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[00:00:00] Mm, on the other hand, the police of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Republika Srpska
[00:00:03] banned the gathering of students in Banja Luka due to
[00:00:07] alleged public safety, and now I congratulate them, now I congratulate them, that is so politically
[00:00:11] hypocritical, that is actually a reflection of fear, that is something, that is Milorad
[00:00:14] Dodik's attempt to save himself, to maintain the connection he
[00:00:16] great, in definitely had with Serbia, uh, that speaks of the absence
[00:00:20] of any patriotism, that is not a sense of belonging to a fraternal
[00:00:23] people, uh, some brotherly-sisterly relations, that is
[00:00:27] indeed fear of positions of power, of economic interests
[00:00:30] that he definitely had through corrupt cooperation with the regime,
[00:00:34] the outgoing regime of Aleksandar
[00:00:36] choose to focus on Vučić, uh, and simply Milorad Dodik is now in a hopeless situation, because on the other
[00:00:40] side there are no uh, interlocutors in the form
[00:00:44] of Vučić and his entire crew who are gathered around him, but there are
[00:00:47] serious people, people with integrity who will remember who among the
[00:00:51] students, who among the political groups was
[00:00:54] not against it, one thing is to be against it, that is part of, part of political
[00:00:57] pluralism, what happened in Republika Srpska is the use
[00:01:01] of institutions of power to oppose the most valuable in our
[00:01:04] society, we have, you will remember the students in East Sarajevo
[00:01:08] who were manipulated, directly used
[00:01:11] to supposedly start some historical myths and to make those
[00:01:15] students from Republika Srpska from the Republic of Serbia presented as if they were
[00:01:19] some traitors, it went so far, so low, so much
[00:01:22] collision with those people, physical violence was used, so that
[00:01:26] first of all all the people gathered around Milorad Dodik, but also some people from the opposition -
[00:01:30] in Republika Srpska they should first say a big "sorry students for what we
[00:01:33] did to you, we owe a big apology, we will see what happens next", what can happen next, can Dodik
[00:01:37] be banned from entering Serbia,
[00:01:41] can he be dealt with through his
[00:01:45] real estate, uh, business
[00:01:48] connections, companies, uh, that he has in Serbia? Well, there will definitely
[00:01:52] be room for the work of judicial bodies, I think that the ties that
[00:01:55] existed, someone rightly said earlier in interviews that it was not
[00:01:59] any kind of connection between Republika Srpska and the Republic of Serbia, which definitely has its
[00:02:02] constitutional basis in the form of establishing special, parallel
[00:02:05] ties, it was also a connection between two families, between two
[00:02:08] people, that's precisely why it is
[00:02:12] necessary to perceive that level of need for him
[00:02:15] to politically, economically survive that departure of a person close to him
[00:02:18] with whom he had a lot of
[00:02:22] business communication, how can the student list relate to Milorad
[00:02:25] Dodik? Many, analyzing this story in our studio over the past few days, say
[00:02:29] that the first test could be January 9th. How can
[00:02:33] Serbia's relationship, or rather the student movement, the student
[00:02:37] list, be towards, for example, January 9th in the entity of Republika
[00:02:40] Srpska? Honestly, I don't think it's a fundamental
[00:02:43] issue, and appreciating the importance of all historical issues that will eventually come to the
[00:02:47] agenda, I don't think that a stance on any issue,
[00:02:50] even January 9th, will determine the position of the student list
[00:02:54] and their eventual prosperity and
[00:02:57] consideration.
