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[00:00:08] No one can block anyone here, right? And over there you're in love.
[00:00:11] HDZ trio or whatever it is
[00:00:14] there.
[00:00:18] Oh, come on, before the elections they weren't, and then afterwards everyone runs to see
[00:00:22] who will recommend themselves to whom. Forget it, for God's sake, that's their
[00:00:26] empty story that only simpletons fall for and...
[00:00:30] "the one who is lobotomized, in
[00:00:32] Republika Srpska everyone knows who rules, meaning
[00:00:35] agriculture which they neglect constantly, but
[00:00:39] constantly, and now we're talking, we need this, we need that,
[00:00:43] every, every normal community, call it a municipality,
[00:00:46] call it an entity, call it a state, uh,
[00:00:50] does something within its jurisdiction so it can have
[00:00:53] food, so its distribution channel isn't long, so it has
[00:00:57] food in its immediate surroundings, potable..." That's what the man from your report said nicely, whoever
[00:01:01] doesn't have that, they are, you can't even
[00:01:05] uh, they are on say, even a fool, but they should be hanged as
[00:01:09] an example, because that's what we need, that's what
[00:01:13] we live from, that's what gives you
[00:01:15] existence, that's what's done, why is it done?
[00:01:19] The authorities don't care at all that food will come, excellent,
[00:01:23] it comes from imports, they charged indirect
[00:01:26] taxes, they charged everything, just let the budget be filled. "Let
[00:01:30] us have something to spend, where do those revenues come from,
[00:01:33] who cares,
[00:01:35] relies on those imports, on look, please, at the last indicators, a drop in exports,
[00:01:39] industrial production, everything, then
[00:01:42] they boast about the growth of the average salary, whose
[00:01:45] average salary? The fact that you increased salaries with your
[00:01:48] act where possible, you increased
[00:01:52] salaries, industrial production fell, and now you're
[00:01:55] telling me that this is a sustainable system? Of course it's
[00:01:58] unsustainable." What the government in
[00:02:01] Bosnia and Herzegovina also likes
[00:02:05] to boast about is a small number
[00:02:08] of kilometers of highway that are built, seven
[00:02:11] specifically on Corridor
[00:02:13] the industrial city, 5c, which is 250 km
[00:02:16] of highway in 25 years, and
[00:02:19] a record 2.1 billion
[00:02:23] euros has been spent. Can we, will we ever
[00:02:26] succeed in estimating, finding out, uh...
[00:02:30] how much of that went into the pockets of officials at
[00:02:34] various levels of government?
[00:02:38] Uh, you know what, I was in my prime years, this, when they
[00:02:41] started that, now we will, then now it will, then
[00:02:45] old age caught up with me
[00:02:48] in yet another of
[00:02:50] the promises that it will be by this year, by that
[00:02:54] year, I think that I will be cremated or
[00:02:58] buried before that happens. It won't, just as
[00:03:02] no one will audit all those projects,
[00:03:05] to see what the real price is, what is inflated,
[00:03:09] as, uh, all of them know well, both
[00:03:12] the current government and the current opposition,
[00:03:16] when they were together, separately,
[00:03:20] everything else, that I remember their
[00:03:24] everything has boiled down to deals, schemes, how
[00:03:26] envelopes and huge wads of cash in huge envelopes
[00:03:30] were carried so that the authorities wouldn't notice, it goes from one gas station to
[00:03:34] another gas station and so on.
[00:03:37] They know that, I know, not to mention, if you go
[00:03:41] on those highways, in most cases you will see so many
[00:03:45] illogicalities that it's terrifying, meaning
[00:03:48] that bad material was built in,
[00:03:51] that something wasn't done well,
[00:03:54] so we will
[00:03:56] fix it. No one will ever be held accountable for that, but...
