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[00:00:21] Good day to you, welcome to News Room. Tectonic political changes
[00:00:24] in the world, Trump defeated and Orban's defeat is now reflected in
[00:00:28] Bosnia and Herzegovina. We are dealing with domestic issues, with a focus on
[00:00:32] the position of health workers. Our reporters bring the most important information from
[00:00:36] the state of the world. Stay with
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[00:00:45] In front of the Sarajevo Canton Government building today, health workers gathered,
[00:00:48] dissatisfied with, as they state, the unequal treatment of employees in
[00:00:51] the health system and the decision to approve an increase in coefficients
[00:00:55] for doctors of medicine and dentistry, while other
[00:00:58] employees demand equal access to salary increases. During
[00:01:02] the protest, the Minister of Health of Sarajevo Canton Enis Hasanović addressed
[00:01:05] the media in the government building. First of all, this is a process that has been ongoing since
[00:01:09] April. The union of employees in
[00:01:13] healthcare submitted a request, it is very
[00:01:16] important to say that all of them, all three unions, all workers have a valid
[00:01:19] collective agreement that lasts until April 1, 2027,
[00:01:23] until April, I don't know if it's until the first, and uh, where
[00:01:27] all rights from the collective agreement were respected, we didn't... we had to
[00:01:30] enter into negotiations for amendments to the collective agreement,
[00:01:33] however, the union insisted, despite, I repeat,
[00:01:37] all conditions being met, we started negotiations with that union,
[00:01:41] soon after them, after 10, 15 days, the other two unions
[00:01:44] submitted a request for conducting negotiations on
[00:01:48] amendments to the collective agreement, we with the union of workers in
[00:01:51] healthcare through the negotiating team of the Sarajevo Canton
[00:01:54] government and through negotiations with
[00:01:57] the HIIO, through the participation of the HIIO.
[00:02:01] colloquially speaking, we squeezed the maximum out of the HIIO's financial
[00:02:04] plan for this year by reallocating funds,
[00:02:07] what could be done so that it would be from June 1
[00:02:11] of this year for the amendments to be made, we increased
[00:02:13] the hourly rate, the second important demand of the union of health workers
[00:02:17] was the equalization of uh
[00:02:19] rights for 0.1 after 10 years of service for all categories that did not
[00:02:23] have it, and previously from some previous government it was
[00:02:27] agreed before me and was in the collective
[00:02:30] agreement that only nurses doctors and specialists have it, we met
[00:02:34] them halfway, equalized everyone, all workers
[00:02:38] who did not have it, meaning all others, all workers employed in
[00:02:41] healthcare received 0.1 from
[00:02:44] the first for 10 years of service from January 1.
[00:02:48] June, my request, not
[00:02:50] the union's, so that even those who already had 0.1 would feel it,
[00:02:54] and everyone else, I think, deserves it, health workers with 10
[00:02:58] or more years of service. some security in their mature years
[00:03:02] and later a reward for their good work, I
[00:03:05] asked for and we got another 0.1 for 10 years of
[00:03:09] service, but due to the financial situation in the HIIO, we could
[00:03:12] not fulfill it from June 1, but in the next financial year, i.e. from January 1.
[00:03:16] January 27. which means all
[00:03:19] workers in healthcare from January 1 who have 10 years
[00:03:22] plus of service will receive without exception another 0.1 for
[00:03:26] 10 years of service. What happened is that they did not agree to those...
[00:03:30] "conditions of the other two unions, we unfortunately have such a situation in Sarajevo
[00:03:34] Canton that we have three unions with whom we negotiate and the entire mandate
[00:03:38] passes into negotiations with the unions
[00:03:41] where they are always against each other, where they have uh no
[00:03:45] understanding for each other, where the biggest problem is who signs, not what
[00:03:48] is signed, that is the biggest problem whether one union signed or
[00:03:52] the second or the third, we did not reach an agreement
[00:03:56] with them and it was clearly told to the union of health workers and others that we..."