[00:03:00] "Here we are actually questioning how Bosnia and Herzegovina will function
[00:03:03] after this, whether there will first be
[00:03:06] interference in the politics of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia, but on the other
[00:03:09] hand, what will be the attitude towards those important issues that are on the list
[00:03:13] in Bosnia and Herzegovina, that is, January 9th, that is, the genocide in Srebrenica,
[00:03:17] that is, uh, the question of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the European Union, NATO and
[00:03:21] so on, absolutely, and what is actually, I think, knowing these
[00:03:24] people, knowing their way of thinking, their way of political action and the level
[00:03:28] of integrity and professional knowledge they possess, I will just mention and quote
[00:03:32] Mr. Dejan Šoškić, who is one of the leaders of the student list
[00:03:35] and who will be a future member of parliament, he simply
[00:03:39] stated, we in the region want the best relations with
[00:03:42] fraternal Bosnia and Herzegovina, I think that this is definitely something
[00:03:46] that should send hope and optimism, I
[00:03:48] say, uh, the fact is that colleagues from the student list also
[00:03:52] stated, we in Bosnia and Herzegovina will not appoint
[00:03:55] partners, the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina elect their political representatives, we will
[00:03:59] respect them within the boundaries of our best interests,
[00:04:03] but the interests of all of us, we will send the best messages. I think that what is
[00:04:07] the victory of this student list is the effort to go
[00:04:10] beyond those frameworks that have been holding us back for 30 years, and
[00:04:14] that is the key question, I think, let's try at least for
[00:04:18] the next 30 years to free future generations from all those
[00:04:21] burdens that are holding us back, numerous politicians from Bosnia and
[00:04:24] Herzegovina, that's why I say that term "students" for me is not just a term that is linked
[00:04:28] to the borders of the Republic of Serbia, it is a term as a synonym
[00:04:32] for intellectual regression and complete degradation of science
[00:04:35] and education, it is very visible in Bosnia and Herzegovina. You
[00:04:39] had people who were, well, that quote regarding the stance on January
[00:04:42] 9th was expressed by a person who, in the worst possible way, spoke about January
[00:04:46] 9th as a determinant of student behavior in this show, it was expressed by a person who,
[00:04:50] a couple of months ago, in the worst possible way,
[00:04:53] spoke about students, uh,
[00:04:55] in the worst possible way, criticized their religious affiliations, religious
[00:04:59] orientations, and so on, but I will just remind you that those students
[00:05:03] achieved a victory, for example, I particularly like the victory in Novi Pazar,
[00:05:07] I just wanted to mention that, so students got more than all three Bosniak
[00:05:10] parties in Novi Pazar. A message of unity, these are students
[00:05:14] who, despite all the ideological heterogeneity, which is completely legitimate, I mean, it's
[00:05:17] absolutely a society where we have different types of
[00:05:20] views on both the past and the present and future, but here students
[00:05:24] presented a supra-national program, if you have a situation where a
[00:05:28] girl from Novi Pazar, who is covered, is in the embrace
[00:05:31] of a boy, a young man, a student from Šumadija who is wearing a Šajkača and
[00:05:35] they send a clear message, this is our country, we don't have
[00:05:38] another country, we want to make this country functional, to
[00:05:42] establish a system of rule of law, to establish a system where no one will
[00:05:46] operate outside the framework of the Constitution, and what is a very important moment, why the
[00:05:50] recipe for student victory is crucial here, they have now offered a concept where
[00:05:54] we have an answer of "we" towards "I", so there is no more
[00:05:58] "I gave pensions, I built highways, I will
[00:06:01] pay your salaries, I will leave you without a job." Now we have a completely
[00:06:05] new concept and a new political paradigm, where we have collective
[00:06:09] responsibility, a collective approach, and a complete
[00:06:12] healing of institutions, public authority,
[00:06:16] respect for the constitution, that is something that is fundamental, and that is precisely the reason why
[00:06:20] the student movement arose, let's establish an efficient,
[00:06:23] functional system in which everyone will have respect, in which human rights
[00:06:27] will be highly respected, in which institutions will do their job, in which
[00:06:31] we will not have these arrogant people walking the streets, with hoods,
[00:06:34] thugs, and police who are in the service of that mafia, when that is over,
[00:06:38] when the institutions are healed mm to that extent, it is easy later
[00:06:42] to create a political arena where political subjects will have their
[00:06:46] political ideologies and where they will, in a democratic environment, an environment
[00:06:49] of free media, be able to conduct political debate, we had a situation where political debate
[00:06:53] could not be conducted because you did not have space at all for people who
[00:06:57] thought differently, what do your colleagues at the Faculty of Law say about your
[00:07:01] struggle and passion for supporting neighboring
[00:07:05] Serbia, well we had various reactions, so there wasn't
[00:07:08] much conversation, I mean there would be advice to calm down a bit.
