N1BOS — broadcast 20260911 083000 UTC 552 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] however you look [00:00:03] at it, none of [00:00:06] them have any contact with [00:00:10] reality, which means they are basically [00:00:13] a lie, and uh, that lie is [00:00:17] stupid, that lie is not just populist, it is [00:00:21] actually very dangerous, because it misleads [00:00:24] voters, it counts on [00:00:27] our very superficial reactions. Uh, [00:00:30] so we heard young people in the report just now, unfortunately you didn't [00:00:34] have the opportunity, but [00:00:37] what almost every young person said is that [00:00:40] they will not go to the elections [00:00:43] if there is no political offer [00:00:46] in this constellation of forces. [00:00:50] Apathy and listlessness [00:00:52] have gripped not only Bosnia and Herzegovina but [00:00:56] humanity. We are living in a [00:01:00] completely new paradigm, [00:01:02] uh, that paradigm uh, was imposed by [00:01:06] conservatism and authoritarianism [00:01:09] that is coming, and this shift to the right, yes, which comes from [00:01:13] Trump, uh, from his, I can [00:01:16] freely say, racist movement, [00:01:19] now if I may say on these media due to [00:01:22] censorship that is present on [00:01:26] the entire planet and is very pronounced. [00:01:30] "You have never been with us until now, nor will you be, we hope, [00:01:33] in a small way, but uh, we are small as [00:01:36] a language, uh, but war criminal [00:01:40] and aggressive uh politics [00:01:43] that approved genocide in Palestine, which the [00:01:47] European, which the European Union watches [00:01:51] completely calmly, that new paradigm drove people away from [00:01:54] politics, uh, the result is [00:01:58] uh fascization." for example, [00:02:00] Germany, the shift to the right in [00:02:04] France, the shift to the right in [00:02:06] Italy, and uh, of course the appearance [00:02:10] Spain is still doing well, Spain [00:02:13] is the only country that has the left in [00:02:17] power and the only country that openly speaks [00:02:20] about, in fact, about [00:02:23] genocide. You had a rebellion of a part [00:02:26] of Slovenian citizens the other day, but look, you know. [00:02:30] The rebellion in Sarajevo, what is that dark [00:02:33] space? Mm, Sarajevo was under [00:02:37] siege [00:02:39] betrayed the hope on for uh, 1400 something days, the genocide in [00:02:43] Srebrenica happened. I'll give you a paradox now, [00:02:47] the memorial center, uh, [00:02:50] Srebrenica, does not speak out about [00:02:53] the genocide in Gaza, because the leader of the memorial [00:02:57] center is a friend with the president of the World... Jewish [00:03:00] Congress, so we then keep silent about what [00:03:04] is happening to Palestinian children, [00:03:08] you know, the lives of those Palestinian children are [00:03:11] as important to me as the life of every other [00:03:13] child. Uh, furthermore, [00:03:17] you have a paradox, what stupidity we live in, [00:03:21] uh, if it weren't for Iranian aid to this country, at the beginning [00:03:25] of the war, who knows what would have happened. We [00:03:28] didn't even... uh following the recommendation of the Islamic Community, [00:03:32] we didn't study uh as a society, a hatmad to the [00:03:36] president, [00:03:38] i.e. Ayatollah Khamenei. What kind of [00:03:41] fear is that of Trump's MAGA movement and [00:03:45] his punishment? Now those young people, let's [00:03:48] go back to them, of course they are [00:03:50] listless, they are dealing [00:03:53] with political [00:03:56] oligarchies, for whom politics is a business. [00:04:01] "uh, a source of good earnings, uh, [00:04:03] a source for fixing tenders, [00:04:07] uh, for some it's banditry, [00:04:10] uh, for others it's nationalism and spreading [00:04:14] hatred, for others a way [00:04:16] to uh get their [00:04:19] families jobs, so you get that apathy which is [00:04:23] justified, but it's [00:04:26] about their lives, about the lives of these [00:04:30] young people. Do you predict a low turnout in these elections, [00:04:33] perhaps the lowest ever? I think these [00:04:37] elections, in terms of turnout, will be a