N1BOS — broadcast 20260917 070000 UTC 517 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] This information first appeared in the Wall Street Journal that [00:00:03] Ursula von der Leyen intends to offer this so-called [00:00:06] associated membership, we still don't know the total [00:00:10] scope of this. Then there was [00:00:13] a lot of discussion about why all of a sudden, uh, [00:00:17] it's being discussed and how it will affect the enlargement process and everything else. Then we heard [00:00:21] that they are considering it even when it comes to uh [00:00:24] Australia, and yesterday my colleague Amir Krivošija and I [00:00:27] joked that the European Union is almost now looking like Eurovision [00:00:31] with Israel and Australia [00:00:34] as associated members, but this can be a good thing for uh [00:00:38] Europeans, first because Canadians have [00:00:41] certain products, certain capacities that they can [00:00:45] place much better on the European market. They also [00:00:48] have a very solid defense industry, which can [00:00:51] be a good uh [00:00:54] factor for Europeans at this moment, and for Canada, this [00:00:58] can mean what I... this morning at our regional [00:01:01] opening, someone said, we are too dependent on the United [00:01:05] States, exactly that, to open a space to have something [00:01:09] more uh sources and opportunities [00:01:12] to cooperate with other people when they need their products and [00:01:16] services? In the meantime, we got that [00:01:20] answer, didn't we, from Washington regarding what is happening in [00:01:23] Strasbourg. It's not much different from everything that is actually [00:01:27] their answer lately, it's short and clear. [00:01:30] Tariffs, what else would Donald Trump do, I mean, this [00:01:34] has already become, so to speak, ridiculous, [00:01:37] because for two years now, whatever happens, he [00:01:41] says tariffs, and he thinks that those tariffs will scare someone, [00:01:44] that they will intimidate someone more, he told the Chinese [00:01:48] that they would pay, I don't know, hundreds of billions of US dollars [00:01:52] to Americans, but they didn't pay, then he threatened [00:01:55] Carney with these tariffs, then [00:01:58] Carney said, "Fine... tariffs, you want tariffs, here you go, I'll just [00:02:02] give you back your tariffs, as many as you imposed on us, we'll impose on you, [00:02:05] let's see what you'll do now." [00:02:08] the domestic public, given Then, for example, a few days ago there was a funny situation related to [00:02:12] all this. Trump, during a speech, said something like, [00:02:15] "We will ban the Canadian Bombardier from selling [00:02:19] uh its planes uh in [00:02:22] the United States," uh, [00:02:25] precisely because of that trade war, and then from a federal state that is one [00:02:29] of the key players for Republicans at [00:02:32] of Republika Srpska, and kissed the cross on this moment before the elections in November, everyone jumped up and said, "No, no, no, don't touch [00:02:35] Bombardier, don't cause us problems," because what we [00:02:39] have at this moment is about 5,000 workers who produce engines, who [00:02:43] produce parts and assemble those Bombardiers in [00:02:47] uh the United States and then just transfer them [00:02:51] - to Canada to uh be [00:02:54] completed. Also, the automotive industry is already [00:02:57] showing nervousness because of the fact that... [00:03:01] a large number of parts for car production in the United [00:03:04] States, several times [00:03:06] could read and hear at during the production of one car cross the border between Canada and [00:03:10] the United States. So what he [00:03:13] is threatening with tariffs to both Europeans and Canadians, I think it will only [00:03:17] help both of them to simply say, "Come on, let's [00:03:20] forget about them for a while until this mandate ends, then we'll see what we'll do." [00:03:24] But there are two years left until the end of the mandate, a lot can [00:03:27] happen in the next two years, there can be... great damage to the United [00:03:31] States. And this morning, just as almost [00:03:34] every morning we reflect on Donald Trump's moves, we reflect on [00:03:38] Iran, but I say this morning not on the situation [00:03:42] caused by Donald Trump's moves, but actually on the state [00:03:45] of human rights, which we often hear about from [00:03:50] property. First of all, let's the Iranian Nobel laureate Mohammadi, who again used her time outside [00:03:53] of prison to actually draw attention to the [00:03:56] suffering of prisoners. That's what we [00:04:00] found out this