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[00:00:00] railway station through Hum further towards
[00:00:04] Vogošća, also the railway line that goes along the eastern side of
[00:00:07] the airport towards the hill "my own" (brdo mojima), so that is the concept of the urban
[00:00:11] plan which represents the vision of this city. It doesn't include
[00:00:14] the small promenade along Miljacka, the profession
[00:00:18] says that it's not
[00:00:22] exactly viewed within
[00:00:25] the regulated riverbed, it's somehow rigidly observed
[00:00:28] and they don't see that there is riverbank activation,
[00:00:32] construction of a promenade, what
[00:00:34] we wished would happen precisely at this
[00:00:38] location? If we talk about the location of the promenade
[00:00:42] and the extension of Wilson's Promenade, that is defined by regulatory plans
[00:00:45] quadrant b, which needs to be
[00:00:48] adopted. I don't know why it's not being adopted in the council. I was a
[00:00:52] city councilor maybe ten years ago, when that
[00:00:55] regulatory plan was in draft and the problem then was
[00:00:59] its... width which I think was proposed by the city
[00:01:02] administration at the time to be 12 m, and the profession said that
[00:01:06] it was too little, it should be, I think, at least 16 m. So
[00:01:09] with the adoption of the regulatory plan that defines that,
[00:01:13] foresees, it will be foreseen, the promenade must be foreseen, that
[00:01:17] is stated in the instructions for the preparation of that regulatory plan. So the problem
[00:01:21] was then 10, 12 years ago when the width was at the city council,
[00:01:24] so there was no question of whether there would be that promenade and the extension
[00:01:28] of Wilson's promenade towards... towards the city, it was just about
[00:01:32] whether it would be 12 or 16 or some other
[00:01:35] dimensions. So the promenade was not in question. What worries
[00:01:38] us also in Sarajevo is the water situation,
[00:01:41] we don't have, and this is one of my questions after
[00:01:45] we finish this topic about the urban
[00:01:48] plan, water protection zones are
[00:01:51] also controversial, mm is the protection
[00:01:55] of the Sarajevo field spring and protective
[00:01:58] measures around this spring, I know... what is happening due to construction on
[00:02:01] Bjelašnica and the poisoned source of the river
[00:02:04] Bosna, are they determined by this urban
[00:02:08] plan? By another document which is in the parliamentary
[00:02:12] procedure, a decision on the water protection zone
[00:02:15] uh these things are defined more precisely and I
[00:02:19] responsibly claim that this decision is far better than the existing one which
[00:02:23] does not damage it at all. So existing, how do you respond to the accusations
[00:02:26] of councilors, ecologists and local...
[00:02:30] views that the new plan indirectly opens up space for construction
[00:02:34] that we organize, appetites near water protection zones and the lungs
[00:02:37] of the city? mm so I respond, it's not
[00:02:40] true, so I cannot respond to something that is really not true. People who
[00:02:44] have not read the document, people who include
[00:02:48] Trebević in the urban plan, that's what I saw in a comment, which is not
[00:02:51] part of the urban plan, so we are talking about the urban
[00:02:54] part of the Sarajevo Canton, that is the scope
[00:02:57] of that urban plan. So a lot of things that appear
[00:03:01] on air through social networks, these are just bombastic
[00:03:05] statements from people who call themselves experts. The essence
[00:03:08] is that the profession stands behind this document, that it was unanimously adopted by the
[00:03:12] council of the urban planning institute
[00:03:16] for planning, to whom I would like to thank on this occasion. It is a big
[00:03:19] job. So none of those activists, none of those
[00:03:23] experts were calling out in 20, for example, 2011,
[00:03:26] the then government, why didn't it? Yes, I was working on that topic then. According
[00:03:30] to those same activists who have reminded every government so far
[00:03:33] about pollution, the work on a new urban plan has not started.
[00:03:36] In 2011, it should have started because it's the same as 2015. And
[00:03:40] why didn't it in 2014? Why didn't it in
[00:03:44] 2016? Activists, experts from
[00:03:48] citizen associations plan, but the government. No, no, no, the government, why didn't
[00:03:51] the government then, and we say that it took courage, that's right,
[00:03:55] it took courage and vision to start that because
[00:03:59] this construction mafia that built
[00:04:02] mastodons in Novi Sarajevo next to the emergency room,
[00:04:06] it was possible during that period of gray zone
[00:04:10] for those buildings to happen. With the adoption
[00:04:13] of the urban plan, such buildings will not exist, there will be no
[00:04:16] legalization of previous projects. So
[00:04:19] the law on legalization is coming, it will be this
[00:04:23] at the Sarajevo Canton Assembly with clear rules, over 40,000
[00:04:26] buildings in the Sarajevo Canton will be legalized, which are...