[00:04:00] "we'll now listen for the elections, great
[00:04:02] ones, not to mention these roads that lead
[00:04:06] nowhere, well built, but now
[00:04:09] there's nothing built, you don't know where to
[00:04:12] go next, so we will again hear about record
[00:04:16] achievements, about how much was built, and
[00:04:20] that the former ones didn't do this, and those over there didn't do that,
[00:04:24] but now when it starts, I don't know, there will even be
[00:04:28] a spaceport, yes."
[00:04:30] "Empty promises are made that we have from cycle to
[00:04:33] cycle, but something is new, at the same time
[00:04:37] now we also have video clips of politicians on social
[00:04:40] networks, which are somehow commented on the most out
[00:04:44] of all pressing problems, far
[00:04:47] more, is that a thought-out strategy
[00:04:50] of diverting attention from the essence,
[00:04:53] or is it just
[00:04:56] their spontaneity and relaxation in communication?".
[00:05:00] And how do you comment on, for example, the video clips of the head
[00:05:03] of diplomacy, the mayor of a Sarajevo
[00:05:06] municipality? when you don't know how to
[00:05:10] do anything, when you're... imitatively
[00:05:13] educated, when you don't want to
[00:05:17] roll up your sleeves and solve real problems, then you
[00:05:20] take pictures with all sorts of things, here I was
[00:05:24] I could have died not knowing that the Kosovo covenant is held in
[00:05:27] hand, that Lazar
[00:05:30] has anything to do with Banja Luka, I could have died, I wouldn't have known
[00:05:34] that, this, of course,
[00:05:37] such stupidity that one doesn't know what to say,
[00:05:40] I mean... for example,
[00:05:42] that mixing of
[00:05:45] what and what, absence of knowledge, elementary
[00:05:49] knowledge, general education, then
[00:05:52] of course pictures follow, because they like, uh, these
[00:05:56] uh, I mean, also semi-educated and their
[00:05:59] voters, just let something happen, let there be a cooperative,
[00:06:03] because that reminds me, you know, of a cooperative,
[00:06:06] a farm, couples or whatever else there is from
[00:06:09] those reality shows, that's it. "But
[00:06:13] they are on that intellectual level,
[00:06:18] the level of watching those
[00:06:21] reality shows, morally, about morality, please,
[00:06:25] I won't even talk about that, it doesn't exist, it's abolished by law
[00:06:28] here, uh, so nothing surprises me, I just say
[00:06:33] my life passed by skipping those
[00:06:35] stupidities, right? I
[00:06:39] brain cell to die
[00:06:41] watching." such scenes, but if you
[00:06:44] ask them, tell me the data
[00:06:47] on the percentage of absolute relative
[00:06:50] poverty in the country, do you know how
[00:06:54] foreign trade stands, do you know
[00:06:57] perhaps, uh, how industry stands, how
[00:07:01] will you solve social issues, why from there is no
[00:07:04] answer, it's immediately another monument or another
[00:07:08] video clip, I mean, which is
[00:07:10] scandalous.
[00:07:13] Yes, but society doesn't
[00:07:16] react adequately, not like a European civil
[00:07:19] society should react, it passively
[00:07:23] observes everything around it, uh, and the peak
[00:07:27] of our rebellion is leaving an angry smiley face on the minister's
[00:07:31] profile, uh, when will that
[00:07:34] change?
