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[00:00:00] they are connected to precipitation here, so
[00:00:03] there are large oscillations in
[00:00:06] the forecast of the amount of precipitation, meaning
[00:00:10] we will have precipitation
[00:00:12] for sure, it will not be extreme, it will be
[00:00:16] normal, but the question is when and how, so
[00:00:20] we can expect a pleasant, warm autumn that can be
[00:00:23] rainy, that can be locally accompanied by
[00:00:27] strong tropical downpours. tropical
[00:00:31] characteristics, which means that in 30 minutes, up to
[00:00:35] 30, 40 liters of precipitation per square
[00:00:38] meter falls, so we have
[00:00:40] July is at then uh urban floods or other
[00:00:43] disasters
[00:00:46] of that character, those are the storms we have witnessed in Zagreb
[00:00:49] for the last couple of years, yes, that is that kind of weather,
[00:00:53] now, for example, this front that is passing now will not
[00:00:56] be a true typical cold front, but it will be
[00:01:00] a line of instability that will pass over us, which can bring
[00:01:04] thunderstorms in two or three waves,
[00:01:08] what happened on July 19th
[00:01:10] increase, about energy prices, two years ago when there was
[00:01:12] a true destructive cold front, destructive
[00:01:16] uh we mentioned the two of us talked briefly today in preparation for this
[00:01:20] conversation about droughts, so we are now witnessing
[00:01:23] also droughts, given that we don't have
[00:01:26] enough precipitation, temperatures are very high.
[00:01:30] "This report was also interesting before our conversation,
[00:01:33] the railway track heats up to 60°, rivers
[00:01:37] are heating up, this is not just a subjective
[00:01:40] the heat, but it is actually
[00:01:44] a really real situation on the ground, you told me that we
[00:01:47] don't even have a drought service, how do you
[00:01:50] expect and believe that it would be
[00:01:54] the correct way to position ourselves for these climate changes that
[00:01:57] look. last
[00:02:01] month, I think we published a report on N1 Info
[00:02:05] which had in its title
[00:02:08] the most insidious weather phenomenon, and
[00:02:12] the most insidious weather phenomenon is drought, in fact, because it
[00:02:16] develops slowly, gradually, it is very
[00:02:19] in Croatia, but throughout difficult to notice when it started, to say exactly,
[00:02:23] it started, now the drought has started, no, because drought develops over
[00:02:26] a certain period of time, what you
[00:02:30] mentioned, that we don't have a drought warning system
[00:02:33] at the state level, that should be
[00:02:36] established, just as we have a warning system for
[00:02:39] dangerous weather uh, dangerous
[00:02:42] weather disasters related to meteoalarm, in
[00:02:46] the meteoalarm of DHMZ, we don't have data on
[00:02:49] drought, so that
[00:02:53] is missing, one, we are missing one step, just to
[00:02:56] unify, to unify all the information, you have...
[00:03:00] "organizations that deal with the problem of water, these are Croatian
[00:03:04] waters, you have the hydrometeorological institute which also
[00:03:07] has a hydrological sector that measures water and
[00:03:10] temperature, water and the amount of water, we need to measure
[00:03:14] groundwater, the amount and height of groundwater,
[00:03:17] meaning these are information that need to be unified in one place and
[00:03:21] monitored and warnings issued for the whole
[00:03:24] country, because we simply have to start acting in such a way
[00:03:28] that..." we prevent drought,
[00:03:31] we can prevent it in such a way that we start collecting
[00:03:35] water, that this autumn, starting from autumn, we start
[00:03:38] collecting water in accumulation lakes
[00:03:42] as a reserve, as a reserve for what
[00:03:45] awaits us next summer, because
[00:03:47] next summer will not be colder than this one, that's for sure, because this
[00:03:51] summer, according to all our meteorological
[00:03:55] forecasts, is perhaps one of the coldest summers until
[00:03:58] the end of this century.
[00:04:01] "What does that mean, what does that mean that
[00:04:04] the next one will be warmer, every next one even, every next one even
[00:04:08] warmer, that's, that's, unfortunately the forecast
[00:04:11] is such, and what does that mean for each
[00:04:14] of us, for industry, for
[00:04:16] agriculture, for my your life outside,
[00:04:20] animals, plants, that means
[00:04:23] that it's hard, it's hard to find
[00:04:27] a more unambiguous answer to everything."
