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[00:00:00] nothing new, always boring, but somehow [00:00:03] always, well, always that certain, how should I say, [00:00:06] potential possibility [00:00:08] for for raising tensions always exists, so, that [00:00:12] is, that is something that is proven, that works for 30 years, [00:00:16] that, uh, that narrative of fear [00:00:19] is always present, of being threatened by one another, [00:00:23] others by the first, third, and so on, so that is something that is always [00:00:26] present, I hope that it won't be, that people are a little [00:00:30] smarter and that they will [00:00:33] choose, well, let's hope, based on some political [00:00:36] program, I haven't seen many of those political programs, [00:00:40] uh, I think people still, how should I say, go for very [00:00:43] cheap, simple slogans, because [00:00:47] how, how should I say, if you don't have, if it's permanently, if politicians [00:00:50] are permanently in the field, then you practically don't [00:00:53] care about any programs, because we practically need from that September 4th [00:00:57] to have a, as a starting position, so everyone from [00:01:01] that September 4th starts from the same, from the same starting [00:01:04] point, it's not happening, so, we all saw [00:01:08] everyone was out, everyone was doing something and [00:01:11] lo and behold, in that election year, yes, Elvira, [00:01:15] for the end, for the first time citizens will have [00:01:19] this new technology [00:01:23] zaista povećati povjerenje u [00:01:26] so considering the the electoral process or will doubts in the results remain without [00:01:30] Well, I think that, uh, [00:01:33] all data indicates that it should eliminate [00:01:36] the most basic, how should I say, electoral manipulations, so I really [00:01:40] hope that electoral will help in the process [00:01:44] so that, uh, elections are fair, transparent, [00:01:48] as much as possible within Bosnia and Herzegovina, [00:01:51] that these, uh, so to speak, main obstacles or their main [00:01:55] mechanisms for stealing votes will be removed [00:01:59] and that we will... have somewhat fairer elections compared [00:02:02] to the previous ones, of course, I think voters should have [00:02:06] been informed earlier about the voting process, uh, how [00:02:10] to approach it, so, I think the campaign here [00:02:13] uh started late, uh, but it's not that [00:02:17] difficult, so, it's enough to watch [00:02:20] two or three videos and and and it will be, it will be very, very [00:02:24] simple, so, technologies are not [00:02:27] an obstacle, so technologies should help that process be as [00:02:30] efficient as possible, I believe it will be. Elvira, [00:02:34] thank you very much for your time and for being a guest on N1 TV's morning program, [00:02:38] dear viewers, stay tuned for a new day. [00:02:55] Vučić to A large fire broke out yesterday [00:02:57] in Konjic, the fire affected part of the pine forest. Live [00:03:01] with us Husein Hodžić, Assistant [00:03:03] capacities at the federal level or I don't know at Mayor in the Civil Protection and Firefighting Service of the City of Konjic, Mr. [00:03:07] Hodžić, good day, please tell us what the [00:03:11] current situation is in Repovica, is the fire under [00:03:14] control? [00:03:17] Good day from Konjic, the situation this morning is much better than [00:03:21] yesterday, during the night, all fire brigades [00:03:24] were on the ground and managed to bring the fire under [00:03:28] control, so now I have... a much better situation than it was [00:03:31] yesterday, yes, how many teams are on the ground, have [00:03:35] you requested, yesterday there was some information about a helicopter from the armed [00:03:39] forces, but also a Canadair from Croatia? [00:03:43] Yes, all, all available [00:03:45] and, [00:03:53] hello, continue, continue, Mr. Hodžić, it seems [00:03:56] someone called you. [00:04:00] That's right, that's right, all the teams we had, we immediately [00:04:03] engaged yesterday, although we still have several fires in the area [00:04:07] of our municipality, we organized [00:04:10] ourselves in a short time and we had a lot of people there, besides the firefighters [00:04:13] themselves, volunteers, our [00:04:16] other services that deal with protection and rescue, there were also many [00:04:19] citizens, so we all together [00:04:23] organized very quickly and [00:04:26] started extinguishing, the most important thing was to save... [00:04:30] buildings, given that there were many houses nearby, many commercial [00:04:33] buildings, fortunately we succeeded [00:04:35] there, at that moment, indeed, every help [00:04:39] was needed, so assistance was requested in [00:04:42] the form of helicopters, [00:04:46] it was communicated whether it was possible to provide that support [00:04:50] in the form of a Canadair, so we [00:04:52] had those promises, that they could be realized during the [00:04:56] day, but fortunately the situation improved overnight. [00:05:00] and we don't need to engage such [00:05:03] resources this morning, yes, do you have data on how large [00:05:06] an area was affected by the fire, do you perhaps already have an [00:05:10] estimate of the damage? [00:05:13] Well, look, at this moment it is very difficult, but the mere fact that [00:05:17] the entire railway line, somewhere around 400, [00:05:20] caught fire in a short time and the entire hill [00:05:23] was burning, so it is indeed a [00:05:27] grim picture, given that it enters the city itself, that these are [00:05:31] in a way the lungs of the city, [00:05:33] but it is what it is, unfortunately we are fighting [00:05:37] the consequences, it is clear to us that preventative [00:05:40] activities must be better, that [00:05:43] all those who deal [00:05:46] with their own, so to speak, work must raise the level [00:05:49] of fire protection to a higher level, and [00:05:52] here we are struggling with this railway line where the [00:05:56] train passes, because every year we have several such fires there, and [00:05:59] they often get out of control due to the steep, [00:06:02] inaccessible terrain, then we have [00:06:06] great damage, especially on forest [00:06:09] land, yes, Mr. Hodžić, a little... earlier you said that [00:06:13] several more fires are active in the [00:06:17] municipality of Konjic, where exactly are they in the [00:06:20] municipality? [00:06:22] Well, for several days now we have had several active [00:06:26] fires, that's the area of Mount Bitovinje, in the local [00:06:29] community of Glavatićevo around the area of [00:06:32] Ratkamen, then the local community of Bjelimići, the villages of [00:06:35] Ljuta, Ljubuča, [00:06:38] capacities we have at the local level, we are constantly all on... [00:06:42] the field and we are really tired and [00:06:46] exhausted, but here with human effort [00:06:49] we are trying to reach everywhere, at least to [00:06:52] be where it is most needed, that is near buildings, houses, and to avoid [00:06:56] much damage. Yes, is there a possibility to [00:06:59] increase capacities, considering that, as you said, [00:07:03] from season to season we witness numerous [00:07:06] fires, such is the area, [00:07:08] Herzegovina, hot, you yourself mentioned that situation [00:07:13] with the railway, are there any, any [00:07:16] possibility to [00:07:18] strengthen the capacities regarding firefighting in [00:07:22] Konjic? Well, through [00:07:25] past periods, taught by our experience, we really [00:07:28] invested a lot in equipment, in [00:07:31] the capacities we have, but when you have a fire [00:07:35] in one day in five different [00:07:38] locations, that exceeds all capacities of one... [00:07:42] local community, no matter how well equipped it is, what [00:07:46] is a positive example this and last year is [00:07:49] this engagement of air tractors, where the [00:07:52] cantonal civil protection administration, together with other cantons and the government of the federation, [00:07:55] launched this procedure, it really [00:07:59] is efficient and helps [00:08:02] and we have a quick response, the arrival [00:08:05] of those tractors to the field if there are no fires [00:08:09] in other parts, so we should... [00:08:12] consider strengthening these [00:08:16] what level, because one local community, no matter how [00:08:19] well equipped, when you have fires in one day in five different [00:08:23] locations, and especially if it lasts for days, [00:08:27] it's impossible to respond to all of that [00:08:30] qualitatively, timely and [00:08:32] professionally. 