disaster. Now, [00:04:41] rationally speaking, uh, [00:04:45] why is that [00:04:47] assumption possible and most likely [00:04:51] correct? Because the trio disappointed, that's [00:04:55] my next question, it refers to the past [00:04:58] mandate and to us. You mentioned politicians for whom this is a job, [00:05:02] what kind of job was done in the past mandate? [00:05:05] We are listening now to [00:05:08] praise about the reform [00:05:11] step forward, in the positive aspects of this [00:05:15] mandate, what will you remember it for, for example? [00:05:19] It's [00:05:21] a bit harder question [00:05:24] to [00:05:26] to try to sum [00:05:30] everything up in a short [00:05:31] assessment. [00:05:35] The previous government [00:05:37] of Novalić produced a revolt among citizens [00:05:40] against... SDA and [00:05:44] its uh uh its crime, [00:05:47] corruption, nepotism and so on, but you know, [00:05:51] it's not just SDA in power, this is a constitutional country, so [00:05:55] there were also the other two political parties, SNSD [00:05:59] and HDZ and a complete blockade of the federation [00:06:02] for eight years of Novalić's rule, [00:06:06] so plus the corona crisis and so [00:06:09] on. The trio which... [00:06:12] promised hope, [00:06:15] uh, killed hope in the Sarajevo canton [00:06:19] for citizens, that is a terrible [00:06:22] responsibility of irresponsible politicians, [00:06:26] like Nihad Uk, uh, who is completely [00:06:30] incompetent, semi-literate, [00:06:32] semi-educated, but very arrogant. He was our guest, [00:06:36] we tried to ask many questions this morning, also to him about [00:06:39] everything that happened in the past mandate. "But [00:06:42] here, when we look at other levels [00:06:45] of government, disappointment, it seems to me that it is [00:06:48] your assessment, [00:06:52] as far as citizens are concerned, disappointment, but my [00:06:54] assessment is worse than disappointment, [00:06:58] uh, in fact, it's about the following, you had a [00:07:02] historic chance as a trio to [00:07:05] revive the social life of Bosnia and Herzegovina and [00:07:09] you missed that historic chance." [00:07:12] Or it won't come back, I don't know, for 30 [00:07:15] years now, now if you [00:07:18] haven't understood that, and if you put people like Uk [00:07:22] or some others in positions, you have [00:07:26] missed uh a century. [00:07:30] They are not aware of the responsibility they have. Now they [00:07:33] promise us that we will live freely, but [00:07:37] what will I remember it for? For the first attempt to introduce [00:07:41] some social measures. This country, that is [00:07:44] the increase of the minimum wage [00:07:46] for workers and then you have [00:07:49] proof that the country [00:07:53] is networked, all [00:07:56] the tycoons [00:07:59] rose up with the help of fake economic [00:08:02] analysts to attack the minimal rights [00:08:05] of workers. Uh, the media were [00:08:09] naturally forced to participate in that. [00:08:12] And so on, which means that there is no [00:08:15] elemental empathy [00:08:18] in our country. Uh, then you have [00:08:21] an increase in pensions of 17%, [00:08:24] you have those benefits for mothers, which is good [00:08:28] social assistance, so you have some good [00:08:31] moves, but then it all falls before [00:08:35] the fact that in highways you have [00:08:37] some problems, that Elektroprivreda [00:08:41] uh completely... It's collapsing and [00:08:45] so on. This is a very complex [00:08:48] country uh in which Dodik can with his three delegates [00:08:52] literally lock the country [00:08:55] into some kind of mental [00:08:58] prison. Uh, the previous mandate [00:09:01] of the trio was marked by some [00:09:04] exceptional results and huge falls, that's the realistic [00:09:07] picture. Uh, SDA media are making a [00:09:11] disaster out of it. But uh what [00:09:15] I can predict now, now we will [00:09:18] set up a game [00:09:22] uh for everyone and you will see how they will [00:09:25] react. Namely, the real [00:09:28] crisis arises after [00:09:31] the elections. That is my next question. In Bosnia and [00:09:35] Herzegovina, experience somehow shows that people always voted [00:09:39] against. If