[00:04:30] "The first answer is that we
[00:04:31] are there any preparations you are are adaptable beings,
[00:04:35] mm-hmm, we will adapt in any way, the human race
[00:04:38] will adapt, however,
[00:04:41] agriculture and plants adapt much more slowly
[00:04:45] to weather changes, that is,
[00:04:48] for example, one of the things we need to understand, that is
[00:04:52] that we already need to bring water to
[00:04:55] watering holes for wild animals, because if we don't
[00:04:58] do that, part of our..." uh wild animals
[00:05:02] in our forests will simply perish from
[00:05:04] thirst,
[00:05:07] no, no, no, it looks, it looks terrible, but, but, but
[00:05:10] look, the next one. "The next first
[00:05:14] major influx of precipitation will be in 10 to 15
[00:05:18] days, but until those 10 to 15 days
[00:05:22] we have to survive with puddles that evaporate
[00:05:25] every moment, what puddles, the rivers have dried up, so the rivers
[00:05:29] have dried up, not puddles, no, so we need to think
[00:05:32] that way, another thing is that the drying
[00:05:36] of the roots of trees
[00:05:38] has begun, mm-hmm, meaning trees no longer have
[00:05:42] enough groundwater that they draw with their
[00:05:46] root system, there is a drying
[00:05:49] of trees, with the drying of trees
[00:05:53] the danger of fires is becoming greater and
[00:05:56] greater, our fire danger index
[00:05:59] was high two months ago
[00:06:03] on the Adriatic, now it is high throughout Croatia,
[00:06:06] which means that
[00:06:08] some stupidly
[00:06:12] at some wedding in Slavonia can also cause a fire
[00:06:16] like the one we recently had on Korčula,
[00:06:20] and then the preparation and
[00:06:23] extinguishing of that fire is much more difficult than down in Dalmatia,
[00:06:27] because Canadairs have no place to take water, meaning
[00:06:30] the period for refilling and emptying the aircraft itself is much
[00:06:34] longer, so great
[00:06:38] preparations will be needed, furthermore in normal
[00:06:40] normal life all... "all of us are using more air conditioners,
[00:06:44] yes, you can, you can make air conditioning, but that air conditioning expels heat outwards,
[00:06:48] with air conditioning
[00:06:52] we are actually raising the temperature of cities,
[00:06:55] a bunch of air conditioners that release heat outwards,
[00:06:59] in rooms we keep the temperature at about
[00:07:02] 23, 24°, outside we have
[00:07:05] raised the temperature from that air conditioner by 5 to
[00:07:09] 6°, no, so that's that..."
[00:07:12] We are harming ourselves
[00:07:15] in a way, uh, the problem related
[00:07:19] to drought is related to the problem of glaciers,
[00:07:23] we in the Balkans
[00:07:26] had glaciers, we had a glacier on Triglav, it's
[00:07:29] gone, we had a glacier on Durmitor, it's gone,
[00:07:32] it melted, you have glacial pits
[00:07:36] on Velebit, in which the ice is reduced to just
[00:07:40] ... traces.