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After his [00:11:08] death, we witnessed gatherings where the war [00:11:11] criminal was celebrated, as well as numerous reports for glorifying war [00:11:15] crimes. At the same time, the right-wing is gaining strength across Europe. The latest example [00:11:18] comes from Germany where the AfD won about 44% [00:11:22] of the votes in the elections in Saxony-Anhalt. [00:11:25] A result that strongly resonated across Europe, and Bosnia [00:11:28] and Herzegovina is in a pre-election campaign, national themes, war [00:11:32] heritage, fear and identity are once [00:11:36] citizens on October 4th decide who they will give [00:11:39] their trust to. Is the strengthening of the right-wing a European trend that will spill over to [00:11:43] Bosnia and Herzegovina and why are war criminals today [00:11:46] used for political mobilization? Can the pre-election [00:11:49] campaign once again be a campaign of fear and division? We discuss [00:11:53] this with Vedran Džihić, a political [00:11:55] researcher from the Institute for International Politics in Vienna, good morning and thank [00:11:59] you for speaking for a new day. Good morning from [00:12:02] Vienna. Let's start with what happened [00:12:06] after the death of Ratko Mladić, we saw his glorification, [00:12:09] rallies, denial of war crimes. What does that [00:12:13] tell us, Mr. Džihić, about the society we live in today? [00:12:15] Well, I would highlight three [00:12:19] central messages, three central [00:12:22] factors, that can be seen from these events [00:12:26] uh in the last few days, [00:12:29] the first thing is that here we see a [00:12:32] clear, uh, continuity uh, of a [00:12:35] nationalist Serbia which [00:12:39] has roots in the 80s, at [00:12:42] the beginning of mobilization, [00:12:45] nationalist mobilization by Slobodan Milošević, extends through the entire [00:12:49] 90s, then with a brief [00:12:52] exception of the phase when Zoran Đinđić was [00:12:56] prime minister, it extends to today, meaning that [00:12:59] continuity uh, of nationalist [00:13:02] mobilization which is skillfully [00:13:04] used to mobilize voters and [00:13:08] the electorate and to secure power is something [00:13:11] that is frightening, something that [00:13:15] indicates the fact that Serbian society is not [00:13:19] managing to transform towards an open [00:13:22] democratic, emancipated society that is founded on [00:13:26] liberal democratic values, so that continuity [00:13:29] of nationalism, and at the same time [00:13:32] of course authoritarianism or autocracy, is really [00:13:36] concerning, as it has been going on for almost 40 [00:13:39] years since Slobodan Milošević took power [00:13:42] in '86, '87 onwards, uh, the second factor [00:13:46] which is, which is, which is in my opinion [00:13:49] visible is, uh, [00:13:52] a, [00:13:54] let's say, civilizational, a civilizational moment, [00:13:57] uh, which is 12, we are in [00:14:00] 2026, uh, and we should start [00:14:04] from the premise that there is a minimum [00:14:07] of standards of civilizational values that apply [00:14:11] uh, globally and throughout the world. [00:14:15] Serbia here, with the [00:14:17] glorification of criminals and [00:14:21] crimes that are unprecedented, [00:14:24] uh, besides the Second World War onwards in [00:14:28] the whole of Europe, it places itself outside of those [00:14:31] civilizational values, uh, [00:14:34] it shows that it is ready, that is, that the current [00:14:37] government, uh, or the current regime, is ready, uh, to [00:14:41] for the sake of political power, leave all those civilizational values aside, [00:14:44] uh, in that way show an inhuman, [00:14:48] inhumane, uh, character, meaning there is nothing [00:14:52] holier or more important than human life, uh... "and [00:14:55] of course, to celebrate someone who is responsible for [00:14:58] so many, uh, lost human lives [00:15:02] is truly an overstepping of all civilizational values and that [00:15:06] cannot go without consequences, uh, the third, the third [00:15:09] factor, to conclude, is about [00:15:13] the character of Aleksandar Vučić's regime, of course, with [00:15:16] Aleksandar Vučić himself we have a continuity of glorifying [00:15:20] Ratko Mladić from the 90s onwards, we remember 97, [00:15:24] 98, 99, his role as [00:15:27] Minister of Information [00:15:29] uh, and promoting the values that [00:15:33] Ratko Mladić advocated, so that's one thing, but the other thing [00:15:37] is that... his eternal attempt to, for the sake [00:15:40] of maintaining power, do everything [00:15:44] that is necessary and to bend, in quotation marks, and [00:15:47] wriggle in every possible way, and here this act, this de [00:15:51] facto state funeral, de facto funeral with [00:15:55] state and military honors for Mladić, [00:15:58] to which he then sends his son, where [00:16:01] Serbian government ministers appear, he at the same time, due to [00:16:05] supposedly some other appointments, uh, [00:16:08] does not attend that funeral and that act [00:16:12] is precisely such a pragmatic move, meaning I want to [00:16:16] mobilize, uh, my voters, to [00:16:19] maintain my nationalist ideological story, uh, [00:16:23] to show that it is alive, that I am the protector of that [00:16:25] fictitious proud Serbia which has nothing to be proud [00:16:29] of in this specific case, and at the same time [00:16:33] uh, behind the scenes, uh, to officials in the European Union, [00:16:38] I send a message, I can't do it any other way, I have to [00:16:41] do this, because the pressure from the right-wing is enormous, I [00:16:45] am the one who is pragmatic and who will find some [00:16:48] kind of a way out of all that, so all of that, what [00:16:52] he has been doing for a long time, [00:16:54] tactics so that in the next elections, which are, [00:16:58] which will happen a few weeks after our elections in Bosnia and [00:17:01] Herzegovina on October 25th, to again win [00:17:05] the victory, here's a comment. How do you comment on yesterday's moves by the Minister [00:17:09] of Foreign Affairs of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Elmedin Konaković, regarding the [00:17:12] expulsion of two officials of the embassy [00:17:16] of Serbia, they have 48 hours to leave [00:17:19] Bosnia and Herzegovina, and now on the other hand, there was a reaction from the Serbian [00:17:23] embassy and they actually say that [00:17:26] Konaković's move does not contribute to good neighborly [00:17:30] relations, they remain committed to peace, dialogue in [00:17:33] the interest of the entire region, we are witnessing [00:17:36] images for days... after the death of Ratko [00:17:39] Mladić, what is actually happening in Serbia? Well, [00:17:43] look, that phrase "commitment to peace and dialogue" is something that Aleksandar Vučić [00:17:47] has been using for years, when he took power, he in [00:17:51] almost every one of his appearances, and he has them [00:17:53] almost daily, emphasizes that he advocates for peace, [00:17:57] for regional peace, for reconciliation, that he [00:18:00] is a pragmatic politician, at the same time five sentences later, 10 [00:18:03] sentences later, he uses the most [00:18:07] derogatory words for political opponents and again, of course, [00:18:11] incites them in every possible [00:18:14] way, not to mention concrete political [00:18:18] steps, so it is completely cynical in this case [00:18:21] for the Serbian government to emphasize that they [00:18:24] advocate for peace and reconciliation in the region if someone who was [00:18:28] responsible for the destruction of the entire [00:18:32] region and for the aggression on Bosnia and Herzegovina throughout the 1990s [00:18:36] is glorified. Pure political cynicism, it [00:18:39] has nothing to do with any principles of diplomatic and political [00:18:43] life that apply in the normal world, uh, [00:18:46] the move of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, uh, is [00:18:50] of course, uh, morally and ethically and [00:18:53] politically correct, of course [00:18:56] that will, uh, lead to a worsening of regional [00:18:59] relations between Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, which then [00:19:03] somehow fits into the picture of a region that is, for example, [00:19:07] some twenty years ago, during [00:19:10] the 2000s, uh, during [00:19:14] the presidency of Serbia, Boris Tadić, [00:19:17] in the time of Josipović, in the time of some [00:19:20] more flexible coalitions in BiH, there were many steps towards [00:19:24] reconciliation, towards trying to find a common language, all of [00:19:28] that, uh, seems from today's [00:19:31] perspective to be a distant past, we have returned to [00:19:34] a period of animosity, incitement, [00:19:37] "mobilization of totally disrupted regional [00:19:41] relations, so what is happening between Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia, [00:19:45] of course politically correct, on the part of the Ministry of Foreign [00:19:48] Affairs, uh, but again it will be instrumentalized by [00:19:52] the Serbian authorities, similar tensions in [00:19:55] continuity we have between Serbia and Croatia, there [00:19:59] of course these tensions are produced in Zagreb, in Belgrade, not to [00:20:03] mention the relations between Belgrade and Priština which de [00:20:06] facto do not exist. There is also tension on the line between Montenegro and [00:20:10] Serbia, so the entire region is in a way [00:20:13] in 2026, so many years after [00:20:16] the wars, uh, in a, uh, vicious [00:20:19] circle from which at this moment I see no [00:20:22] way out. Yes, uh, and [00:20:25] now, we mentioned the election [00:20:29] campaign when it comes to Bosnia and Herzegovina, but elections have [00:20:32] been called in Serbia, do we have [00:20:36] reason to expect that politicians in this [00:20:39] campaign will talk more about the past than about the economy, youth emigration, [00:20:43] salaries, healthcare, education? [00:20:47] Well, we now have two different questions. The question of elections in Bosnia and [00:20:51] Herzegovina, the question of elections in Serbia, this, which are in some way connected, [00:20:55] right, they condition each other, but [00:20:58] we still have to look at them separately, as far as the elections in Bosnia and [00:21:02] Herzegovina are concerned, uh, unfortunately we have, as they say [00:21:06] in English, more of the same, meaning we don't have any particularly new dynamics, [00:21:09] we have old faces on the lists, [00:21:12] electoral lists of political parties, we have a [00:21:15] political scene that is very sluggish, that does not [00:21:18] refresh itself, there are no... these new young [00:21:22] ambitious progressive politicians, [00:21:25] almost on any list with a few [00:21:27] exceptions, meaning here we have the same political [00:21:30] setup, we have uh, the same, the same [00:21:34] grouping of themes, meaning that what is [00:21:38] unfortunately in some way inscribed in the [00:21:42] core of Dayton Bosnia and Herzegovina appears, that ethno [00:21:45] national, ethno political moment of competition where [00:21:48] it comes. to the phenomenon of communicating [00:21:52] vessels, meaning one conservative people, political [00:21:55] parties, uh, use, uh, in [00:21:58] some way demonizing another political party from another [00:22:02] conservative people to uh, get votes, [00:22:06] that negative dynamic of ethnopolitics, ethnonationalism, ethno [00:22:09] nationalist mobilization is seen in [00:22:13] this election campaign, uh, of course, since Bosnia and Herzegovina [00:22:17] is a fragmented society, then of course. the election [00:22:21] campaign is very fragmented, we have a multitude [00:22:23] of interesting [00:22:26] specific dynamics, whether it is now the election for uh [00:22:29] the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, whether it is the question of how [00:22:33] the assembly of the Republika Srpska will look, where we have [00:22:36] however one kind of political battle between SNSD [00:22:39] and the opposition bloc, whether it is the question of how this [00:22:43] big battle between SDA and other political [00:22:47] parties in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina will be resolved. it is of course also the [00:22:50] question that HDZ often [00:22:53] emphasizes, of legitimate political representation and [00:22:56] the battle for the Croatian member of the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, these are all now separate [00:23:00] dynamics that we