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[00:00:00] "heavily armed swat
[00:00:01] of teams, armored vehicles surrounding Margery Stoneman, Douglas High
[00:00:05] School, deadly school shooting in South Florida, the
[00:00:09] shooter walked down the hallway, I heard
[00:00:12] of young man
[00:00:13] of in crying for his mother, after 17 people were killed in a shooting
[00:00:17] at his high school in Parkland, Florida, people are going to keep saying it's
[00:00:21] of never going to happen to me, but when you don't take action, things like this
[00:00:25] eventually will happen to you. David Hog
[00:00:28] of dedicated his life to political..." activism.
[00:00:32] We will save lives. In
[00:00:35] of February of last year. How are we
[00:00:36] of doing, fellow Democrats? He became co-chair
[00:00:42] in of the DNC and led an effort to unseat democrats in primary elections who he
[00:00:46] said were asleep at the wheel. We are here to
[00:00:50] find the most effective young people in our country, truly generational leaders
[00:00:54] and replace people that are failing to meet the moment right
[00:00:56] of now. It's pretty unusual for top member of Democratic leadership.
[00:01:00] to openly plot to kick incumbants out of office, and yet that's what my guest
[00:01:04] today is doing. the move was not well received by party
[00:01:08] leaders and party elders. to go out and raise
[00:01:12] money
[00:01:12] of to defeat members
[00:01:13] of the same party. i think that's a jack ass rate
[00:01:16] of the highest level. after few months, hog resigned from the
[00:01:20] DNC, but he's continued fighting for generational
[00:01:24] of change in found me in my native habitat. i want
[00:01:26] to introduce David who has been working to engage younger voters.
[00:01:30] I'm here today because I want to feel hope in politics again.
[00:01:33] Hog is using his pack leaders we deserve to support young
[00:01:37] candidates to refuse to accept dark special interest
[00:01:41] money. Maybe the reason young people are not huge fans of
[00:01:45] democrats or politics in general is because politics doesn't give
[00:01:49] a shit about them. You guys ready to change that?
[00:01:52] Yes. Why was
[00:01:57] of there a need for what you're doing within the Democratic parties?
[00:02:00] infrastructure, have you seen
[00:02:01] the Democrats? I mean, if you look at Congress, I think it kind of speaks for
[00:02:05] itself. We have a government that is dominated and focused on
[00:02:09] people that are legislating that are not going to live to see the effects of many
[00:02:12] of the policies that they're passing. The reality is, we cannot continue to sell
[00:02:16] democracy to a
[00:02:17] of generation
[00:02:18] of that the system that we call democracy is not working for, and I
[00:02:22] think New
[00:02:22] of York City is actually one
[00:02:23] of the first places we did that, we were uh Zoran's largest funder in his primary, we spent
[00:02:27] $300,00 supporting him. Today he's.
[00:02:32] of
[00:02:38] and i approve this message because this campaign is about you, not me. can talk about
[00:02:42] you? like danny, valdez is
[00:02:45] democratic socialist. the sort of older generation
[00:02:49] that is afraid
[00:02:51] of the word socialist, that's not sticking with young
[00:02:55] people, right? it's true, and we see after poll after poll that democratic socialism is
[00:02:59] becoming more popular. kind of in every age group, but especially with young voters, and
[00:03:03] I think it's precisely because you like know, me,
[00:03:05] like so many people have worked low-wage jobs, felt like they had no career
[00:03:09] path, felt really
[00:03:10] a locked out of
[00:03:11] in home ownership and what we've traditionally thought of as the American dream,
[00:03:14] and we know that the system is the problem. Democratic Socialist
[00:03:18] Zoran Mamdani will be elected the next mayor of
[00:03:22] New York, New York. It's impossible not to feel a sense of hope for
[00:03:26] better tomorrow. Um, Danny's historic win. and
[00:03:30] success with an openly democratic
[00:03:33] of socialist platform shocked many within the Democratic
[00:03:37] party. I no longer have to prove that this kind
[00:03:41] of politics
[00:03:42] of works. I can just point the on. one communist on the
[00:03:46] faculty of one university as one communist too
[00:03:49] many. communism and
[00:03:52] of socialism have long been bad words in American politics
[00:03:56] dating back to the McCarty hearings and the cold...