[00:07:12] The ball to stand out or is it some kind of support? No,
[00:07:16] there wasn't, I am very free in my views and I think that is in a way an academic
[00:07:19] duty, because uh, as I
[00:07:23] said, the student movement did arise in Serbia, they had their
[00:07:26] political articulation of power and demands in the form of a student
[00:07:30] movement that achieved a masterful victory in the elections,
[00:07:34] however, the idea that was propagated through the student movement is
[00:07:37] an idea that could indeed be expanded and applied, we would be
[00:07:41] very happy and proud. As a citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina, I would be happy and proud if
[00:07:45] I mm had at least the opportunity to partially
[00:07:48] participate in such a project and process that will happen in my
[00:07:52] country, and that's why I think that what needs to happen for that to
[00:07:54] be realized, first of all, uh, we need to start from many
[00:07:58] different segments of society, first of all in education, where in the educational
[00:08:02] system we actually need to teach children and students more
[00:08:05] from schools, high schools, and finally
[00:08:08] universities as the final form of education, that actually
[00:08:12] uh... the academic space is not a space where someone will just transfer knowledge to you, you should
[00:08:15] feel free to act academically, to question
[00:08:18] things, to critically review everything that is served to you, and
[00:08:22] I think that is the most important thing, and to teach students that everything someone tells you
[00:08:25] is not sacred, it is not some dogma that should not be questioned, precisely for the
[00:08:29] sake of questioning based on, of course, some legitimate grounds and
[00:08:33] rational arguments, you create a free society, and
[00:08:36] the most important thing is actually for citizens to be freed here,
[00:08:40] I think that political participation is very important. situation, we had
[00:08:43] a situation in Bosnia and Herzegovina in the last elections where 42%
[00:08:47] of people voted, that speaks of the feeling and responsibility
[00:08:50] of the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina towards the future that is coming, it is
[00:08:54] very important to work on issues of political literacy, but ultimately
[00:08:57] to work on an economic liberation of people where people
[00:09:01] will truly be economically free to express their opinion. That is a
[00:09:04] synergy, my advice is always to
[00:09:08] try to break free from the chains that were
[00:09:11] left to us by previous generations, we can always find things
[00:09:15] in which we will not agree, that is definitely something that is, that
[00:09:19] is now a question of approach, I think that we can indeed have
[00:09:22] space where we will find common ground, there are many
[00:09:26] more such things, mm, where we will be able to find a common language and a common
[00:09:29] solution for the good of all of us, and the late Prime Minister of Serbia Zoran Đinđić said in
[00:09:33] one of his appearances, "we will see each other in the future, because we will
[00:09:37] all live there together," and I think that future is something worth
[00:09:41] fighting for and for which... students in Serbia from Bobde, thank you very much for
[00:09:45] your time and for being a guest on New Day, it's nice to hear the thoughts of young
[00:09:48] people, especially academics from Bosnia and Herzegovina who, well, have
[00:09:52] insights into Serbia somewhere wishing that everyone will be
[00:09:56] better in the future, how things will unfold, it's best that
[00:10:00] time disproves some, confirms others, we sincerely hope
[00:10:04] that what we talked about this morning will be confirmed, thank you once again, thank
[00:10:07] you, stay with New Day, next we will talk about the elections
[00:10:11] in America. Our guest will be Reuf Bajrović
[00:10:15] to talk about his personal experience of living in
[00:10:18] America, but also analytically and politically. Stay with
[00:10:22] us.