could really talk about for a long time, as for [00:23:04] Serbia, just briefly, uh, two, two sentences, [00:23:07] uh, these elections in Serbia, unlike the elections in Bosnia and Herzegovina, are [00:23:11] uh, a possible turning point, they are, perhaps we can [00:23:14] mark them as historical, uh, [00:23:17] historical because for the first time and... We have [00:23:21] a potent, potent opposition movement with student [00:23:25] lists, we will see how that dynamic will unfold in the next few [00:23:28] days, we will see names, we will see new faces, we will see [00:23:32] a new kind of political struggle and mobilization, then [00:23:35] the central question, of course, remains whether Europe and [00:23:39] domestic institutions and citizens will allow [00:23:42] SNS and [00:23:45] massively, uh, let's say, brazenly [00:23:48] mobilize and manipulate this election campaign and the election [00:23:52] act itself, or will we have at least somewhat [00:23:54] uh, free elections, which I doubt at this [00:23:58] moment definitely, and of course the question is whether [00:24:02] there can be some tectonic changes in Serbia which would [00:24:05] of course, if they were to happen, if Aleksandar Vučić's regime were to fall, [00:24:08] which would perhaps have positive [00:24:11] repercussions for Bosnia and Herzegovina. Yes, when [00:24:15] we are already talking about Serbia and you mentioned Europe, does it seem to you that [00:24:18] somehow, uh... "Europe's attitude towards [00:24:21] Serbia is lenient, can there be some sanctions against Serbia, and even [00:24:25] Milorad Dodik, is it realistic for Vučić's [00:24:29] party to be expelled from the European People's Party, the largest [00:24:33] group of parties in the European [00:24:35] Parliament? [00:24:37] Well, you are certainly right, the European Union's attitude towards Aleksandar Vučić and [00:24:41] the SNS regime in Serbia has been extremely [00:24:44] lenient, there is that expert term [00:24:47] 'stabilocracy', where simply the European [00:24:51] Union for many years, not only the European Union, but also high-ranking [00:24:54] officials of certain countries, like former Chancellor Angela [00:24:57] Merkel, where they saw in Vučić a possible reformer [00:25:01] and pragmatic politician who can ensure peace and stability in [00:25:05] the region, I think that, uh, simply that [00:25:08] illusion, that image of Vučić, uh, [00:25:11] has long since become very transparent [00:25:14] and everyone in the European Union, in Brussels, in Germany and [00:25:18] anywhere in the capitals knows that Vučić is not that [00:25:22] pragmatic politician who will deliver [00:25:24] changes, but to some extent, that [00:25:28] lenient stance towards him continues [00:25:31] to be prolonged, we still have it today, meaning we have voices in [00:25:35] the European Union that are very clear, and on this [00:25:38] occasion of the funeral of war criminal Ratko Mladić, we had [00:25:42] we had a clear criticism of, from [00:25:45] Marta Kos, we also had, here's what's very [00:25:48] interesting and... noteworthy in Brussels circles, the statement [00:25:52] by Manfred Weber who leads the faction [00:25:55] of the European People's Party, the largest party in the European [00:25:58] Parliament, uh, who clearly and unambiguously [00:26:02] criticized Serbia for exceeding those [00:26:06] civilizational values I was talking about, so that is an important [00:26:09] sign, Manfred Weber is an important , important [00:26:13] politician within the European People's Party, one of [00:26:16] the most important, uh, so we definitely have a new [00:26:19] dynamic, it's clear that things won't be able to return [00:26:22] from Brussels' perspective to what we had a few years ago, [00:26:26] now the only question that arises is whether Europe at this [00:26:30] moment is sufficiently determined and ready [00:26:34] to take some, to take some more radical [00:26:38] steps towards Serbia in the midst of the election campaign, one [00:26:41] of the proposals is, we hear this, yesterday, [00:26:44] today, also this morning from Brussels, that some parties, [00:26:47] some uh representatives of political parties in the European Parliament, and [00:26:51] some representatives of