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[00:00:00] it happened when uh uh uh was
[00:00:04] the funeral of uh Mladic in
[00:00:06] Belgrade, where Bosnia and Herzegovina is electrified and divided
[00:00:10] to to to a madness and we also have legal regulations, we have
[00:00:14] everything up to the paradox we had
[00:00:17] during the summer period when the national team of Bosnia and Herzegovina went to
[00:00:21] the World Cup in football, that we
[00:00:23] had a, let's say, combination of hysteria
[00:00:26] and euphoria on one side and the other side, and instead of that...
[00:00:30] somehow, let's say in the end, it went unnoticed, Bosnia and
[00:00:33] Herzegovina went to the World Cup in Brazil in 2014, there
[00:00:37] were not even 10% of today's tensions, so somehow I have
[00:00:41] a feeling that technology and social networks and the internet
[00:00:44] and media that
[00:00:47] are crazy for clicks, and politicians and now we have
[00:00:51] many reality politicians on all sides, dominantly they are in
[00:00:55] Republika Srpska, let's be clear, 90% of them are there,
[00:00:58] who use every such opportunity for additional
[00:01:01] polarization, for additional showing of some, I don't know,
[00:01:04] Serbianness or anti-Bosnian
[00:01:07] sentiment, somehow we are constantly stuck, no way,
[00:01:11] I really think it's time that, regardless of who will form the government, I mean,
[00:01:15] it's not our place to judge or condemn, the people who
[00:01:19] went to the elections have that ambition to become the government,
[00:01:21] that they should set some, how should
[00:01:25] I say, agenda, what is important for the citizens, and
[00:01:29] make a list of topics. about which we will not agree, maybe never, but we
[00:01:33] certainly won't agree for the next five, 10 years, so they say, hey, let's skip
[00:01:36] these topics for two terms and
[00:01:39] then they take it upon themselves to comment on them,
[00:01:43] you know, because when they comment, many others feel the need to comment, so
[00:01:46] a chain reaction follows, so we are in a
[00:01:50] vicious circle, and in Bosnia and Herzegovina there really are
[00:01:54] many good, smart, successful people, hardworking people, on
[00:01:57] the other hand we are losing... that
[00:02:00] population that is leaving, no one is leaving anymore because of work, let's be
[00:02:04] clear, whoever wants to work in Bosnia and Herzegovina can find a job today, that was not the
[00:02:07] situation seven years ago, it was not the situation 10 years ago, but
[00:02:11] migrations have caused everyone who wants to on the labor market
[00:02:14] to do something and earn money, it's not
[00:02:17] always a dream job, but a job from which one can
[00:02:20] live. Now we have a situation where highly educated and successful
[00:02:24] people are leaving because they no longer want to live in this
[00:02:28] environment, they don't want their children to grow up in this environment, let's be
[00:02:31] clear, every week I regret not leaving
[00:02:34] here either in '91 or '92 or '96 or
[00:02:38] 2000, or even 2010.