[00:07:36] Well, I don't know, I said that a long time ago, when everything falls apart, then we will
[00:07:40] start over, because there's no other
[00:07:43] solution than to patch up this something that is nothing with
[00:07:46] the same people, with the same everything, well, that
[00:07:50] is a formula for absolute
[00:07:53] failure, which is inevitable, we are patching this up now, but
[00:07:57] it will fall apart anyway and it has to fall apart so that we can
[00:08:01] start over, because with such people, with such
[00:08:05] a level, in quotation marks,
[00:08:09] we have no chance of a dawn, but you know... There's
[00:08:12] that saying, "to each saint
[00:08:16] meaning, to each saint their own prayer, what kind
[00:08:19] of saint, such a prayer,
[00:08:21] that is, uh, you offer
[00:08:25] a certain prayer, so that's how we are, what kind
[00:08:28] of voters, such a government, and but
[00:08:32] when I look at what's being offered now in the elections,
[00:08:36] well, I don't know, you really have to be a super genius to
[00:08:39] choose what you'll even color
[00:08:42] that square for and who to trust,
[00:08:46] because everyone has betrayed, everyone, there's no party
[00:08:50] that has shown that it really wants something,
[00:08:54] that it wants to change, that it's different,
[00:08:57] that, well, however it sounds to
[00:08:59] us, or don't just
[00:09:02] convince me that I don't know
[00:09:06] things from the inside, because I know things
[00:09:08] from the inside very well, uh, anyone who wants to do something
[00:09:12] will show by their example and draw the attention of
[00:09:16] others, however, there is
[00:09:18] no party that is democratically
[00:09:21] structured and that really wants to change something,
[00:09:25] we've seen that, they've been replaced, so
[00:09:29] my God, if someone
[00:09:32] talks to me about the opposition in Republika Srpska, well,
[00:09:35] they are disunited, they are divided, thereby showing how much they
[00:09:39] care about changes, not to mention how many of
[00:09:42] them jumped to the other camp
[00:09:46] for the sake of interests and so on, so from such people I really can't
[00:09:50] expect better, everything here has to
[00:09:53] collapse, I say, I am happier every day that
[00:09:57] we are close to that day and to start
[00:09:59] over, because there is no other way, otherwise,
[00:10:03] what else can happen, what scenario?
[00:10:06] These who are now foolishly spending, doing nothing, no
[00:10:10] responsibility for what they are doing, that is,
[00:10:14] they are doing, doing either crime or whatever, uh,
[00:10:17] will, when
[00:10:21] money completely runs out, they will go with a candle to look
[00:10:25] for someone who will make something again so that
[00:10:28] money can start flowing again,
[00:10:32] of course, you, we all know how that
[00:10:36] ends, that's why I say, I hope, maybe I'm too
[00:10:39] still, my hope is enormous that
[00:10:43] all this will collapse, as we say here, so that we can
[00:10:47] go, people, and rebuild it nicely
[00:10:50] from scratch, yes, but what awaits us again and... "It's
[00:10:54] like that in
[00:10:56] every election cycle, pre-election
[00:11:00] campaigns of empty promises, we already said that,
[00:11:04] we'll hear a lot, in about ten days when it all
[00:11:07] starts, but it has already started a long time ago in our country, uh, but
[00:11:11] let's go back to the essence, is there any money in the budgets at all
[00:11:15] for anything else besides salaries, oversized
[00:11:19] administration and payment of
[00:11:22] loan installments, no matter who wins in..." in
[00:11:25] October?
[00:11:28] No, because, as I told you, it can't, the system is unsustainable where
[00:11:32] your exports and industrial production are falling, and you
[00:11:35] artificially raise salaries and
[00:11:39] benefits, you haven't taken care of this so that it's a sustainable
[00:11:42] system, uh, you completely don't care whether,
[00:11:45] uh, that what the revenues
[00:11:49] are from exports and from indirect
[00:11:52] taxes, and...
[00:11:55] where, uh, most, let's say,
[00:12:00] that, we'll collect, what does it matter that it's not
[00:12:03] VAT from domestic production? So, for them, it's only important
[00:12:07] to get some kind of budget filling, what is the
[00:12:10] structure of those revenues, from what, how, what is the
[00:12:13] structure of the gross domestic product? They absolutely don't
[00:12:17] care about that, I believe most of them don't even know what that is, whether it's eaten,
[00:12:21] drunk, that, so I expect nothing.
