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[00:00:00] lists, fake identities, media control,
[00:00:03] spying on the opposition and students, and as
[00:00:07] he says, Vučić is taking over the modus
[00:00:10] operandi from Putin and thereby transitioning from the position
[00:00:13] of president to the position of prime minister. Dilson is
[00:00:16] a Republican, which means that he is opposed
[00:00:19] to the policy of the Republican executive branch, which
[00:00:23] began a strategic dialogue with Serbia. He believes that the
[00:00:27] promises Serbia gives to America are empty because, at the same time,
[00:00:30] it is developing relations with Russia and China, and that
[00:00:33] one should look at what Vučić is doing, not what
[00:00:37] he promises. We also heard Congressman Pete Sessions, he is a Republican from
[00:00:40] Texas who explained why America is interested in the elections
[00:00:43] in Serbia, ultimately because America needs an ally in the Balkans
[00:00:47] that is Western-oriented and democratically
[00:00:50] organized. We also heard three panelists from the non-governmental sector, Ivana Stradner,
[00:00:54] Reuf Bajrović, and American expert Luke Coffe, who spoke about Serbia and the region
[00:00:58] uglova govorili o Srbiji region.
[00:01:00] The main topic was the influence of Russia and China, because
[00:01:04] remember, this is the American Congress, that is what interests people the most.
[00:01:08] What we did not hear, Maja, is the stance of the Embassy
[00:01:11] of Serbia. Jo Wilson said that the embassy was invited to
[00:01:14] participate in this briefing, but that the invitation was declined. I asked them why
[00:01:18] they declined the invitation, and I received the answer that
[00:01:21] Ambassador Šutanovac accepted the invitation, but that, as
[00:01:25] he says, such a discussion requires the participation
[00:01:28] of various actors, including the State Department, and that it
[00:01:32] should not be based on the views of individuals who, as he says, are conducting
[00:01:36] a negative campaign against Serbia.
[00:01:39] Now, Jovana, the situation in Serbia was also a topic in previous days in
[00:01:43] Congress. How do you feel about that
[00:01:45] interest?
[00:01:48] Indeed, Maja, there is great interest in the last, let's say, month. There was
[00:01:51] almost no talk about Serbia at all, except for what we saw, of course, from the official
[00:01:55] strategic dialogue. Yesterday there was that hearing in Congress
[00:01:59] where the President of the State Department came to inform congressmen about American policy on
[00:02:03] the Western Balkans, and that hearing unexpectedly turned into
[00:02:06] questions about Serbia and Milorad Dodik. Congressmen were
[00:02:10] interested in the purchase of Chinese weapons, why it is not further in
[00:02:13] Russian ownership, the funeral of Ratko Mladić, and elections. We heard
[00:02:17] from the State Department that they are carefully following the preparations for the elections, and that is
[00:02:21] just a continuation of what Congressman Jo Wilson started, to go back to
[00:02:24] the beginning of the story when he proposed this law on
[00:02:28] Serbia at the end of August. That law is now in the congressional committee. One should not expect it to be
[00:02:31] adopted very quickly, but they say it is significant that it has the support of Democrats and
[00:02:35] Republicans, so in any case it seems
[00:02:38] that, although congressmen may not speak about it,
[00:02:42] they are very well informed about everything that is happening in our country.
[00:02:45] Maja, thank you, Jovana, Jovana Đurović, reported
[00:02:49] from Washington and something where we
[00:02:52] are not the topic, Ursula von der Leyen stated today that
[00:02:56] the European Union is opening its doors to Canada to
[00:02:59] become its first associated member. She
[00:03:02] stated this during her address on the State of the European Union before
[00:03:06] the European Parliament in Strasbourg. After mentioning
[00:03:08] Canada's associate membership, Ursula von der Leyen approached
[00:03:12] the Canadian Prime Minister, hugged him, and those present in
[00:03:16] the hall gave him a standing
[00:03:18] ovation.