[00:04:00] "will not change anyone's coefficients in the current year,
[00:04:03] existing amendments to the collective agreement imply only
[00:04:07] the hourly rate, however, we were unable to reach an agreement, we went into a conciliation
[00:04:10] process, which is some legal, natural
[00:04:14] consequence of unsuccessful negotiations, where I negotiated
[00:04:17] on behalf of the Sarajevo Canton government and we did not reach
[00:04:21] an agreement there, but the pre-election campaign was close, I absolutely
[00:04:25] did not want to politicize that process under
[00:04:28] pressure, because from the beginning we were on the side of healthcare workers, all employees in
[00:04:31] healthcare, we insisted and froze,
[00:04:35] interrupted the conciliation processes with both unions that we will
[00:04:39] continue after the elections without that political note, without
[00:04:43] someone gaining or losing points or so, they
[00:04:46] agreed, what happened now after the elections with
[00:04:50] the union of doctors who exclusively represent
[00:04:53] doctors, who only asked for rights for their members, for
[00:04:57] doctors when they say that we only gave it to them, that's what they demand, they
[00:05:00] represent doctors, we reached an agreement to
[00:05:04] increase their coefficient by 0.3.
[00:05:07] Therefore, from last night I have data, we have equalized the coefficients of doctors
[00:05:11] in Sarajevo Canton. "with most cantons,
[00:05:14] mostly now we have equal coefficients in Sarajevo as in
[00:05:18] other cantons, apart from the fact that in Sarajevo everyone, both doctors and all others,
[00:05:22] have a much higher hourly rate, so they have higher incomes, but we have also equalized
[00:05:26] some basic professional rights, that was the exclusive
[00:05:29] demand of doctors, uh, without that we would go into
[00:05:32] a strike and everything that follows and we have
[00:05:35] equalized their, well, coefficients with other
[00:05:38] cantons, why didn't we sign with the nurses, because that..."
[00:05:42] "union of health workers submitted a request to investigate
[00:05:45] representativeness, they lost it, otherwise the conciliation
[00:05:49] process with the union of uh medical
[00:05:52] nurses and technicians would have been brought to an end, a certain
[00:05:55] agreement for an increase in coefficients would have been signed, but that is technically not possible because they do not have
[00:05:59] representativeness, uh, what is the difference from
[00:06:03] that, it all goes from January 1, not in this financial year,
[00:06:06] that's why it is important to emphasize that the story that we will not increase
[00:06:10] anyone's coefficients this year, we haven't increased
[00:06:13] it. It all starts from January 1 and all
[00:06:16] healthcare workers, meaning all other health workers
[00:06:20] who are really important, we cannot separate them in
[00:06:24] that sense, the health system cannot function with one without
[00:06:27] the other, people without one or the other, people
[00:06:31] go to the doctor, whenever someone goes to the health system they say they go
[00:06:35] to the doctor, but the doctor cannot work alone and we have absolutely
[00:06:38] shown so far that we have increased everyone's
[00:06:42] and we support it in the next year. Of course, they are
[00:06:44] starting, finishing the collective agreement, negotiations for a new collective
[00:06:48] agreement are starting, all three unions will conduct negotiations and what was
[00:06:52] said to the presidents of all three unions, sometime last summer,
[00:06:55] June and July, in all future negotiations we will work on
[00:06:58] coefficients, increasing coefficients and no
[00:07:00] longer the hourly rate, because through the hourly rate some
[00:07:04] injustices were not corrected, for example, some doctors in primary
[00:07:07] healthcare have a higher salary than
[00:07:10] others, some nurses were not well recognized, some other
[00:07:14] staff, everyone agreed in the future, because we have a very high
[00:07:18] hourly rate, especially when compared to civil servants and all others, that from
[00:07:22] now on we will go with an increase in coefficients and we
[00:07:25] will absolutely go in that direction, increasing coefficients
[00:07:28] in accordance with the agreement, with demands or with needs,
[00:07:32] uh, so far I have data from last night, that is what
[00:07:36] the doctors said, that they received the smallest percentage, mostly everyone
[00:07:40] in this mandate received an increase of somewhere between 50 and
[00:07:43] 60%, and the lowest categories with the lowest
[00:07:47] incomes somewhere around 80%, taking into account
[00:07:50] the increase in the minimum wage that they did not have and this coefficient
[00:07:54] of 0.2 for 10 or more years of service which will be from January 1,
[00:07:57] we absolutely support it, we have shown and
[00:08:01] I will show all workers in
[00:08:03] healthcare and all healthcare workers and uh
[00:08:07] but we also demand, of course, and we have always demanded that they show it through
[00:08:11] satisfaction they have. the highest salary growth of all other