that new [00:09:44] uh, i.e., old uh [00:09:46] political coalition [00:09:49] comes in the future, what do [00:09:52] you predict? Complete blockade [00:09:55] of institutions, paralysis of the system, [00:09:58] collapse or something that [00:10:01] will go in favor of citizens? [00:10:04] The fate [00:10:07] of the government after these elections [00:10:10] will be decided, as announced, [00:10:13] by Dragan Čović with the help of his ally Milorad [00:10:17] Dodik, to whom Željko Komšić, let's [00:10:21] say it openly, enabled that very [00:10:24] alliance. Uh, by his [00:10:28] irrational attitude, according to which he [00:10:31] claimed that it was important in the presidency, which does not have [00:10:35] much authority, but still appoints the council of ministers and [00:10:38] somehow, that's the only thing, but he must [00:10:41] appoint it as the parliamentary majority orders him [00:10:45] to. I'd like to see who won't appoint him as the [00:10:49] parliamentary majority orders. So, that is [00:10:53] very weak. Ambassadorial positions, weak authority, [00:10:57] but ambassadorial positions bring, political, [00:11:00] yes, patronage and so on. [00:11:03] So, uh, Čović said [00:11:06] that those who have a majority in the House [00:11:10] of Peoples will go into power. Look, [00:11:13] in 2001, we [00:11:16] uh, we were writing about how [00:11:20] the absurd consociational construct of the state [00:11:24] uh gave the most power to the Houses [00:11:27] of Peoples, since that body is invisible, and now we have [00:11:31] that these bodies are precisely called the graveyard of good [00:11:34] laws, where everything stops and disappears, that's right, that's right, that's [00:11:38] right, you can halt the state with three, with three, with three [00:11:42] representatives in power, as they say, with a [00:11:45] synecdoche, with three hands. [00:11:48] So now, if uh [00:11:52] Čović, he will surely win. [00:11:55] Three uh Croatian representatives in the House [00:11:58] of Peoples will choose the government, then there is no [00:12:01] coalition of SDA, DF, [00:12:04] then DF, especially if Čović [00:12:07] loses, i.e., if Darjana Filipović loses [00:12:11] the presidential elections, [00:12:14] uh, then DF flies out, that's why [00:12:17] last night Komšić came out with [00:12:20] a crazy proposal for a [00:12:23] concentration government. They know very [00:12:26] well, better than all of us [00:12:30] uh into what fire they [00:12:32] have pushed us. Then, uh, [00:12:36] pressure starts on [00:12:38] SDP to enter a coalition with SDA and [00:12:42] enable, it's not the first time, it's not the first time, and enable [00:12:46] a majority in the House of Representatives. [00:12:50] Uh, then comes the problem of SDP, [00:12:53] will they or won't they? What do you think, they will, [00:12:56] uh, more than half will, [00:13:00] because they want to keep their [00:13:02] positions. One [00:13:05] half that has some [00:13:08] ideological principles or something less, [00:13:11] and that is the biggest test, the party can split there, it's [00:13:15] like a wedge, if Denis [00:13:19] Bećirević is asked, he will immediately. [00:13:22] That tape recorder in the role of a candidate, and that [00:13:26] broken tape recorder in the role of a candidate for a member [00:13:30] of the presidency would very gladly, [00:13:33] now what is possible, are we then returning to old [00:13:36] patterns of governance, but look what is possible, this is [00:13:40] possible, uh that Nermin [00:13:43] Niksić's government remains in a technical mandate, [00:13:47] uh that Mr. Čović [00:13:51] blocks the federation the way it [00:13:55] was blocked in Novalić's [00:13:58] time, that [00:14:01] we then live in some [00:14:04] kind of hostage political [00:14:07] crisis, two from Mostar and [00:14:11] Laktasi, that 2:1 [00:14:15] in the presidency that Komšić talks about for Bosnia and [00:14:18] Herzegovina, has been turned into 2:1 [00:14:22] against Bosnia and Herzegovina on the political field. [00:14:26] "Now, you will never [00:14:30] hear such things from [00:14:33] politicians, either they are stupid, which [00:14:37] I doubt, I know some [00:14:39] are, or they are liars, which [00:14:43] is true, uh, manipulators, which is [00:14:47] true, thieves, which is mostly [00:14:51] true, fraudsters, mostly..." [00:14:55] true and unaware of the political [00:14:59] reality we are in, which is [00:15:01] true. When I [00:15:03] list these, that's what the mental [00:15:07] psychological appearance of our political [00:15:11] elites is like. You mentioned the circles that will certainly decide, and that's [00:15:15] how it has been for decades, who else will [00:15:17] be asked? [00:15:19] Uh, [00:15:23] a little bit of these... what they [00:15:26] call in the media political [00:15:30] small fry, but the question is if there is [00:15:33] a coalition of SDA, SDP, [00:15:37] then... "no one will be asked except [00:15:40] Serbia, uh, so, [00:15:43] uh, it is an open secret, it is very clear that [00:15:47] that party is run by Mrs. [00:15:50] Izedbegović. And look [00:15:53] now, if that government [00:15:55] comes, and there is probably [00:15:59] a great possibility that it will, at all [00:16:02] levels, both federal and cantonal, it will be difficult [00:16:05] to form, but possible. [00:16:07] "But possible, difficult, very difficult [00:16:11] to form. Woe [00:16:13] to you - Sebin's opponents, [00:16:17] uh, what do you predict for them, who [00:16:20] will they be, who will fall out? [00:16:24] You said that it is very likely that the [00:16:27] coalition we had will break up, it has, it has, it has [00:16:30] broken up, it, it is very clear by the behavior of our [00:16:34] party which stabbed SDP in the back." And [00:16:38] uh I asked the gentleman, he says no, that everything is [00:16:41] ok, well he's lying. So, I [00:16:45] wrote about it, listing those [00:16:49] examples, uh, first he [00:16:52] stabbed him in the back, he says he's on excellent terms with [00:16:56] the gentleman, no he's lying, uh, [00:16:58] so I know for sure, so, with his [00:17:02] hypocritical resignation, he stabbed [00:17:05] in the... he stabbed [00:17:09] Adnan Šteta in the back, shifting moral responsibility for [00:17:12] that tragic tram accident in [00:17:16] Sarajevo, a decent man [00:17:20] cannot do that, then [00:17:23] he cannot lie publicly, I talked about that on television, [00:17:27] I mean, I wrote articles about it, uh, Duška [00:17:30] Jurišić, well she stabbed SDP [00:17:34] in the back whenever she could, uh... [00:17:37] Sabina Ćudić, well [00:17:40] they constantly uh stabbed [00:17:43] them in the back, remember uh [00:17:46] their uh stupid [00:17:50] action to uh protest against [00:17:53] the increase of the minimum wage to a thousand marks, then [00:17:57] a proposal for it to be 800 marks, then some [00:18:00] main board and so on, what are they talking about, [00:18:03] what do you predict for that party, such a nip who. [00:18:07] a drop of almost 50%. [00:18:11] Uh, I'm looking forward to it, I must admit, [00:18:14] because they which [00:18:18] we, left-oriented and [00:18:21] liberal-oriented intellectuals, worked for 20 [00:18:25] years, they did not uh [00:18:28] change the social consciousness [00:18:30] of citizens, like Peđa Kojović changes the social [00:18:34] consciousness of citizens, by going to Mezar, but [00:18:37] Izetbegović, or us who wrote tons and tons [00:18:41] of texts, so, they sold our [00:18:45] work for very [00:18:48] cheap, manipulative mandates and should [00:18:52] be punished and will be punished, uh, [00:18:56] I will personally make sure that they are punished, uh, [00:18:59] you can blame me now, maybe, but [00:19:02] I can't wait for that, I really can't wait, because [00:19:06] because. that uh is uh [00:19:10] a problem uh that we now [00:19:14] have to build anew, [00:19:17] a new social hope, how will you, well, try [00:19:21] not to do what you [00:19:24] said before, but to build new [00:19:27] social energy? [00:19:30] That's the hardest job. Uh, [00:19:33] look, after someone demolishes a project for you, [00:19:38] uh, and you fall to zero, uh, [00:19:42] you need to invest double [00:19:45] the energy to regain people's trust in [00:19:48] that project. Uh, as for [00:19:52] me personally, uh, I will [00:19:56] even in death oppose nationalism, [00:20:00] but uh, let these [00:20:03] hucksters