[00:04:00] a of or america stood for capitalism, they use the word social
[00:04:04] democrat buse it sounds so nice, but it's really
[00:04:08] communism, you're talking about, but that is changing, you
[00:04:12] understand, I think rightly, this is social democracy, this is
[00:04:15] not golag socialism, this is not the Soviet Union
[00:04:19] socialism, socialism on the other hand, up like rocket, look at
[00:04:23] this, two and three democrats have favorable view of
[00:04:26] socialism, capitalism is even less popular. among young
[00:04:30] people, if politicians want to know how to get elected,
[00:04:34] it is not complicated, do your
[00:04:37] me job and represent the people, not the special interests buying
[00:04:41] out our elections. what i think a lot about is the
[00:04:45] fact that if
[00:04:46] of we do not start making our political system work for
[00:04:50] people that feel
[00:04:51] of like they are living
[00:04:52] in a broken promise, where they've done as a
[00:04:57] of generation everything we've been told average right? "we've gone to college at some
[00:05:01] of the highest rates of
[00:05:02] of anybody of any generation in American history, contrary to popular belief, we've
[00:05:05] actually voted at the highest rates of any generational cohort at our
[00:05:09] age in American history, consistently." " Often
[00:05:13] when belief
[00:05:14] in the system collapses, civil unrest and violence
[00:05:18] follow.
[00:05:19] The CEO of United Health Care
[00:05:22] was murdered this morning. Some young Americans
[00:05:26] celebrated the murder of healthcare CEO Brian
[00:05:29] Thompson. Unfortunately, I don't think that we really lost
[00:05:33] like that great of member of our society. How do you
[00:05:35] think Brian Tomson's family feels
[00:05:39] when he hears, when they hear that? Well, obviously. I'm not going to try to say something
[00:05:43] insensitive about his children, but I do want to kind of remind the
[00:05:47] people that he was also denying life saving care to hundreds if
[00:05:51] not thousands of families. How do you think their families feel when their loved
[00:05:55] ones are lost? How do you feel about that and and clearly as
[00:05:59] somebody who has survived gun violence in this
[00:06:03] country?
[00:06:04] it it I'll tell you it is the thing that keeps me up at night more than anything. And
[00:06:08] it's not just like that specific instance. There is a deep, deep...
[00:06:12] deep frustration with how our political system is not
[00:06:16] working for the people who need it most. if we do not start to make it work, people
[00:06:20] are going to find somebody who promises to do that, even if it's without
[00:06:24] democracy. we need to fight against a system
[00:06:27] design to keep us separated,
[00:06:31] divided, marginalized and oppressed. there is
[00:06:35] clearly an appetite for change, but democrats are
[00:06:38] divided on just how radical that change should be.
[00:06:42] "we say no more to the democratic collaborators
[00:06:45] too,
[00:06:51] i thought the big takeaway in
[00:06:54] 2024 was democrats need to go everywhere, wasn't that the
[00:06:57] takeaway? i'm shocked that we're seeing
[00:07:01] moderate center left democrats saying they're not even going to speak to
[00:07:05] Hassan Piker when we know that the
[00:07:08] best way to get message out is to go to places where they..." not
[00:07:12] otherwise hear
[00:07:13] it,
[00:07:21] oh thank you, thank you, thank you, we got to get
[00:07:24] picture, i appreciate you
[00:07:27] onmy, oh he's so
[00:07:31] cute, we also have with us mr
[00:07:34] hasan, piker, what's going
[00:07:38] on st louis, hasan piker has been traveling
[00:07:42] the country, leveraging his online fame to back progressive
[00:07:46] candidates and broadcasting their rallies to his 3 million
[00:07:50] twitch followers. we all know the republicans are corrupt, we
[00:07:54] all know that they're monsters, they're racist, they traffic in
[00:07:57] hatred, but we are here to
[00:08:00] say we are no longer going to vote for do nothing,
[00:08:04] democrats either, we're voting for democrats with a
[00:08:07] purpose. glory, glory,
[00:08:11] glory, glory. 'It feels like you're running.
