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[00:00:00] some, you know, in context, they placed us as immigrants in
[00:00:03] Europe, I don't know, from Morocco, from from Afghanistan, Syria and so
[00:00:07] on, people who came to live on this
[00:00:10] European soil, right, as if we were some foreign
[00:00:13] element, which is objectively ridiculous and comical, but look, in some circles
[00:00:17] it passed, that was the plan to present us like that in the context of that war
[00:00:21] between Israel and Palestine
[00:00:24] and, right, the genocide in Gaza and everything that happened, so that's all
[00:00:27] tried to put a noose around our necks. Now,
[00:00:31] considering that the Democrats will take - the Senate, I think they will
[00:00:35] take the Senate, if I were a betting man, the Democrats will take the Senate, and significantly so, with
[00:00:38] 54, maybe even 55 votes,
[00:00:41] uh, what happens when they start investigations, and
[00:00:44] they announced it, you saw several reports already that were, while they were in the minority,
[00:00:48] uh, Democrats published, they announced that they would
[00:00:51] conduct investigations, the American
[00:00:54] Congress can conduct independent
[00:00:57] investigations where you come as must absolutely tell the truth, if you tell the truth,
[00:01:01] they catch you lying, you get five years, they announced investigations
[00:01:04] related to a series of these business
[00:01:07] ties of people close to Dodik in Serbia, in Albania, so
[00:01:11] there was a lot here,
[00:01:13] I don't know what about sanctions, President Trump will decide that, if there are these
[00:01:17] investigations, and then it turns out that new information is found during
[00:01:20] these investigations, that there were some relationships of people
[00:01:24] around Dodik with people around President Trump, and then he says, you know,
[00:01:28] these relationships are already surfacing, given...
[00:01:31] not only, well, on lobbying on projects, look, lobbying is legal, so these
[00:01:34] lobbying ties that are presented here as if they are, I don't know, they are
[00:01:38] legal ties, so people officially registered, if they don't register, that's another
[00:01:42] very transparently, you pay, you conclude a contract and you know what to expect, not only
[00:01:45] lobbying, they also received legal advice, you know who can lobby, well, anyone who
[00:01:49] registers can lobby, but the point is these business ties, that's a completely different
[00:01:53] topic, so in that case, it could happen to Mr. Dodik that he
[00:01:56] flew too close to the sun to be a politician.
[00:02:00] who is too much, so to become a political topic of the American
[00:02:04] election campaign where the Democrats are all against you, and the Republicans are a little
[00:02:08] ashamed of you, they are afraid of those ties, it's not exactly ideal,
[00:02:11] and he's going to Mar-a-Lago for that, I mean, I saw that he's trying to get
[00:02:15] to President Trump now to take a picture and so on, because look,
[00:02:19] Orban fell, Vučić fell,
[00:02:22] and Netanyahu seems to be falling, which I have to say is a surprise, but it seems that Eisenkot is taking power
[00:02:25] in Israel, then you know, Dodik
[00:02:29] was part of that network. He, unfortunately, won here in the
[00:02:33] elections, and unfortunately, Dodik and Čović have a majority in the presidency, which we will
[00:02:36] yet see how problematic that is for Bosnia and Herzegovina, how much it will, how much it will
[00:02:40] pain us from HDZ-SDA in the presidency for the first time, still,
[00:02:43] America is America, it can happen that Trump decides, you know, I'm giving
[00:02:47] you back the sanctions, or no, or look, it's '28, and '29, a Democratic
[00:02:51] president, I think it's very realistic to expect that the sanctions against Dodik will be reinstated,
[00:02:55] and that even some others will start to be
[00:02:58] considered that weren't before. On the agenda, changes are happening everywhere, only in Bosnia
[00:03:02] and Herzegovina, no? Well, there were changes in Bosnia and Herzegovina, how did they not happen to these new
[00:03:06] ones, right? Well, absolutely, that HDZ got better or worse? Well, changes
[00:03:10] happened, HDZ got it, for the first time we have HDZ in the presidency, for the first time, so
[00:03:13] I ask you, in your opinion, for better or worse? Absolutely for worse, so everyone
[00:03:17] who wants good for Bosnia and Herzegovina wants SNSD and HDZ in the presidency,
[00:03:21] that is, that is the basis of Bosnia and Herzegovina's politics, because the presidency is
[00:03:25] the most important body in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the presidency is the sovereign of Bosnia
[00:03:29] private ties with the president, given and Herzegovina, states are divided into what are states and what are not
[00:03:31] states by the fact that states have sovereigns, so someone who decides on behalf of that state
[00:03:35] in international forums, where other states gather, that is the presidency of Bosnia
[00:03:39] and Herzegovina, we handed over the presidency to SNZ, HDZ, we will see
[00:03:43] what, so, that is the people's decision, in my opinion, very
[00:03:46] dangerous, irresponsible and and a decision for the worse,
[00:03:50] if we put lobbying on one side, advocacy on the other, you just
[00:03:53] answered us in this conversation what one is and
[00:03:57] what the other is, who can and who cannot advocate or... lobby in this
[00:04:00] case, who advocates, or lobbies for Bosnia and Herzegovina. The Bosnian-Herzegovinian
[00:04:04] diaspora, in America, how much
[00:04:07] can it do on that advocacy
[00:04:11] front, how much , on the other hand, in your
[00:04:14] opinion, on the lobbying front, could
[00:04:17] more of those pro-Bosnian forces, even if
[00:04:20] they were business entities that are strong in Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:04:24] become interested in Bosnia and Herzegovina so that they actually
[00:04:28] enter the market.