[00:07:42] In
[00:07:45] the Alps, the glaciers have receded,
[00:07:48] but that's not the point that these glaciers have receded now,
[00:07:52] but the point is that these glaciers supply water to rivers
[00:07:55] and
[00:07:58] now if it rains in
[00:08:00] the Black Forest, the level and water level of the Danube
[00:08:04] will only improve or rise in about 10
[00:08:07] days, but that's if a real rain
[00:08:11] with large amounts of precipitation falls, we currently
[00:08:14] have a drought where
[00:08:17] precipitation is at zero in Slavonia for the last month,
[00:08:21] now, so that viewers don't say that we
[00:08:23] here, since we are in charge of everything, literally
[00:08:27] and figuratively,
[00:08:29] uh, but here, so that we don't end up in such
[00:08:33] a terrifying way, is there any optimism
[00:08:37] in what is here and all that
[00:08:40] is coming, as you said. Yes, there is optimism and
[00:08:44] optimism boils down to the fact that we have to adapt and
[00:08:48] adapt as soon as possible and adapt as best as possible,
[00:08:51] we have to start saving water, that is one
[00:08:54] of the measures we have to take, we have to start,
[00:08:57] we won't talk about CO2 and releasing CO2 into the atmosphere,
[00:09:01] because no matter how much we save here, on other sides, on a battlefield, they release
[00:09:04] twice as much CO2 into the atmosphere,
[00:09:08] we have to be careful about fires, because fires
[00:09:12] terribly contribute to the increase
[00:09:15] of CO2 and particles in the atmosphere
[00:09:17] and what is even more important with
[00:09:21] that, after a big fire, that
[00:09:24] burned area remains black, remains dark,
[00:09:28] which leads to even greater heating of that surface
[00:09:31] and then when rain comes to that, then the rain just
[00:09:34] washes away the surface layer, but it washes away the surface layer of soil,
[00:09:38] not just the ash that remained, but also the soil, so we are
[00:09:42] actually turning uh forest areas
[00:09:46] into karst, into barren land, no, that's, that's
[00:09:49] one problem, but uh, I think
[00:09:54] we will have pressure also, uh,
[00:09:58] from countries that are located, that were located in the Sahel,
[00:10:02] meaning in the area of
[00:10:05] uh, desert climate, that people will simply start
[00:10:09] migrating from those areas to the north, so we also have
[00:10:12] migration, general migration of population on Earth, not
[00:10:16] only, not only with us, because
[00:10:19] now you already have migration that is going, summer migration, this
[00:10:23] tourist one, which no longer goes towards
[00:10:25] the Adriatic but goes towards the Baltic, because the Baltic has become as warm as
[00:10:28] the Adriatic 10 years ago. Nothing, I will
[00:10:31] call you from time to time to
[00:10:35] rationally alert people to prepare
[00:10:38] for everything that is coming. Thank you very much
[00:10:42] for explaining some things and making them
[00:10:45] clearer to us, because all of that, all of that seems
[00:10:48] incomprehensible to us sometimes. Thank
[00:10:51] you, Mr. Lipovčak, for your visit. Thank you.
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[00:17:31] Welcome back. We are now going to Cavtat where
[00:17:35] Mr. Božo Lasić is waiting for us. Mayor of the municipality
[00:17:38] of Konavle, we said good day Mr. Lasić and welcome to
[00:17:42] N1. Good day to you and all your
[00:17:46] viewers. We said that in the past
[00:17:49] days we followed these big crowds in the south
[00:17:52] of Croatia which blocked your
[00:17:55] area, specifically the municipality
[00:17:57] of Konavle, you were among the most affected, how much
[00:18:01] did that affect tourists, but equally
[00:18:05] important question, how much did it affect you and the entire local
[00:18:09] population,
[00:18:12] well, it's true that it was, roughly speaking, that weekend
[00:18:16] was a bit chaotic,
[00:18:19] namely, through Konavle then passed
[00:18:22] about mm 14 to 15,000 vehicles and
[00:18:26] somewhere over 40,000
[00:18:28] mm 40,000 people, so that's
[00:18:31] roughly five times, we are
[00:18:34] a community of about 8,000 inhabitants, so... five times
[00:18:38] how big Konavle is at all, mm
[00:18:41] of course it really looked chaotic
[00:18:45] we had big problems, but I have to say that
[00:18:48] the police did an excellent job
[00:18:52] and prevented some major inconveniences that
[00:18:55] could have happened uh
[00:18:58] so there was nervousness in that column
[00:19:01] you have to understand people wait for 12 to 15 hours there was nervousness for
[00:19:05] our local residents. that people cannot get home from work
[00:19:09] they cannot m you simply cannot function normally the biggest
[00:19:13] fear in that whole story was that God forbid something
[00:19:16] worse happens, some traffic accident, that a potential
[00:19:20] fire happens or something, then it would only be mm
[00:19:23] a more complete disaster but I'm saying, luckily we got through it well
[00:19:26] we have now cleaned up those huge
[00:19:29] amounts of waste that were along the way, we are waiting
[00:19:33] we expect a new weekend, we hope there won't be such
[00:19:37] a crowd as it was last time and I think it shouldn't
[00:19:40] be, there are a number of circumstances that
[00:19:43] mm happened, first Feragosto started in Italy, then
[00:19:47] also the Scottish
[00:19:49] holidays started in Western Europe
[00:19:53] of course everyone wanted especially
[00:19:56] uh Albanian population and Macedonian to come home
[00:20:00] with their families for these holidays and well I say
[00:20:03] we hope this weekend won't be like the previous one.
