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[00:00:00] three to four degrees warmer than the average values we
[00:00:04] had before, a large amount of heat has
[00:00:08] accumulated in the Pacific where El
[00:00:11] Nino started, which will affect our weather, but
[00:00:15] not yet, it will affect us in about
[00:00:18] three or four months, meaning late
[00:00:22] autumn, early winter is when El Nino,
[00:00:25] El Nino will affect Europe, it will first
[00:00:28] start affecting the Pacific. in Indo,
[00:00:32] China, Japan, and by the time it moves to America,
[00:00:35] its effect is gradual, it
[00:00:38] is, it is a process in the atmosphere that takes place, and what
[00:00:42] are its effects, for example, when it comes to us, the effects for
[00:00:46] us will be that it will be warmer, and uh,
[00:00:49] all numerical models of medium-range
[00:00:53] and long-range weather forecasts already feel
[00:00:56] that physical impulse that is coming. from
[00:01:00] warm air, or from the increase
[00:01:03] in temperature, which is associated with the increase
[00:01:06] in temperature due to El Nino, mhm, so we expect that
[00:01:10] by the end of the year the
[00:01:13] weather will remain warmer than usual, meaning
[00:01:17] with temperatures up to 1.5 to 3 degrees
[00:01:20] higher than what is usual,
[00:01:24] meaning we can expect a long warm autumn and
[00:01:27] a mild start to winter regarding temperature, but
[00:01:32] today's topics, now we move on to regarding precipitation, the models are quite varied, namely
[00:01:36] the model results, we calculate so-called
[00:01:40] ensemble forecasts where the same model is run
[00:01:43] 50 times 50 times, but with different
[00:01:46] initial conditions, mhm, if the initial
[00:01:49] conditions change, then the model outputs are also different, so
[00:01:53] then we look at how much deviation there is when
[00:01:56] something changes in the initial conditions, there is a
[00:02:00] fairly large deviation in the precipitation system,
[00:02:03] so the problem is actually in the Mediterranean Sea,
[00:02:07] we then return to, suddenly from the global, we have to return
[00:02:11] to a lower scale, as I had a question for you about the Mediterranean, to a lower scale, to a lower
[00:02:15] scale, namely when you look at the climate overall, then you have more, you have
[00:02:19] different scales of action that affect the weather
[00:02:22] here, because what we see as weather is something
[00:02:26] that in our synoptic dimensions, a one-day forecast, that's it.
[00:02:30] That's the weather forecast for one to seven days, that's
[00:02:33] synoptics, above that we already come to
[00:02:36] a medium-range weather forecast which is valid for about 12
[00:02:40] days, but there we already have to look at the whole of Europe, the Northern
[00:02:43] Hemisphere, when we move to climate modeling
[00:02:47] for periods of six months, then
[00:02:51] we have to consider the entire Earth globally with all
[00:02:54] its weather systems that are currently on
[00:02:57] Earth, and then we simulate how that would
[00:03:01] unfold over time, what happens with that
[00:03:05] amount of energy we have in the system. Now the problem with autumn
[00:03:09] is that the Mediterranean is very
[00:03:11] warm, a warm Mediterranean can
[00:03:14] cause uh rapid occurrences of shallow
[00:03:18] cyclones that occur either in the Gulf of Genoa or
[00:03:22] occur in the very west of the Mediterranean Sea and quickly move
[00:03:26] across the Mediterranean towards the east, or there is the
[00:03:29] formation of shallow cyclones
[00:03:32] over Northern Italy and they descend along
[00:03:35] the Adriatic, cyclones are then associated with
[00:03:39] precipitation here, so that's why there are
[00:03:43] large oscillations in the forecast of the amount
[00:03:46] of precipitation itself, meaning we will definitely have
[00:03:49] precipitation, it will not be extreme, it will be
[00:03:53] normal, but the question is when and how, so
[00:03:56] we can expect a pleasant, warm
[00:04:00] autumn, which can be rainy, which can be
[00:04:03] how will he locally accompanied by strong tropical
[00:04:07] downpours of tropical characteristics, which means that in
[00:04:11] 30 minutes up to 30, 40
[00:04:15] liters of precipitation per square meter falls, so we have
[00:04:17] then urban floods or
[00:04:21] other disasters
[00:04:24] of that character, those are the storms we've been witnessing for the last few years in
[00:04:28] Zagreb, yes, that's it..." that kind of weather, now
[00:04:31] for example, this front that is passing over us now will not
