-Sana Canton
[00:07:58] for more than two months, so the fact that the government
[00:08:01] lost confidence should have led to the government
[00:08:04] withdrawing itself, given that that did not happen, here are
[00:08:08] the new 16 deputies, or rather the new
[00:08:12] majority. The 16 deputies finally
[00:08:15] ended that whole ordeal that would have led us further
[00:08:18] towards the elections, probably for some period after the elections until
[00:08:22] the results are implemented, and that would have meant that Una-Sana
[00:08:25] Canton would be in a kind of blockade. In this way, that blockade is
[00:08:29] broken, the assembly can work unhindered, the government enjoys
[00:08:33] the support of the assembly, that is what is ultimately the
[00:08:36] result of a democratic process that
[00:08:40] I hope will unblock certain processes that have
[00:08:43] been blocked for a long period
[00:08:47] due to the very fact that I mentioned, on the other hand,
[00:08:51] we ourselves saw that this government was burdened by numerous mortgages,
[00:08:54] from the arrests of ministers, investigations against certain ministers, and even
[00:08:58] partly the prime minister who was involved in
[00:09:01] all these processes, after all,
[00:09:05] he himself should have, as prime minister, as the first man of that
[00:09:08] government, raised the question of responsibility.
[00:09:13] Um, due to the fact that some ministers ended up
[00:09:16] under investigation, against others
[00:09:19] some indictments are already being prepared,
[00:09:23] against others investigations are being carried out, then the impossibility
[00:09:26] of appointing a new government, the department that was left without
[00:09:29] a minister was entrusted to another minister, so all of that
[00:09:33] was something forced, it could have been
[00:09:36] very easily resolved in a way that the government
[00:09:40] withdrew and itself yielded. Is it paving the way for further
[00:09:43] democratic processes that, in the end, have again decided through this
[00:09:47] assembly on Monday?
[00:09:50] You mention the former prime minister, he called this new majority
[00:09:53] a coalition of desperadoes and announced
[00:09:56] a fight, mm, he specifically mentioned a fight against
[00:09:59] lawlessness, also from the SDP they claim that the constitution
[00:10:03] of Una-Sana Canton was violated due to ignoring the club
[00:10:06] of nations. Also, Pomak issued
[00:10:09] a statement telling the SDP that they are the last ones who can
[00:10:13] give lessons on consistency, where does
[00:10:16] such political intolerance come from, has
[00:10:19] cooperation been broken, what do the
[00:10:22] party relations in Una-Sana
[00:10:25] Canton look like at all? Well, I think that certainly, first of all,
[00:10:28] both NES and SDP are the last ones who can give any lessons
[00:10:32] to others about political consistency, about
[00:10:34] principles, about how governments
[00:10:37] changed in this past period, so we were all witnesses
[00:10:41] that ultimately, the previous
[00:10:44] change of government, so this one when NES came to power
[00:10:48] with the help of the "trojka" happened under the baton,
[00:10:51] the conducting baton from Sarajevo here, and I think that before...
[00:10:55] Um, before we move on to any further processes, it will be easier
[00:10:59] for all of us the sooner the heads of
[00:11:02] party headquarters here in Sarajevo
[00:11:05] realize that they cannot dictate political processes in Krajina
[00:11:08] from Sarajevo here, so they should leave it to the people in Krajina to lead
[00:11:12] the main word there, that political agreements are made there
[00:11:16] and that governments are formed on the basis
[00:11:19] of such agreements, as long as we have
[00:11:22] political directives here from
[00:11:26] Sarajevo, I am sure that we will not have a long-term
[00:11:29] government, and we will have, for example, such
[00:11:33] coalitions that are more imposed and forced than they are
[00:11:36] the result of some democratic processes, uh, I will
[00:11:39] just remind first of all the people in Krajina, but
[00:11:43] also, I think, the wider public that the last change of government, that is, the previous
[00:11:46] one, followed after NES estimated that the Trojka
[00:11:50] would bring them into power in the canton, in return they supported
[00:11:54] them here at the federal level in the federal parliament, that was a kind of
[00:11:58] political trade, for this very reason I think that these comrades
[00:12:01] from the party
[00:12:05] are the least called upon to give us lessons on how to behave, because we did not
[00:12:09] come here to Sarajevo for advice, but we made decisions in Krajina
[00:12:12] and I think that from the beginning of this mandate period
[00:12:16] a similar process was undergone by another political party whose
[00:12:20] headquarters are here in Sarajevo, but they ultimately concluded that
[00:12:23] it is easier... wiser to leave the processes to the people in
[00:12:27] Krajina, meaning their people in Krajina to lead them. Well, obviously
[00:12:30] the SDP is now in some kind of process, I sincerely hope that
[00:12:34] from this process they have
[00:12:37] now exited from, they have learned certain lessons, because as long
[00:12:40] as they don't realize that they can't dictate things from here, I'm sure
[00:12:44] nothing will change on the ground, we won't
[00:12:47] allow anyone to hold our hands and give us
[00:12:51] lessons, especially not those who have shown that they don't know how to.