[00:08:14] categories in Sarajevo Canton, that they show it and
[00:08:17] through their attitude towards patients and towards all others. Yes, we will support
[00:08:21] their demands, but there is no discrimination here, we signed with
[00:08:25] one professional union that represents
[00:08:28] exclusively that category with the nurses we signed for the nurses,
[00:08:31] with this general union we sign for everyone, which is what we did. So far,
[00:08:35] all amendments and all, all collective agreements and all amendments were
[00:08:38] signed with the union of workers
[00:08:40] employed in healthcare and I think they really should be satisfied because we have
[00:08:44] increased their salaries all the time we will continue with that, meaning
[00:08:48] you will fulfill these demands of theirs now that they are asking for an increase
[00:08:51] in coefficients and salaries, these other health representatives
[00:08:54] or now I told you, we go through new negotiations,
[00:08:58] they have finished the process of amending
[00:09:00] the valid collective agreement from June 1, they have
[00:09:04] signed that, that is a finished matter now, we have continued with the other
[00:09:07] two unions, we have not reached an agreement so far, now they have agreed to what
[00:09:11] they already have. signed on June 1 for the new collective agreement
[00:09:15] new amendments and we received their request which we will submit to the government to
[00:09:19] go into new amendments, all that to submit today, now there is a government
[00:09:23] session, but that will go through negotiations, this was a conciliation
[00:09:26] process from some negotiations that started in
[00:09:28] April.
[00:09:30] Good day, well, as you heard, the minister confirmed everything we
[00:09:34] presented these days, what we presented is
[00:09:37] true, he confirmed that we will go for an increase
[00:09:41] from January 1. "for all employees in healthcare coefficients, so
[00:09:45] here, in this part, now
[00:09:47] we need to hold on, we need to persevere, we have
[00:09:51] decided anyway that next week we will hold a protest march where
[00:09:55] many more of our union members
[00:09:58] will come out, simply we want
[00:10:01] today our
[00:10:04] collective agreement to include what was signed
[00:10:08] with the Union of Doctors of Medicine and Dentistry so that
[00:10:11] our members would have this right that has been introduced,
[00:10:15] because masters of pharmacy who belong to the group of doctors
[00:10:18] in this case cannot get that increase for
[00:10:22] the reason of not signing mm...
[00:10:25] an identical text with our negotiating
[00:10:28] team, so what bothered me the most is that we
[00:10:32] had a correct story from the very beginning
[00:10:35] of negotiations for amendments to the collective agreement for the reason that we
[00:10:39] allocated the maximum funds for health insurance
[00:10:42] for salary increases, then that agreement appeared which
[00:10:45] doctors of medicine and dentistry signed through conciliation,
[00:10:49] of course we support the increase, of course everyone should
[00:10:52] get an increase in Sarajevo Canton, this,
[00:10:56] because the consumer baskets are huge,
[00:10:59] so, we'll see what happens next,
[00:11:03] the stance of the main board is to go all the way, we are ready for
[00:11:06] every union step, for the
[00:11:09] satisfaction of all employees in healthcare, not just one group
[00:11:12] of job complexity, today the government should make a decision
[00:11:16] to agree to new negotiations for a new collective agreement,
[00:11:19] also to support what the minister said, that our
[00:11:23] collective agreement should be included. What has been negotiated with the professional collective
[00:11:27] agreement and also, as they did with their
[00:11:30] amendment, mm included all that was
[00:11:33] negotiated, that is the hourly rate, the addition after 10 years
[00:11:37] remaining, that it should be an identical text and
[00:11:41] what will happen if the government does not support it, what are you
[00:11:45] prepared to do next, what are the steps, absolutely no, I have no, no doubt
[00:11:49] that it will not support it, the government must support it, we are a serious
[00:11:52] union that has a large number of members. who will certainly
[00:11:56] follow all legal steps and procedures and take further
[00:11:59] steps to make it happen, there will be
[00:12:02] absolutely no demands at this moment,
[00:12:05] I am also very sorry
[00:12:08] that the minister made some decisions and did not
[00:12:12] consult with the health insurance institute because we had an
[00:12:16] open discussion this when we were negotiating for these
[00:12:19] amendments, we will certainly not give up, next week there will be
[00:12:23] a protest march, probably and a blockade of
[00:12:25] roads, I hereby
[00:12:28] call on the citizens of the canton for
[00:12:30] understanding, but we as a union are trying with all our might
[00:12:34] with the competent ministry to do something and
[00:12:38] to simply make that service better, however, they must
[00:12:41] give us space in every aspect.