[00:20:09] working on before this new
[00:20:12] weekend to give me exactly, I will have a meeting with the
[00:20:16] civil protection headquarters and the police today after this interview with
[00:20:18] you and we will agree on what we can do, look, we cannot
[00:20:22] control the flow, the flow is
[00:20:25] as it is at the border, m the
[00:20:28] Croatian border and the Montenegrin border are close, there is
[00:20:32] an additional problem when they get jammed, when we get jammed,
[00:20:36] then we have a problem. we have to, is it, then those
[00:20:39] passengers are successively
[00:20:42] let through, Mr. Lasić, when we talk
[00:20:46] about the season, certainly these big crowds.
[00:20:51] "on the one hand, it can look absolutely
[00:20:54] like a good season, like a large number of people, a large
[00:20:57] influx of tourists, however, we have been hearing
[00:21:00] for the past two months since the season started that it may
[00:21:04] not be as great as expected, that
[00:21:07] a period of stagnation has set in,
[00:21:10] what is the season like specifically for you in the municipality
[00:21:13] of Konavle, that I can only talk about the season in the municipality
[00:21:17] of Konavle, I wouldn't touch on others, that's why I'm asking that way.
[00:21:20] Yes, yes, so, the season is good for us, we had
[00:21:24] June in the black, I think by about
[00:21:27] two to three percent,
[00:21:30] the level of last year, we mostly have
[00:21:34] airplane guests, so we are an airplane destination, I think
[00:21:37] about 40% of our guests are from
[00:21:41] the United Kingdom and for now we can be
[00:21:45] satisfied, I often emphasize that it's not just
[00:21:49] important how many guests visited us, but how satisfied
[00:21:52] the local population is, how the whole
[00:21:56] system functions, uh, you know,
[00:21:59] when you have residents as many
[00:22:01] as you have, when you have large crowds, a large influx of guests,
[00:22:04] these incidental problems that occur, of course,
[00:22:08] create an additional atmosphere and you have a,
[00:22:11] let's say conditionally, problem, but thank
[00:22:15] God for now we are doing everything as it should be. "We have a very
[00:22:19] good communal infrastructure for now, sewage,
[00:22:22] water, drainage, that means a lot to us, we have really
[00:22:26] put it together extremely well in the last 30
[00:22:29] years, so that all larger settlements,
[00:22:33] including Cavtat,
[00:22:36] Gruda, Molunat, have their own
[00:22:38] sewage system, we are preparing for the construction of sewage for Čilipi, although it has partly reached
[00:22:42] Čilipi and the airport, and that is very important, you
[00:22:45] have a sewage system that works, you have clean
[00:22:48] sea. "When you walk along the promenade in Cavtat,
[00:22:51] you will always see clear and clean
[00:22:55] sea, and Cavtat, as you can see, Konavle deserves a number
[00:22:58] of awards that we have received in the last few years, that
[00:23:02] is important to us, we have some problems with, m, since
[00:23:06] all places in Croatia, and I think not only
[00:23:09] Europe, have the problem of waste management, but
[00:23:13] we are somehow trying to organize it and I hope that we will solve this problem
[00:23:16] in the coming years, we need to..."
[00:23:20] people need to change a little, it needs to be organized better,
[00:23:24] but I think there will be no reason for it not to work out well.