[00:12:55] "You are talking about those political trades, but how do you respond to
[00:12:59] these accusations of illegality and process violation when it comes to this
[00:13:03] new government appointment? Well, look, one of the political entities that
[00:13:06] is, well, exactly uh, whose prime minister was at the head of this
[00:13:10] previous government, when we talk about those political
[00:13:14] turmoil, turncoats as they called them, uh, I would
[00:13:17] again mention here that they entered with
[00:13:21] certain deputies into the assembly itself, in the meantime they lost
[00:13:25] some deputies, some others, well, I will allow myself to say that they
[00:13:28] bought them, they may not have literally bought them with money, but they bought them
[00:13:32] with positions on the lists for these elections, so two
[00:13:35] deputies who entered this parliamentary term as
[00:13:39] DF, later switched to NES, two NES members left,
[00:13:42] I don't know, in the meantime there were some other turmoils within Nipa, our party
[00:13:46] no longer participates in the government
[00:13:50] in Una-Sana Canton, um, ultimately I think that we are
[00:13:53] the only ones who can say that we entered and exited this
[00:13:57] mandate period compactly and that we show that consistency
[00:14:01] to fight for the interests of Krajina, that is again what I will repeat, so
[00:14:05] uh, as long as we don't reach a level where
[00:14:08] we leave it to the people in regions, whether it's Una-Sana
[00:14:12] Canton, Tuzla, Bosnian-Podrinje or some other
[00:14:15] cantons, as long as we don't leave it to the people on the ground to
[00:14:18] make decisions themselves based on the electoral legitimacy
[00:14:22] they enjoy, we will have exactly such games and we will have
[00:14:25] changes of government one after another, the fourth in this mandate, so we don't boast about that, so this
[00:14:29] is not a proud moment for anyone, but political
[00:14:32] trading here in the central office, where we on the periphery always
[00:14:35] serve some small change, so
[00:14:39] either in Krajina or in some other cantons will lead to such results, unfortunately,
[00:14:42] well, I have to repeat that uh, that we
[00:14:46] who uh, who perhaps first spoke about it openly and
[00:14:50] loudly, I see that now some others are also
[00:14:54] following that." and I believe that is the only
[00:14:57] recipe for long-term survival and work,
[00:15:01] some work in some
[00:15:04] better, calmer environment for every next government, so let us in Krajina
[00:15:08] agree among ourselves, let us assess what is
[00:15:11] best for us, don't give us lectures. You say that the key
[00:15:15] goal of the change and appointment of the new government is to
[00:15:18] unblock processes that were blocked
[00:15:22] due to the poor relationship between the assembly
[00:15:26] and the government of Una-Sana Canton, however,
[00:15:29] the initiation of a mechanism for the protection of vital national
[00:15:32] interests is announced regarding the appointment of the government,
[00:15:35] you and the SDA called it an abuse, however,
[00:15:39] do you expect that constitutional appeals will again block
[00:15:42] the work of the canton, slow down the adoption of key
[00:15:45] decisions, that we will again find ourselves nowhere? I
[00:15:49] am absolutely convinced that the issue of invoking
[00:15:52] vital national interest is nothing other than an attempt
[00:15:55] to block the democratic process,
[00:15:59] surely a kind of abuse, I think that ultimately everyone is
[00:16:02] aware that the issue that was
[00:16:05] raised, uh, in the context of the appointment and dismissal of the government, cannot
[00:16:09] absolutely be an issue of vital national interest, especially in a government in which
[00:16:13] for years representatives of the Serbian and Croatian people have
[00:16:16] had their place. Ultimately, I would not take it upon myself to give any
[00:16:20] assessment, the Constitutional Court of the Federation will
[00:16:24] give the final assessment on that
[00:16:27] issue, when that issue comes before it, uh,
[00:16:30] on one hand, on the other hand, I will remind the public that we have been in this similar
[00:16:34] situation several times already, I think for the first time in 2013 or 2014 when that government was changed.