[00:04:30] illegal. That does not mean that the law on legalization will legalize everything,
[00:04:34] but it will legalize what is resolved in terms of property, what is resolved in
[00:04:37] the regulatory plan that those buildings have, or on the other hand,
[00:04:41] for example, where there are no landslides, so that law will pass and I am proud
[00:04:45] of that law, it is the first time that a law on legalization is passed. Until
[00:04:49] now we have had some decisions according to which
[00:04:52] buildings were legalized in Sarajevo Canton, this is the first time
[00:04:55] a legal solution and the last time, the tender is being completed.
[00:04:59] mm for taking ortho
[00:05:02] photos of Sarajevo Canton. The moment Sarajevo Canton
[00:05:05] is photographed, ortho photo, only those buildings will be able to be
[00:05:08] legalized under these conditions, even if they were not built according to...
[00:05:13] the law, no, no, no, so, already
[00:05:16] existing and this one that will be adopted, that is, you are preparing three laws
[00:05:20] that are in direct
[00:05:22] connection. Of course, the urban plan we are talking about is being adopted, if
[00:05:26] the assembly adopts it, the decision on
[00:05:29] legalization, that is, three decisions, decisions on legalization, decisions
[00:05:33] on the protection of drinking water sources, so the Sarajevo
[00:05:37] field, that is a prerequisite for the legalization of buildings, that the building is found
[00:05:40] on the ortho photo image. And will happen in the coming months in
[00:05:44] Sarajevo Canton, that is the first prerequisite. The second prerequisite is that property
[00:05:48] relations are resolved. The third prerequisite is that that building fits into
[00:05:51] the regulatory plan where it is located, that it is not on landslides and so on. So
[00:05:55] not all buildings will be legalized, so there are
[00:05:59] legal conditions that are foreseen that
[00:06:02] will this legalize buildings in the coming
[00:06:06] period. We could talk about this topic for hours, it is very
[00:06:09] interesting and what you
[00:06:13] told us here in this studio, we will monitor what happens
[00:06:16] in the next
[00:06:19] period.
[00:06:22] We must talk about other topics, for example about the resignation you submitted
[00:06:25] they say under public pressure and protests
[00:06:29] after the protests of citizens after the tragic
[00:06:33] traffic accident that shook all
[00:06:35] of us. How do you comment on the accusations that it was
[00:06:39] just calming the public at that moment?
[00:06:43] while in reality
[00:06:45] all those important decisions are being made in
[00:06:49] Sarajevo Canton? So, it was not any calming
[00:06:52] of the public, it was my personal act and I stand by it to this day,
[00:06:56] I called both publicly and privately
[00:06:59] and in thousands of other ways the parliamentary majority
[00:07:03] and the opposition, because the same opposition a few months ago, maybe you called
[00:07:07] your partners from the government who at that moment resented your
[00:07:10] act. That's right, so there was a series of meetings about
[00:07:14] the establishment of a new government of Sarajevo Canton, unfortunately
[00:07:17] due to various reasons, it did not happen,
[00:07:21] and here at this stage, what are
[00:07:24] the relations like, how are you bringing this mandate to an end?
[00:07:28] When we talk about the Trojka coalition, we are finishing the projects that
[00:07:31] we started, one of those projects is u5 which
[00:07:35] started much, much earlier this one. We are in good
[00:07:38] relations, so there are things, are you talking to Minister
[00:07:41] Šteta. Currently, so I talk to each of my ministers
[00:07:45] and every Thursday this government has its session,
[00:07:48] at least once a week, and I am really proud of the intensity
[00:07:52] of the governments we have had in this period. Things are lagging
[00:07:56] and indeed this uh we all have a professional relationship
[00:07:59] within the government. We don't agree on all
[00:08:03] things, we sometimes don't even agree within the party, let alone
[00:08:07] talking about a coalition made up of three political
[00:08:11] entities, but... In summary, the moment the mandate
[00:08:14] passes and I will be proud of the things we have done and
[00:08:18] this made available to citizens
[00:08:21] now their mandates from October 4th to decide
[00:08:25] how and what we did in the canton of Sarajevo and you
[00:08:29] are on the list but on the compensatory list
[00:08:32] why if you think you did your job well in this
[00:08:36] therefore it is a technical technical matter two lists are submitted
[00:08:40] a legal obligation.