[00:04:30] only on one "lobbying, well you asked the question of questions, that's
[00:04:33] the hardest question, because you see, I often said this on
[00:04:37] other televisions, however, that Bosnia and
[00:04:39] Herzegovina is the promised land for all of us, all
[00:04:43] of us who live in it, so if there were no Bosnia and Herzegovina, probably a good
[00:04:47] part of us would not have the social position we have, so don't, many of our
[00:04:51] rich people think that they would be rich if there were no Bosnia and Herzegovina, now to
[00:04:55] return, I don't know, for this not to be Bosnia and Herzegovina anymore, for some
[00:04:58] change to happen. to be part of some empire now, for it to take
[00:05:02] us, he thinks I will still be rich, I won't be rich, so that's an
[00:05:05] illusion, everyone here is successful only because Bosnia and Herzegovina is an independent and sovereign
[00:05:09] state, then you know, people earn so much money that. So we have
[00:05:12] people who have 100 million marks in profit annually,
[00:05:15] they don't give a gram or a mark for Bosnia and Herzegovina, but act
[00:05:19] as if they live there as if they simply are not related
[00:05:22] to it at all, so no one gives, let's not
[00:05:26] lie, no one, so this is not criticism only, I was critical of the troika,
[00:05:29] that's not disputed, but the troika is not the only one to blame for that, so no one before the troika spent
[00:05:33] money, not from state former coalitions,
[00:05:37] nor did anyone spend money in the sense, especially of the private sector,
[00:05:40] because there is simply no such awareness.
[00:05:42] "we have, and our diaspora in that sense is not much better, our diaspora
[00:05:46] gets involved in elections, well, I was part of those elections several
[00:05:50] times, I was on your television then it was live and so on, and so we
[00:05:54] had some influence, but you know what, that's opening doors, when you go through those doors,
[00:05:57] you have to know what it is that you came for, so
[00:06:00] we, we don't, as a nation, I have to be
[00:06:04] critical of ourselves as a nation, we as a nation have an awareness of democracy, because these are
[00:06:08] already 35 years that we are a democratic nation, we have a democratic state, which is a
[00:06:11] huge success. Our peoples, our people live in states that are
[00:06:15] democratic outside of Bosnia and Herzegovina, participate in those elections and run
[00:06:19] and vote and, but don't donate, neither do we donate as a state, nor
[00:06:22] do we donate as private firms that you just alluded to, openly
[00:06:26] said, excellent question, nor as individuals, so you have our rich
[00:06:29] doctors who earn one or two million annually, they will give for various things, for
[00:06:33] politics no, no, there simply isn't that awareness, we are not yet
[00:06:36] at that level of development, I have to be critical there, of political awareness
[00:06:40] as a nation and as individuals to do that. "Probably also distrust to such an extent
[00:06:44] that they simply don't think they have to do something, I'm sorry to interrupt you, I don't know
[00:06:48] about distrust, well you work, you see,
[00:06:51] 99% of relations in the United States
[00:06:54] take place at the level of private
[00:06:58] companies and what they do, so if you are, whom do you not trust,
[00:07:01] so if you are a private entrepreneur who has money and wants
[00:07:05] to do something, that's how serious lobbies work, so if you want to do something, you simply
[00:07:09] gather people, say I'm paying, you advocate for this because I believe in it." then someone who has hundreds of millions
[00:07:12] won't
[00:07:21] give a single mark, and earns money from Bosnia and Herzegovina, from Bosnia and
[00:07:25] Herzegovina, from people who love Bosnia and
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[00:10:24] We stay with... "domestic politics, political parties enter
[00:10:27] a new phase of negotiations on government formation, harmonizing future
[00:10:31] priorities of European integration, reform processes and relations with
[00:10:34] international partners will be among the key topics of the new political
[00:10:37] cycle. Although new coalition reshuffles are announced, the question
[00:10:41] remains how much they will bring changes in the functioning of the government and the progress
[00:10:45] of Bosnia and Herzegovina on the European path.