[00:02:40] This means we no longer have time for that, because we are losing our people, our
[00:02:44] demography is the biggest problem and politicians instead of trying
[00:02:48] to, how should I say, calm it down, these everyday
[00:02:51] political situations that have nothing to do with us as
[00:02:54] ideal ground for igniting new
[00:02:58] divisions, that's not for us. So whoever forms the government
[00:03:02] should act responsibly and make a plan about
[00:03:06] what they can agree on, that okay, it's always easiest
[00:03:09] to agree on appointments of directors, ministers,
[00:03:13] ambassadors, but it should be some kind of package deal, that along
[00:03:16] with agreeing on appointments, they agree on which topics, it sounds bad,
[00:03:20] to sweep under the rug for four or eight years, but
[00:03:24] otherwise we will never get closer to the European Union and we will always
[00:03:28] go back. just as we had with
[00:03:31] the trial of Dodik when that, how should I say, from the moment
[00:03:35] everything was good, I mean there was some cooperation, I don't think they did everything
[00:03:39] ideally, and then we have two years of complete stagnation
[00:03:42] and then again with the departure of Murphy they agreed
[00:03:46] on the southern interconnection, as they say, in no time, so
[00:03:50] an agreement is possible, they just need
[00:03:53] to be responsible to the people who elected
[00:03:56] and voted for them. We'll see in
[00:04:00] October uh those test elections were held in several
[00:04:04] locations in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Does this inspire
[00:04:07] confidence in voters, what we saw,
[00:04:10] so in those test elections, were there any complaints? Well, I don't think it
[00:04:13] inspires confidence, I'm not, as I said, it's not my place to
[00:04:17] judge, but I have really been pointing out for years that I don't trust
[00:04:20] this CIK (Central Election Commission) which was questionably elected
[00:04:23] and elected through political influence
[00:04:26] of previous uh structures that were from
[00:04:30] 2018 to 2022, 2023 in power, and this CIK has never
[00:04:34] shown its ability or
[00:04:36] goodwill. We had a situation with the repeated
[00:04:40] counting of votes for Jelena Trivić in 2022, and nothing was
[00:04:43] shown, then we had again from certain polling stations when there were
[00:04:47] extraordinary elections in Republika Srpska between Karan, we have the case of Ivan Begić who
[00:04:51] was declared the winner, and
[00:04:53] we constantly have issues with CIK, and we have
[00:04:57] the case when they decide that ok, he is a delegate in
[00:05:00] the House of Peoples, like on a lottery, and the law clearly
[00:05:03] states that the National Assembly of Republika Srpska elects a delegate, so nothing is
[00:05:07] questionable, return all five delegates, and
[00:05:09] control that voting, so this
[00:05:13] incompetence and malice, they go out of the country for elections that
[00:05:17] have 50, 100 million people,
[00:05:19] voters, and on the same evening they have election results. Yes, speaking of that, an interesting situation,
[00:05:23] we have modern technologies that will be at every polling station, which should send
[00:05:27] data to the central database at 7:05, five minutes after the polling station closes, and
[00:05:31] we have a deadline of 45 days that the CIK left for itself to confirm
[00:05:35] the election results. How to explain that? Well, not at all, the CIK left it to itself,
[00:05:39] you said it yourself, it didn't leave it to them. The parliament didn't leave it to them,
[00:05:43] society didn't leave it to them, they left it to themselves, they are literally
[00:05:47] a separate entity, a state within a state for four,
[00:05:50] five years, that's how they behave. After all, these scanners won't bring
[00:05:54] us fairer elections, these scanners can complicate the
[00:05:58] situation a lot, let's be clear, I recently looked at a ballot,
[00:06:02] I have to tell you that if a former member of parliament hadn't explained it to
[00:06:05] me, I wouldn't know how to vote. I'm really
[00:06:09] skeptical, especially how less educated voters in smaller
[00:06:12] areas, where there are smaller polling stations, where, how should
[00:06:15] I say, they look at each other with suspicion, who will do what
[00:06:19] now, how, I'm not sure that this scanner will bring
[00:06:22] us fairer elections. Besides that, there are plenty of opportunities
[00:06:25] for political corruption and vote buying
[00:06:28] outside of scanners, as much as you want. After
[00:06:32] all, we now see on the candidate lists for parliament
[00:06:36] dozens of municipal and city mayors,
[00:06:39] we see people for whom we know that they will not... be
[00:06:43] members of parliament even if they get votes, because they will
[00:06:47] now use their levers of influence, because they have been in the previous two
[00:06:51] or six or 10 mayoral years, some even
[00:06:54] more, deciding about donations, about
[00:06:57] building permits, about changes to urban planning regulations,
[00:07:00] about social assistance centers, who will get help,
[00:07:04] scholarships, employment of interns,
[00:07:07] and they are now placed on
[00:07:10] lists to pull all their. influences they have in the local
[00:07:14] community, so what is that but political corruption? You've been involved in
[00:07:17] PR for a long time, how do you rate this past part of the campaign, are there innovative
[00:07:20] approaches, messages, new slogans, or is everything
[00:07:24] already seen and from us in the region,
[00:07:27] yes, uh, excuse me for interrupting earlier, I think that in Bosnia
[00:07:31] and Herzegovina we have already seen everything and this campaign has not offered us anything
[00:07:34] new, except that we see that some politicians and candidates have
[00:07:38] a lot more money than I think they should have, you know, they...