[00:04:34] be a truly typical cold front, but
[00:04:38] it will be a line of instability that will pass over us, which can
[00:04:42] also bring thunderstorms in two or three
[00:04:45] advisors, including waves, but we expect what happened on July 19th
[00:04:47] two years ago when there was a real,
[00:04:51] real devastating cold
[00:05:00] droughts, so we are now witnessing and
[00:05:02] droughts, given that we don't have enough rainfall,
[00:05:06] very high temperatures, this segment was
[00:05:09] also interesting before our conversation for... a
[00:05:13] streak appears at 60°, rivers are
[00:05:15] heating up, this is not just a subjective
[00:05:19] feeling of us humans about the heat, but it is indeed
[00:05:22] a real situation on the ground. You told me that we
[00:05:26] don't even have a drought service, how do you,
[00:05:29] how do you, how do you expect and believe would be the
[00:05:32] correct way to approach these climate changes
[00:05:35] which are evidently here, look,
[00:05:38] last month I think we published on N1
[00:05:42] Info. "an article which had in
[00:05:45] its title the most insidious
[00:05:48] weather phenomenon, and the most insidious weather phenomenon is
[00:05:52] drought actually, because it starts slowly,
[00:05:55] gradually, it's very difficult to notice when
[00:05:59] it started, to say exactly, it started, now the drought has started,
[00:06:03] no, because drought occurs over a certain period
[00:06:06] of time, what you mentioned, that is
[00:06:09] we don't have a system for drought warnings." "
[00:06:13] at the state level, that should be established, just as
[00:06:16] we have a system for warning about dangerous
[00:06:18] weather uh dangerous weather
[00:06:22] phenomena related to meteo alarm, in the DHMZ meteo alarm
[00:06:26] we don't have data on drought,
[00:06:29] meaning that is missing,
[00:06:33] we are missing one step just to consolidate, to consolidate all
[00:06:36] the information, you have organizations that deal with
[00:06:40] the problem of water, these are Croatian waters, you have the
[00:06:44] Hydrometeorological Institute which also has a hydrological sector that
[00:06:47] measures water and temperature, water quantity
[00:06:51] of water, we need to measure groundwater, the quantity and
[00:06:54] height of groundwater, meaning these are information
[00:06:57] that needs to be consolidated in one place and monitored and warnings
[00:07:01] issued for the whole country, because we simply have to
[00:07:05] start acting in such a way that
[00:07:08] we prevent drought, we can prevent it by
[00:07:11] starting to collect water, by collecting,
[00:07:14] by starting to collect water in reservoirs
[00:07:18] this autumn, as a reserve,
[00:07:22] as a reserve for what awaits us
[00:07:24] next summer, because next summer will not be colder than
[00:07:28] this one, that's for sure, because this summer, according to all our
[00:07:31] meteorological forecasts, is perhaps one
[00:07:35] of the coldest summers until the end of this
[00:07:37] century, what does that mean, what
[00:07:41] does it mean that next one will be warmer, every
[00:07:45] next one even warmer, the next one even warmer, that's it,
[00:07:48] unfortunately the forecast is such, and what does that mean
[00:07:51] for each of us, for life, for industry, for
[00:07:55] agriculture, for my your life outside
[00:07:58] animals, plants, it means
[00:08:02] that hmm it's difficult, it's difficult
[00:08:05] to find a clear answer,
[00:08:08] the first answer is that we are uh
[00:08:11] creatures that... are adaptable, mhm, we will adapt
[00:08:15] in any way, the human race will adapt,
[00:08:18] however, agriculture and plants
[00:08:21] adapt much more slowly to changes
[00:08:25] in weather, that's for example one, one, one of the things we
[00:08:29] need to understand, that we already need to
[00:08:32] bring water to watering holes for wild
[00:08:34] animals, because if we don't do that, a part of
[00:08:37] uh wild animals in our
[00:08:40] forests will simply... die of
[00:08:43] thirst,
[00:08:46] no, no, it looks, it looks horrible, but, but, but look
[00:08:49] at it this way, even the next, the first major influx
[00:08:53] of precipitation will be in 10 to 15
[00:08:56] days, but until those 10 to 15 days we have to
[00:09:00] survive with puddles that evaporate
[00:09:03] every moment, what puddles, rivers have dried up, rivers have
[00:09:07] dried up, not puddles, no, so we need, we need to think
[00:09:11] that way. The second thing is, the drying
[00:09:14] of the roots of