[00:12:45] The Hungarian government has suspended
[00:12:53] the financing of the program for the purchase of agricultural machinery for
[00:12:56] farmers from Republika Srpska. This program was part of
[00:12:59] an aid package worth 100 million euros announced
[00:13:02] in 2022. In cooperation between the then Prime Minister of Hungary
[00:13:06] Viktor Orban and the leader of SNSD Milorad Dodik. The Foundation for
[00:13:09] Sustainable Development, through which the program was implemented, announced that it
[00:13:13] is suspending the implementation of the public call for 2026. And
[00:13:17] after the new Hungarian government stopped
[00:13:20] financing. The new elections. progress of Bosnia and
[00:13:24] Herzegovina brings worrying news. We are moving away from the European
[00:13:28] path, standards and funds. While domestic
[00:13:31] actors continue to spin in circles of political blockades, recognition comes from Brussels that
[00:13:34] the usual instruments no longer work for our country. What is
[00:13:38] next for us? The head of the European delegation
[00:13:42] also officially submitted a new report on Bosnia and Herzegovina to the chairperson
[00:13:45] of the Council of Ministers. She had nothing to brag about, probably
[00:13:49] that's why we were left without a statement. That's why the ambassador
[00:13:52] was ready. said: you are moving away from the European path, European
[00:13:56] standards, but European money, he
[00:13:59] said.
[00:14:00] Essentially, this was a lost year in
[00:14:03] terms of tangible progress. The overall picture shows that Bosnia and Herzegovina
[00:14:07] is missing key opportunities and lagging behind its neighbors. Above all, it is necessary
[00:14:11] to eliminate what we call fundamental issues, these are
[00:14:15] the judiciary, the fight against corruption, freedom of expression.
[00:14:18] If the domestic authorities do not meet the necessary conditions for the implementation
[00:14:22] of the plan by the end of the year. of growth for the Western
[00:14:26] Balkans, they will face new reductions in funds from the European
[00:14:29] Union.
[00:14:33] A similar message comes from Brussels. Among the countries of the Western Balkans, Bosnia and
[00:14:37] Herzegovina is the worst. Serbia at least has a chance with a new government
[00:14:40] to change course. Bosnia and Herzegovina
[00:14:43] with difficulty.
[00:14:47] In this country, there is an increasing distancing from the European path.
[00:14:51] Key reforms related to the European Union still need to be adopted, because... The work
[00:14:55] of the executive and legislative authorities is further slowed down by the lack of a functional
[00:14:58] ruling coalition, political posturing, and the rise of inflammatory rhetoric
[00:15:02] and anti-European narratives ahead of the general elections. After
[00:15:06] the general elections held on October 4, Bosnia and Herzegovina should
[00:15:09] show commitment and quickly take appropriate
[00:15:13] steps to progress on the path towards the European
[00:15:16] Union. What are the priorities? We don't have a chief
[00:15:19] negotiator, we don't have an adopted law on the court, we don't have a law on
[00:15:23] the HJPC, Uh, we haven't appointed any
[00:15:27] coordinators for monitoring funds from the growth plan,
[00:15:30] we haven't brought anything to a conclusion when it comes to signing
[00:15:33] agreements on instruments on payment instruments, financing from
[00:15:37] the growth plan. Therefore, if we talk about European
[00:15:40] integration, it is certain that Bosnia and Herzegovina is unfortunately at
[00:15:44] the bottom of the region, that is, in some last place, that
[00:15:48] is only part of what opens the way, that Bosnia and Herzegovina will hardly
[00:15:51] return to it, the last statements of Milorad Dodik, whose party is recognized as one that
[00:15:55] blocks, also testify to this. Relations should be redefined with the European Union,
[00:15:59] he said, analysts warned, it doesn't work
[00:16:02] that way. We are not primarily against the European path.