[00:16:38] Hamdija Lipovača's government, then later in 2018 when the
[00:16:41] government of Husein Rošić was changed, and the court
[00:16:45] always said that the issue of appointing
[00:16:49] and dismissing the government, if the national
[00:16:52] representation was respected, was never questionable, meaning it was not about violating
[00:16:56] vital national interest, I believe that will be the case this time, ultimately
[00:16:59] I want to confirm that yesterday
[00:17:02] the handover was completed, that the new government took office, it has all the decisions
[00:17:06] of the assembly, it operates completely normally until the moment the Constitutional
[00:17:09] Court eventually says something else, uh, and I think, like
[00:17:13] everyone else, uh, we are waiting for that
[00:17:16] decision, or rather, I will be a legalist, we will respect every decision
[00:17:20] of the Constitutional Court, of course, you have often emphasized, in previous
[00:17:23] appearances here, that Una-Sana Canton is geographically and
[00:17:27] economically cut off from the rest of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:17:30] you complained actually even after the adoption of the budget,
[00:17:34] uh, about the amount of money that comes into Una-Sana Canton. mm, will
[00:17:38] the new government of Una-Sana Canton from
[00:17:41] a position of power succeed in forcing federal levels
[00:17:45] to initiate certain key projects
[00:17:48] such as a fast road to Sarajevo, an airport in Bihać, especially
[00:17:52] now because of these disagreements with the SDP, will the disagreements with
[00:17:55] the SDP perhaps affect future
[00:17:58] government decisions? Well, first of all, one should be aware
[00:18:02] that a cantonal government cannot force a federal government to do something
[00:18:06] that is its jurisdiction, such a question
[00:18:09] itself cannot even be
[00:18:13] posed, meaning the answer to such a question cannot be that
[00:18:16] the cantonal government is in a position to force something, it can
[00:18:20] negotiate easier, but what we talked about in the previous
[00:18:24] period, we will also demand
[00:18:27] in the period ahead is that
[00:18:31] a law on balanced regional development be adopted, which would, from
[00:18:34] a legal basis, enable balanced
[00:18:38] regional development, so that it is no longer a decision of political
[00:18:41] centers of power or eventually, some
[00:18:45] majorities that are formed after elections at the federal level, and then
[00:18:48] someone, through blackmail, forces certain
[00:18:52] projects for a certain part of the federation, or ultimately it becomes
[00:18:56] the result of political power, so where there are more votes,
[00:18:59] ultimately these large projects end up, where there are not enough,
[00:19:02] unfortunately, there we then have to settle for crumbs, we
[00:19:06] were witnesses, everyone in Krajina is a witness, so I don't need to explain that especially to
[00:19:10] people who live in Krajina that in the last 25,
[00:19:13] 30 years, regardless of the fact that different
[00:19:17] party and political
[00:19:20] structures have changed at the federal level, we have never
[00:19:24] received any significant capital project, meaning, ultimately, Una-Sana
[00:19:27] Canton is still geographically in
[00:19:31] isolation, we don't have a dedicated industry, the
[00:19:34] airport project is stalled due to the fact that they didn't provide
[00:19:38] enough funds in this year's budget for its construction,
[00:19:42] mm, we don't have, we don't have enough
[00:19:44] investments when it comes to
[00:19:47] Una National Park, there are not enough
[00:19:50] investments when it comes to some other capital
[00:19:54] projects that we witness are being realized in other parts of the Federation,
[00:19:57] so traffic infrastructure is being
[00:20:01] built and developed unhindered
[00:20:04] in the Sarajevo Canton, in the Zenica-Doboj Canton.
[00:20:07] mm, Herzegovina-Neretva or West Herzegovina,
[00:20:11] then over there towards the Bosnian-Podrinje Canton, we don't have railways either,
[00:20:15] well, I mean what do we need to talk about, the Federation Railways
[00:20:19] in 10 cantons function, it seems, in two or
[00:20:22] three cantons, so even in 20 to 30%,
[00:20:26] uh, then we talk about how
[00:20:29] someone demands that Una-Sana Canton develop, but how
[00:20:32] will you develop if you don't have the basic prerequisites for development, so
[00:20:36] you are completely isolated in terms of transportation, we see that
[00:20:39] at these border crossings um, in all other
[00:20:42] cantons or in all other parts of Bosnia and
[00:20:45] Herzegovina, uh, we don't have such a
[00:20:48] problem. The problem we have in Una-Sana
[00:20:51] Canton again in this new, in this new
[00:20:55] agreement that was reached with the Republic of Croatia, we failed to impose
[00:20:59] uh, so any significant
[00:21:02] change due to the fact that we still have almost
[00:21:05] all the same border crossings we had until now, their
[00:21:09] volume of work will not increase, uh, of course
[00:21:12] it has causes in police structures, that is, insufficient
[00:21:16] staffing of police structures on one side and the other, but... Well,
[00:21:20] it is obvious that it was not in someone's focus to solve it as an issue that is
[00:21:24] important for Krajina, and in that context, mm,
[00:21:27] we see that further, mm, Krajina is, as we would say,
[00:21:31] mm, the last resort why is that so, somehow all
[00:21:34] politicians often when they talk, when they speak, especially when they visit,
[00:21:38] they boast about the beauties of Krajina, and
[00:21:41] they talk to the world about the beauties of Una, Una is actually known
[00:21:45] all over the world for the history of that area,
[00:21:48] why then is it not the goal to develop that area? It is very
[00:21:52] simple, so when you ask anyone,
[00:21:55] no one will say that they are not for the development
[00:21:59] that they should not invest in Krajina, everyone will say that Krajina
[00:22:03] is the most beautiful part of Bosnia and Herzegovina, that the best people are there, that
[00:22:06] they gave the most in the war, uh, however, then
[00:22:10] when it comes to talking about projects, it is mostly
[00:22:13] done for election purposes, when we get to
[00:22:16] the realization of projects, you don't have enough political support and...