[00:07:42] appear on Viber, on WhatsApp, on
[00:07:46] portals, no voter in Bosnia and Herzegovina will change
[00:07:49] their vote because some candidate from, I don't know, the "Safe Srpska" movement
[00:07:53] from Banja Luka popped up on their Viber every time they turn on their Viber,
[00:07:57] I mean, people will vote based on, I don't know, some trust
[00:08:00] or because of someone else or because of a political party,
[00:08:04] program, ideology, whatever, but now these campaigns that are
[00:08:08] so very intense and very expensive, I have
[00:08:11] to tell you that I... "I'm not sure that they will yield results, for me it's just a question
[00:08:15] of money, the slogans are all already seen, it's interesting that on some
[00:08:18] billboards we have two or three slogans, so now when you
[00:08:21] ask me as someone who has been involved in it, a slogan cannot
[00:08:25] have two or three slogans on a billboard,
[00:08:28] and one is
[00:08:31] uh, to single someone out, maybe one campaign stood out
[00:08:34] as different so
[00:08:36] far, because these days, ever since I got the call for
[00:08:40] the show, I've been looking, now it's just..." SDA only because
[00:08:44] on their billboards so far I haven't seen people except
[00:08:48] billboards with Mr. Izetbegović on all surnames only with surnames
[00:08:51] it's interesting that it's how I would
[00:08:54] say uh the identity card of the Party of Democratic
[00:08:58] Action is someone will call it a brand, someone will
[00:09:02] call it identity, and it's very risky to play that card,
[00:09:05] however, they really mm made
[00:09:09] a commercial that I watched which was such that I watched it
[00:09:13] to the end, it was creative, interesting with some re-painting
[00:09:16] of billboards, but with the others I saw the president
[00:09:19] of the party driving around Sarajevo, that's like the model that
[00:09:23] Dodik launched ten or fifteen years ago in Republika Srpska, now everyone
[00:09:26] is copying him, so there are candidates, there is
[00:09:29] the party president and with him are candidates for deputies or for the House of Peoples or for
[00:09:33] assemblies, presidential candidates for individual
[00:09:36] functions, but for example this SDA campaign where I don't
[00:09:40] see a single face yet, I mean I'm talking. I was just in Sarajevo, but I came, I don't know,
[00:09:43] yesterday, the day before yesterday from Banja Luka, I went through Tuzla, Gradačac
[00:09:46] to Bijeljina, I crossed the whole of Bosnia, I see
[00:09:50] faces everywhere else, in the municipalities in those areas
[00:09:54] where someone comes from, that's the only thing
[00:09:57] that's different now compared to the rest, meaning that probably the SDA
[00:10:00] and Mr. Izetbegović are currently going, as they say,
[00:10:04] all or nothing, to play on that
[00:10:07] card that the SDA truly
[00:10:11] possesses, as I would say, through
[00:10:14] decades of presence in power, but the others have not shown any
[00:10:18] creativity, innovation, I also visited these stands in the center of
[00:10:22] Banja Luka, children are sitting there who don't know how to answer
[00:10:25] anything, I go from stand to stand and ask each of them, will this one
[00:10:29] give up his position, and they say
[00:10:32] no, what will happen, they say, he will be the candidate for prime minister, but these are not
[00:10:35] elections for prime minister, that will be later, the children are at the stands, they are not even
[00:10:39] 18 years old, meaning they don't even have enough people within their
[00:10:43] political parties to place them as volunteers,
[00:10:47] I watched some of these Sarajevo parties, going from
[00:10:50] door to door, and I watch these stands in the city, they
[00:10:54] stop people with leaflets, they all had enough time
[00:10:57] to introduce themselves to the citizens, I find it interesting when I see, for example, I just
[00:11:01] came from Lukavica, what is now called
[00:11:04] East Sarajevo, now I see on billboards people who were