[00:03:22] We will move from a comprehensive economic and trade agreement
[00:03:28] Wilson doesn't mince words, at to an Alliance for the Future, in order to create a common space of prosperity and economic
[00:03:32] security. We will cooperate on intelligent production,
[00:03:36] we will create a technological alliance, we will integrate
[00:03:39] defense industrial bases. We will make
[00:03:42] the Arctic a leading joint project, we will work together on
[00:03:45] energy, critical minerals, batteries, as well as artificial
[00:03:49] intelligence, quantum technologies, cyber and economic
[00:05:52] Dear viewers, good day, I am Borna Šmer, you are following the daily
[00:05:56] overview, here are the news we
[00:05:58] highlight:
[00:06:04] Europe must reduce energy dependence and invest more in
[00:06:07] its own sources, Ursula von der Leyen said in her State
[00:06:11] of the Union address. The glorification of war criminal Ratko
[00:06:15] Mladić, reactions are piling up, we are live in
[00:06:18] Strasbourg.
[00:06:24] Reactions are pouring in even a day after the prime minister called the MP
[00:06:28] a "mousy." Ivana Kekin said, "The 'mousies' will
[00:06:32] bring down Plenković from power." For the opposition,
[00:06:34] sexism, and for the ruling party, such communication is part
[00:06:38] of political folklore.
[00:06:44] Former Kosovo President Hashim Thaçi has been sentenced to
[00:06:47] 25 years in prison for war crimes. Three former leaders
[00:06:51] of the Kosovo Liberation Army
[00:06:54] were also found guilty. We are live in The Hague in
[00:06:56] Kosovo.
[00:07:27] "The state of our union is better than ever before, but
[00:07:30] more uncertain than ever," said European Commission President
[00:07:34] Ursula von der Leyen in her annual
[00:07:36] State of the Union address. She addressed the issue of
[00:07:40] energy security, "Europe cannot remain
[00:07:42] an industrial power if energy prices are permanently
[00:07:46] too high," said the Commission President.
[00:07:49] After the disruption of Russian gas supply, a new blow was the
[00:07:53] closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which again showed how much
[00:07:56] the European Union pays for its dependence on imported fossil
[00:08:00] fuels. Brussels sees the solution in a stronger reliance on
[00:08:04] its own sources of clean energy and accelerated
[00:08:07] electrification of
[00:08:08] Europe.
[00:08:13] Since the beginning of the conflict
[00:08:14] in
[00:08:17] the Strait of Hormuz, imported fossil fuels have
[00:08:20] cost us an additional 90 billion euros, and we haven't
[00:08:24] gotten a single drop more of energy for it. That's why
[00:08:27] we must increase the production of our affordable
[00:08:30] domestic and clean energy, whether it's
[00:08:34] biomethane, nuclear energy, renewable sources, or otherwise. It needs to
[00:08:38] be technologically neutral, but all these different energy
[00:08:41] sources... must achieve lower energy prices and increase
[00:08:45] our independence. To achieve that independence, we must electrify
[00:08:49] Europe. Our goal is to double electricity
[00:08:52] production by 2040.
[00:08:56] Ursula von der Leyen said that Brussels
[00:09:00] wants to elevate relations with Ottawa to the highest possible
[00:09:03] level and, as she said, urgently
[00:09:06] redefine them. She sees Canada, which shares European
[00:09:09] values, as a key partner in the creation of new
[00:09:13] global
[00:09:14] alliances.
[00:09:17] Our partnership is not aimed against anyone, but
[00:09:21] strives for strength through unity. We want to maximize
[00:09:25] our relationship with Canada.
[00:09:27] ojačati.
[00:09:31] Dear Mark, I said that we urgently need to redefine
[00:09:34] our partnership.
[00:09:37] That's why I would like us to open the door
[00:09:40] for Canada to become the first associated
[00:09:44] member of the European Union.