[00:16:05] "but we are not for imposing
[00:16:09] policies on us that degrade
[00:16:12] and devastate Republika
[00:16:15] Srpska, uh, so, we participated in all of
[00:16:19] that before, we know that they are now insisting that
[00:16:22] some laws be put on the agenda again, we can talk about
[00:16:26] that, if it satisfies our
[00:16:29] positions, when it comes to European integration, Bosnia and
[00:16:32] Herzegovina is exclusively required to negotiate with one
[00:16:36] voice that certain areas should be harmonized
[00:16:39] so that decisions for those areas are made
[00:16:43] at state institutions, it is not possible
[00:16:47] for the entity of Republika Srpska as one of the two Bosnian-Herzegovinian
[00:16:50] entities within Bosnia and Herzegovina to have some
[00:16:53] excessive demands in order to have some mechanisms
[00:16:57] for negotiation in the negotiation process with the European
[00:17:00] Union itself. Answering the question of European parliamentarians, Marta Kost today
[00:17:04] said that it is obvious that for Bosnia and Herzegovina a new
[00:17:07] approach is needed, because the existing methodology, that is,
[00:17:10] financial instruments do not yield results.
[00:17:14] She also emphasized that the appointment of a negotiator must
[00:17:18] not be an obstacle to the country's progress. So,
[00:17:21] we remain in anticipation of a new approach. Tina
[00:17:24] Jalindizdar, N1.
[00:17:28] Bad grades from Brussels arrive at a time when Bosnia and Herzegovina is entering
[00:17:31] a new phase of political calculations. The Central Election
[00:17:34] Commission confirmed the final results of the general elections. thus
[00:17:38] opening the way for the formation of government from cantonal to state
[00:17:41] level. The deadline for the constitution of government at all
[00:17:44] levels is officially running. The constitutive session of the new convocation
[00:17:48] of the Joint Doboj Canton Assembly should be held within the next 15
[00:17:52] days, the ruling coalition in the assembly will, according to announcements, consist of
[00:17:55] SDA, Party for BiH, DF, i.e. GS and HDZ
[00:17:59] BiH. The Prime Minister's position again belongs to the SDA, which won the most
[00:18:03] mandates in six cantons in the federation. A complete recomposition
[00:18:06] was experienced by... the political majority in the Bihać City Council, after
[00:18:10] the agreement between Pomak and SDA, a new parliamentary majority was formed
[00:18:13] which, in addition to these two parties, also includes SBIH. Therefore, it is expected
[00:18:17] that the same political parties could participate in the formation
[00:18:21] of government at the level of Una-Sana Canton and the Federation of Bosnia and
[00:18:24] Herzegovina. After the Central Election Commission issues certificates,
[00:18:27] within 10 days, the session of the Assembly of
[00:18:30] Bosnian-Podrinje Canton will also be constituted. The government will be formed by nine parties, and
[00:18:34] led by the SDA. The first meeting after the official announcement of election
[00:18:38] results was held by delegations of SD, DF and SBI,
[00:18:41] stating that they want to build the future government at the state, federal and cantonal levels without the trio.
[00:18:45] The establishment of a new parliamentary majority
[00:18:48] at all levels is only possible with
[00:18:51] parties that were in opposition in the 2022-
[00:18:54] 26 mandate. SDP,
[00:18:57] BiH will not be an appendage of SDA or any other political party,
[00:19:01] it will only enter government as an equal political partner, says the head
[00:19:04] of this party and the Prime Minister. of the federation, we have our election results, we will stick
[00:19:08] to our election results, if there are
[00:19:12] partners who want to form a government with
[00:19:15] the SDP, then that government will be
[00:19:19] established and we will participate in it as an equal partner.