[00:11:07] members of parliament for four years, never said a word, now
[00:11:11] they want to be members of parliament again, some people will circle them, so we will
[00:11:15] have a list, how should I say, of very
[00:11:18] stupid, illiterate people. I joked on social media and commented,
[00:11:22] the slogan would be great: "I'm silent for you and still
[00:11:25] for you," because or
[00:11:29] you have, for example, candidates who uh
[00:11:32] appear, they are present in local communities in
[00:11:35] some functions in some municipalities, but they have never
[00:11:39] spoken out about any vital problem, let alone
[00:11:42] about some situation at the national level, let's be clear, you
[00:11:46] invite me to the show once every two or three months and I say something,
[00:11:50] but they have the opportunity every day, how should I say, in their work, so now they
[00:11:54] who were silent about everything, now they want to transfer their silence from
[00:11:57] the local level. And what else is interesting, since you already touched on that topic, here
[00:12:00] we are trying, through this whole campaign, to organize debates where
[00:12:04] these candidates would confront their opinions,
[00:12:08] very rarely do these candidates who would
[00:12:11] tomorrow hold some important positions agree to even sit with someone who has
[00:12:15] a different opinion, let alone uh clash opinions, well
[00:12:18] there are two reasons, the first
[00:12:20] is
[00:12:23] most parties, I would say now... all of them went to these elections without
[00:12:26] any program, usually elections are approached with a program,
[00:12:30] we will do this, we will do that, they saw that the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina are not
[00:12:34] very interested in that program, that they will now
[00:12:37] vote either within their own, let's say, national pens,
[00:12:41] as people like to say, or within their own
[00:12:44] interest zones, but there is no program, I
[00:12:48] convince you now, ask those candidates when they come to tell you what are the key 10
[00:12:52] points of the party's program, no one will know that. "And then
[00:12:55] it suits them much better to be, how should
[00:12:58] I say, uh, in one-way communication, to only
[00:13:02] send their messages through social media, through commercials,
[00:13:06] rather than going into debates. Besides that, we now have
[00:13:08] many politically illiterate candidates, let's be clear,
[00:13:12] so we have candidates who won't even know how to list the points
[00:13:16] of the constitution or what are the competencies of the parliament or the House of Representatives, or how
[00:13:19] the Council of Ministers is elected, or what are the
[00:13:22] prerogatives of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina." and
[00:13:26] they aspire to become, how should I say, representatives,
[00:13:29] deputies, and they don't know that, I
[00:13:32] know some candidates who have been, as they say, in politics
[00:13:36] for a long time, and very few of them have that subject at their
[00:13:40] fingertips, to know the constitution, laws, regulations,
[00:13:43] competencies, so how can they come to a show so that you, how
[00:13:47] should I say, bury them with some question, bury them with a counter-candidate,
[00:13:50] because even counter-candidates don't prepare, even those
[00:13:54] who are... good, they go somehow, they are, how should I say, in
[00:13:58] the studio, everyone tries to be polite, so we don't
[00:14:00] get that someone really, as they say, buries someone,
[00:14:04] to show elementary ignorance, ignorance now exists,
[00:14:07] meaning we are unfortunately as a society in Bosnia and
[00:14:10] Herzegovina for the last eight years, that was somewhat brought
[00:14:14] by the internet and technologies and social networks,
[00:14:16] we have become uh victims, hostages
[00:14:20] of ambitious people, meaning people who want to live from politics
[00:14:23] enter politics.