[00:09:17] trees has started, mhm, so trees no longer have
[00:09:20] enough groundwater that they draw with their
[00:09:24] root system, trees are drying up,
[00:09:28] with the drying of trees
[00:09:31] the danger of fires is becoming greater and
[00:09:34] greater, our fire danger
[00:09:37] index was high two months ago
[00:09:41] on the Adriatic. Now it's high throughout
[00:09:44] Croatia, which means that
[00:09:47] some foolishly fired signal flare at
[00:09:51] some wedding in Slavonia can also cause a fire
[00:09:54] like the one we recently had on Korčula,
[00:09:58] and then preparing and
[00:10:02] extinguishing that fire is much harder than down in Dalmatia, because
[00:10:05] the Canadairs don't have anywhere to take water from,
[00:10:08] meaning the period while the aircraft is filling
[00:10:11] and emptying is much longer,
[00:10:14] so extensive preparations will be needed, furthermore,
[00:10:17] in normal, normal life, we all
[00:10:21] increasingly use air conditioners, yes, you can, you can
[00:10:24] make it air-conditioned. But that air conditioner expels heat outwards,
[00:10:26] with air conditioning we are
[00:10:30] actually raising the temperature of cities, a pile
[00:10:34] of air conditioners that release heat outwards,
[00:10:37] in rooms we keep the temperature at about
[00:10:41] 23, 24 degrees, outside we have raised
[00:10:44] the temperature from that air conditioner by 5 to
[00:10:48] 6 degrees, no, so we are
[00:10:51] ourselves harming ourselves
[00:10:54] in a way. mm, the problem related to
[00:10:58] drought is related to the problem of glaciers,
[00:11:01] we in, we had glaciers in the Balkans,
[00:11:04] we had a glacier on Triglav, it's gone,
[00:11:07] we had a glacier on Durmitor, it's gone,
[00:11:11] it melted, you have ice caves on
[00:11:15] Velebit, in which the ice is reduced only to
[00:11:18] traces,
[00:11:20] in the Alps.
[00:11:23] glaciers have retreated, but, that's not, it's not, it's not about
[00:11:27] those glaciers retreating now, but it's about those glaciers
[00:11:31] supplying rivers with water and
[00:11:34] now if it rains
[00:11:36] in Schwarzwald, the level
[00:11:39] and water level of the Dudava
[00:11:42] will improve or rise only in about 10
[00:11:46] days, but that's if a real rain falls,
[00:11:49] with large amounts of precipitation, we currently
[00:11:53] have a drought that is...
[00:11:56] "Precipitation at zero in Slavonia for the last month
[00:12:22] optimism boils down to the fact that we have to..." adapt and
[00:12:26] adapt as soon as possible and adapt as well
[00:12:29] as possible, we have to start saving water, that's one
[00:12:33] of the measures we have to take, we have to start,
[00:12:36] we won't talk about CO2 and CO2 emissions into the atmosphere,
[00:12:39] because no matter how much we save here, on the other side, on the battlefield,
[00:12:43] on some battlefield, they emit twice as much CO2 into
[00:12:46] the atmosphere, we have to be careful about fires, because fires
[00:12:50] tremendously uh contribute to the increase
[00:12:53] of CO2 and... particles in the atmosphere
[00:12:56] and what's even more important about
[00:13:00] that, after a big fire, that
[00:13:03] burned area remains black, it remains dark,
[00:13:06] which leads to even greater heating of that area
[00:13:09] and then when it rains on that, then the rain just
[00:13:13] washes away the top layer, but it washes away the top layer
[00:13:16] of soil, not just the ash that remained, but the soil as well, so
[00:13:20] we are actually turning uh
[00:13:23] forest areas into barren land, into
[00:13:26] wasteland, that's, that's one
[00:13:29] problem, but uh, I think that
[00:13:33] we will have pressure and uh,
[00:13:36] from countries that are located, that were located in the Sahel, meaning
[00:13:40] in the, in the area of uh, desert
[00:13:44] climate, that people will simply start migrating from those
[00:13:48] areas northwards, so we also have
[00:13:50] migration, general migration of population on Earth, not
[00:13:54] just. "not just here, because
[00:13:57] now you already have migration that is happening, summer migration, this
[00:14:01] tourist one, which no longer goes to the Adriatic, but goes to
[00:14:04] the Baltic, because the Baltic has become
[00:14:47] this: Washington and Tehran continue
[00:14:51] negotiations, but Donald Trump simultaneously threatens again
[00:14:54] with strong..." attacks if an agreement is not reached. At the same time,
[00:14:58] Israel continues its attacks on Gaza, stating that it will remain
[00:15:01] there until Hamas is
[00:15:03] disarmed.