[00:12:18] Trump's policy faces a new test. Who will have the majority
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[00:12:25] the president from Washington, we follow the key moments of the American
[00:12:28] midterm elections that could determine the political future of the USA,
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[00:12:38] consequences, from decisions in Washington to consequences for
[00:12:41] Europe and our region. What changes does this election
[00:12:44] night bring and what do the results mean for Donald Trump,
[00:12:48] we bring live from the American capital.
[00:12:51] American congressional elections. November 3, election night.
[00:12:55] on N1.
[00:13:07] 10 hours and 12 minutes we continue to talk about the elections
[00:13:10] on New Day, this time about those in America which
[00:13:13] are tomorrow, Americans will decide who will control
[00:13:17] Congress, how much space for implementing his policy Donald
[00:13:21] Trump will have in the last two years of his mandate.
[00:13:25] Although the president is not being elected, the midterms are a kind of assessment of his
[00:13:28] work. Republicans have a narrow majority in both houses, polls show that
[00:13:32] they could lose it. Trump is therefore campaigning as if his political
[00:13:36] destiny is being decided. We are talking about the American elections,
[00:13:39] political divisions, the atmosphere in society, with Reuf Bajrović who will
[00:13:43] speak from an analytical, political perspective, but
[00:13:46] also as a man who has spent a good part of his life
[00:13:49] in America, good morning to you and welcome to New Day. Good
[00:13:53] morning to you and all your viewers. How do American elections look from
[00:13:57] the perspective of a man who has the experience of living in America
[00:14:00] and knows the local political system and social
[00:14:03] conditions, I will quote a friend of mine
[00:14:06] who back in 2006
[00:14:10] said a very important thing that I often quote in the context of American
[00:14:14] elections, considering what is actually at stake in
[00:14:17] American elections, the amount of money
[00:14:21] that is spent is small, even though 12 billion dollars were spent
[00:14:24] on... the 24 elections now will probably
[00:14:26] be even more. What are the stakes, what is it about?
[00:14:30] Well, the stakes are the control
[00:14:34] of the most powerful world
[00:14:36] power, uh, so even in the context of these elections where
[00:14:40] the American president is not being elected, the American Congress is certainly
[00:14:44] and that's what people who are not familiar with the American political
[00:14:47] system don't know, that the American Congress is much stronger than the
[00:14:51] president himself, so Congress decides the budget, Congress
[00:15:01] and from the Senate and from the presidential house, that is, what is called
[00:15:05] Congress, and the stakes are huge, are
[00:15:08] American citizens aware of that? Well, how could they not be, well you will have
[00:15:12] this in a political sense
[00:15:15] a crazy game, so much is spent, so
[00:15:19] many people are invested in the elections themselves,
[00:15:23] that it is even for American standards, I think, a record
[00:15:27] level and Donald Trump is very aware, but Donald Trump, I think, on
[00:15:30] a human level behaves a bit irrationally,
[00:15:34] because he is now at the popularity level of George W. Bush from
[00:15:37] 2006, but he behaves as if he is Donald Trump from 2024 when he was at
[00:15:41] the peak of his popularity. So he comes out publicly and says, "give me
[00:15:44] a vote." I mean, it's like he's on
[00:15:48] this. Which speaks of helplessness and despair at that moment. Well, I don't know if
[00:15:51] that's helplessness and despair. So there are various theories, there is a theory
[00:15:55] that it's not working for him at this moment because he's at the
[00:15:58] popularity level of Bush from 2006. After
[00:16:01] Hurricane Katrina, after Iraq, so we're talking about 20
[00:16:05] years that no one has been so unpopular. He's even in some
[00:16:09] polls below Bush, even at the level of Nixon before
[00:16:11] impeachment, so he's at a record
[00:16:15] low popularity, but he insists that he
[00:16:18] be the one who leads this, who is the face of this campaign,
[00:16:21] there are various theories for that, he controls part
[00:16:25] of the Republican party, he always controlled sovereignly the so-called MAGA Republicans, so
[00:16:29] that's his MAGA movement, make America great again, which is still with
[00:16:32] him, so he has almost 90% of their support, but Republicans who are not
[00:16:36] MAGA are, you know...