[00:14:25] People who have realized their careers do not enter politics,
[00:14:29] for example, you are a famous journalist with 20, 25 years of experience or someone who is
[00:14:33] a professor, and tomorrow you are not in politics, you will do
[00:14:36] something else. Today's 80% of politicians, if they are not
[00:14:39] in parliament or the assembly, they cannot
[00:14:42] earn a salary of 1.5 marks, it's not that they don't know
[00:14:45] how to do anything, but money doesn't fall from the sky, you have to
[00:14:48] work, so we have a problem that we are completely
[00:14:51] that ambitious political...
[00:14:56] "elite, they like to perceive themselves this
[00:14:59] way, has taken over, and now they have
[00:15:02] additionally disgusted politics to all skilled, educated
[00:15:06] people who shy away from it, they shy away, why would anyone enter some
[00:15:09] political mud if they can live in your city, so our problem is that people enter politics
[00:15:13] to live off politics, instead of people
[00:15:17] who are accomplished. Of course, young people should always
[00:15:20] come, but you know, now you have young people who at 24
[00:15:24] became a member of parliament or a councilor, now they are, I don't know,
[00:15:27] 32 or 40 or
[00:15:30] 50, and their whole life has been just on the budget, nothing
[00:15:33] in our country is improving, no
[00:15:36] citizen will say, listen, this one fought for 10 points,
[00:15:40] so we are unfortunately
[00:15:42] a society that has a poor
[00:15:46] offer in elections, I say that these are elections without
[00:15:49] choice, that we don't have a choice now, we will all vote
[00:15:53] either within our own ideological framework, or against, it happens very
[00:15:56] often, and this time it won't happen, for example, in
[00:16:00] Republika Srpska the situation is specific, mm up until now
[00:16:03] people voted against Dodik, and then that could
[00:16:06] , how would I say... raise certain turnout at
[00:16:10] certain points, now that Dodik is not a candidate, there is no one
[00:16:14] to vote against Minić, you know Minić is the prime minister, such as
[00:16:17] he is, uh, a man of
[00:16:20] the party's trust and a man of Mr. Dodik's trust, and in this
[00:16:24] past year he hasn't managed to do anything spectacularly bad, except that the
[00:16:27] debt increased by one billion convertible marks, but our citizens
[00:16:31] don't think about that, our citizens don't mind that Schmidt paid
[00:16:35] 120 million for the viaduct nor that we... paid the commissioner
[00:16:38] 250 or how many million marks, citizens don't
[00:16:41] think about that, since you mentioned Minić, if he wins, do you think
[00:16:45] he will face the same fate as the current president Siniša
[00:16:49] Karan, whom after a few months, actually a few
[00:16:53] days ago, was seen at an event, people were wondering if he was even there, if he was, if
[00:16:57] he was alive? Well, uh, the question is
[00:17:00] valid, but when it comes to Mr. Karan, for whom I can
[00:17:04] say that he performed his duties as
[00:17:07] it was probably expected of him, and on the other
[00:17:11] hand, I know that he had health problems and that his
[00:17:14] public appearances were neither possible
[00:17:18] nor any speeches, I mean, how should I say, I think the sources
[00:17:21] I have are reliable, so I hope he is well and healthy now, because he is one
[00:17:25] of, how should I say, the most qualified people that SNSD had, so he didn't
[00:17:29] accidentally become a candidate because he had previously held
[00:17:32] responsible positions. As for Sava Minić, everything depends on who will be
[00:17:36] prime minister? "You know, in Republika Srpska, we are, like people in
[00:17:39] Serbia, uh, destined that wherever
[00:17:43] Dodik or Vučić holds a position, that position is
[00:17:47] important, even the position of a member of the presidency, that was never