the capitals of the European Union [00:26:54] are considering uh to de facto [00:26:57] put Serbia on a side track of the European integration [00:27:01] process. To deny all financial support [00:27:05] to Serbia, to put it de facto on the same [00:27:08] level as Turkey, which is an official candidate for membership in the European [00:27:12] Union, but that candidacy has been de facto frozen for a very long [00:27:16] time, so we have quite a few interesting, [00:27:19] interesting moments and we need to see what will happen in the next few [00:27:22] weeks. And now Mr. Džihic, to conclude, let's comment, [00:27:26] at the same time we are seeing the strengthening of the right [00:27:29] across Europe, in Germany the AfD won 40.4% [00:27:33] of the votes. Now, how can we interpret [00:27:37] that result, is it a passing [00:27:40] protest or vote or a serious shift [00:27:43] of the political, political center of Europe to the [00:27:46] right, can that somehow spill over to the [00:27:50] Balkans and change relations between Bosnia [00:27:53] and Herzegovina and Germany? [00:27:57] Well, I think this is a tectonic tectonic change [00:28:00] for Germany. Democratic Germany since '45, [00:28:04] uh, this is not a passing phenomenon, this is a phenomenon [00:28:08] that has put down such [00:28:11] deep, deep roots and which truly represents [00:28:15] a very big and dangerous [00:28:17] turning point for that democratic [00:28:21] liberal Germany, which of course, as one [00:28:24] of the most important, strongest European countries, uh, [00:28:28] has an extremely great significance for everything that happens in Europe. [00:28:32] Of course, in the world, in our region, the AfD has managed [00:28:35] to mobilize, first and foremost, [00:28:39] emotions, negative emotions towards the current [00:28:42] government in Germany, for example, Chancellor Merkel currently [00:28:46] has the support of only 13% of the electorate [00:28:49] in Germany, 70, 80% of Germans [00:28:53] are of the opinion that this current government is not pursuing [00:28:56] good policies and all those frustrations, [00:28:59] all those structural changes in the German economy, the automotive [00:29:03] industry, rising prices, [00:29:06] the inability to reform healthcare, the pension system, everything that this [00:29:10] government is trying to solve in some way with some [00:29:13] tactics, mic by mic, right, step by step, uh, [00:29:16] all of that, all those frustrations the AfD managed to [00:29:20] mobilize, uh, so it's a party based [00:29:23] on emotions, now those emotions they mobilized with [00:29:27] one candidate Ulrich Sigmund who [00:29:31] is very telegenic, very rhetorically [00:29:34] skilled, uh, that of course here, that's what's dangerous, [00:29:38] connects with an ideological matrix, that ideological matrix [00:29:42] is extremely right-wing, right-wing [00:29:45] extremist, uh, it sets radical [00:29:48] demands, a complete, uh, complete [00:29:51] transformation of Germany, uh, a completely different [00:29:55] attitude towards migrants, who make up the German state and [00:29:58] the German economy, uh, that's where... [00:30:02] "many experts in Germany see a danger to both the German [00:30:05] constitution and the German democratic order, so here we have [00:30:08] the willingness of a political party that is very powerful at this moment, [00:30:12] to completely change all the foundations [00:30:15] of post-war Germany, which would of course be an [00:30:19] incredibly big, incredibly big change for all [00:30:22] of Europe, uh, that of course has implications, [00:30:26] directly now, but long-term and medium-term certainly for [00:30:29] the Western Balkans, until now Germany..." as much as we can [00:30:33] criticize certain steps, the German government has nevertheless been consistent [00:30:37] in its policy towards the Western Balkans in insisting on democratic [00:30:40] liberal values, uh, specifically in its criticism [00:30:44] of Milorad Dodik, uh, and so on and so forth, if [00:30:48] during the next year or two until the general [00:30:52] elections in Germany, uh, which are only in three years, however, [00:30:56] but this time passes quickly, if the [00:30:59] AfD were to strengthen and...