[00:16:41] Well, I think it's the war against Iran, mm, the war against Iran that
[00:16:44] raised oil prices, oil prices caused
[00:16:47] inflation in America and directly affected agricultural producers,
[00:16:51] especially in states like Kansas, Iowa, so in Kansas
[00:16:55] currently you have,
[00:16:57] just now the latest research from the New York
[00:16:59] Times came out, and Democrats could get
[00:17:03] a senator in Kansas after 94
[00:17:06] years, so for... the last time Kansas elected a senator from
[00:17:09] the Democratic Party was in 1932. My father is 37 years old,
[00:17:13] so we're talking about 94 years, that was
[00:17:16] before World War II, so it's incredible how much that
[00:17:20] political scene has changed due to this, the war in Iran,
[00:17:24] America and Israel, in America, that's not the only reason,
[00:17:28] but it definitely is the most important reason, because it
[00:17:31] caused a chain reaction of rising diesel prices, diesel
[00:17:35] is what American trucks use
[00:17:38] to deliver goods, that raises food
[00:17:42] prices, especially for the population and has significantly affected people in
[00:17:45] states like Iowa and Kansas where agriculture is more important
[00:17:48] than in other states, for example, in Texas that is not the case even though in
[00:17:51] Texas also this Democratic candidate Alarico is leading in
[00:17:55] Texas, Democrats have not won senators since
[00:17:58] 1988. So Beto O'Rourke, well, you
[00:18:02] see, and you remember, you know, I'm kidding,
[00:18:06] so Beto O'Rourke was the last candidate in 2018 who came close, I think
[00:18:10] he lost by two points to Ted Cruz, and
[00:18:13] currently he's leading by 5, 6, 7 points according to polls, mind you,
[00:18:17] that's all almost within the margin of error, so it's not
[00:18:20] impossible that Republicans are being underestimated in polls, what I read from
[00:18:24] what you are saying is actually two things,
[00:18:27] one is, so if Kansas after 32 years gets a senator
[00:18:30] for the first time, uh, or in some other federal states maybe it will or
[00:18:34] won't, how much time does it take for change? When we
[00:18:38] here actually hope and very often
[00:18:41] expect some express changes in society, they don't
[00:18:44] come so easily, that's number one, and number two that it seems to me
[00:18:47] that only turbulence on the economic level and
[00:18:50] on the economic front can ignite that kind of dissatisfaction among
[00:18:54] people that would lead to such a, I would say, radical change as the voters in
[00:18:57] Kansas would make by electing a senator after so many years, well, you
[00:19:01] are now mentioning this
[00:19:03] theory of political changes which I think has proven
[00:19:07] incorrect in our case, so in the specific case of these elections
[00:19:11] it is a question of the economic standard of citizens which has suddenly
[00:19:15] changed in my opinion, we will see, so we are now it is possible that the polls
[00:19:18] are wrong, it is possible, look if you turn 3% in
[00:19:22] the direction of the Republicans, the Republicans retain control of the Senate,
[00:19:26] so I am talking about elections that are very
[00:19:29] close, in Bosnia and
[00:19:32] Herzegovina one vote decided the other day, you saw in Livno, one vote decided
[00:19:36] that this one party gets
[00:19:39] a mandate a mandate in the Livno
[00:19:42] Canton, which means that this government which is
[00:19:45] now there which is controlled by HDZ 98 which means that that person will go
[00:19:49] directly to the House of Peoples and maybe change as a Serb, so a Serb might change
[00:19:53] this balance of power on the federal level, one vote decided all that
[00:19:56] in America it is similar, look in 100,000 votes the election was decided
[00:20:00] in 2020 although Biden was leading a lot because in those states where it was important Biden
[00:20:04] won by only 100,000 votes combined, a difference in the state where.