[00:08:14] It's what people keep saying, but I'm not. Are you
[00:08:17] concerned that pushing the candidates that you're pushing, you might
[00:08:21] end up hurting the democrats nationally a general election? I've heard this
[00:08:25] concern a lot. They said my allegiance was Zaram was
[00:08:29] actually going to hurt his chances. Andrew Como tried to exploit that. He
[00:08:33] tried to to really hammer on this point that I was a dangerous
[00:08:36] radical and and and so was zoron by associating with
[00:08:40] me. I think for far too long because conventional wisdom in Washington
[00:08:43] was, don't respond to the needs the people, always
[00:08:47] focus test your messaging and try to find a moderate
[00:08:51] centrist vision, and we're finding out that the
[00:08:55] zoron style candidacy, the bernicrats are are
[00:08:59] rising up in popularity and and fighting against the
[00:09:02] establishment and and seeing tremendous
[00:09:05] success, tremendous
[00:09:08] success indeed,
[00:09:12] Story the summer is the far left success in New
[00:09:16] York, in Colorado, California,
[00:09:20] Pensilvania and New Jersey, and
[00:09:24] may God bless the United States of
[00:09:26] America,
[00:09:32] Mr. Carval, nice to meet you, I'm Donio
[00:09:36] Sullivan, one might think all the energy and
[00:09:40] excitement about new generation of candidates. might be cause for
[00:09:43] celebration within the Democratic Party. This is what I
[00:09:47] call a sign of an advanced
[00:09:50] civilization, but not for party veteran James
[00:09:54] Carvel. How are you feeling about the midterms? I feel
[00:09:58] very good. The only thing that can derail us, we
[00:10:02] could nominate some the wrong candidates in the wrong place and
[00:10:06] not be as successful as our hope. The wrong candidates,
[00:10:10] what you mean by that? All right, let's... take
[00:10:14] in Michigan, now Said is highly competent,
[00:10:17] but he's way left, I see
[00:10:21] challenges from the quote,
[00:10:24] aggressive left, unquote, and
[00:10:28] these people are too hot headed to know that they're not
[00:10:32] popular, people don't like them, and uh, but if
[00:10:36] you get a skewed turnout a
[00:10:38] primary, you might end up losing race
[00:10:42] that you should have never lost in the first place. when you say progressive left,
[00:10:46] you sort there's a tone of contempt there, yeah, yes, so you were
[00:10:50] very wise, hope the camera was able to pick up the
[00:10:53] content. this high definition, yeah, yes, they don't
[00:10:57] win elections, they never run against
[00:11:00] republicans, they just run against other
[00:11:02] democrats,
[00:11:04] and their only message
[00:11:08] is we're going to blow everything
[00:11:10] up, at this point you hadn't
[00:11:14] vetted grand platiner, you hadn't done a full scrub of who he is,
[00:11:17] how did you go about vetting him? thank you all very much, many the
[00:11:21] insurgent left candidates are unconventional, "if what
[00:11:25] the voters wanted were people who were grown in bats and
[00:11:29] had never done or said anything that they might regret their
[00:11:33] entire lives. we'd have very different country. flatner, who said he was
[00:11:37] unaware the tattoos nazi association, explained that it was the
[00:11:40] result of drunken night out 18 years ago, and
[00:11:44] some have generated lot of controversy. dora
[00:11:48] Lisa Avila Chavalier is now facing questions about deleted
[00:11:52] tweets saying that she's sympathetic to communism. to soviet
[00:11:55] figures, criticizing interracial relationships, saying black and arab men are
[00:11:59] both fetishizing ugly colonizer women, did not delete
[00:12:03] those uh tweets um because i was running for office, deleted my
[00:12:07] entire twitter account many years ago, would one
[00:12:10] accusation culminating in gram platiner ending his bid for
[00:12:14] seniness, did Grand Platner rape you
[00:12:18] by definition, yes, any accusation of
[00:12:22] non-consensual behavior is category.
[00:12:25] false back in Washington DC, it's not only the
[00:12:29] left-wing candidates that are making some democrats nervous, it's
[00:12:33] also their support from Hassan Piker. Jonathan
[00:12:37] Cohen runs the Democratic centrist group third
[00:12:40] way. Hasan Piquer is unknown
[00:12:44] to most Americans who determine elections. Swing
[00:12:47] independent voters have never heard of Hasan Piker. The ones you
[00:12:51] have wouldn't like him. He's known and popular. among
[00:12:55] a very small subset of young people who are
[00:12:58] super online and very radicalized, fine,
[00:13:02] have at it, that's how he makes a living. you mentioned, piker
[00:13:06] isn't that famous, but you wrote a wall
[00:13:10] street journal oped about him, why did you think was
[00:13:13] important to do that? we called him out because we wanted to
[00:13:17] warn mainstream democrats, not to associate
[00:13:20] with him, not to elevate him, not to put him on their platforms or...