[00:09:56] In her State of the Union address, Ursula von der Leyen announced a series of new
[00:10:00] initiatives, from strengthening European defense and a new
[00:10:03] security architecture to stricter rules for migration and
[00:10:06] social networks. We are now going live to
[00:10:10] Strasbourg where our Maja
[00:10:12] Štrbac is located. Maja, what kind of reactions have we
[00:10:16] heard to the President of the Commission's speech and what caused the most
[00:10:20] stir.
[00:10:24] Well, Boran, one could say that the reactions really
[00:10:27] stirred things up, despite the fact that rhetorically
[00:10:30] everything has actually changed quite a bit from
[00:10:33] last year's speech. European Commission President Ursula
[00:10:37] von der Leyen really took note of
[00:10:40] last year's comments in which the biggest
[00:10:43] echo was that she focused too much on foreign
[00:10:47] policy relations and not on internal cohesion,
[00:10:50] as she did this year on
[00:10:53] trade relations between member states
[00:10:56] and strengthening defense readiness. So,
[00:11:00] among other things, it was heard that there were
[00:11:03] many words, few solutions, that she tried
[00:11:06] to please everyone. The opposition criticized
[00:11:09] that no concrete measures were offered for
[00:11:13] solving the problem of affordable
[00:11:15] housing. Here, there was a lot of talk about
[00:11:19] relations with America, and no concrete
[00:11:22] measure was mentioned for the trade war with
[00:11:26] the US. In fact, we can point out that
[00:11:29] Donald Trump was not mentioned by name
[00:11:33] once in Ursula von der Leyen's entire speech. And Mark Carney,
[00:11:37] the Canadian Prime Minister, was also present.
[00:11:39] A really big decision was made,
[00:11:43] a big, big change in the European Union was announced,
[00:11:46] which is
[00:11:49] Canada joining the European Union. Of course, this had a big
[00:11:53] impact and many big reactions. We will, of course, talk about all of this
[00:11:57] as much as we can today with
[00:11:59] MEP Nikolina
[00:12:02] Brnjac. Welcome to the program. Good day to you and your
[00:12:05] viewers. We just heard a small contribution, there were so many
[00:12:09] reactions to Ursula von der Leyen's
[00:12:12] speech today. What are your reactions,
[00:12:16] how do you receive these comments that we just heard in brief? Well, I think she was extremely
[00:12:19] concrete on certain things,
[00:12:23] primarily regarding the competitiveness of our economy, the European
[00:12:26] economy, and the goal is that we must have a ready budget
[00:12:30] for the European Union by the end of the year, considering that we know that there will be elections in numerous member states
[00:12:34] next year, and whether it is the most important document for the next
[00:12:37] seven years for Croatia and for all of Europe, that is, the European
[00:12:41] Union, it is precisely this competitiveness, the competitiveness fund
[00:12:44] which makes up one fifth of
[00:12:48] the entire fund. We see
[00:12:51] a great opportunity here for Croatia, precisely for our companies, for our entrepreneurs.
[00:13:03] She also spoke and placed great emphasis on energy
[00:13:06] independence, which is crucial, because if we know that today Europe imports
[00:13:10] about 96% of oil, 90% of gas, about
[00:13:13] 60% of coal, then we cannot talk about any
[00:13:17] independence. We know that it is crucial for us to have
[00:13:20] an independent, developed, and competitive economy, but of course also how important
[00:13:24] it is for our city. Therefore, what she also spoke about today
[00:13:27] is that we must invest in renewable energy sources, that is, both solar
[00:13:31] and nuclear energy, hydropower, that is, various
[00:13:34] forms of energy, she also put that as an important sign, also
[00:13:38] she clearly set the goal for
[00:13:41] climate change, we saw what happened, what happened this
[00:13:45] summer, what those droughts were like, what those fires were like, terrible fires
[00:13:49] in the mouse, brothers, so, but all over
[00:13:52] Europe, precisely because of that... "European
[00:13:55] coordination is necessary, a budget that will follow such
[00:13:59] situations and enable us to have additional funds, coordination
[00:14:03] between fire services, civil protection services, that is, all involved
[00:14:07] in the series, but what particularly pleased me is what she emphasized
[00:14:10] now, what is important for our young people. If we know that
[00:14:14] every seventh child in Europe has
[00:14:17] mental health problems, then what she announced now, that
[00:14:21] all member states must also have a unified approach and..."