time, and what I have to say is that when [00:04:04] I saw this report that my colleague from [00:04:08] CNN prepared, or rather the interview with Narges Mohammadi, uh, [00:04:12] I was positively surprised and I'm glad that we see her looking relatively [00:04:16] well. We had a lot of information in the past period that her [00:04:19] condition was critical, that she was in very poor health, [00:04:23] that at one point it was even being [00:04:26] discussed whether she had died in detention or in prison. [00:04:30] Or, mm, no, mm, luckily no. Here [00:04:33] we see mm her here in this clip, [00:04:37] or rather mm a photograph from this interview. What [00:04:41] she says here is that the regime [00:04:44] implements very repressive measures against those who are in [00:04:48] prison. For example, in her case, she already has 44, 45 [00:04:51] years of imprisonment sentences. Every subsequent activity [00:04:54] leads to the addition of new [00:04:58] indictments, new years. in prison, but she says that she would never [00:05:02] change what she is doing at this moment in her life, now in [00:05:05] memoirs that are coming out very soon, we have already announced them in our program, Narges [00:05:09] Mohammadi talks about it. [00:05:12] "What happens in prisons, what kind of torture, what kind of [00:05:16] torment, mm, how executions are carried [00:05:19] out without a court judgment, without [00:05:22] the court's permission to do so, and what she did was, [00:05:26] she says, I directly mention the names [00:05:29] of those who committed it so it remains recorded that [00:05:33] someday in the future they might be held accountable before justice for what [00:05:37] they uh did. Also, in this [00:05:40] photograph, we see there..." in the background [00:05:44] Mahsa Amini, who I couldn't even believe it when my colleague Džamana [00:05:47] Karače said that four [00:05:51] years had passed since her death, it passed like that in a second, [00:05:55] that is another devastating fact, and it seems [00:05:58] to me that what is happening now in a geopolitical [00:06:02] sense with Iran, with the United States, will only [00:06:05] harm people like Narges Mohammadi even more, [00:06:09] because the regime is becoming increasingly repressive towards those who disagree [00:06:13] uh with the regime, but it's good that we have the opportunity [00:06:16] to see her, that she is alive, healthy [00:06:20] she is not, she is very [00:06:22] sick, but she is alive at this moment, this [00:06:26] comes as good news for her family that they can [00:06:29] see her, because her family has been living in exile for many [00:06:32] years, and her children who are [00:06:36] some somewhat older teenagers, it's already been a decade or [00:06:40] a decade and a half that they haven't [00:06:42] you, seen her live, but only occasionally [00:06:44] when she appears in public. 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Here's a reminder of [00:12:33] the reactions from Europe, but also, of course, from the United States of [00:12:37] America, regarding the glorification of convicted war criminal Ratko [00:12:40] Mladić. The picture that the state minister of foreign [00:12:44] trade and economic relations himself published and praised in [00:12:48] anticipation, as he says, of the resurrection of the dead, he laid [00:12:51] a wreath on the grave of the convicted war criminal, a badge with the flag [00:12:57] which the name and surname of Ratko Mladić are written. Condemnations that [00:13:00] have been arriving in recent days from European parliamentarians and American [00:13:04] congressmen who condemned the glorification of convicted [00:13:07] war criminals, obviously did not bother [00:13:11] Košarac. On the contrary, not only Mr. Košarac, but no one [00:13:14] from either [00:13:17] politicians in power or those in opposition, if [00:13:21] we are talking about Republika Srpska. Just three or four [00:13:25] days ago, the mayor of Banja Luka, Draško [00:13:29] Stanivuković, announced that a memorial bust of [00:13:32] Ratko Mladić would be built in the center of Banja Luka [00:13:35] at the monument to fallen fighters, which best shows [00:13:39] that absolutely no one cares about the stance [00:13:41] of the international community. The President [00:13:45] of the European Commission reiterated today that she was disgusted by the footage from the funeral [00:13:49] of convicted war criminal Ratko Mladić in Belgrade last [00:13:52] of the European Union in the European Parliament, she said that the glorification of war [00:13:55] criminals simply has no place in the European [00:13:58] Union. All victims of the