[00:10:48] Election results determined the new distribution of political
[00:10:52] forces, but the final composition of the government
[00:10:55] will depend on post-election negotiations. In the Party
[00:10:58] of Democratic Action, discussions on
[00:11:02] forming a new parliamentary majority are already announced. We will not shy away
[00:11:06] from negotiations and discussions with anyone, but, but
[00:11:09] I think things logically go in this direction that work is being done,
[00:11:13] that is, a coalition with parties that persistently resisted
[00:11:16] with us during this mandate, what
[00:11:20] the SDP and the troika were doing. How will the government be reshuffled
[00:11:22] or how will it, rather, be formed at the
[00:11:26] state level, it is truly difficult to
[00:11:28] prejudge, but if there is European
[00:11:32] readiness, that is, of all political actors
[00:11:35] who will participate in the government, uh, so, to
[00:11:38] adopt, as I previously said, laws on
[00:11:41] the European path, we want to participate
[00:11:45] in such a relationship. Special
[00:11:48] discussions are expected among political parties from
[00:11:52] Republika Srpska, especially after the president
[00:11:55] of SNSD, Milorad Dodik, called on the opposition
[00:11:58] for joint action at the state level. If
[00:12:02] anything has shown us what happened in
[00:12:05] Serbia, then it is that everyone
[00:12:09] here should finally understand that with a regime, you can only pursue
[00:12:12] a policy of either us or them. If you don't make
[00:12:16] a big, big change, uh,
[00:12:20] there are no changes. But we, together with coalition partners and in some other
[00:12:23] situations, "we can therefore also without PSS
[00:12:27] and without SDS, so that we have four delegates
[00:12:31] in the House of Peoples. The final distribution in the future government
[00:12:34] is not yet known, but interlocutors remind that
[00:12:37] the elections did not bring significant change in
[00:12:40] political actors, when he says that SDA needs
[00:12:44] a new Fadil Novalić, that is, Izredbegović refers
[00:12:47] to the fact that power should be taken over by people who have already
[00:12:50] been convicted of abuse of official position and authority and are therefore in
[00:12:54] prison. And if the future of Bosnia and Herzegovina is to be built in that way, or
[00:12:58] eventually reformed, then nothing will come of it. After these
[00:13:02] elections, we have no new political agenda
[00:13:05] nor a new political force that would bring something truly new to
[00:13:09] the political scene of Bosnia and Herzegovina. These political parties that will form
[00:13:13] the government have been present here for many years, practically decades
[00:13:17] with some pauses. In addition to domestic political relations,
[00:13:20] political developments in other countries could also affect
[00:13:23] the situation in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Analysts point to
[00:13:26] the weakening influence of certain international political
[00:13:30] actors who had close relations with political structures in
[00:13:33] Bosnia and Herzegovina in the previous period. The mere
[00:13:37] fact that the pressure of Orban's
[00:13:40] machinery, Vučić's machinery and what
[00:13:43] Israel under Netanyahu did, will be less on Bosnia and
[00:13:47] Herzegovina, can be a basis for
[00:13:49] some mild optimism regarding the uh...
[00:13:53] internal Bosnian-Herzegovinian relations. However, different circumstances
[00:13:56] in international relations do not necessarily mean easier achievement
[00:14:00] of agreement within Bosnia and Herzegovina. For
[00:14:03] progress on the European path and improvement of the functioning
[00:14:07] of institutions, further agreement of domestic politicians
[00:14:10] will be needed. Dragica Pejaković,
[00:14:14] N1.
[00:14:15] While political impasses regarding
[00:14:20] state property in Bosnia and Herzegovina continue, the American company AFS
[00:14:23] is working on a new feasibility study worth 10
[00:14:27] million dollars. The new gas pipeline route should, according
[00:14:30] to claims from this company, bypass the problem of state property
[00:14:33] by routing it over existing public infrastructure. The Federal Ministry
[00:14:37] of Energy states that they are not
[00:14:41] aware of these plans. In addition, the entire project is accompanied by political controversies in
[00:14:44] the United States.