[00:15:05] The US and Ukraine are negotiating the production of missile parts for Patriot
[00:15:09] systems, while Russian attacks further strain Ukraine's
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[00:17:27] the USA and Iran, these renewed new
[00:17:30] negotiations,
[00:17:33] new blockades, questions about what will happen with the Strait
[00:17:36] of Hormuz. "Donald Trump announced that they
[00:17:39] held day-long negotiations with
[00:17:43] the Iranians, but again, obviously in his own style, he said
[00:17:46] and threatened, there will be, there will be retaliation -
[00:17:50] there will be strong attacks on Iran if an agreement is
[00:17:54] not reached, what is the current situation
[00:17:57] regarding negotiations, Iran could get the right to control
[00:18:00] ships entering
[00:18:04] the Persian Gulf.
[00:18:08] What we currently know is that the Iranians are holding
[00:18:11] negotiations with Oman, not with the Americans,
[00:18:14] because as the American president says, if there isn't
[00:18:18] something, there will be something, this practically means that
[00:18:22] uh he uh
[00:18:25] imagines that those negotiations are taking place, because as we know, in the past few
[00:18:29] weeks, uh there have been no significant contacts
[00:18:32] between the two delegations
[00:18:35] directly. Qatar a few days ago... Majed Al-Ansari
[00:18:38] and their Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson announced that they had
[00:18:42] joined all of this, this practically means that
[00:18:45] uh a more serious mediator had to get involved in
[00:18:49] the negotiations to try to reach a solution, because Pakistan did not
[00:18:53] succeed, mm everything else
[00:18:56] didn't work for the simple reason that what you said a moment
[00:18:59] ago, he constantly threatens,
[00:19:02] constantly makes new demands, new
[00:19:06] threats, constantly... has a change of mind, no one
[00:19:09] is sure anymore whether something agreed upon today will still
[00:19:13] be in force this afternoon, so what the American
[00:19:17] president is doing is quite tiresome,
[00:19:20] because I will remind our viewers that
[00:19:24] at the beginning of the war, that is, at the end of February,
[00:19:27] he said it would last four to six
[00:19:31] weeks, here we are in the sixth month of this
[00:19:34] war and there is no end in sight, the only thing
[00:19:38] we got in the past few hours as some
[00:19:41] concrete information is that Iran and Oman discussed those
[00:19:45] routes, how this
[00:19:48] passage through Hormuz will happen, but that still has
[00:19:51] many problems within itself because uh
[00:19:55] some ask what if those, I don't know,
[00:19:59] transit tariffs or customs or some kind of road toll, let me call it that,
[00:20:03] are introduced, that will create additional costs
[00:20:06] for people who do business with the Gulf
[00:20:09] region and that will naturally have an effect on
[00:20:13] the global community, so this problem with the
[00:20:17] American administration has been going on for too long and I think
[00:20:20] that if he wants to reach some agreement
[00:20:24] he should create a serious negotiating team that would then go
[00:20:27] and talk to partners in
[00:20:31] the Gulf region and beyond to finally find a
[00:20:47] asked for some time and... and
[00:20:50] in recent days even more is the question
[00:20:54] how much this war is exhausting primarily
[00:20:57] the United States, not so much
[00:20:59] Iran uh how much longer this war could
[00:21:03] last and what is being asked is how much it will
[00:21:07] harm mm the US economy,
[00:21:10] that is, are there sufficient stocks
[00:21:13] of ammunition, they may not even exist, but how much money will
[00:21:17] then go into creating them and so that
[00:21:21] something like that can be acquired to continue
[00:21:23] the war? You are absolutely right, according to
[00:21:27] the latest information published by colleagues from
[00:21:30] CNN and other American media, their supplies are
[00:21:33] currently reduced by approximately
[00:21:37] 80%. Especially when it comes to
[00:21:39] missile interceptors. What were the Iranians practically doing here?