[00:20:15] Yes, it's the economy, but the last elections were not decided by the economy in 2024, so
[00:20:19] the last 24 elections were decided by
[00:20:22] uh, so issues that are
[00:20:25] of political culture, so issues of LGBT rights, you remember that
[00:20:28] Republicans talked about trans people, often transgender people where it was
[00:20:31] because they didn't have economic problems, so then other
[00:20:35] issues came to the agenda, it's the same with us. So with us, the story about how
[00:20:39] only economic issues will suddenly erase differences in
[00:20:42] Bosnia and Herzegovina, I don't think it's true, so it has been shown in our elections
[00:20:46] that this is not the case, so people don't just vote based on
[00:20:50] "considering economic issues, so with their stomachs," they are very
[00:20:54] important, but people vote based on, it is a very complex question, so I think that
[00:20:57] on one level among those left-wingers,
[00:21:01] it is often mentioned as uh, is it evidence in Bosnia and
[00:21:05] Herzegovina and in some other countries, it's not just Bosnia and Herzegovina, that it is
[00:21:08] evidence that in our country these
[00:21:11] differences among people are so deep that economic issues cannot move them,
[00:21:14] but it's not quite like that, so you have the issue of corruption
[00:21:18] which does not have to be related to, it can be. Look, you can live very well in
[00:21:21] a country that has huge corruption, mhm, so then people often
[00:21:26] corruption, there are studies in America that say, now before these
[00:21:30] elections, that first, so when you ask Americans
[00:21:33] what is the main problem
[00:21:36] in America, it's not just inflation, you have studies that say that
[00:21:40] problem number one is corruption, high corruption, so corruption among people who
[00:21:43] make decisions, therefore it's complex, every election is always
[00:21:47] a new one. "What about the youth, especially
[00:21:50] Generation Z,
[00:21:53] who vote differently everywhere in the world from their parents, is the
[00:21:57] generational attitude towards politics changing and can that generation
[00:22:00] make a change? Well, you see, that generation made a change
[00:22:03] in 2024, so Donald Trump won the largest
[00:22:07] number of votes for a Republican candidate among young people
[00:22:10] ever, ever. You have states where he won among young people, so
[00:22:14] which was generally unexpected, but now young people
[00:22:18] massively seem to be turning so
[00:22:21] to the Democrats, young Republicans who are
[00:22:24] traditional Republicans who did not change their vote in 2024 are quite
[00:22:27] disappointed with this, especially Trump's
[00:22:31] attitude towards Israel and Iran, so Israel is a big, big
[00:22:34] issue in these elections, and so it is not
[00:22:37] just an economic issue, it is an issue that has nothing to do with economics,
[00:22:40] and some believe that because of Israel he attacked Iran, I
[00:22:44] agree that that then caused a
[00:22:47] series of that chain reaction of rising oil prices,
[00:22:51] which then caused inflation, which then directly caused people who
[00:22:54] are involved in agriculture in America to be in a very bad position, who are
[00:22:58] traditionally the hardest Republicans, now they are
[00:23:01] turning in Kansas and Iowa, so two states where, especially Iowa, we have our people,
[00:23:04] so people from Bosnia and Herzegovina, where these people
[00:23:07] are now turning to Democrats for the first time, which is truly incredible, because in Iowa
[00:23:11] there is a battle for the Senate, so Democrats could get a senator
[00:23:14] from Iowa, you mentioned Israel, how everything is actually
[00:23:17] connected, that Iran is actually on...
[00:23:20] attacked because of Israel and the loss of that support from young people who
[00:23:23] once gave it to Donald Trump, how are the political fates of
[00:23:27] Netanyahu and Donald Trump connected? Can the result in one
[00:23:30] country influence another? Yes, of course, I think the question of power in Israel
[00:23:34] is important for Bosnia and Herzegovina, so that's another topic,
[00:23:38] but will Netanyahu leave? Yes, he will
[00:23:41] indeed, so the answer to that question will influence many other things, because
[00:23:45] I mean, let's not lie here, so we can talk about it more freely
[00:23:48] now, it had enormous influence, that Likud party, globally, and still does.