[00:14:25] she now announced the adoption of a new law for children who are
[00:14:28] younger than 13 years old will not have access to digital networks, and from
[00:14:32] 13 to 15 years old children will only have access with parental
[00:14:35] control. I think that is crucial, that we must lead
[00:14:39] in such a way and take care of our children,
[00:14:42] because what is happening now is really
[00:14:46] concerning, we saw that Australia has also changed it, so she herself said that she took it as
[00:14:50] an example from some other country how they started to deal with this problem
[00:14:53] and I think it is... a very, very good direction for all member
[00:14:57] states, this is an extremely important topic, we have to go back
[00:15:00] a little, you said yourself that an independent and competitive
[00:15:04] economy was one of the priorities of the President
[00:15:07] of the European Commission. We are still dependent
[00:15:11] partially on the US and currently with this
[00:15:14] move that was made today, the accession
[00:15:17] of Canada to the European Union, our much
[00:15:21] closer cooperation in whatever form it will be implemented, we will find out tomorrow at
[00:15:25] 11:30 when it will also be presented in
[00:15:28] Parliament, of course, so we don't know everything yet, but can
[00:15:32] this have any negative repercussions then on our relations with
[00:15:35] the US, because we know how erratic Trump is. Today he was not
[00:15:37] mentioned, one of your fellow MEPs commented
[00:15:41] that it was actually a smart move by Ursula von der Leyen not to
[00:15:45] mention Donald Trump because after last year's speech
[00:15:48] and several repeated mentions and
[00:15:51] call-outs of Trump, the reaction was extremely
[00:15:55] unpredictable, let's politely call it that.
[00:15:58] Well, look, first we have to clarify, it's about Canada
[00:16:02] becoming an associated member, meaning that the direction is towards
[00:16:06] that, but it won't automatically become an associated member
[00:16:09] or an integral part of the European Union
[00:16:13] member states. So, an associated member, we now have, based on our
[00:16:16] economic agreement, as the President also mentioned, about
[00:16:20] a 75% increase in economic exchange
[00:16:22] between Europe and Canada. What connects
[00:16:26] us with Canada is precisely that we share the same
[00:16:29] values, from the use of artificial
[00:16:32] intelligence, that it must be intelligently used, that we know what
[00:16:36] artificial intelligence is for, but that people must control how
[00:16:40] artificial intelligence will develop, we see what is happening in other
[00:16:43] parts of the world and that we must be smart, meaning no, we are not
[00:16:47] against, but with control, so that artificial intelligence
[00:16:51] serves us in hospitals, in the economy, so in all
[00:16:54] various systems where we use it, but that
[00:16:57] the human has the final say, you understand. Also,
[00:17:01] related to climate change, we share the same values as
[00:17:05] Canada, which is why I think it's very... Good that today
[00:17:08] there was discussion about the accession, the possibility
[00:17:11] of Canada's accession. We see that this is very positive and that
[00:17:15] everyone, I haven't seen anyone in the European Parliament today who said
[00:17:18] that it's not good or that it's going in the wrong direction, mhm,
[00:17:22] was this discussed with partners? After all, today's
[00:17:26] media reports said that no one knew anything,
[00:17:30] the only ones who knew didn't fully
[00:17:33] consult, so what was the background story? Well, I think
[00:17:37] it's... "I mean, it could have been assumed that this would be the
[00:17:40] direction, because according to previous negotiations,
[00:17:43] discussions, and everything that is happening, as I said, we share
[00:17:47] the same European values, so it could have already been somehow
[00:17:50] foreseen and guessed that it would go in this direction."