who use our work to build their [00:20:06] political careers not think that it will be that [00:20:10] easy. This election campaign [00:20:14] shows that they [00:20:17] have no plan. Just look at [00:20:20] Sarajevo, just Sarajevo, [00:20:23] and the fact that [00:20:26] you haven't built, for example, a park in [00:20:30] Betanija so that children can [00:20:34] play in that park when these great, awful [00:20:37] heats come, that you haven't planted [00:20:41] a hundred or two hundred trees there, [00:20:45] speaks volumes uh, [00:20:47] about how much of a lack of vision [00:20:51] there is, and what kind of fight against climate [00:20:54] change is that? That you haven't [00:20:58] built a park there [00:21:01] behind that monstrosity that is called [00:21:03] SCC, but a parking lot, [00:21:07] uh, that says that for 20 years in this city [00:21:10] no one has thought about what hell [00:21:13] is coming and they ignored climate change, you destroyed [00:21:16] the wind rose. [00:21:20] Uh, you have uh, the fact [00:21:23] that they committed ecocide on [00:21:26] Bjelašnica, uh, now I'm [00:21:30] saying, uh, uh, that these people don't know how to think two [00:21:33] hours ahead let alone 20 [00:21:37] years, these elections show that they [00:21:41] don't know that, uh, that it's [00:21:44] an absence of any possible strategy. [00:21:47] Yes, we must also comment on another event that [00:21:51] certainly marked this week, but this [00:21:54] year, that is the funeral of the war criminal, [00:21:58] Mladić. How would you rate, for example, the move of the Minister [00:22:02] of Foreign Affairs [00:22:05] uh in this [00:22:07] situation? [00:22:12] Uh, it is important for me to mention [00:22:15] one thing, at the funeral of Ratko [00:22:19] Mladić. "Uh, Mr. [00:22:22] Porfirije, if that phenomenon can [00:22:26] be called a gentleman, uh, played [00:22:30] the most dishonorable ideological [00:22:32] role and metaphysical god, [00:22:36] I wrote that, turned into [00:22:39] political, i.e., by the [00:22:42] sacralization of Mladić's war criminal [00:22:45] hero. Many praised him upon arrival, [00:22:49] he was a rocker, then he [00:22:52] suddenly showed himself [00:22:54] as an agent, [00:22:58] a religious agent of war criminals. Well, [00:23:00] look now, [00:23:04] uh, what Konaković [00:23:08] is doing, that's fine, but he [00:23:12] does it uh in a way [00:23:15] that he presents it as some [00:23:19] kind of patriotism. [00:23:22] Uh, that's your moral obligation, [00:23:25] so, you can't [00:23:26] even cooperate with such [00:23:30] people, and what I would do in his place [00:23:34] would be to break diplomatic relations, let's be [00:23:37] clear. So, a radical [00:23:41] move is being made there. What failed, [00:23:44] semi-literate, semi-educated [00:23:47] bureaucratic elites in Europe [00:23:50] are doing is turning a blind eye [00:23:53] while AFD-like fascism creeps up on [00:23:57] them from behind. So, [00:24:00] uh for that Konaković [00:24:04] move, I would say the rating [00:24:07] from one to five is a one plus, [00:24:10] but for uh the way that [00:24:14] uh we perceive [00:24:18] as a society uh... that [00:24:21] scandalous act of the funeral [00:24:24] of the genocidal [00:24:25] Mladić, uh, it bothers [00:24:29] me quite a bit. Namely, why, uh, [00:24:33] because uh, there you need [00:24:36] to be intellectually and ethically superior [00:24:39] and show that kind of [00:24:43] victory, uh, namely, the greatest [00:24:47] possible defeat ideologically, [00:24:50] ethnically, culturally, [00:24:52] humanly happened uh with Porfirije [00:24:56] and the sacralization [00:24:59] of Mladić from a state leader into [00:25:02] a hero. There is no greater defeat. The [00:25:05] civilized world watches this, we saw it in the reactions which [00:25:09] are not exactly what we expected, especially from the European [00:25:12] Union. Somehow eyes are turned to the international community [00:25:16] when we find ourselves in trouble, always. [00:25:20] What do you expect from them in [00:25:24] the current state of forces that we have about the shift to the right that we [00:25:27] explained everything that is happening in [00:25:30] the world