[00:13:25] with him, because in fact that will drive away
[00:13:29] the swing independent and moderate voters that they need to
[00:13:31] win. on capital hill, democratic
[00:13:34] representative
[00:13:36] josh Gottheimer went so far as to co-author a resolution, condemning
[00:13:40] piker for what he described as anti-semitic hate
[00:13:44] speech. this is hate speech intended to inside
[00:13:47] violence.
[00:13:49] okay, are you surprised at
[00:13:53] just how big issue? israel has become, I'm kind of
[00:13:56] surprised how this issue has become almost a litmus test in
[00:14:00] primaries across the country, how do you think that's happened? sometimes
[00:14:04] these issues just uh, they they they get a mind their own.
[00:14:08] I don't even think when I talk to voters about it and say, well, you're screaming and yelling at me,
[00:14:12] what are you, what, what really are you upset about, and it's
[00:14:16] based on part, I think a lot of disinformation out there, I
[00:14:19] often don't really get answer, except,
[00:14:21] I don't, I saw something on TikTok, Hassan Piker, you...
[00:14:25] introduce resolution condemning him along with
[00:14:28] Kandason's correct for I think what you characterizees
[00:14:32] anti-semetic hate speech. Can you talk us true why was
[00:14:35] it important to single out Hassan
[00:14:39] Piker
[00:14:40] and and Kandasons in particular? Well when you start ignoring hatred and
[00:14:44] this is again look at history against any community in this you the hatred
[00:14:48] bubbles up and if you don't put it out if you don't extinguish the
[00:14:51] fire the flames just grow and Son Piker is
[00:14:55] not just some random guy walking down the street screaming something
[00:14:59] hate filled. He has millions of followers on his streaming
[00:15:03] platform. By
[00:15:04] the way, so does Candis Owens, right? Left and right,
[00:15:07] but still both filled with anger and and and spewing
[00:15:11] just not only disinformation, just lies and
[00:15:15] deceat, but ginning people up and targeting communities,
[00:15:19] including Jewish people. Hassan Piker the many
[00:15:22] controversial statements he has made, he... has disavowed
[00:15:26] some, he has said some have been taken out of context, but I mean
[00:15:30] ultimately he stands by statements in terms of broad support for
[00:15:33] Hezballah, broad support for Hamas, but there's also via
[00:15:37] clips of him a speech, think in Oxford in United
[00:15:41] Kingdom, talking about antisemitism and the plague that
[00:15:44] that is. anti-semitism is
[00:15:46] a canary in the coal mine of fascism. it's one the oldest
[00:15:49] bigotries that has caused those the Jewish faith a tremendous amount of
[00:15:53] pain. from paggrams to the holocaust, jews have always
[00:15:57] been singled out by those in power as a scape goat for
[00:16:00] instability and economic volatility. hasan
[00:16:03] Piker's argument is that he is anti-zionist.
[00:16:08] and not anti-semitic and that they are two very different
[00:16:11] things. if that's what he believes then he should probably practice
[00:16:15] that because he has done a very good job
[00:16:19] of of smooshing the two together. we have
[00:16:23] Bernie Sanders and and Aoc in the building. despite the
[00:16:26] controversies, there are prominent democrats who recognize Piker's
[00:16:30] influence and want his followers in the party. I'm going to do
[00:16:34] rapid fire now. for many on the left is...
[00:16:37] ending a litm test, calling Israel's
[00:16:42] aid has yeah, become to out genocide, Israel, yes, sanctioning Israel, yes, a free
[00:16:46] palestine, of course, but just how fine is the line
[00:16:50] between criticism of Israel, tolerated
[00:16:54] form of anti-semitism is
[00:16:56] anti-izanism. zyanism, as we just heard,
[00:17:00] is simply the the right the jews to self-determination in their
[00:17:03] historic homeland, an anti-semitic hate.
[00:17:07] what you're saying here about voting for Hamas? I'm not literally capable of voting
[00:17:11] for Hamas or Israel, but isn't that the point of though, right? like so why
[00:17:15] says?