[00:17:54] we must also touch upon measures for
[00:17:58] affordable housing. Last week, the
[00:18:01] Affordable Housing Act came out, it wasn't really emphasized
[00:18:04] today, we are aware that prices in some
[00:18:07] countries within the European Union are really going
[00:18:11] exceptionally high and are not stopping with growth, so therefore,
[00:18:14] I believe that what the President mentioned now is
[00:18:18] not enough and we see, especially regarding
[00:18:20] the supply of housing on the market, analyses show that
[00:18:24] we are missing 10 million housing units, so
[00:18:28] I really expected a stronger, stronger
[00:18:31] proposal and legislative acts from the Commission itself
[00:18:35] precisely in the direction of member states. So last week
[00:18:38] the Affordable Housing Act or
[00:18:41] regulation for affordable housing was presented, which is a proposal
[00:18:45] from the Commission that goes in two directions, or two
[00:18:48] measures: first, it will be possible, as their proposal, to calculate
[00:18:52] which areas are housing stress areas where
[00:18:56] we have a problem with affordable housing. Their methodology
[00:18:59] for calculation is still divided into two measures: one measure is
[00:19:02] short-term rental restrictions, which we already have in Croatia,
[00:19:06] and it is stated under
[00:19:08] that regulation that member states that already
[00:19:11] collect data, as we do through our tourism law,
[00:19:15] can already use that to see on an evidence-based
[00:19:18] policy whether there is a need at all to restrict somewhere
[00:19:22] and through management plans mayors can make decisions
[00:19:25] as they already do in our country, for example, Poreč
[00:19:29] and Makarska have done so, I think, and many other cities
[00:19:32] are moving in that direction. The other thing they proposed
[00:19:36] is that if you buy a second
[00:19:39] property now, for example, you cannot buy
[00:19:42] it if that property is not for your own residence or
[00:19:46] goes into long-term rental, which I think is a very bad message that is being
[00:19:49] sent. In that way, it enters
[00:19:52] into the right of ownership,
[00:19:55] it enters into what is guaranteed by the Constitution
[00:19:58] ultimately, and by the European
[00:20:02] Charter, so I think there will be big problems with that,
[00:20:05] because as I said, the decision
[00:20:08] that if you buy a second property, you cannot buy
[00:20:11] it, by itself, if some mayor makes
[00:20:15] that decision, you cannot, you cannot because you will not
[00:20:18] be living in it. Representative Brnjac, thank you
[00:20:22] very much, this is an extremely important topic, we will certainly deal with it in
[00:20:25] the future, thank you,
[00:20:28] the session of the European Parliament is still ongoing,
[00:20:32] tomorrow we expect the address of the Canadian
[00:20:35] Prime Minister in Parliament, as we announced, we are
[00:20:39] here, we continue to follow all developments and bring you all
[00:20:42] the details.
[00:20:44] Thank you, Maja, and thank you to your
[00:20:46] guest.
[00:20:58] A lot has been said, but few concrete things,
[00:21:01] stated foreign policy analyst Mirjana Rakić,
[00:21:05] guest on our new
[00:21:07] day:
[00:21:09] a lot was used: "We
[00:21:12] need, we will, but how, in what time,
[00:21:16] what are the deadlines, new alliances are being created with?" an alliance
[00:21:20] for electricity, an alliance for artificial
[00:21:24] intelligence, the most interesting to me seems to be this
[00:21:27] European security alliance, where in a way
[00:21:31] it creates, well, like a counterbalance to
[00:21:33] NATO.
[00:21:36] Towards the end of her speech, Ursula von der Leyen referred to Serbia,
[00:21:39] more precisely to the state honors at the funeral of Ratko Mladić in
[00:21:42] Belgrade. It seems that the half-hearted condemnation did not satisfy anyone
[00:21:46] except perhaps Aleksandar Vučić, whom she again did
[00:21:50] not mention.