[00:14:48] The American company EFS
[00:14:50] is rapidly working on a feasibility study for a new route. The South
[00:14:54] Interconnection gas pipeline, which the director of this company's branch in Bosnia and
[00:14:57] Herzegovina claims should bypass state property and thus solve the main
[00:15:01] problem of project implementation. Amer Bekan, in an interview with N1,
[00:15:04] says that the new project is necessary not only because of property, but also because of the ban
[00:15:08] on the company using the old BH gas project, which was
[00:15:12] financed by the European Union. We hired one of the largest companies in
[00:15:16] the world that is currently working on a new project
[00:15:19] New Feasibility Study.
[00:15:22] that, that project costs about
[00:15:25] 10 million dollars, we are currently working on a completely new
[00:15:28] project, the European Union which financed the majority
[00:15:32] of the South Interconnection project, did
[00:15:34] not agree that this project should be
[00:15:38] handed over to us, that is, that BH gas should hand it over to us
[00:15:42] and we are working on a completely new project, we are currently
[00:15:45] working on a variant, uh, on
[00:15:48] an option at all, uh,
[00:15:51] the law on the South, that is, the law on state
[00:15:54] property, uh, not to be a stumbling block to this project,
[00:15:58] that is, we are working on an alternative for which it will not
[00:16:01] be necessary to solve the issue of state property. In what way
[00:16:05] Bekan did not explain unofficially that existing
[00:16:08] infrastructure such as roads and paths, which are public
[00:16:11] goods, would be used. Following roads is a more expensive and longer variant, but for
[00:16:15] investors it apparently seems a more realistic option than
[00:16:18] waiting for a political solution to the issue of state
[00:16:21] property. The Federal Ministry of Energy is not aware
[00:16:24] that work is being done on an alternative solution. They previously emphasized
[00:16:28] that work is being done intensively on the agreement. The agreement itself
[00:16:31] does not specify the route, but the directions, so the feasibility
[00:16:34] study should not be an obstacle to the document
[00:16:38] that should soon be signed with the federal authorities, says
[00:16:41] Bekan. There are a few points left that we need to harmonize
[00:16:45] with BH legislation, uh, you must
[00:16:49] understand, I mean, the public must understand that this is ultimately
[00:16:52] not only about the South Interconnection, but a complete investment,
[00:16:56] uh, with a limit or, I would say, a framework of some two million,
[00:17:00] two billion euros, m such things must
[00:17:03] be checked, they must be
[00:17:06] harmonized. Because at one point, that investment must not be
[00:17:09] jeopardized. Let's remember that according to the Law on the South Interconnection, which the
[00:17:13] Federal Parliament adopted in April, domestic authorities and
[00:17:16] the investor were given one month to agree and sign a contract on
[00:17:20] the construction of the South Interconnection gas pipeline. The deadline
[00:17:23] expired in May. Alimir Bačarević comments that because
[00:17:27] of all the above, he does not believe that the works will start before
[00:17:30] 2030, if it ever happens.
[00:17:34] You know that statement by Mr. Lakić that the South Interconnection will be built
[00:17:37] in 2020, by the end of 2027, when there will be no more Russian gas
[00:17:41] in Europe. You know when it will be built by
[00:17:45] 2027? Never, it will not be built even by
[00:17:47] 2030, because how can you build
[00:17:51] 200 km of gas pipeline
[00:17:54] in one year? Well, that's impossible, you have no project, you have nothing, no permits,
[00:17:58] you have nothing, no expropriation, there are no, meaning
[00:18:01] there are no basic things. We asked Bekan, the American
[00:18:04] company has never commented on deadlines, he states, precisely because of the complexity
[00:18:08] of the project. When the new contract will be signed,
[00:18:12] the director of Energoinvest is not aware, but it is a
[00:18:15] strategic project that will ensure competitive gas prices
[00:18:18] and that is why it should be insisted upon. The question
[00:18:22] is what is too slow? I will tell you, for Krk, for example, as an LNG
[00:18:26] terminal, Croatia worked on that project for almost 10, 15 years.
[00:18:29] These are not projects that are solved in one year, in six months.
[00:18:33] There was a very strong pressure here to speed everything up, but the reality of those projects.