[00:17:50] in the news in Republika Srpska what Radmanović did until Dodik
[00:17:54] came to the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, meaning
[00:17:57] now we have several options, whether SNSD will have the opportunity
[00:18:01] at all for Dodik to perform a function, whether prime ministerial
[00:18:04] or any other, I think, I think that no one can give a legal
[00:18:08] interpretation of what will happen if they try to elect
[00:18:11] him as prime minister, because he doesn't have an
[00:18:14] explicit prohibition to say he cannot be prime
[00:18:17] minister, and I think there is a lot
[00:18:20] of, how should I say, room for
[00:18:24] us not to know what kind of president Minić will be, but
[00:18:28] the role of the President of Republika Srpska has never been to be visible, it has
[00:18:32] never been to appear every day, he has some
[00:18:35] competencies that are, that are very
[00:18:39] statesmanlike, but not everyday, until
[00:18:42] Milorad Dodik came, until that, like in Serbia,
[00:18:46] you know, I saw Đuro Macut on
[00:18:49] TV the other day, the prime minister of Serbia, I realized I hadn't seen him anywhere for three months,
[00:18:53] you can't, now you're a journalist, tell me one of his
[00:18:56] statements, some of his uh
[00:18:58] project, because it's completely irrelevant where Vučić is, he is there, so
[00:19:02] now SNSD has several options, he can now
[00:19:06] if Milorad Dodik is prohibited from being prime
[00:19:09] minister, SNSD can decide to form a reformist government
[00:19:13] that will be led by one of their younger cadres or experts,
[00:19:16] they have people there, you know, people who can handle
[00:19:19] uh topics such as some constitutional constitutional
[00:19:23] issues that are important to them or they have successful
[00:19:27] managers such as, I don't know, Dr. Goran Talić in Zotović who
[00:19:31] was once a very important number one in the Banja Luka city
[00:19:33] committee as a member of parliament and everything. They have some municipal mayors like
[00:19:37] I don't know, Bojić from Laktaši or I don't know Žunić in
[00:19:40] Derventa who can tomorrow
[00:19:44] how should I say, of course, SNSD doesn't see that there is an east of Republika
[00:19:48] Srpska, SNSD doesn't know anything about it, so for them Republika Srpska
[00:19:52] ends in Zvornik, in Zvornik, in Zvornik,
[00:19:55] that's because of Zoran Stevanović and his political
[00:19:58] combinations and influence, otherwise it would
[00:20:01] end in Bijeljina, so they are not interested in anything in the east in
[00:20:04] any new staff combination that could be for the government
[00:20:07] of Republika Srpska, it's not an option that someone from the east who
[00:20:11] could be prime minister ever appears, there the key question is actually
[00:20:15] how much will the formation of the Council of Ministers
[00:20:18] leave
[00:20:20] room, I mean I'm saying all this as
[00:20:23] if SNSD is the winner, we still have a lot of time
[00:20:27] until the elections, we currently don't have any situation for which we would
[00:20:30] say that the results will be different than in 2022. That's very
[00:20:34] important to say. The last turbulence that happened in Republika
[00:20:37] Srpska
[00:20:41] with some change in the political electorate was in
[00:20:44] 2018. with the protests "Justice for David", when the
[00:20:47] opposition managed to get about 50 to... 100,000
[00:20:50] votes across Republika Srpska, dominantly in
[00:20:54] Banja Luka, currently neither the opposition nor the government have offered
[00:20:58] absolutely no new faces, none, and since you mentioned the opposition, I must
[00:21:01] ask you, as we are approaching the end of our conversation, has the
[00:21:05] opposition by coming out in two columns sealed its fate or
[00:21:08] is there still hope that one of those opposition
[00:21:12] candidates could gain an advantage in some
[00:21:16] of the... well, I don't think they are...