[00:12:25] Except these who come next in
[00:12:28] the federation, probably the structure will be
[00:12:32] a little different, uh, they will talk about
[00:12:35] some former ones who, look what they did,
[00:12:39] although that's a miss, we always had this jumping, current,
[00:12:43] former, current, former, everyone has
[00:12:45] shown themselves, but there will be talk about that former one, what
[00:12:49] awaits us, a hot autumn of elections awaits
[00:12:52] us, then uh... there will be
[00:12:56] talk until the formation of government
[00:12:58] coalitions where those who until yesterday said
[00:13:02] "never" will now say "I will" because
[00:13:05] you don't understand what politics and public interest are,
[00:13:09] here public interest does not exist, only
[00:13:12] private interest, so let's call things by their real name, they will go from
[00:13:15] private interests into rotten combinations,
[00:13:18] then the establishment of a new government, and that new government
[00:13:21] will spend months of our lives, if not...
[00:13:25] longer, replacement appointment replacement
[00:13:27] appointment, during that time no one will deal with
[00:13:31] things we live from, and what can you then
[00:13:34] expect? Then another loan installment will
[00:13:37] come, let's borrow again to pay it off, and again that
[00:13:41] story, we had this as a legacy in Republika Srpska, it will
[00:13:45] be similar, that
[00:13:49] candidate, that's new in the upcoming
[00:13:51] elections, Dragan Đović was also in the last elections, well, he wasn't
[00:13:55] in the last ones, not now, so what, that's my next
[00:13:59] next question, is that the real beginning of political
[00:14:03] retirement or uh, just a departure into the shadows
[00:14:07] from which he will manage all
[00:14:10] processes both in Republika Srpska and in Bosnia and
[00:14:13] Herzegovina. I won all bets with that
[00:14:17] story when they shouted "he's done" that he's not done, that
[00:14:21] it's completely irrelevant. He formally has no function, but he is
[00:14:25] the owner of everything, decides everything, is asked about
[00:14:28] everything, uh, now it's already a family
[00:14:32] business, that, so I don't know, I don't understand
[00:14:36] what political retirement is being talked about, there needs to
[00:14:39] be a bit of a bigger tremor, as you can see,
[00:14:42] there's intensive lobbying, intensive
[00:14:45] work is being done to make things appear different
[00:14:48] and similar things, so I don't see
[00:14:52] that political retirement, this
[00:14:54] that... some statements are being made, look, they are not
[00:14:58] candidates, we managed to get Čović and Dodik
[00:15:01] off the list, well, Čović wasn't even in the last elections, did
[00:15:05] that diminish his power? Well, you ran to those same people
[00:15:09] who are now making those statements, they ran to that same Čović
[00:15:12] and that same Dodik, they ran
[00:15:16] and they will run, let's say right away, in that
[00:15:20] formation of coalitions, in making rotten
[00:15:23] compromises and everything else. So, there's no political retirement
[00:15:26] yet, no, simply no, as long as
[00:15:30] there's money from which votes will be paid,
[00:15:34] people, buying people, no.
[00:15:39] And does the opposition in Republika
[00:15:42] Srpska have any weight? You've already talked about that,
[00:15:46] uh, will they succeed in this performance, even though they seem,
[00:15:49] even before the elections, very chaotic, to unite
[00:15:53] and uh,
[00:15:57] come before the citizens and, uh,
[00:15:59] solve these accumulated problems, which
[00:16:03] they have been promising us for years?
[00:16:06] Well, you know what... "I think the opposition in Republika Srpska currently only relies
[00:16:10] on scanners and the fact that there is huge
[00:16:13] dissatisfaction, uh, that,
[00:16:16] I would say, the increasingly difficult life of
[00:16:19] citizens, so they will direct, as it were, towards them,
[00:16:22] however, given that they are divided, I don't know
[00:16:26] what the expectations are, further, what do you call opposition? Stanivuković,
[00:16:30] certainly not, uh,
[00:16:33] just like a circle of people around him certainly are not.