[00:22:20] from the canton because people within political parties first have to
[00:22:23] fight for themselves, that means that someone who comes from Una-Sana Canton first has to
[00:22:26] fight and assert himself within his party, if
[00:22:30] he brings with him about ten thousand, 20,000 votes from Una-Sana
[00:22:34] Canton, his colleague from, say, Tuzla or
[00:22:37] Zenica-Doboj has 100,000 votes behind him,
[00:22:41] then he will wait, that is the principle
[00:22:44] of functioning of political parties, unfortunately, and we cannot
[00:22:48] assert ourselves politically individually. "That's why we said that
[00:22:52] it's necessary to unite, to unite as political
[00:22:55] entities from Krajina, regardless of ideology, regardless of the fact
[00:22:59] that someone advocates a certain political program in one direction or another,
[00:23:02] but essentially it's all
[00:23:05] just talk, as we would say, we are all interested in these capital
[00:23:08] projects, but the lack of that political power within
[00:23:12] political parties, in the end, when someone opposes political headquarters
[00:23:16] here in Sarajevo, they themselves
[00:23:19] hammer the last nail into the political
[00:23:23] coffin of their career, and they don't find themselves on any subsequent electoral
[00:23:26] lists, then no one even dares, everyone then gets a little intimidated, and
[00:23:30] so, in the end, we witnessed that in these last government changes,
[00:23:34] so people from Krajina were determined to
[00:23:38] make some other agreement to show that unity, but it was"
[00:23:41] again, uh, the dictation, or the conductor's
[00:23:44] baton from Sarajevo, worked, they pulled their ears a little, led them around, and they
[00:23:48] had to do what was asked again. from here, there are many problems
[00:23:51] precisely, that connection, however, regardless
[00:23:55] of that, there are many events in the
[00:23:57] Una-Sana Canton, but let's turn to Bihać, since you came
[00:24:01] here as the mayor of Bihać, on Saturday
[00:24:04] Bihać Summerfest ends, the city is teeming with tourists, the region is constantly
[00:24:08] in focus in August, what kind of data do you have about the tourist
[00:24:11] season this year, and
[00:24:15] whether there is any data for the summer, how much...