[00:21:53] Ursula von der Leyen only after pressure from Zagreb and Sarajevo
[00:21:57] issued a message on social media that she was horrified
[00:22:01] by the celebration of Ratko Mladić with state honors in Belgrade. In
[00:22:04] her State of the Union address, she finally and loudly
[00:22:07] stated it.
[00:22:16] Unfortunately, in essence, it does not go one step further. The only difference is.
[00:22:31] These words suffer from the same deficiency, warns the Croatian
[00:22:35] MEP. It is an ambivalent statement, I would say,
[00:22:39] that there is no place in the European Union for glorifying war
[00:22:42] criminals like Mladić. So it was not said that there is no place for Serbia
[00:22:46] or for those who glorify and support it, but that glorification itself has no place.
[00:22:49] This can now be interpreted in different
[00:22:52] ways, as Elmedin Konaković, the Minister of Foreign
[00:22:55] Affairs of BiH, already publicly criticized before,
[00:22:59] von der Leyen again decided not to mention the name behind
[00:23:02] everything, Aleksandar Vučić. No
[00:23:05] hint of sanctions against Serbia, and the European Parliament's rapporteur
[00:23:09] for Serbia proposed breaking off accession
[00:23:12] negotiations. A much more serious question is what is the European Union
[00:23:16] going to do after it has been convinced that it is a
[00:23:18] regime that glorifies war crimes?
[00:23:22] Should negotiations continue with such a government?
[00:23:25] Will some measures be introduced that will
[00:23:28] simply send a strong enough, not only political, but
[00:23:32] also financial message to the authorities in Belgrade? We didn't
[00:23:36] really hear that today from Ursula von der Leyen. It's a waste of effort if
[00:23:39] Vučić can, at such a moment, pop over to Paris and hug
[00:23:43] Macron, emphasizes another former Minister of Foreign
[00:23:47] Affairs, the idea of attracting Serbia regardless
[00:23:50] of the government. Of course, many, and perhaps even
[00:23:54] Mrs. von der Leyen, would intimately prefer to get a student list, but
[00:23:57] the goal is to win over Serbia without Vučić, if
[00:24:01] possible, and without him. Is it, but with him, but
[00:24:04] look, the question is what does the government in Serbia want? Does
[00:24:08] the government in Serbia want it that way, or does it want to continue dancing
[00:24:11] at multiple weddings? Influential American
[00:24:14] Republican Congressman Joe
[00:24:18] a Congressional hearing. He warns, "Vučić is preparing another
[00:24:21] election fix. He says the largest Serbian oil
[00:24:25] and gas company is owned by Russia. Vučić has also bought and
[00:24:28] integrated Chinese military surveillance
[00:24:31] technology."
[00:24:36] Khomeini and Tehran alongside the delegations of
[00:24:39] Russia and China. These are actions that do not show
[00:24:42] a
[00:24:48] at the same time, another award arrives for Vučić for sitting on
[00:24:52] two chairs. Aleksandar Čeferin announces: "UEFA has
[00:24:55] officially made a decision, Belgrade will host the UEFA
[00:24:59] Europa League Final in 2029. At
[00:25:02] the still unfinished National Stadium in Surčin. Ivan
[00:25:06] Hrstić, N1.
[00:25:20] Former Kosovo President and leader of the Kosovo Liberation Army
[00:25:23] Hashim Thaçi has been sentenced in The Hague to a single sentence of 25
[00:25:27] years in prison for war crimes committed
[00:25:30] during the conflict in Kosovo and northern Albania in
[00:25:33] 1998-99.
[00:25:35] Jakup Krasniqi was also sentenced to 25
[00:25:38] years. Kadri
[00:25:41] Veseli received 18, and Reçep Selimi 13 years
[00:25:44] in prison. It was determined that KLA members illegally
[00:25:47] detained at least
[00:25:50] 385 people, while at least 96 people
[00:25:54] were killed. Among the victims were there are Serbs, Roma and Kosovo
[00:25:57] Albanians. The court did not find that crimes against
[00:26:01] humanity were committed and emphasized that the procedure did not deal with
[00:26:04] the legitimacy of the KLA nor its goal of Kosovo's
[00:26:08] independence.