[00:19:22] However, for SNSD leader Milorad Dodik, there is no
[00:19:26] place in the state government for the Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina. He conditioned
[00:19:29] his party's participation at the level of Bosnia and Herzegovina on the reform of
[00:19:33] the Constitutional Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina and the revision of decisions of high
[00:19:37] representatives. We reject the practice. of the Constitutional Court in
[00:19:40] the last 10 years, which was not a constitutional court, it was
[00:19:43] an inquisitorial court, we cannot continue to work at the level of Bosnia and
[00:19:47] Herzegovina with foreign judges in the Constitutional Court. Although it is
[00:19:51] still unknown which parties will join them, it is certain that the role of
[00:19:54] SNSD, SDA and HDZ in forming the state government in
[00:19:58] accordance with the election results will be dominant. Everything
[00:20:01] else is in question, as we know, I mean, we had this
[00:20:04] situation before where we had different. coalitions at
[00:20:08] different levels, uh, I mean, in
[00:20:11] the federation it will also be quite difficult
[00:20:14] to form this ruling coalition without the SDP
[00:20:18] that the intensification of negotiations will be continued especially after
[00:20:21] the official announcement of the results of the general elections by the Central Election
[00:20:25] Commission of Bosnia and Herzegovina, announced earlier the leader
[00:20:28] of HDZ Bosnia and Herzegovina Dragan Čović. He said that a meeting of the election
[00:20:32] winners could follow after the official announcement,
[00:20:35] referring to representatives of SDA, his party and
[00:20:39] SNSD. Tatjana Drljić,
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[00:24:47] Deminers in Bosnia and Herzegovina, although they do one of... of the most difficult, most dangerous
[00:24:51] jobs, still have no privileges. The new draft law
[00:24:55] was not submitted to the session of the Council of Ministers of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the necessary opinions
[00:24:58] on the draft law have been submitted, according to the response to N1 from the Ministry
[00:25:02] of Civil Affairs. Except for the opinion of the Ministry of Finance and Treasury
[00:25:06] of BiH. They point out that the Government of the Federation of BiH and the Government of Brčko District
[00:25:09] in their opinions on the draft law had no objections to
[00:25:13] the foreseen allocation of at least 0.2% of budget
[00:25:16] funds from their budgets. While the Ministry
[00:25:19] of Finance of the Republic of Srpska does not find it acceptable to determine the amount of funds for demining
[00:25:23] by percentage.
[00:25:25] The new law brings modernization
[00:25:27] of terminology and the professional framework of anti-mine action,
[00:25:31] by introducing modern concepts, additional regulation of areas that were not
[00:25:34] sufficiently covered by the existing law. The solutions from
[00:25:38] the draft are based on international standards for anti-mine
[00:25:42] action, which are continuously developed and updated. In Bosnia
[00:25:45] and Herzegovina, based on existing laws. Domestic standards
[00:25:49] and standard operating procedures that BHMac prepares
[00:25:52] and updates have already been developed, the new legal framework should
[00:25:56] further improve their application and ensure the harmonization
[00:25:59] of the entire system with international
[00:26:03] standards. Therefore, it is about comprehensive regulation of the area
[00:26:07] of anti-mine action with a special emphasis on sustainable financing,
[00:26:11] protection and rights of persons who perform risky jobs
[00:26:14] and modernization of the system in accordance with international standards.
[00:26:18] The expected results of the application of new legal solutions are the
[00:26:21] creation of more stable institutional and financial
[00:26:24] assumptions for accelerating demining, more efficient
[00:26:28] achievement of the goal of Bosnia and Herzegovina to become a country
[00:26:31] free of mine danger.
[00:26:34] In Bosnia and Herzegovina, demining is not recognized as a profession of
[00:26:38] special public interest, high risk and exceptional social
[00:26:42] importance. In the last two years, deminers have been massively losing their jobs
[00:26:46] because foreign donors have withdrawn. How this
[00:26:49] legal unregulatedness affects deminers, we will discuss
[00:26:52] with Slavenko Jovović, who, you won't
[00:26:55] believe, has as many as 41 years of service, and cannot
[00:26:59] retire. Slavenko, good day and thank you for speaking to N1. Yes. Good
[00:27:02] day, thank you for the invitation, greetings to your viewers. We talked
[00:27:06] about eight months ago when it was most relevant, that is,
[00:27:09] the withdrawal of foreign investors. You then
[00:27:12] told us exactly this information, that is, 41 years of service, you cannot
[00:27:16] retire, before you answer us why and
[00:27:20] how it happened, what happened in these eight months, anything? Well, concretely,
[00:27:23] nothing, for 30 years we have the same problem
[00:27:27] in demining, the basic problems, two problems.