[00:24:18] the local community succeeds in utilizing the potentials of Una National
[00:24:22] Park, you mentioned earlier that the investments from higher
[00:24:26] levels of government are low, so
[00:24:29] I think someone will say now, you got 700,000 this year for the national
[00:24:32] park, or we gave, as it usually happens to say, we gave 700,000 for the Una National
[00:24:36] Park, yes, but for material costs, that means for the regular operation of the Una National Park,
[00:24:40] these are not capital investments, so let's start from that, that
[00:24:44] it cannot help the national park to grow and develop, but
[00:24:47] it can... help it employ an additional
[00:24:51] individual in that way, maybe gain some political
[00:24:55] support, ultimately, it just creates an expense, uh,
[00:24:59] we advocated earlier, so in 2023,
[00:25:02] that was our condition for supporting the budget then to allocate funds for
[00:25:06] capital investments, for paving access
[00:25:09] roads to Štrbački buk to Martin Brod, so Martin Brod is one of
[00:25:13] 12, I think 14 villages that are fighting to be included
[00:25:16] on the UNESCO list of protected cultural
[00:25:19] heritage. That is something that will further contribute to this story, but
[00:25:23] someone has to stand for it, someone has to invest financial resources for us to get
[00:25:27] to that, not to tell fairy tales, here we invested, and that
[00:25:30] money went for material costs, so, on the one
[00:25:33] hand, uh, we are certainly trying as a local community to
[00:25:37] improve conditions, not only
[00:25:40] through the national park, but also uh with our
[00:25:43] restaurateurs, people involved in tourism, to give
[00:25:47] them an opportunity to develop, and
[00:25:50] in that way, we generate even more
[00:25:53] arrivals in Bihać, because what we want to achieve is to brand Bihać
[00:25:57] as one of the tourist destinations in Bosnia and Herzegovina that attracts an increasing
[00:26:01] number of tourists. "I spoke earlier about us truly having a record
[00:26:05] year last year with over 300,000 visits from
[00:26:07] 124 countries around the world, this year the season started a bit
[00:26:11] worse, now these days it's a little
[00:26:14] better, more tourists are coming
[00:26:18] from the Middle East, uh, it's definitely
[00:26:21] true that everything that is invested in
[00:26:24] tourism returns many times over, so who
[00:26:27] is investing the most now, is it exclusively
[00:26:31] the city itself?". "Each city for itself, or is there help from
[00:26:35] the Una-Sana Canton, the Federation, we are already... well,
[00:26:38] look, I would say that sporadically
[00:26:41] something comes from each side, however, if we talk about some
[00:26:45] concept that should be common, unfortunately it does not exist, so
[00:26:49] we point out something as significant for the Una National Park,
[00:26:51] Una National Park of course, which is under
[00:26:55] the jurisdiction of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina due to these again
[00:26:59] some political disagreements considers that it is not or..." eventually
[00:27:03] it goes in another direction, we spoke about the need to open new
[00:27:06] access roads to these destinations, that project
[00:27:10] documentation should be done, we asked last year for those projects to be
[00:27:13] included, they were not in the budget, later the minister said that she would do something with a
[00:27:16] reallocation, I sincerely hope she will, although
[00:27:20] I doubt it, we are already here before the elections, before
[00:27:23] the election campaign, I don't believe anything significant will happen this year,
[00:27:27] uh, so we are coming to a situation
[00:27:31] where indeed... some things that should have
[00:27:35] or were supposed to be realized, for which we had promises that they would be
[00:27:39] done, were not done, they told us that we would
[00:27:42] also in the field of this traffic
[00:27:46] infrastructure make some significant progress, I cannot
[00:27:49] agree that, I don't know, the expropriation process for the fast road is okay,
[00:27:53] it's flowing in its own course which is
[00:27:55] uh of course uh conditioned
[00:27:59] by the dynamics of the expropriation process to reach owners
[00:28:02] who are not only in Bosnia and Herzegovina, but around the world, I won't
[00:28:06] elaborate now, but these are processes that are simply
[00:28:09] bureaucratic and take a long time, that is a fact
[00:28:13] that uh is undeniable that we will not see traffic
[00:28:16] infrastructure in the Una-Sana Canton in such a foreseeable
[00:28:19] future, so we cannot see the fast road in the next three or four
[00:28:23] years, or even five, I think it is more likely that we will see it in 10, 15
[00:28:27] years, we will not see this main road between Bihać and Vozanska Krupa for
[00:28:31] the next three or four years if we continue at this pace, but what
[00:28:34] we could see is an airport, what we could see is a functional railway,
[00:28:38] what we could see is tourist infrastructure in the National
[00:28:42] Park, we could see it if someone allocated
[00:28:45] funds for it, of course, a local community, any community, so not just
[00:28:49] the city of Bihać, any local community in the Una-Sana Canton does not have
[00:28:52] large enough budgets to allocate those funds to invest by itself not only
[00:28:56] in tourism but in other branches of the economy, but
[00:28:59] this is perhaps a paradox. Uh, which
[00:29:03] very often remains somewhere, perhaps unmentioned,
[00:29:07] uh, it's not an incentive for the economy if you take
[00:29:10] money from the budget, distribute it to businesses so
[00:29:13] they can buy something with it or justify it, because a large part of those
[00:29:16] funds, uh, unfortunately, I have to
[00:29:19] say, from those businesses returns to political structures
[00:29:23] either through sponsorship in political campaigns or if someone extorts
[00:29:26] our businesses, so wouldn't it be simpler to relieve
[00:29:30] businesses of burdens, for example, to reduce. mm
[00:29:33] to reduce the percentage of contributions, you would have made it easier
[00:29:36] for businesses, there's no cash flow, so there's no possibility for someone
[00:29:40] to manipulate money, and you've made it easier for businesses, but one has to
[00:29:43] remember that, or maybe someone did remember that this first option is better, because that
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