[00:08:44] That's right, that's right, and I thank my colleagues within
[00:08:47] the party who first nominated me to be on the regular list
[00:08:51] and then also to be, does that mean that you will no longer take on an executive
[00:08:55] position? No, it doesn't mean that, it doesn't mean,
[00:08:58] mm, I have to talk about the communal image
[00:09:01] of Sarajevo, you are much criticized for the cleanliness
[00:09:04] of the city, which we must admit, is not at
[00:09:07] an enviable level. We had uncleaned
[00:09:11] snow this winter, garbage
[00:09:15] all around us and thank you for the poem we heard recently
[00:09:18] about Germans who praised the cleanliness of the city
[00:09:22] as if we don't see what's happening, and we see, uh, Mr.
[00:09:26] Vuk, a lot of garbage that is not collected
[00:09:29] regularly, a lot of uncleaned
[00:09:32] parks where children play and
[00:09:36] many problems in this segment.
[00:09:39] Uh, they say that your government did not show
[00:09:43] the ability to manage the communal enterprise Rad. How do you
[00:09:46] assess it? I am generally dissatisfied
[00:09:49] with the communal situation in Sarajevo regarding
[00:09:53] waste collection. Unfortunately, several reasons
[00:09:56] contributed to this, namely the lack of continuity in that sector. We
[00:10:00] have had, I think, four or five ministers in that sector in the past five or six
[00:10:04] years. Where there is no continuity,
[00:10:07] there are no
[00:10:10] visible results in that regard. mm On the one hand, on
[00:10:13] the other hand, these are neglected enterprises and I think
[00:10:17] that this will require a lot of time, energy
[00:10:21] and a lot of money that we, for example, due to
[00:10:24] due to. the infamous ponder, we could not, if I am not mistaken, you had the director of that
[00:10:28] enterprise, the director to be precise, until
[00:10:31] 2021 or 22, I am not sure.
[00:10:35] This, therefore, will require a lot of money, a lot of energy. What could
[00:10:38] have been done and was not, for example, during her mandate? Uh, so that the situation
[00:10:42] improves, could vehicles have been
[00:10:44] procured? No, so for waste removal, a lot of large-scale
[00:10:48] excavation was done for removing,
[00:10:51] for example, cattle that die in areas
[00:10:55] around... Sarajevo, for example,
[00:10:58] one of the problems I heard from workers, or rather
[00:11:01] drivers of the communal enterprise, is that they do not have adequate
[00:11:05] vehicles for that, for remedying such damage that
[00:11:08] occurs. So it's a completely different way of removing dead
[00:11:11] cattle. The communal enterprise Rad does that, there are other procedures,
[00:11:15] legal veterinary stations, in what way
[00:11:19] would it be dangerous for the communal enterprise to have, I don't know,
[00:11:22] what kind of conditions.
[00:11:29] To return to the topic, so I am not satisfied with the communal cleanliness. That is
[00:11:33] the next task of the new Sarajevo Canton government which
[00:11:36] will have to invest money, a lot of money and a lot
[00:11:40] of mm time, energy to
[00:11:43] raise that segment. We recognized this as our party, so in, I don't know,
[00:11:47] in the election materials of our party, you will see that that
[00:11:50] segment is heavily underlined where
[00:11:53] we show not dissatisfaction, we show in which direction the next
[00:11:57] four years the government should work, to buy appropriate
[00:12:01] machinery, to renew the human factor so that
[00:12:05] in that way the citizens of Sarajevo Canton
[00:12:08] uh raise their satisfaction regarding
[00:12:12] the cleanliness of the city. Parallel to that, the communal police will be
[00:12:15] mm raised, so we have adopted it, so these are
[00:12:19] parallel processes that will have to happen in the coming
[00:12:23] period. All segments could not be equally this one, we don't have
[00:12:27] much time left, we have many important topics left. In ViK it
[00:12:31] seems the situation is not better. You say huge
[00:12:33] sums of money are needed, a huge loan
[00:12:36] was taken from the EBRD to
[00:12:40] repair what can be repaired, replace what urgently
[00:12:43] needs to be replaced, but the citizens of Sarajevo, we are witnesses,
[00:12:47] don't have water at night,
[00:12:49] again reductions. How do you explain that? So a huge loan
[00:12:53] was taken, 50 million convertible marks was taken, but I
[00:12:57] think that is only one tenth of the money that needs to be invested in the next
[00:13:00] ten years in the water supply network of Sarajevo Canton. Some
[00:13:04] pipes should have been replaced before the war, so the lifespan of some
[00:13:07] pipes in our network should have
[00:13:10] been replaced before the war, and we are talking today
[00:13:14] 30 years after the war. So that 50 million
[00:13:17] is one tenth of the amount that needs to be invested in the coming period.