[00:21:20] I think they can't agree, meaning, you can't seal your
[00:21:23] fate if they don't communicate with each other, they don't want to
[00:21:26] communicate, and I think they are now both creating a
[00:21:30] better position for themselves within some
[00:21:33] opposition electorate spectrum. Even if they were
[00:21:36] together, there is so much polarization among them and such
[00:21:39] insincerity that they couldn't, for example, significantly threaten
[00:21:43] these SNSD candidates. They haven't solved the problems from
[00:21:46] 2022 with Trivić's candidacy and everything that happened
[00:21:50] around it. Luckily for SNSD, this
[00:21:53] time Serbia didn't interfere in the elections in Republika Srpska.
[00:21:56] Last time, they wholeheartedly and generously supported
[00:22:00] Jelena Trivić. In 2018, they also helped the opposition.
[00:22:03] This time, Vučić, due to the proximity of the elections in Serbia, didn't
[00:22:07] dare to create some, let's say, tension in
[00:22:10] relations with Dodik. So, in essence, uh,
[00:22:14] the opposition doesn't know how to position itself. For example, towards Bosniak and Croatian
[00:22:18] votes, meaning people will vote for uh
[00:22:22] a Bosniak for the president of Republika Srpska, now I think last
[00:22:25] time there were about
[00:22:29] I don't know, 60, 50, 60, 70,000
[00:22:31] votes, you have 20, 30,000 Croatian votes, now those
[00:22:35] 100,000 people have no one to vote for as a member of the presidency,
[00:22:38] so hypothetically we can now after
[00:22:41] all these situations consider that they are not for Dodik
[00:22:44] nor SNSD nor for Minić, but the statements
[00:22:48] of the opposition regarding all the recent events in Bosnia and Herzegovina are such
[00:22:52] that probably those Bosniaks and Croats, those 100,000 people who will come out to
[00:22:56] vote, will not give their vote to any of the opposition candidates, so
[00:22:59] the opposition is disunited among themselves, and even within these
[00:23:03] who are now a coalition, be sure that they can't even look each other in the eye,
[00:23:07] I mean, my job is such that I know a lot of things.
[00:23:10] mislim, meni je posao takav da znam dosta toga u
[00:23:14] in the sense that before I comment on that, this
[00:23:18] campaign will bring the most to Draško Stanić. Vuković, he will
[00:23:21] of course, and how do you comment on his campaign,
[00:23:25] certainly the prime minister, that slogan, what kind of prime minister, there's nothing to that, I mean, the prime minister is elected
[00:23:29] in the assembly, and even if they win overwhelmingly,
[00:23:32] he still needs votes, I don't know from the Movement for Justice and Order
[00:23:36] of Vukanović and some others that are not easy to get, but he can be
[00:23:40] prime minister, you know, Serbia can force SNSD and the opposition to
[00:23:43] agree and then Draško Stenivuković will be prime minister, that is not excluded at all, yes, that is
[00:23:47] something that was mentioned as a government of national salvation. "There is no salvation for us
[00:23:51] no, but it's not impossible, what did Stanivuković get?