[00:17:21] let's see how many phone calls we got today uh last number
[00:17:25] check was 60,000
[00:17:28] dials, keep pumping those phones, keep making those
[00:17:32] calls, keep smiling and dialing. Hassan Piker streams live for up to
[00:17:36] 10 hours a day from his. home in Los Angeles, there's other
[00:17:39] opportunities to do phone banking uh leading into election day
[00:17:43] as well. Anyway, love you all, and I will
[00:17:47] see you tomorrow, same time,
[00:17:51] same place. For his critics, the 35-year-old has become a
[00:17:55] symbol the far left insurgency in the Democratic
[00:17:58] Party. All right, we're here, one that they say will lose
[00:18:01] general elections and hurt democrats chances of taking over
[00:18:05] the Senate in the midterms. "our community will be there every step
[00:18:09] the way. James Carville says, this is all
[00:18:13] going to implode at the general
[00:18:15] election. Yeah, as
[00:18:19] opposed to previous neoliberal democratic candidacies that have been
[00:18:22] spectacular successes so far. Hillary Rodam
[00:18:26] Clinton in 2016 and Camela Harris in
[00:18:29] 2024. I don't think I'm like exceptionally good
[00:18:33] at uh prostlatizing the gospel of socialism
[00:18:36] necessarily. i think
[00:18:38] there are a lot of people who are just like, this is not working, cost of living crisis is
[00:18:42] completely out of control, democrats haven't done anything about it, republicans haven't done
[00:18:45] anything about it, there has to be different
[00:18:48] alternative,
[00:18:53] piker became issue himself in
[00:18:55] the democratic party when he first campaigned with abdul el
[00:18:59] sayed who was running in the michigan democratic primary for us
[00:19:02] senate, that's a
[00:19:06] state that trump and Abdullah
[00:19:09] is my guy, there was a lot of controversy surrounding my
[00:19:13] affiliation with him, and there was a month of media
[00:19:17] coverage, and in the aftermath of that polls came out and
[00:19:21] it showed that Abdul had actually risen to the top, he was in third place before that
[00:19:25] happened, and he was in first place after it happened, what Josh and I are trying to
[00:19:29] do in putting this resolution forward is to say
[00:19:33] enough, the house resolution sponsored by congressman Gottheimer and
[00:19:36] Lawler. detail some of Piker's controversial
[00:19:40] statements with people like Owens and Piker and they're not welcome in our
[00:19:43] districts and and none of this language and is acceptable either
[00:19:47] pairing itself up while he has apologized for some of his comments and
[00:19:51] has said others were taken out a context he has continued to
[00:19:55] praise hamas you seen
[00:19:59] this yes I have house
[00:20:02] resolution that's never
[00:20:05] gonna get passed too. Hassan Piker, a prominent online streamer, has
[00:20:09] often used anti-semitic rhetoric, including expressing
[00:20:13] support for Hamas, designated foreign terrorist
[00:20:17] organization. Why do you express support from
[00:20:20] Hamas? Well, I wouldn't say I express support for
[00:20:24] uh all of Hamas's actions or anything. I do say that the Palestinian
[00:20:28] resistance largely does have an internationally
[00:20:32] recognized right to resist. Do they violate that sometimes with war crimes?
[00:20:36] Absolutely, and certainly has as well, but at the end the
[00:20:39] day Palestinians do have a right to resist militarily. When you say
[00:20:43] Hamas is a thousand times better, do you actually mean that or is
[00:20:47] that
[00:20:47] a rhetorical move or like a solidarity? signal like
[00:20:50] what what?
[00:20:51] mean it's all the above. do mean it. uh, i think it's a rhetorical move,
[00:20:55] because it frustrates lot of people. i've also said, i'm a harm reduction voter. i'm a lesser
[00:20:59] evil voter, and therefore i would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time. if you say
[00:21:03] you're voting for Hamas, you're voting
[00:21:06] for limited rights for women, you're voting
[00:21:10] for homophobia,
[00:21:13] but but like this is right, like when you say you're voting for Hamas.