[00:27:31] Key donations, because we live
[00:27:34] exclusively from donations, so that deminers in Bosnia and Herzegovina, service
[00:27:38] years, connecting service years, paying benefits,
[00:27:41] these are two burning problems that we've been circling for 30 years,
[00:27:45] in a circle. Your compensated service years have been paid, but
[00:27:48] for many they haven't. Yes, yes, I was lucky that I worked for
[00:27:52] three, three companies, so to speak, during my working life, from the Army of Republika
[00:27:56] Srpska and the Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina when they
[00:27:59] united, I continued one. in stop mines
[00:28:02] and in Norwegian People's Aid, all three companies, meaning
[00:28:05] four, well, let's call the army,
[00:28:08] since we united together, we all
[00:28:11] paid regular service years and benefits, meaning
[00:28:14] I didn't have to chase through court or anyone
[00:28:17] else for a single day. Why can't you then retire? I can't retire
[00:28:21] because the law of Republika Srpska does not
[00:28:25] recognize the profession of a deminer, meaning I have
[00:28:27] service years, paid benefits, and all that. It stands,
[00:28:31] but you need years of life, years of age already, that is, 57
[00:28:35] years, that's right, 57 years, I already have eight years
[00:28:38] of benefits, from my 65 years,
[00:28:41] when that is taken into account, that benefit is deducted retroactively
[00:28:44] and that's it. That's why this law is important, if
[00:28:48] it were adopted, if it were adopted, you would already be retired,
[00:28:52] in retirement, you would have a good pension, because this law precisely provides for taking these best
[00:28:56] years, so I think, I hope
[00:28:59] again that all three
[00:29:03] governments, both the Government of Republika Srpska and the Government of the Federation, the Government
[00:29:06] of Brčko District, will find a way to somehow
[00:29:09] rectify this injustice that has been done to deminers for 30 years, because
[00:29:12] this law would mean a lot for everyone, for all deminers in Bosnia and
[00:29:16] Herzegovina, excluding me now to speak only for myself, let's
[00:29:19] say you essentially, we'll say you did well when it comes to
[00:29:23] this beneficial service, because it was paid, but can you give us some examples, you don't
[00:29:27] have to mention names of everything that people
[00:29:31] went through? What did people go through, how many years did they work and
[00:29:35] how much was paid to them? Well, you see,
[00:29:37] you have a problem, there were many different companies,
[00:29:41] here in Bosnia and Herzegovina that operated, you have people
[00:29:44] who worked for 30 years since '96 who work
[00:29:47] as deminers, spent their working life
[00:29:50] demining, maybe they have now 15, 20 years of service,
[00:29:54] then people have to go through courts,
[00:29:57] they have to ask those companies to pay them in various
[00:30:01] ways and "This job is difficult, perhaps among the most difficult
[00:30:05] jobs in Bosnia and Herzegovina to have someone to do, hmm, what
[00:30:08] I want to say, I want this
[00:30:11] deminer, first you must be physically and mentally
[00:30:15] capable for this work in order to work, not
[00:30:18] plus to have some other problems, whether your service years will be paid, whether we will
[00:30:22] pay benefits, whether you have to wait, because these are people who go
[00:30:25] to the field for 30 years, you are separated from
[00:30:28] your family, you go for 12, 15 days, you work on..."
[00:30:32] one and such things, you experienced losses
[00:30:36] during your career, you saw all that with your own eyes, 20, 30
[00:30:40] years of such work, well, that's essentially it, but we're still circling around the
[00:30:43] same problems, 30 years, so the essence is that, at the
[00:30:47] core, all the problems are the same, after 20 years in the field, some
[00:30:51] are now in a situation due to layoffs, due to everything, in their
[00:30:54] 50s they practically start from scratch, to try to get
[00:30:58] a job anywhere now.