[00:23:54] He got his billboards and posters for the first time in the entire Republic
[00:23:58] of Srpska, he was, how should I say, until
[00:24:01] now known and recognizable only in the Banja Luka
[00:24:05] electoral unit, beyond that since he became the president
[00:24:08] of PDP, i.e., the movement, he walked a little,
[00:24:11] now a few days ago in Šekovići, his
[00:24:14] billboards are there and he got what interests him, to increase
[00:24:18] his recognition and "now he will always have an excuse, here I was your
[00:24:22] option, you didn't want it, see how it is now, but in essence, I think
[00:24:26] that the opposition did not do a good job
[00:24:29] of selecting candidates in time, that they did not sincerely agree in time, after all,
[00:24:33] here Blanuša, who is the president of SDS, not just the presidential
[00:24:37] candidate, that's been almost a year
[00:24:40] now, did he bring any new names to SDS, that you saw him and
[00:24:44] said, look, Blanuša has brought his team or introduced to SDS
[00:24:48] some 10, 20 new experts." well, I'll invite him to the show, no, those are
[00:24:52] all now those one-man band and one-man show
[00:24:56] parties, leadership parties, especially
[00:24:59] these five, six trailers, this SNSD
[00:25:02] and there are no new people there, there is no democracy, that's why
[00:25:06] now on the lists are people who are mayors, they did not manage to
[00:25:09] find candidates for deputies, you know, so
[00:25:12] generally, I think the elections
[00:25:15] will
[00:25:18] uh show that for us... that for all of us in Bosnia and
[00:25:21] Herzegovina, in fact, that the time of these leadership
[00:25:24] parties has passed, that no one will be satisfied with the results, that
[00:25:28] everyone will fall a little, now the only question is whether certain
[00:25:32] parties will form some groups, factions, here
[00:25:35] I mean, in Sarajevo, some parties have split in the last year, even those that
[00:25:39] were part of the government, in Republika Srpska that still hasn't happened, we must not
[00:25:43] underestimate the great influence of Serbia, I mean their
[00:25:46] services that work in Bosnia and Herzegovina in various ways
[00:25:50] and that the possibility of some agreement happening is not excluded at all,
[00:25:54] although, as I said, in SNSD they have
[00:25:56] candidates for prime minister, from from Slavko
[00:25:59] Mitrović, if he is in good health. Siniša Karan,
[00:26:03] Ana Trišić, Babić, Goran Talić, Miroslav Bojić
[00:26:06] to members of the Dodik family, so they will have
[00:26:10] the least personnel problems for that position, but they will have
[00:26:14] a problem, who in Sarajevo will now want to sit with them after all this that has
[00:26:17] been happening for the last year, after numerous harsh words of insults
[00:26:21] and that's it, in politics you always have to have a certain
[00:26:24] boundary to maintain a diplomatic, how should I
[00:26:28] say, note in communication, and I think that
[00:26:31] our police in Bosnia and Herzegovina in the last five, six
[00:26:35] months have somehow created a, as we would say, a ditch and
[00:26:38] a canal that will now be
[00:26:42] difficult to cross, it will not be easy for parties from Sarajevo to
[00:26:46] sit with someone from Banja Luka after these
[00:26:48] statements that have been made in the last month or two, because then other parties from
[00:26:52] Sarajevo will tell them, "Look, they're sitting with them now," so
[00:26:56] we always talk about them and we never talk
[00:26:59] about ourselves, Bosnia and Herzegovina. It has to
[00:27:03] deal with itself. These politicians, in my opinion,
[00:27:07] should, after October 5th, sit down
[00:27:10] and start dealing with these citizens, this
[00:27:14] country, these entities, these cities, these cantons,
[00:27:17] and not for us to constantly deal with them, who will
[00:27:21] be something, who will win, who will not, are they sincere
[00:27:24] with each other, who goes to whose session for advice, who appoints
[00:27:28] ministers, you know somehow 2026.
[00:27:32] That's why I said, we need people in politics, these
[00:27:36] politicians won't really enable that, who will live off
[00:27:39] their work and when their mandate of four or eight years ends, he goes, brother,
[00:27:43] back to his company, to his job. Well, they don't have another job
[00:27:46] besides politics, and when you look at all those pictures and all those
[00:27:50] video clips that were playing while we were here, these are all people who have been in
[00:27:54] politics for 10, 12, 20,
[00:27:57] 30 years, they just changed
[00:30:30] Ukraine, from women's prison. To the front,
[00:30:34] Estonia, Euromagnetics against
[00:30:36] China, Adidas, football boots
[00:30:40] for Lionel Messi.
[00:30:52] Hello. The war in Ukraine has lasted longer
[00:30:55] than the First World War. These four and a half
[00:30:58] years have changed.