[00:21:17] it's not an endorsement their domestic policies, but i don't think... anyone
[00:21:20] actually cares about their domestic b disease, i certainly don't every
[00:21:24] palestinian at the end the day, regardless their disagreements with
[00:21:27] hamas will always say that Israel is still the Israeli
[00:21:31] occupation is the greatest problem that they're facing, the most existential
[00:21:35] problem that they're facing. can you understand when when
[00:21:37] when just the regular
[00:21:41] American? of course, that's the reason when they see all this, well that's the purpose
[00:21:45] of that document, the purpose of that document is not to be like, this guy has spent the
[00:21:49] last. year is combatting far-right anti-semitism and far right
[00:21:53] radicalization and still continues to do so to this day, as someone who's an
[00:21:57] anti-fascist, i'm going to oppose zionism, which is fascist
[00:22:00] ideology. these guys can't defend that, so they have to attack
[00:22:04] its prominent critics. i will always always
[00:22:08] call out anti-semitism. it's gross, it's immoral, it is hate
[00:22:12] crime. there is no space for
[00:22:15] anti-semitism. hang around the progressive left
[00:22:19] for any amount. of time and you likely hear about
[00:22:22] apac. I'm speaking about Apac, apac funding. what makes apac
[00:22:26] unique is that the funded by billionaires? apac, the
[00:22:30] American Israel
[00:22:31] public affairs committee, is an American lobbing group that advocates for
[00:22:35] pro Israel policies in Washington DC. In the
[00:22:39] United States, our support for Israel is bipartisan, and that
[00:22:43] is how it should stay. For decades, politicians on both
[00:22:47] sides the isle have engaged with AP and
[00:22:50] spoken its annual conference in Washington, the largest
[00:22:53] apec gathering in history, and I feel like I am
[00:22:57] among family. In Michigan, the
[00:23:01] group has spent upwards of 30 million against Senate candidate
[00:23:05] Abdul El Saied who has been critical the Israeli government
[00:23:09] and actions Gaza,
[00:23:09] their in but in parts the Democratic
[00:23:13] Party, Apac is now deeply
[00:23:16] unpopular. Now is the time of monsters.
[00:23:20] These monsters take many forms in Apac, for whom the only thing
[00:23:24] more frightening than democracy being allowed to run its course is an end to
[00:23:27] genocide Netanyahu's wars. Like other
[00:23:31] groups, they fund campaign supporting and opposing
[00:23:34] candidates. critics of politicians like Mam Dani say that the
[00:23:38] singling out of apac is anti-semitic. Something has
[00:23:42] happened when elected officials like our mayor in this
[00:23:46] city, gas lights Jews calling Apec and the people who...
[00:23:50] support it monsters Corey Bush lost her seat in
[00:23:53] Congress in 2024, she blames
[00:23:57] Apac. It was a coordinated effort because
[00:24:00] I was speaking about keeping our money here in this country and
[00:24:04] not bombing babies in another country. Another anti-Israel member of
[00:24:08] congress, Corey Bush, more than $7 million was spent to
[00:24:12] oppose Bush in 2024, a historically high
[00:24:16] amount for a congressional primary race. So-called squad.
[00:24:20] faced a fierce primary challenge from democratic opponent, Wesley
[00:24:24] Bell, that's after his campaign saw influx of cash from the Israel
[00:24:27] aligned
[00:24:28] toper pack a pack, the ads never said Israel, palestine,
[00:24:32] gaza, the ads said Cory is not a good
[00:24:36] democrat. Bush was good at getting headlines, but bad at actually
[00:24:40] accomplishing anything. More than 70% the spending against her
[00:24:44] was by a superpack affiliated with
[00:24:46] APAC. Now Bush is running to...
[00:24:54] the second most expensive congressional primary,
[00:24:58] that's what it took for Israel to subvert the
[00:25:01] democratic process, well an activist like piker puts the issue of
[00:25:05] Israel front and center in his campaigning, David Hogg's
[00:25:08] message is squarely focused on getting dark special
[00:25:12] interest money out of politics, there is no way of
[00:25:16] taking corporate money and just not being in bad with those special interests.
[00:25:20] right and rejecting the influence of ap he
[00:25:23] too brings up apac.
[00:25:27] let tell you story. when i first started working in DC, when i went from
[00:25:31] working on the outside of politics in the advocacy world to then working on the
[00:25:35] inside. one the first things that i was told when i got here was do not talk about
[00:25:39] apech, do not mention them, do
[00:25:43] not think about them, don't dare go against them. and the thing that was
[00:25:47] striking to me about that was how
[00:26:02] stand, this is the NRA, nobody's ever going to take them on, but we did, and
[00:26:06] we won, and we made that organization go from standing for the National Rifle
[00:26:09] association to standing for not relevant anymore, yeah, I think
[00:26:13] a lot of people watching this to hear
[00:26:17] you, a parkland
[00:26:19] survivor, talk about
[00:26:23] apac uh, in the same rat
[00:26:26] as NRA,
[00:26:28] will be
[00:26:31] surprising. "it shouldn't be, both
[00:26:34] are getting kids
[00:26:36] killed, and I don't
[00:26:40] draw line between whether it's kids in Parkland, kids
[00:26:44] any street in America, any community, or if it's kids in
[00:26:47] Palestine, it's not okay. when you first got here to
[00:26:51] DC and you were told whatever you do, don't talk about
[00:26:55] Apac, don't come after apac, big
[00:26:59] farmer puts a lot of money into this town,
[00:27:02] goil, whatever, why do you think it was
[00:27:06] apac? you were told to stay quiet about more so than anything else?