[00:21:43] The Iranians were firing those missiles to force
[00:21:47] the Americans to defend themselves, that is, to defend their allies in
[00:21:50] the Gulf region. The second thing that is very
[00:21:54] difficult for the American president at this
[00:21:56] moment is that none of
[00:22:00] those attacks led to what he was
[00:22:04] talking about, that they were wiped off the face of the earth, that they were destroyed, that they cannot
[00:22:07] defend themselves, that they cannot attack, and so on and so forth. They still
[00:22:11] have uh considerable supplies, certain
[00:22:14] things, as we learned from intelligence data, reports
[00:22:17] from our colleagues worldwide. have already
[00:22:21] uh replenished supplies, produced them in their own
[00:22:24] production, I have already said, I think in our Zagreb program
[00:22:27] and our Sarajevo program countless times that for example
[00:22:31] Shahed 136 drones that Russia uses in
[00:22:35] Ukraine, today are simply transferred
[00:22:38] across the border from Russia from factories that have
[00:22:41] uh a license for production
[00:22:44] they are given to the Iranians, the Iranians
[00:22:47] continue to use them normally, they saw in the Gulf region that the Iranians
[00:22:51] mostly used drones for attacks, meaning
[00:22:55] they did not use conventional
[00:22:57] weapons, you are also absolutely right when you say that
[00:23:01] the American economy will be threatened, yes, it will be threatened
[00:23:04] and it will be severely threatened and enormous financial resources
[00:23:07] will have to be invested, especially from
[00:23:10] the Pentagon's budget, I will remind you that
[00:23:14] the Congress is currently debating a new military
[00:23:18] budget that should amount to more.
[00:23:20] More than 1.8 trillion US dollars, or more
[00:23:24] than 1,800 billion US dollars that
[00:23:28] the Pentagon is currently asking Congress
[00:23:31] to allocate, of course, the question will then arise
[00:23:35] among Americans, especially among voters who will
[00:23:38] vote in November this year in the congressional elections, well,
[00:23:42] why are we spending so much money when Trump promised us that we will
[00:23:46] no longer wage endless wars, that we will not
[00:23:49] interfere in what is happening in the Middle East, so this whole
[00:23:53] situation simply causes enormous damage and one
[00:23:57] of the elements that are indirectly
[00:24:00] or directly related to what is happening
[00:24:04] in the Middle East is the price of oil at
[00:24:07] American pumps, not on the global market, but at
[00:24:10] American pumps where Americans now say, well, we didn't vote for this,
[00:24:14] we voted for a barrel to be under two dollars, now
[00:24:18] a barrel is uh...
[00:24:20] 3.5, in fact, a gallon to be under
[00:24:24] two dollars, now it's $4.55
[00:24:27] cents on average, so Americans are feeling
[00:24:30] the whole of this uh
[00:24:33] gambling adventure that
[00:24:36] Trump got into, which he claimed would end very
[00:24:40] quickly, just as he said the war in Ukraine would end in 24
[00:24:44] hours, well, this war didn't end as quickly as he
[00:24:47] said other wars would,
[00:24:50] the question arises
[00:24:53] be, let's say, punished
[00:24:57] in the US itself, we now have
[00:25:00] in the past two days this first
[00:25:04] round of elections for for Congress, these primaries
[00:25:08] were held, we already saw some unexpected
[00:25:11] victories and successes of some Democratic
[00:25:15] candidates, and if we now consider all of this
[00:25:19] in the story we are talking about
[00:25:23] the American attack and aggression against Iran which went
[00:25:27] along with Israel, here is also an interesting question of AIPAC, that is
[00:25:30] this American Israeli association
[00:25:34] which invested millions,
[00:25:37] 60 million in one case of sponsoring
[00:25:40] going against the candidates who now seem to have succeeded
[00:25:44] in winning the elections, what does that
[00:25:47] also tell us about some rifts? in American
[00:25:50] society, or maybe that is the punishment for these American
[00:25:54] policies?