[00:16:36] What do you call opposition, I don't know,
[00:16:39] when many of them are both there and there,
[00:16:43] then you have from Belgrade, everyone is fawning over
[00:16:46] Vučić, Jelena is fawning over Vučić,
[00:16:50] Stanivuković is fawning over Vučić,
[00:16:52] Dodik, we already know what their relations are like, no matter
[00:16:56] how much they talk, they are in conflict, but their interest,
[00:17:00] interest holds them more than any glue and
[00:17:02] love, only Nebojša
[00:17:05] Vukanović exists who, uh, is not,
[00:17:09] I say, not an admirer of Vučić,
[00:17:12] Aleksandar Vučić, but Vukanović is
[00:17:16] alone in all of this, and another thing, Vukanović
[00:17:20] will always be remembered for
[00:17:22] having held hands with those same people, they were
[00:17:26] the opposition, there was great love, that he
[00:17:29] attacked anyone
[00:17:33] who said something was wrong or offered some
[00:17:36] criticism. "Then he fell out with
[00:17:39] everyone, now they are no longer the same, now
[00:17:42] there's an onslaught of criticism worse than anything I
[00:17:46] have ever said, for example, on the topic of
[00:17:49] the opposition, so I'm afraid he won't have
[00:17:53] much success in that, him as
[00:17:56] a candidate, even though he has some sympathy
[00:18:00] from people, well, at least he says something, he has the courage to
[00:18:03] say it, but everything else is divided
[00:18:06] and..." is one foot with Vučić, and the other
[00:18:10] foot with Dodik, or both feet
[00:18:12] here, that's why I say I'm
[00:18:16] very skeptical, I would
[00:18:18] like to see what it is they say
[00:18:22] will be different, what they offer, how it looks,
[00:18:26] however, you know, no party anymore,
[00:18:30] no matter how we were in the past, but parties seriously
[00:18:33] organized, or however much they respected, but at least they seriously organized
[00:18:37] trainings for their candidates,
[00:18:41] then seriously, more seriously
[00:18:43] approached the development of some programs,
[00:18:46] economic, this, that, well, now no one does that, they just come out
[00:18:50] and shout, long live the state, long live the Serbian
[00:18:54] people, we Croats
[00:18:56] are endangered, we want an electoral unit, that's it,
[00:19:01] that, yes, it seems as if the cadres
[00:19:05] were serious, what... do you predict
[00:19:08] for the Trojka coalition, just to summarize at the end
[00:19:12] what will happen in the Federation of Bosnia and
[00:19:16] Herzegovina?
[00:19:18] Uh, sometimes the cadres, you know, no matter how much we
[00:19:22] criticized them, now they look like puppets, dear puppets, what
[00:19:25] kind of how now, I always ask
[00:19:29] that same question, I've been asking it for years, what do you have in
[00:19:33] your warehouse, for God's sake, when this is your display window, you know, in the display window
[00:19:36] you go with... the most beautiful, the best, if this
[00:19:40] is the most beautiful and the best, for
[00:19:43] shelves, somewhere on a shelf, that,
[00:19:46] what do you predict in the federation, well,
[00:19:50] the troika, let's just remember that the SDP
[00:19:54] lost 100,000 votes, then when they betrayed expectations,
[00:19:57] promises, uh, it's the same way now, they can be,
[00:20:01] now they will, I think they will be well punished,
[00:20:04] uh, all of them because... "There was a lot
[00:20:08] of hope that they would be different, they didn't
[00:20:11] prove to be an iota different, better
[00:20:15] or anything, this, and they even in a shorter
[00:20:18] period did things that
[00:20:21] they condemned in, I don't know, SDA or so, so
[00:20:25] this, you know, there will be
[00:20:28] a fall, but there will be government formation, I don't
[00:20:32] know, maybe some high representative will appear again and push
[00:20:35] it, maybe the constitution." will be suspended again, maybe they will
[00:20:39] decide that, I don't know, April will be in December,
[00:20:43] December in July, I don't know, I mean,
[00:20:46] that can happen, because only that miracle can help.