[00:13:21] mm They work as much as they can, so...
[00:13:25] "in 2026 that is, they had
[00:13:28] 1700 repairs, for example, last year it
[00:13:32] was about 100, so they are increasing their capacities, work
[00:13:36] is being done on that, and this one. As for water rationing, really
[00:13:40] the drought is incredible, it's not just in Sarajevo, it's happening in
[00:13:44] all of Europe. I am, I am surprised with
[00:13:48] this bad water supply and sewerage infrastructure
[00:13:51] that we have, where we have a huge percentage
[00:13:55] of water leaking from the system itself. Are we buying water from Jahorina
[00:13:58] stream? Uh, we have
[00:14:02] yes, we have a contract with, that is one of the ways in which the city
[00:14:05] of Sarajevo, why don't we buy enough then to have water all
[00:14:09] day in 20, well, because they don't have, so the problem
[00:14:12] of water supply is not a problem of Sarajevo Canton and Jahorina, but a problem of Bosnia and
[00:14:16] Herzegovina, Croatia, Greece, the whole, whole, whole
[00:14:19] of Europe, because there is no precipitation. So the
[00:14:23] moment, that is one, I am surprised how we have water now considering
[00:14:27] what kind of system we live in where over
[00:14:30] 60% of water is lost, but these are not all excuses, so people
[00:14:34] are working in the field, this one. I am in daily communication with
[00:14:38] the management of water supply and sewerage and I want all the things that are
[00:14:41] happening, repairs and reductions, to be faster.
[00:14:45] Unfortunately, we don't have much time left, I had many more questions, but
[00:14:49] let's draw a line, very briefly, at the end of your
[00:14:52] mandate, the election campaign. The mandate was
[00:14:55] marked by protests, your resignation, several times,
[00:14:58] the communal disorder we talked about,
[00:15:02] accusations of concrete urbanization, which
[00:15:05] we also talked about in the urban plan, and these are all some
[00:15:09] negative aspects, but what do you think the citizens
[00:15:12] of Sarajevo will remember this mandate and the government of Nihad
[00:15:16] Uk? Well, you mentioned the things that are
[00:15:19] negative and you already drew a line that it was marked, it will be marked,
[00:15:23] I think, by new trams, new... and trolleybus, new tram
[00:15:26] lines, purchase of purchase of
[00:15:30] helicopters, capacitation of the police department with
[00:15:33] mm over 800 new police officers. 100%.
[00:15:37] million invested in infrastructure of primary and secondary
[00:15:41] education, we have subsidies for kindergartens, maternity
[00:15:45] benefits, for extended stay, free
[00:15:47] textbooks, this, so digitalization
[00:15:51] of processes, so we really have a wide beginning
[00:15:54] of the construction of the Arsena Museum, so I visited it the other day, an incredible
[00:15:58] scene how quickly they have already progressed, the construction of the university library which
[00:16:01] is expected to be opened in the coming weeks or
[00:16:05] months, the completion of the Academy of Arts.
[00:16:07] These are all projects that will remain behind this
[00:16:11] government, behind me, and truly where I will be proud
[00:16:15] on the day I finish my mandate, to walk upright in
[00:16:18] Ferhadija and Titova and all the streets of our canton,
[00:16:21] that stands for me. There were problems
[00:16:24] and there will be problems after me. So no job can be
[00:16:28] completed especially within four years of a mandate, but I will truly be
[00:16:32] proud of the things that we have done as
[00:16:35] our party, as a coalition, as... myself, we wish you
[00:16:39] good luck in your future work and thank you for your time, thank
[00:16:42] you. Next we go to a short break, and we were talking to
[00:16:46] Nihad Vuk, Prime Minister of Sarajevo Canton, about his resignation.
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