[00:25:57] Yes, what you are talking about regarding Democrats, Michigan is very
[00:26:01] interesting there. That's where AIPAC invested
[00:26:04] huge financial resources, a total of 60 million
[00:26:08] was spent in the fight against Abdel El Said, 30
[00:26:11] million, 30 million it's the APEC
[00:26:15] that invested, it's very interesting, one
[00:26:17] primary election, meaning it's purely within the Democrats to
[00:26:21] choose who their candidate will be, it's not even the main elections that
[00:26:25] are coming in November. A huge amount of money has been spent,
[00:26:29] and that's precisely the struggle that is being waged with... how should I
[00:26:32] say, with with mm
[00:26:36] Democrats regarding their internal, so to speak,
[00:26:39] arrangement, because those progressive candidates like Alexandria
[00:26:43] Ocasio-Cortez are now coming more and more
[00:26:46] onto the scene, and if voters go
[00:26:49] with them, we see that Abdul El-Sayed won in
[00:26:53] Michigan against someone who was an establishment candidate,
[00:26:56] then that means there will be punishment for both sides
[00:27:00] both because of Gaza and because of what is now happening with the Middle
[00:27:04] East. In Trump's case, if he loses
[00:27:07] one of the two houses of the American Congress, that means investigations will begin,
[00:27:10] questions will be asked, and
[00:27:13] two years of his term
[00:27:16] will practically be spent with Democrats
[00:27:19] having the opportunity 24/7
[00:27:23] to constantly investigate everything he did and all the moves he
[00:27:27] made, and that will create huge problems for him and
[00:27:30] his administration if... By chance, El-Sayed's
[00:27:34] victory in these primaries indicates that there is a possibility that
[00:27:37] he will become the first Muslim senator in
[00:27:40] the United States in the history of the United States. Then that could
[00:27:44] mean he will lose both houses of the American Congress, and only then
[00:27:47] will he be in trouble, because then he will be what
[00:27:50] Americans call a Lame Duck President, meaning a president who
[00:27:54] can do absolutely nothing because the Democrats will not let him
[00:27:58] even adopt a uh, a letter
[00:28:01] of congratulations. To put it colloquially, if he wants to send
[00:28:05] a letter of congratulations to someone and he needs congressional approval for it, the
[00:28:08] Democrats will not uh, approve it, they will simply
[00:28:12] block him in everything, and everything he
[00:28:15] promised to American voters who supported him will
[00:28:19] fail in Congress. Also,
[00:28:22] I must say that people who
[00:28:25] voted for him in the last elections simply
[00:28:28] say, "We were deeply disappointed and we made
[00:28:32] a huge mistake voting for him at this
[00:28:35] moment," meaning in the elections when he won the presidential
[00:28:39] elections. So now it's part of that whole, shall
[00:28:41] we say, MAGA scene, the scene of those who
[00:28:45] were, who largely supported
[00:28:48] Trump's rhetoric and politics, for example, Tucker
[00:28:51] Carlson, our colleague, is now completely changing
[00:28:54] his tune. So, a lot is happening.
[00:28:58] Do you think that this war against Iran and actually this
[00:29:02] Israeli dragging of Washington into this entire
[00:29:06] story with all these repercussions you
[00:29:09] mentioned, is this perhaps that one
[00:29:13] moment that could
[00:29:16] really punish him, because people are now, you
[00:29:20] mentioned people who voted, we also have people here who financed his
[00:29:24] campaign who are no longer all that thrilled with what the
[00:29:28] Trump administration is doing? On the other
[00:29:31] hand, you can see... that the results of this
[00:29:34] action could actually most harm
[00:29:37] the USA? Yes, absolutely
[00:29:41] right, although when it comes to Tucker Carlson, a certain group
[00:29:45] of people who come from that MAGA sector, I wouldn't always take
[00:29:48] at full
[00:29:51] uh, as Americans say, face value. I wouldn't
[00:29:55] immediately take everything they say with complete
[00:29:58] sincerity and I wouldn't fully trust them. But it shows the trends
[00:30:02] that they have started washing their hands of him and repenting
[00:30:06] for everything they did. But something that is very interesting,
[00:30:10] Maggie Haberman, who recently wrote a book with Jonathan
[00:30:13] Swan called "Regime Change," which
[00:30:16] describes the first year of Trump's mandate and what happened
[00:30:19] at the beginning of
[00:30:22] this war with
[00:30:25] Iran, says that the moment Benjamin
[00:30:29] Netanyahu came to the White House in the situation
[00:30:32] room, and when he presented
[00:30:35] uh, the idea of how to go into this
[00:30:39] war, Maggie says the head of the CIA, the head of the State
[00:30:42] Department, uh, numerous other
[00:30:47] military segments from the Pentagon simply said,
[00:30:51] "No, what he is presenting to you, this idea he
[00:30:54] is presenting, this will not work, this will not go over well." However,
[00:30:58] Trump for some reason decided to go with that...