[00:26:12] The verdict in Thaci's case was followed in The Hague in
[00:26:16] Kosovo. We now go live to The Hague. Our reporter N1 Sanja
[00:26:19] there. Sanja, Sovrlić is waiting for us
[00:26:23] Thaci received the verdict in silence while hundreds of his
[00:26:26] supporters gathered in front of the court under strong police
[00:26:30] security. How was the verdict received there? Has the
[00:26:34] defense announced an appeal against
[00:26:35] this decision?
[00:26:39] To start with that last question, the defense,
[00:26:42] as the representative of Hashim Thaci,
[00:26:45] the former president of Kosovo, said, is shocked
[00:26:49] by this verdict. They claim that the evidence presented
[00:26:52] by the defense was not taken into account, but that only the evidence presented
[00:26:55] by the prosecution was taken into account. They announce an appeal and
[00:26:59] say that the verdict was predetermined. The chief prosecutor,
[00:27:03] on the other hand, expressed satisfaction
[00:27:06] with the verdict. You said Thaci received the verdict
[00:27:10] in silence. I would add
[00:27:13] that, uh, so Thaci and the other
[00:27:16] KLA leaders,
[00:27:19] with the presence of members of their families who were
[00:27:22] in the gallery of the courtroom of the Specialist Chambers
[00:27:26] of Kosovo, they left after that, so after
[00:27:29] the pronouncement of the verdict, they left the courtroom, but -
[00:27:32] without much comment for the
[00:27:35] media. When it comes to supporters of the so-called
[00:27:38] Kosovo Liberation Army, early this morning several
[00:27:42] dozen people gathered in front of the court, carrying
[00:27:45] Albanian flags, KLA signs and printed
[00:27:48] pictures of the four KLA leaders. However, the police very quickly
[00:27:52] moved them away from the court building and told them
[00:27:55] to leave that area, and they followed the pronouncement
[00:27:59] 2 km further away.
[00:28:02] the court until the verdict was pronounced. After that, in front of the court building,
[00:28:06] there were exclusively journalists with
[00:28:09] sporadic walks of people with KLA symbols or
[00:28:13] passing vehicles, but without large gatherings
[00:28:16] of people. However, incidents occurred a little
[00:28:19] further from the court when citizens who had
[00:28:23] gathered there protested against the conviction for
[00:28:26] war crimes of KLA leaders and clashed
[00:28:30] with the police. "It was very quickly
[00:28:34] over, and during today in The Hague, in the immediate
[00:28:38] vicinity of the court, it was mostly peaceful, but let's see what those incidents looked like.
[00:29:27] Excuse me, can, excuse me, Mr. Kunjuvca,
[00:29:30] can I get a brief comment?
[00:30:02] So, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Kosovo, Glauk
[00:30:05] Konjufca, from the Vetëvendosje Movement,
[00:30:08] attended the trial. He announced
[00:30:12] it earlier. By the way, Rexhep Selimi, one of the
[00:30:15] convicted, is from the Vetëvendosje Movement, while
[00:30:18] the other three, Veseli, Krasniqi and Thaci,
[00:30:21] are from the Democratic Party of Kosovo. In addition to the current Minister of Foreign
[00:30:25] Affairs, I could also see the former Minister of Foreign Affairs
[00:30:28] of Kosovo, Petrit Selimi, from the ranks of the Democratic
[00:30:32] uh party of Kosovo, but also some
[00:30:36] representatives of civil society from Pristina
[00:30:39] were also present. I also spoke with
[00:30:43] the director of the Humanitarian Law Fund from
[00:30:47] Belgrade, who is present here, true
[00:30:50] that a group of civil society activists
[00:30:54] from Belgrade and northern Kosovo had an organized visit
[00:30:58] uh so the specialized chambers were organized.