[00:18:37] Unfortunately, we are victims of inaction in the previous period. Also,
[00:18:41] let's remember that Democratic Congressman Bill Keating published, on September
[00:18:45] 15, with the support of his colleagues from the party, a report in which he questions
[00:18:48] American support for the AFS company
[00:18:52] in the South Interconnection project. The construction
[00:18:54] of the gas pipeline is not disputed, what is disputed is the investor's experience and his
[00:18:57] political ties with the current administration of Donald
[00:19:01] Trump. I believe that this happened exclusively because of their
[00:19:06] that there is absolutely no experience in managing gas pipelines
[00:19:10] of liquefied natural gas, nor experience in the Western
[00:19:13] Balkans. The State Department responded to the new allegations by stating
[00:19:17] that the concession model and the choice of the American company were
[00:19:20] sovereign decisions of the officials of the Federation of Bosnia and
[00:19:22] Herzegovina. A similar answer also came from
[00:19:25] the American investor. Tina Elindisdar
[00:19:29] N1.
[00:19:33] Bosnia and Herzegovina, which is again coming into focus, and with it
[00:19:36] the question of how ready the institutions are to respond to new
[00:19:40] challenges, while the police uncover smuggling networks,
[00:19:43] cities in the northwest of the country strive to maintain stability and avoid
[00:19:46] scenarios from earlier years.
[00:19:49] Bosnia and Herzegovina for most migrants is not a destination, but
[00:19:53] a path to the European Union, however, their number is growing.
[00:19:57] In the first three months of this year, 3,468
[00:20:00] migrants were registered,
[00:20:04] 66 percent more than last
[00:20:07] year. The number of illegal border crossings or
[00:20:10] attempts increased by 76%, mostly people from
[00:20:14] Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
[00:20:17] Bangladesh and Turkey. In reception centers, there were
[00:20:20] more than 900 people. In
[00:20:24] 2026, we have so far registered about
[00:20:27] 15,527 migrants,
[00:20:30] uh, as for 2025,
[00:20:34] that was around 10, 1835, so
[00:20:37] we can say that there has been a significant
[00:20:41] increase in
[00:20:44] mm arrivals of
[00:20:46] migrants in Bosnia and Herzegovina and the registration of our
[00:20:50] temporary reception centers, of which we currently have two, but
[00:20:53] smuggling remains one of the biggest challenges for
[00:20:57] the competent institutions. In mid-October, four
[00:21:01] people were arrested in Republika Srpska, suspected of
[00:21:04] smuggling 95 migrants towards the European
[00:21:08] Union. The arrested persons are suspected of having smuggled
[00:21:12] illegal migrants by hiding them in the cargo compartments of trucks
[00:21:16] together with legally transported goods. In this way,
[00:21:20] they illegally transferred them across the border with the Republic of Croatia
[00:21:23] further to the territory of other European Union countries, with Italy being
[00:21:27] the final destination. A few days later, in
[00:21:30] the area of Posušje, an illegal border crossing was prevented
[00:21:34] for 35 foreign nationals, among whom were
[00:21:37] 11 minors. From UNHCR,
[00:21:41] they warn that it is important to distinguish refugees and
[00:21:44] asylum seekers from economic
[00:21:47] migrants.
[00:21:50] that asylum seekers and refugees, i.e. those fleeing war,
[00:21:53] persecution and violence, can travel the same route, and even use
[00:21:57] the services of the same smugglers as economic migrants, but these are two
[00:22:01] completely different categories, they have
[00:22:04] different reasons for leaving, some are forced
[00:22:08] to flee while others choose to leave. Despite the increased
[00:22:11] number of arrivals, Bosnia and Herzegovina is not the final
[00:22:15] destination for most people on the move. The path towards
[00:22:18] the European Union continues. And local communities in
[00:22:21] the northwest of the country, which were among the most burdened
[00:22:25] during the migrant crisis, today record a different situation, despite these larger
[00:22:29] numbers, it is much easier for us,
[00:22:33] more bearable, because of the fact that
[00:22:36] mostly, uh, people on the move
[00:22:39] who pass through Bihać come to
[00:22:42] the Lipa camp, stay there briefly and continue their
[00:22:46] journey further towards the European Union. six or seven years ago there was
[00:22:50] chaos in the Una-Sana Canton, over 100,000 migrants
[00:22:53] passed through several municipalities of our canton, and it
[00:22:56] was quite uncontrolled and chaotic
[00:22:59] situation, uh, the solution, of course, to that
[00:23:03] challenge is that, uh, the state,
[00:23:06] the institutions of the state that have direct competencies,
[00:23:09] do what is expected of them, while institutions try
[00:23:13] to keep migration under control, the challenge remains
[00:23:16] the same: how to respond to the increasing number of arrivals,
[00:23:20] while simultaneously ensuring security and a humane approach
[00:23:23] to people on the move. Dragica
[00:23:26] Pejaković, N1." The Despić House in Sarajevo was the