wars in the former [00:14:00] Yugoslavia deserve to be remembered, and all [00:14:04] their families deserve our sympathy, because that is what [00:14:08] we as a union stand for, for truth, justice, [00:14:12] respect for our values. Similar statements could be heard [00:14:15] from European parliamentarians the day before, but with direct condemnation of Serbia and [00:14:19] officials from Republika Srpska. Many demanded concrete [00:14:22] sanctions, but Lajen did not mention that. In Washington, criticism [00:14:26] from American congressmen regarding Milorad Dodik, Serbia, and the policy that [00:14:30] divides Bosnia and Herzegovina, is a unified stance: the glorification of war [00:14:33] criminals must not be tolerated. However, after yesterday's debate in the American [00:14:37] Congress, it is clear that Donald [00:14:41] Trump's current administration considers the Dodik [00:14:43] case [00:14:45] What kind of messages are we sending when we talk about American [00:14:48] interests? On the one hand, security interests and America's [00:14:52] concerns regarding Russia were omitted from the strategic dialogue, [00:14:55] and on the other hand, former convicts who lobby [00:14:58] and the president's relatives are involved in the processes. What [00:15:02] does that tell the people in [00:15:03] the region? [00:15:07] The decision to remove Dodik and those around him from the sanctioned list was [00:15:10] linked to resolving and calming the deepest political [00:15:14] crisis in Bosnia and Herzegovina in recent decades. As [00:15:17] a result of American diplomacy, Milorad Dodik resigned from [00:15:21] the position of President of Republika Srpska, and the legislature [00:15:25] adopted laws that annulled the most [00:15:28] anti-Dayton acts that were previously passed. Adnan [00:15:32] Huskić comments, things could change if the Democrats [00:15:36] win a majority in the American Congress in the upcoming elections [00:15:39] in early November. However, Brussels' policy remains [00:15:42] unchanged, there is no red card for Serbia in [00:15:46] the European Union. However, what remains, that problematic part, [00:15:50] is that the European Union still does not have a clear relationship [00:15:54] with Bosnia and Herzegovina. Because, as we just heard, this is a red [00:15:57] line, nothing has changed, so you essentially have [00:16:01] no consequences [00:16:04] for the authorities in of the European Commission previously announced a [00:16:08] visit to the Western Balkan countries. It is not [00:16:11] known at this moment whether she will bypass Serbia. Tina [00:16:14] Jelindizdar N1. [00:16:31] And what is changing today in American policy towards Bosnia [00:16:35] and Herzegovina, how important could that change be [00:16:38] for the future of our country? In the American Congress, a few [00:16:42] days ago there was talk of lifting sanctions on Milorad Dodik, about [00:16:45] the southern interconnection, state property, the future [00:16:49] of the OHR. Some warn that the Trump administration, through these [00:16:53] moves, politically strengthens Dodik and weakens the state [00:16:56] institutions of Bosnia and Herzegovina, while his [00:16:59] administration offers a completely different explanation, that the time [00:17:02] of American imposition of solutions is over and that responsibility [00:17:06] should be returned to local politicians. At the same time, [00:17:09] today the candidate for the new US ambassador to Bosnia and [00:17:13] Herzegovina comes before the Senate. What is actually happening in Washington and [00:17:17] what is the new American calculation for Bosnia and Herzegovina? [00:17:39] a few days ago, which certainly attracted a lot [00:17:42] of attention in [00:17:46] the still current topics in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Let's [00:17:49] start with Milorad Dodik and the sanctions, given that [00:17:53] we could very directly hear [00:17:56] the explanation that his behavior after [00:17:59] the sanctions has not changed. How do you interpret [00:18:03] all that discussion, everything we heard, that is, on [00:18:07] the one hand, a request for the return of those sanctions, and on the other [00:18:10] hand, the justification of the Trump [00:18:13] administration for their lifting. [00:18:26] Several members of Congress stated [00:18:29] that Dodik [00:18:31] has already [00:18:34] violated [00:18:38] the principles for which [00:18:40] these [00:18:43] sanctions were imposed, [00:18:46] and that there is a basis for them to be reimposed, [00:18:49] however, this administration [00:18:53] says that the sanctions were lifted because [00:18:57] he