[00:27:10] there are few groups that had the winning streak that apack had, that's the reality, what
[00:27:14] people fear more than anything are people that they perceive to be strong
[00:27:17] winners that can be decisive in elections.
[00:27:21] apac did not make anyone available for an interview for this
[00:27:24] program, a statement, apac called hog's comments
[00:27:27] despicable and disgusting, ap said it
[00:27:31] is to support quote principal democrats who share our
[00:27:35] commitment to a partnership that is integral to America's national
[00:27:39] security. It also pointed out that many democrats it supports are
[00:27:43] winning their primaries. Boss, what
[00:27:47] does all of this mean for the mid-terms?
[00:27:50] Moderate democrats are the only
[00:27:53] ones. Who have delivered the House and the White
[00:27:57] House since Trump came on the scene in 2015. But
[00:28:01] in the Trump era. those centrest
[00:28:03] democrats have lost the white house twice and only
[00:28:07] one at once. true, that's true.
[00:28:11] today is the most popular Israel will be going
[00:28:14] forward. tomorrow Israel will be less popular than
[00:28:17] it is today. and yesterday Israel was more popular than it
[00:28:21] was today. it's
[00:28:23] done.
[00:28:35] "if we really are going to take a rising authoritarian right, that is
[00:28:39] going to be about having as many people as part of that movement as
[00:28:42] possible, even if that makes you uncomfortable. John
[00:28:46] Luves, John Fabro, and Tommy Vtor, all worked for
[00:28:49] President Barack Obama, and now host the hugely popular
[00:28:53] Pod Save America podcast. They say democrats need to
[00:28:57] talk everyone, including each other. John, you
[00:29:01] interviewed Hasan Pike." right, you heard about
[00:29:03] that, you got a lot of shit
[00:29:06] even for talking to him, clearly you don't buy into the
[00:29:10] idea that somebody like aassan piker should not be given a
[00:29:14] platform, how dare you platform someone with huge platform, right?
[00:29:17] yeah, whether you like this or not, um, hassan has lot of
[00:29:21] people who listen to him, i don't want to start going down the path
[00:29:25] uh, even as we headed to 2028 where i say, all right, if you if you're not with
[00:29:29] me on this issue, i don't want to listen to you, we had interviewed him,
[00:29:32] for um and it wasn't a big deal before. I think
[00:29:36] it's sort of what we started this to do, which
[00:29:40] was to have conversations with people who are involved in politics and let the
[00:29:44] audience decide um what to make of that. I think the Democratic Party's got to move away
[00:29:48] from this dumb debate about platforming. Let reasonable adults kind of sort
[00:29:52] out what they think about it. Mostly, I think it did enormous harm to the
[00:29:55] Democratic Party, to Democratic candidates that we refuse to go
[00:29:59] on other people's shows a purity test. roof is
[00:30:03] collapsing on the Democratic Party establishment tonight, with insurgent
[00:30:07] campaigns housing long-term incumbent Democrats, this
[00:30:10] primary face-off is what some are calling the democrat civil
[00:30:14] war. the growing divide over Israel is reshaping politics
[00:30:18] on the left, democratic socialists in New York were uh
[00:30:22] crazy, like outright really crazy.
[00:30:25] last June, it was not the end, it was
[00:30:29] the beginning. sides claim their
[00:30:33] candidates will be more electible in November. I want to talk about this
[00:30:37] idea of electibility. Let me be clear. The
[00:30:41] last people who have any right to lecture us about
[00:30:44] electibility are the establishment who lost the Donald
[00:30:48] Trump. Is the Democrat
[00:30:51] party having its its tea party movement to move to to the
[00:30:55] left? Even beyond Trump and before Trump, inequality in this country
[00:30:59] was.