from Ursula von der Leyen, Marta [00:25:34] Kos and similar phenomena, [00:25:37] nothing. Uh, namely, what is it about [00:25:40] here? Uh, Europe, abandoned [00:25:43] by the Trump administration, [00:25:47] cannot find its way, and... and [00:25:50] it doesn't know what to do with the internal crisis and what [00:25:54] to do with the global crisis. [00:25:57] It's a semi-educated bureaucracy [00:26:01] uh which uh... which is more concerned with the length, [00:26:04] metaphorically speaking, of a cucumber in [00:26:06] Spain, [00:26:09] than anything else. They brought us to the point where [00:26:12] we think about those standards, [00:26:15] not about ideologically important [00:26:18] things, as Marine once said, [00:26:21] how to think, how to think Europe. [00:26:25] Now that Europe [00:26:28] has treated Bosnia and Herzegovina for 30 years [00:26:31] as... a centralized unitary state, [00:26:35] setting impossible tasks for it, that means it didn't [00:26:39] understand it, and how will it understand it when [00:26:43] it thinks only bureaucratically? [00:26:46] Uh Europe uh on [00:26:49] the other hand is uh completely [00:26:53] permeated with Russophobia and [00:26:55] Sinophobia. Uh, the Chinese [00:26:59] uh uh are [00:27:03] destroying them in every possible way in the economic [00:27:06] field, uh, and from that [00:27:09] Europe, I expect nothing [00:27:12] significant. From the United States [00:27:14] uh, I expect nothing significant. That's [00:27:18] a conservative mercantile [00:27:21] policy. Now there's a great book, [00:27:25] an excellent book, I recommend it to our [00:27:28] readers, it's called "The Great Transformation". [00:27:33] "Uh, Branko Milanović wrote it, and [00:27:36] he shows an American, so that [00:27:40] it wouldn't be a Serbian economist [00:27:43] of world renown, uh, so [00:27:47] it shows how the future [00:27:50] of the world will be marked by the clash of two [00:27:53] hegemons, China and the USA, and [00:27:57] uh, he says, that, uh, this [00:28:01] is the end of..." neoliberalism as an economic [00:28:04] doctrine, we published on the portal [00:28:08] Prometej uh [00:28:11] one and we are publishing it in series uh one [00:28:15] brilliant text about [00:28:17] Turkish economic [00:28:19] Nobel laureate, if that's how it's [00:28:23] read, uh, who uh [00:28:26] uh put forward the thesis that [00:28:30] neoliberalism itself... produces [00:28:34] authoritarianism, conservatism, nationalism, [00:28:37] racism [00:28:40] and - now the serious question is [00:28:44] what is the future [00:28:46] uh of what we call [00:28:49] liberal democracy, we'll leave that, of course, [00:28:53] for your future appearances, because unfortunately I don't have time, we are at the [00:28:56] end of the show, I wouldn't want to end on this [00:29:00] pessimistic note, can you kr'. Just in one sentence, some [00:29:03] more optimistic scenarios for the citizens of Bosnia and [00:29:07] Herzegovina or [00:29:09] advice [00:29:11] uh I can [00:29:13] of course uh this is [00:29:17] your country your money [00:29:20] that is your money of course [00:29:24] these are your laws and your [00:29:26] rights and don't [00:29:30] let uh them... take them away like [00:29:34] this, rebel against [00:29:37] everything, rebel, even [00:29:40] when you are not right, [00:29:43] rebellion is the only characteristic [00:29:47] of humanity, uh, I [00:29:50] work at the faculty, [00:29:54] the Faculty of Philosophy in Sarajevo, which did not rebel [00:29:57] when uh certain deans evaded [00:30:01] taxes. Now that uh [00:30:04] they are watching uh how they have to return that tax, [00:30:08] they are paying the price of the absence of rebellion, uh, [00:30:11] rebel in the name of the future, so that is the only [00:30:15] hope, take your destiny into [00:30:18] your own hands. Thank you very much and the right message to end this [00:30:22] morning program, thank you for your time, with us in [00:30:25] the past minutes was Professor Enver Kazaz, and this is also [00:30:29] the last content in the morning program, stay with the program. [00:30:33] N1, a pleasant [00:30:34] rest [00:30:40] of the day, [00:30:55] I am Majila Šabanović, you are watching [00:30:57] N1.