[00:23:28] And Mr. Lasić, Croatia as a tourist
[00:23:32] destination, especially here the south of Croatia,
[00:23:36] maybe in these new, new trends
[00:23:39] that are emerging, the Mediterranean is no longer that
[00:23:43] sole interesting destination, today we see people
[00:23:46] going to the mountains, to the Alps, spending
[00:23:50] their holidays there or going to places that
[00:23:53] are more competitive in price, you said
[00:23:56] for sure that you have either maintained or increased traffic
[00:24:00] by a few percent, i.e. the arrival of tourists, but what
[00:24:04] I am interested in is what is the situation with
[00:24:07] their spending once they arrive, specifically
[00:24:11] the municipality of Konavle, is consumption and eating in
[00:24:14] restaurants, for example, smaller or the same,
[00:24:18] or is that information you may not have, I'm interested in whether
[00:24:22] the season has perhaps weakened on some other parameters,
[00:24:25] yet due to the rise in prices that we all
[00:24:28] feel,
[00:24:30] yes, you are right to conclude that the habits of guests and tourists
[00:24:34] are changing, new generations are coming who have
[00:24:37] completely different thoughts, some other
[00:24:40] desires, it is often some, let's
[00:24:44] say, adventure tourism and some
[00:24:48] other, as I said, some other. destinations are
[00:24:50] uh more interesting, today you have
[00:24:53] one characteristic that a guest, before you had a guest who would
[00:24:57] come with his car, I remember in my mm
[00:25:01] and that was a long time ago, 30, 40
[00:25:04] years ago, 50, in my youth, a guest from Germany
[00:25:07] would come, park his car at the hotel and then stay for 10, 15
[00:25:11] days or seven, you had a guest for eight days, for 15 days and more
[00:25:15] days, today you have a young person who comes who wants to see
[00:25:19] as much as possible. to be
[00:25:21] different destinations, he will come to Konavle, come to Cavtat, he will go to Kotor, he will
[00:25:25] go, I don't know, to Cetinje, he will go to
[00:25:29] Mostar, Dubrovnik, all these are destinations that interest him and he stays for two
[00:25:32] to three days here with us and really
[00:25:36] in that sense habits are changing, we
[00:25:40] have in Konavle we really made that response through agritourism, through
[00:25:44] some new destinations that we created and we are trying
[00:25:47] our best as much as we can mm... mm
[00:25:50] and I say habits are changing, the narrative is changing,
[00:25:53] the story is changing, today tanning is no longer really
[00:25:57] in, is it, we talk
[00:26:00] about the sun as uh... "a type
[00:26:03] of danger of getting melanoma or something more then
[00:26:06] people avoid that, you know, we all have to be ready for that.
[00:26:10] whether guests, whether guests spend less
[00:26:14] or more, it's true that they spend less, but it's also a fact that
[00:26:17] our destination is certainly expensive, but
[00:26:20] again, the other day I had such a classic example,
[00:26:24] I always tell an anecdote and give some clear examples.
[00:26:28] By coincidence, I was in Paris and a kilo of cherries was over 30
[00:26:32] euros. So everywhere you have I'm afraid the euro,
[00:26:35] thanks to, thanks to, conditionally speaking, the corona crisis has indeed
[00:26:38] significantly devalued and today I feel when I have
[00:26:42] one euro in my pocket that I have
[00:26:46] one kuna, and even in some things that
[00:26:49] kuna is stronger, at least that's my impression of
[00:26:53] one euro, but here I'm saying, the guests try their best
[00:26:56] to accommodate guests, but in my opinion, the price
[00:27:00] is still... "Prices are not, are not appropriate, they are not
[00:27:03] as high as they are, and even more so
[00:27:07] because the state intervened in a number of things so that prices would not
[00:27:12] little is said about that, they are frozen, it has been
[00:27:16] going on for years, electricity has really become
[00:27:19] cheap in my opinion, too cheap,
[00:27:22] they tried with the price of oil
[00:27:26] with other benefits,
[00:27:28] and the government, conditionally speaking, put pressure on local
[00:27:32] self-government not to increase utility fees, contributions and so
[00:27:36] on, we did all that and we have now come to a
[00:27:39] situation, if you allow me, because I am in the position
[00:27:42] of the president of the association of municipalities of the Republic of Croatia, we have come to a situation where,
[00:27:46] as in Germany and other countries, local self-government,
[00:27:49] its function has come into question, you know, because we
[00:27:53] have not increased prices for years, and prices, stay in
[00:27:57] kindergartens and prices of utility fees, contributions and everything
[00:28:01] else and local taxes. That is one problem, we have not
[00:28:04] increased them, we have increased them for these reasons I mentioned, but of course
[00:28:08] there are also political reasons why
[00:28:10] local, uh, local leaders in a way
[00:28:13] did not want to increase it for political reasons,
[00:28:17] right? These are the problems we are facing, I see in Germany
[00:28:21] there were demonstrations of local leaders in front of the Bundestag
[00:28:24] and so on and so forth, these are problems that we simply
[00:28:27] have to solve on the fly,
[00:28:31] Mr. Lasić. "Thank you very much for this conversation, for
[00:28:34] joining us, for the detailed presentation of the situation
[00:28:38] in the south of Croatia, we send you greetings to Cavtat, thank you for
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