[00:20:50] "Given that I don't see any other miracles except increasing
[00:20:54] fragmentation, more and more rotten
[00:20:57] combinations, coalitions and the like,
[00:21:00] I think the only constant there is the HDZ in
[00:21:04] the sense that they will certainly have
[00:21:07] votes, how many we will see, but that they will
[00:21:10] participate in the government, I believe that, just as
[00:21:14] SNSD will be there, and everything
[00:21:17] else." Believe me, it's questionable who will, how much, and
[00:21:21] what, yes, what is certain is that
[00:21:25] young people are leaving us, whole families
[00:21:28] from the country, everyone is buying a one-way
[00:21:32] ticket, wanting to secure a better life for themselves, which we will still have to wait for
[00:21:36] in Bosnia and Herzegovina, it's always a pleasure
[00:21:39] to have you as a guest, thank you for your analysis this
[00:21:42] morning, thank you for the invitation, I wish you
[00:21:46] success in your work, I wish everyone good health,
[00:21:50] above all, you will need it, yes, good
[00:21:53] health, that's the most important thing for us, Svetlana Cenić,
[00:21:56] economist, was our guest in the past few minutes,
[00:21:59] quickly, on current topics and guests, friend of the show
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[00:24:06] Muratović and Dino Kurbegović, will be
[00:24:09] shown today, uh, to the general
[00:24:12] public. About the emotional and
[00:24:15] dramatic story of Zenica's Čelik,
[00:24:18] we will talk further, our
[00:24:21] guests are the authors of the documentary, good morning and welcome. Good morning, thank you for
[00:24:25] the invitation. I said, "It will be a champion again," that's the title of the film, but the subtitle bears
[00:24:29] uh the story, the story of a club
[00:24:32] that didn't want to die. From the authors' perspective,
[00:24:36] this was truly a long and dramatic
[00:24:39] story, both for Čelik fans and for all Zenica residents and Bosnians and
[00:24:42] Herzegovinians. From your conversations with
[00:24:46] interviewees, what was it in critical moments
[00:24:49] that decided uh and was that crucial
[00:24:52] spark that saved Čelik from
[00:24:56] disappearing? Well, if I may start,
[00:24:59] so, uh, we, looking at all
[00:25:03] that firsthand, especially my colleague
[00:25:06] Dino, who is truly, we can say, when it comes to
[00:25:09] Zenica affairs, somehow
[00:25:12] the most passionate follower,
[00:25:16] that is, chronicler of everything related to
[00:25:19] Čelik, it was truly an agony
[00:25:22] of many years
[00:25:26] in that many-year
[00:25:30] existence of a club burdened
[00:25:33] with all possible problems, from financial,
[00:25:36] personnel, mm, most of all, somehow,
[00:25:40] as our interviewees told us, the trust of the fans
[00:25:43] was lost at one point, but they did not abandon the club,
[00:25:46] they taught a very important lesson to everyone, we can say, that
[00:25:50] it was actually, as one of our interviewees
[00:25:53] said, the street, in quotation marks,
[00:25:56] not in a negative sense, but the street created
[00:25:59] the club, the street saved it, and it was the one that gave the most help
[00:26:03] when it was most needed, actually those hardcore fans,
[00:26:07] to call them that, who don't care who they play against,
[00:26:10] don't care where they play, whether it's Old
[00:26:14] Trafford or, I don't know, Vareš somewhere in the cantonal league,
[00:26:18] but they come to all those matches because they come there
[00:26:21] for Čelik. On the other hand, at
[00:26:25] that moment when the club itself was
[00:26:28] on the verge of extinction, they
[00:26:30] decisively stood up in its defense. And today,
[00:26:34] six years after those darkest
[00:26:38] moments, even when there was corona and all that, we have a
[00:26:41] club that has jumped those three leagues, that has
[00:26:45] returned, that plays in its full stadium, mm, which
[00:26:49] no debts in which everything that is promised is
[00:26:52] fulfilled, and we can truly say, if you
[00:26:56] asked about what was crucial, that it was truly
[00:26:59] that one hard-to-describe.