[00:23:52] And in Bosnia and Herzegovina, look, you have two main allies of Likud in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Milorad
[00:23:55] Dodik, Dragan Čović, so I mean, we can tell people here
[00:23:59] that it has nothing to do with it, but it does, they are directly connected,
[00:24:03] Netanyahu's fall would certainly affect relations in Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:24:06] not only in the United States, especially in the United States, because
[00:24:09] look, you remember 2022 when there was talk about the imposition of
[00:24:13] the election law by Christian Schmidt in August, then the story came out
[00:24:16] in the most reputable Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, about
[00:24:20] how the Israeli part, at the time,
[00:24:23] the ambassador and the ambassador stood behind
[00:24:26] the imposed election law for Bosnia and Herzegovina, then the previous
[00:24:29] Netanyahu government, the previous one came out and said, "We don't interfere in
[00:24:33] the matter, we are against the imposition of the election law," then with the
[00:24:36] arrival, the Israeli position changed again regarding the imposition of the election law,
[00:24:40] which was very controversial by Christian Schmidt, that is just a small
[00:24:43] proof of how things change with the departure, the departure of one or another
[00:24:47] government in America, it's the same there, so there are
[00:24:50] relations of these, Jewish circles who are more liberal in the United
[00:24:54] States with Netanyahu's opponents,
[00:24:57] a good part of both the left and the right in America, even Democrats, are
[00:25:01] very close to Netanyahu, so it would absolutely have an impact, let's go back to these
[00:25:05] young people who were very important in 2024, but even now,
[00:25:08] how much do social media and fragmented media in
[00:25:11] America today have an impact, so that Americans have completely, I would
[00:25:15] say, within their states different pictures
[00:25:18] of reality, not us who almost, the divisions are
[00:25:22] deep, almost as if ethnic groups are involved, that's quite a new
[00:25:25] phenomenon, which started sometime in '96 when President Clinton
[00:25:29] allowed those cable networks similar to yours
[00:25:32] to be organized, networks that are news-focused, that are exclusively focused on news, which
[00:25:36] then over time developed into CNN and Fox News, later MSNBC, which were, well, some
[00:25:40] were for Republicans, Fox News these CNN and
[00:25:43] MSNBC were for this, for Democrats,
[00:25:46] then over time, people started
[00:25:50] rooting, you're in burgundy, I'm in blue, that's approximately like people started
[00:25:54] rooting for Sarajevo for Željezničar in the sense that political parties became part of
[00:25:58] identity, it's not like I ask, you're dressed in burgundy, what can I do.
[00:26:02] This is how it was in Bosnia and Herzegovina at one point, I stopped
[00:26:06] having even in Sarajevo people who consume media from only one
[00:26:10] single channel who invite only certain guests and then those guests tell one story
[00:26:13] then people somehow get politically radicalized,
[00:26:17] that happened in America, it is now at its peak, but that generation
[00:26:21] Z is not so much connected to news channels, it
[00:26:25] doesn't watch television at all, they eventually consume television
[00:26:28] from social networks in short
[00:26:31] clips." "but again, the production of those short clips
[00:26:35] is often related to people who are working on those news
[00:26:38] channels or used to work on news channels, for example, Tucker Carlson would never be such a
[00:26:42] big star if he hadn't worked at Fox News, objectively, you have people who
[00:26:45] are also left-leaning who used to work at CNN,
[00:26:49] MSNBC and other
[00:26:51] channels who now also through social media, YouTube and so on
[00:26:55] produce those news and produce short clips that then reach
[00:26:59] that young generation, while the older ones are still like us, so". They
[00:27:02] start with 37 cantonal news, the main news program, and
[00:27:06] end up with some 8:39
[00:27:09] late news, so there's that in America, those are people over 60, that's why the media
[00:27:13] today follows that line of
[00:27:16] thinking that what doesn't end up in the show will end up on a web portal or on some,
[00:27:19] it will extend its lifespan on some social media in order to make sure that all those segments