withdrew the anti-Dayton [00:18:59] laws last [00:19:02] but [00:19:06] since then, Dr. Dodik [00:19:08] has, if not maintained, then even [00:19:12] gone further in his rhetoric, so [00:19:15] I don't think that there is [00:19:17] convincing, sound logic [00:19:21] behind the explanation of this new [00:19:25] administration [00:19:26] as to why [00:19:30] the sanctions [00:19:33] were lifted and why they will not eventually be reimposed. [00:19:36] Uh, what Mr. Lawton said in Congress [00:19:39] was not convincing to me, [00:19:43] especially when they asked him if he would reimpose [00:19:46] sanctions, Mr. [00:19:50] Lawton [00:19:53] did not commit that it was possible. On [00:19:57] the other hand, congressmen reminded him of [00:20:00] the law that Congress adopted at the end of 2025, [00:20:03] which actually provided for sanctions for [00:20:06] actors who threaten peace and stability in [00:20:09] the Western Balkans. If that is the correct [00:20:13] interpretation of that law, can it then happen that the executive [00:20:16] branch in America, in the state where you come from, [00:20:20] and Congress on the other hand, find themselves in a direct [00:20:24] conflict over Dodik in [00:20:27] the period that is ahead of us, [00:20:29] it can happen that they are in [00:20:32] conflict. I think there already [00:20:36] is [00:20:39] a difference of opinion which is [00:20:41] obvious. [00:20:44] And now, we will see [00:20:46] today. [00:20:50] When Mr. Johnson appears before [00:20:53] Congress, will the same question arise before [00:20:56] a larger number of congressmen regarding [00:21:00] this issue? It should, but [00:21:03] we will see. [00:21:06] On the list of what needs to be done [00:21:08] and [00:21:11] about what they can [00:21:13] conflict over in Congress, where they will [00:21:17] potentially be more numerous. [00:21:20] After these November elections, [00:21:23] we will definitely hear this story again, it's just [00:21:27] a question of how much the [00:21:31] administration of the president [00:21:34] will push its agenda. [00:21:38] It is clear to me that this current [00:21:42] administration does not want and will not reimpose [00:21:45] sanctions on Dodik. [00:21:47] Mhm, they said [00:21:51] that instrument, that they will use it if [00:21:54] they assess that someone has threatened either [00:21:58] stability or American interests. Now, you are someone [00:22:02] who certainly knows the situation in the United [00:22:05] States of America very well, but also in Bosnia and Herzegovina, where you have lived for more [00:22:08] than twenty years. What would [00:22:10] you say, considering the [00:22:14] situation in both countries, what action, if any, could [00:22:18] either Dodik or any of the actors in Bosnia and Herzegovina take [00:22:22] for American sanctions to be [00:22:24] reconsidered? [00:22:31] I think that Dodik currently feels [00:22:34] untouchable, [00:22:36] meaning that he will go unpunished, [00:22:40] so I really don't know what would [00:22:42] have to happen, [00:22:45] um, or what anti-Dayton [00:22:49] move he would have to make for [00:22:51] whether he would eventually put police on [00:22:55] the border between entities or declare [00:22:58] independence, will that be the move that will [00:23:01] reopen the discussion [00:23:04] about imposing [00:23:06] sanctions? [00:23:09] Louis Kryscho, who is currently the acting [00:23:12] High Representative, [00:23:15] is a person who has only [00:23:18] je osoba koja je samo. [00:23:20] warned all sides [00:23:22] uh [00:23:26] in terms of the activities they [00:23:28] undertake, but no sanction, no [00:23:32] serious sanction that should be imposed for [00:23:36] anti-Dayton actions, has been considered, [00:23:39] as far as I know. Yes, the instrument [00:23:41] exists, [00:23:46] will the Treasury Department again [00:23:50] impose know if they have red [00:23:53] lines or if it [00:23:57] is something for which they need to call the White House and get their [00:24:00] approval before reimposing sanctions. Yes, uh, [00:24:04] in the Democrats' report, Dodik was not much different [00:24:07] from and [00:24:10] from the energy projects that await [00:24:13] us in that sense, certainly of American [00:24:17] interests, we are talking about the southern [00:24:20] interconnection, the continuation, and Keating [00:24:23] warned of possible wider political trade, [00:24:26] citing politically empowered Dodik, a weakened [00:24:29] OHR, and American interest in the southern interconnection, as something [00:24:33] that could create particular pressure on the authorities of Bosnia and Herzegovina [00:24:37] regarding the issue of state [00:24:40] address that, how serious do you think that scenario is? [00:24:44] Mhm. [00:24:53] I don't see a direct connection there. [00:24:56] The southern [00:24:59] interconnection should only pass through the [00:25:01] federation. The law has been adopted, but as far [00:25:05] as I know, the contract has not been signed, [00:25:09] and it should have been signed [00:25:12] at the same time when the amendments [00:25:15] to the law were adopted. As far as I know, the contract [00:25:19] with the contractor has also not been [00:25:23] signed. [00:25:27] I know that we also need to work with [00:25:30] the Croatian side, but of course, state [00:25:34] property must be utilized [00:25:37] if we want to see, or if they want to see [00:25:41] that pipeline built. But [00:25:45] it has been clear for years that [00:25:48] Milorad Dodik is focused [00:25:52] on state property, that he [00:25:54] also received Vučić's [00:25:57] support, that his [00:25:59] eyes are constantly [00:26:03] fixed on state property, because he wants [00:26:06] to dispose of it, eventually sell [00:26:10] state property, and everyone wants to [00:26:13] play, to be involved in this game, not just [00:26:17] Dodik, but it seems that only Dodik would be [00:26:20] at the top of that pyramid, but no, there are many [00:26:24] others who want to invest [00:26:27] to extract profit from Bosnia and Herzegovina [00:26:31] based on solving the problem [00:26:33] of state, under quotation marks, the problem of state [00:26:36] property. [00:26:40] In the Congress [00:26:44] report, we said that this is a constitutional [00:26:47] issue, and we said that the [00:26:51] 5 + 2 condition for closing the OHR [00:26:53] has always been a too low [00:26:57] bar for closing the OHR, because in [00:27:00] fact, if you remove... the EUFOR [00:27:03] and the OHR, you no longer have instruments for [00:27:06] implementing and ensuring [00:27:09] the Dayton [00:27:13] Agreement. [00:27:16] If you don't have that, then you must have another operational [00:27:19] system, so either state property [00:27:22] will be left [00:27:25] as state until [00:27:29] the moment you don't have [00:27:33] a democratic government and a more responsible government, [00:27:37] Dodik wants that Pandora's Box to be opened, but he [00:27:40] is certainly not the only one who [00:27:43] wants it. There are domestic [00:27:47] and foreign actors who see their interest there, who [00:27:51] want to uh, have state [00:27:54] property lowered to the entity level and even [00:27:57] lower. And that is a cause for [00:28:01] concern. [00:28:05] I hope that the members [00:28:08] of PIC and the European Union [00:28:11] show a firm stance on this issue, but I haven't seen them [00:28:15] do it so far. Yes, a lot of Congressmen [00:28:19] talked about possible pressure even on [00:28:22] the Bosniak member of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina to [00:28:25] accept a solution for that state property that will be in [00:28:29] favor of what has been advocated for many years. [00:28:33] Republika Srpska, but the issue of state property [00:28:36] was not actually the only segment discussed and warned about [00:28:40] when talking about the southern [00:28:43] interconnection, when it comes to ties [00:28:47] between the company and the Trump administration, what [00:28:51] is it that is somehow most important that we could [00:29:06] In Kitin's report, you [00:29:09] the hearing [00:29:13] that there is a lot [00:29:16] of information that we publicly know [00:29:20] that the company [00:29:23] firma [00:29:25] was founded right [00:29:28] after it was announced. [00:29:32] Whether America has an interest in making that [00:29:35] interconnection for BiH [00:29:39] gas to be excluded from that [00:29:43] project with Bechtel, who was also [00:29:46] interested in participating in that project, now it is no longer [00:29:49] clear who will do what, [00:29:53] but [00:29:57] it was seen in the papers that there is a connection [00:30:01] between Trump's interests and this [00:30:04] project, [00:30:11] but it is clear to me according to [00:30:14] the report [00:30:16] that at the core of the previous [00:30:19] policy, this is a big [00:30:22] deviation. [00:30:26] The US has supported this [00:30:30] project for some time. [00:30:33] And from the beginning it was supposed [00:30:37] to be part of the Adriatic [00:30:40] gas pipeline, but it wasn't, [00:30:43] so [00:30:47] to move away from all that, to a company [00:30:50] that was founded immediately [00:30:53] after the adoption of the amendments to the law [00:30:57] on gas.