[00:27:02] "we tried to describe it in the film, but it's a hard-to-describe, hard-to-
[00:27:05] explain fan passion and love, which at
[00:27:09] this moment, simply because it had no
[00:27:13] boundaries, there was no fear, people even faced threats,
[00:27:16] blackmail, some physical
[00:27:20] attacks, but they never once thought that
[00:27:23] that fight was lost, and
[00:27:26] well, our shared, well, happiness
[00:27:30] mm we have that "happy end" in our film,
[00:27:34] yes. You emphasized that
[00:27:37] this is not a classic sports documentary from your presentation, we
[00:27:41] managed to conclude that, Mr.
[00:27:44] Kurbegović, how much of this story is about Zenica itself,
[00:27:48] uh, its working-class identity,
[00:27:51] precisely about this fact that Čelik
[00:27:54] in this city is more than a football club. Well, yes,
[00:27:57] when you mention Zenica, it's known what the first two
[00:28:01] associations are. "It has always been KP Dom and the football club
[00:28:05] Čelik, that is, this Zenica Ironworks, which, as we can
[00:28:09] see, in recent months, what is happening,
[00:28:13] that people have lost their jobs, that
[00:28:16] so to speak, is slowly transforming into something
[00:28:19] else, so that Čelik remains only a
[00:28:23] football club. In this regard, we tried to
[00:28:26] convey through university professors
[00:28:30] this one story about the city." About Čelik.
[00:28:33] Yes, Čelik must not die out. Čelik as
[00:28:37] Čelik, our interlocutors will see this
[00:28:40] in the film, what all happened there, mm,
[00:28:44] it's not just a sports story, this is something more than that,
[00:28:48] and that's why we want everyone to watch it,
[00:28:51] all those who want to learn something new
[00:28:54] about Zenica, not just about the club, about
[00:28:58] people, ordinary people who are this...
[00:29:03] who work in Zenica, who spend their whole lives in
[00:29:06] Zenica, but who are connected to that stadium, to that
[00:29:10] football club for decades, and as
[00:29:13] our one former this one who is not with us,
[00:29:16] this actor says, if you destroy Čelik,
[00:29:20] you have destroyed this city as well, those are the words
[00:29:24] of our Haris Burina, this one who
[00:29:27] also appears, this his mural in the film,
[00:29:30] so that's it, that's... identification with
[00:29:34] the city. Čelik is identification and
[00:29:36] believe me, I'm speaking from my personal experience, if Čelik
[00:29:40] had been shut down, I personally wouldn't see myself in the
[00:29:44] city where I've lived for 41 years, it's
[00:29:47] simply something that cannot be described, something that
[00:29:50] is born in you from
[00:29:53] from the first year, you start with
[00:29:57] it, you fall in love with it, then it
[00:30:00] goes from generation to generation, we tried to portray this
[00:30:04] in the film through the interlocutors, through the fans,
[00:30:07] one fan, to reveal,
[00:30:10] here, who has been blind for 40, 50
[00:30:13] years, but who goes to every Čelik match
[00:30:16] in Zenica, who has his
[00:30:20] companion, a 20-year-old boy who
[00:30:23] commentates the matches live for him, truly an
[00:30:26] incredible story, incredible
[00:30:29] footage, and I believe that we will reach
[00:30:33] every citizen, even those who don't support
[00:30:37] that club, but who will be particularly inspired
[00:30:40] by that story. Yes, a very emotional story, and uh
[00:30:44] truly, Čelik has fans,
[00:30:47] such as some famous world
[00:30:50] clubs have, uh, unfortunately
[00:30:53] in Zenica, the production of Čelik is almost
[00:30:56] shut down. Fortunately, that didn't happen, uh...