[00:27:23] of society watch what we, for example,
[00:27:26] are saying and talking about this morning, and it's also interesting for me to mention, when I was
[00:27:30] talking about your experience of living in America from 1994 when you
[00:27:34] went there, and now in this period, when you look at
[00:27:38] how much that relationship towards
[00:27:41] immigrants has changed, how people are treated today in
[00:27:44] America, and before, and today, who are part of
[00:27:48] the diaspora? Our experience is not relevant at all, so why do I
[00:27:51] claim that? Because uh, you know, you know why
[00:27:55] it's not relevant? Because we are, we are objectively Europeans, so we are white people,
[00:27:59] no one knows where you're from when they look at you, they don't know the difference between Eastern Europe and Southern Europe,
[00:28:03] therefore, we didn't have that kind of
[00:28:06] perception that many
[00:28:10] immigrants who come from countries, well, from Africa, from Asia and
[00:28:14] so on, who are not the majority white population, therefore, in
[00:28:18] that context, one must be objective, in that context, our experience was not
[00:28:22] uh, therefore, in one sense, negative, it was absolutely
[00:28:25] I mean, considering what America was like then and
[00:28:28] now, it was very positive, not at any single moment, I
[00:28:32] guarantee that none of our people who went to America, who, I mean, you have
[00:28:36] hundreds of thousands of our people, and I don't know how many we have in America, I, after all,
[00:28:40] still work in America, so never at any moment, from when we came there,
[00:28:43] we never felt like strangers, that's a fact, so in the sense that someone
[00:28:47] looks at you as a second-class citizen just because you are
[00:28:51] this, how I mean, so our experience in that context
[00:28:55] is objectively not relevant because we are, by our
[00:28:58] appearance, privileged, it's just like that. What could the outcome of these
[00:29:02] elections mean for Bosnia and Herzegovina, if many say that the House of Representatives is now
[00:29:06] considered lost for Republicans, and the Senate is
[00:29:09] most uncertain? What would divided government mean for Trump,
[00:29:12] and therefore also for everything that could consequently
[00:29:16] apply to Bosnia and Herzegovina? Well, it will certainly mean that
[00:29:20] part of the Bosnian-Herzegovinian
[00:29:23] political scene is in a very delicate situation,
[00:29:26] so the people who are, especially Dodik's people, but
[00:29:30] it can also be said freely that HDZ's people have closely tied themselves
[00:29:33] to Republicans, that right wing of the Republican
[00:29:36] party, so not to these moderate Republicans, but to
[00:29:39] MAGA, not just MAGA, but the right wing of MAGA, so we're talking about
[00:29:42] the Heritage Foundation, which is extremely close to both HDZ and SNSD, who
[00:29:46] have, mind you, talked about Bosniaks here
[00:29:50] and still talk about them today as some kind of
[00:29:54] foreign phenomenon, as if this isn't, we've always been here, this has always been ours,
[00:29:58] we're not some, you know, in that context, they put us in the same category as
[00:30:02] immigrants in Europe, I don't know, from Morocco, from these
[00:30:05] Afghanistan, Syria, and so on, people who came to live on
[00:30:09] this European soil, right, as if we are some foreign
[00:30:12] element, which is objectively ridiculous and comical, but mind you, in some circles
[00:30:16] it passed, that was the plan to present us like that in the context of that
[00:30:20] war between Israel and Palestine and the genocide
[00:30:24] in Gaza and everything that happened, so all of that was,
[00:30:27] I tried to put that noose around their neck. Now, given that
[00:30:31] Democrats will take the Senate, I think they will take the Senate, if I
[00:30:35] were to bet, I would bet on the Democrats taking the Senate significantly, with 54,
[00:30:38] maybe even 55 seats. This is what happens
[00:30:42] when they start with investigations, and they announced it, you saw several reports already which were
[00:30:46] while they were in the minority, the Democrats published, they announced
[00:30:50] that they would deal with investigations. The American
[00:30:53] Congress can conduct independent investigations where you come as
[00:30:57] a witness, you are under oath, you must.