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[00:00:00] "are becoming new hotspots, the other thing is,
[00:00:03] the media is discovering and citizens are reporting various
[00:00:06] landfills throughout Croatia, this also tells the story further, so
[00:00:10] let's go back to Istria Našice, these are perhaps the most blatant examples because there
[00:00:14] are 300 tons divided into two
[00:00:16] cement plants, mm in Istria it had a serious effect, at
[00:00:21] the fact that 3:30 on Tuesday there was a protest in Raša, it's a strange
[00:00:24] time, but it managed to gather between 500 and 700 people, that's no small feat,
[00:00:28] if it was a different time, surely the..." turnout would be higher, after
[00:00:32] "The fundamental documents on all, it's not a big place, it's not a big place, but ok, Labin is
[00:00:35] close, there are now a lot of people from Labin and
[00:00:50] actually we have, well, how do the citizens feel when you already
[00:00:53] know them? They are very dissatisfied, very dissatisfied because they have the feeling that
[00:00:57] actually, I mean, generally, around Holcim and cement plants, there are many more relationships. problems and projects that drag on
[00:01:01] in that local community. This was actually the drop that spilled the beans,
[00:01:12] that the tension continues in Istria, an extraordinary session of
[00:01:16] the Istria County Assembly was convened, meaning there are consequences for political relations
[00:01:19] within the county, so it will be very interesting to watch all these dynamics,
[00:01:23] we will see what will happen in Našice on Saturday, and what do the citizens say? They
[00:01:26] simply don't want that to happen there, they, they more.
[00:01:30] Actually, I think the common denominator is distrust.
[00:01:33] Even rational citizens whom I've seen in Vox Populi and read
[00:01:37] comments uh, simply no longer have
[00:01:40] trust in these institutions that tell them about that waste. On the
[00:01:44] other hand, there is no communication or openness from
[00:01:47] Holcim to calm this situation down,
[00:01:51] to present studies, to hold a town hall meeting like in America or Great
[00:01:54] Britain, where you actually answer citizens' concerns at a public
[00:01:58] forum. And they somehow retreated into
[00:02:01] a defensive position, leaving an empty space for
[00:02:05] defense, we saw those the reinterpretation of everything and anything, leading to an increase in worries and fears.
[00:02:08] No one is addressing this, and in my opinion, this is a crucial communication problem. What about
[00:02:11] the relations between HDZ and IDS? That is also interesting,
[00:02:15] because we all know that IDS was divided between two
[00:02:19] representatives, Dalibor Paus was removed from the position of
[00:02:22] president of the club of representatives due to his views precisely on
[00:02:25] Gospić, so we will see how that party, which was clearly divided between
[00:02:29] a faction that would cooperate more with HDZ and a faction that does not see cooperation with
[00:02:32] HDZ as something good for Istria, will behave. Regarding that civic
[00:02:36] participation, if I may call it that, to translate
[00:02:39] what you said about Anglo-Saxon culture.
[00:02:43] We are missing that, uh, it seems that it was missing
[00:02:46] there in Gospić itself when let's leave aside the opposition and
[00:02:50] the ruling party, citizens wanted to ask some questions, uh,
[00:02:54] it seems that this distrust between citizens and
[00:02:58] government stakeholders is growing, regardless of the party, regardless of the party
[00:03:01] affiliation. Did we fail
[00:03:04] to build in the meantime, when something
[00:03:07] happens, that those whom we pay at
[00:03:09] said boils down to the state or local level sit down and answer questions directly, not
[00:03:13] necessarily through the media, uh, I agree that
[00:03:16] we haven't, especially politicians haven't built enough of these bridges,
[00:03:20] modes of communication that are direct, besides being unpleasant,
[00:03:23] but they are unpleasant, but that's the point of democracy,
[00:03:27] to listen, to communicate and most importantly, to participate, but we all
[00:03:31] have to take responsibility for ourselves. If we don't participate in
[00:03:34] democracy, there will be nothing left of democracy, from the fight
[00:03:37] for one's own park, from the fight for one's
[00:03:40] municipality, all the way to the fight for some local national issues, as
[00:03:44] the Gospić, Our Home initiative did. That's how you participate
[00:03:47] in democracy, that's how you solve some things that are important to people
[00:03:51] in the local community. And that's why I really commend it, I hope that
[00:03:55] all others who get involved in political processes will be
[00:03:58] much more engaged, and see how things can truly move
[00:04:02] forward from a standstill. Do you agree with some of your colleagues who claim that there is a sense
[00:04:06] of nervousness within the ruling party, precisely because of
[00:04:09] this case that we are now discussing here, because not
[00:04:13] everyone is satisfied with the way it is being handled? Well, I think there's no dilemma
[00:04:16] here, because off-the-record briefings in various portals with various
[00:04:20] views on the political situation are
[00:04:22] the same, uh, we have a problem, we have to solve it, so the admissions are
[00:04:26] open. On the other hand, Branko Bačić now, and Marija Vučić,
[00:04:30] who started changing the tone of
[00:04:33] communication, started acknowledging citizens' concerns and
[00:04:37] the slow reaction in the entire process. So I think
[00:04:41] we can all learn something from this, especially
[00:04:44] the ruling coalition. They are addressing, in
[00:04:48] their communication, the people who did this, but they are not addressing
[00:04:51] whether the system is set up in a way that minimizes
[00:04:55] the possibility of something like this happening,
[00:04:58] Wilson does not mince words, at and that, it seems to me, is what has been swept under the rug
[00:05:00] all this time. The system definitely needs to be reformed, there's no doubt about that, from
[00:05:04] the State Inspectorate, which obviously needs to undergo some internal procedures that need
[00:05:07] to be changed, because this level of corruption at
[00:05:10] the highest level should not be possible in a systematic
[00:05:14] waste management solution, and
[00:05:17] I think there is shared responsibility here, and counties
[00:05:21] and cities have their role in this. Not everything can depend on
[00:05:24] communal wardens who will see something and not see something on the ground, but it seems
[00:05:27] that on the ground, the situation is everyone is responsible, but
[00:05:31] no one is. When the system is set up like that, then it's a
[00:05:34] big problem, but that's actually what we are looking for,
[00:05:37] decentralization. On the other hand, then we have the problem
[00:05:40] of implementation, but it should be known who is responsible for what. Yes, but that
[00:05:44] decentralization is, it's not, everything can't come from the state, no one can, but
[00:05:47] decentralization requires
[00:06:05] permits were issued by local self-government units,
[00:06:08] the biggest mistake was definitely made by state institutions in the
[00:06:12] control process. Yes, from entering across
[00:06:14] the border to arriving, and what is ultimately done with it, where
[00:06:18] it ends up. Now we will see how this situation will be resolved. Now it is important, I think,
[00:06:22] first, to stop it. I mean, I am not an expert in
[00:06:25] that topic, but I follow it, so I can express my opinion. It is important to
[00:06:28] cover that waste so that it doesn't further seep into the soil, so that it doesn't further
[00:06:32] pollute. But I, for example, like, after all, I heard
[00:06:36] in your meter, the ideas to use the runway at Željava
[00:06:40] or that, actually,
[00:06:43] former, uh, it's not a factory, but it
[00:06:46] was actually an airport
[00:06:49] that was in the mountains and could be used for disposal or at least sorting
[00:06:53] of that waste in the first phase of remediation. I think these are some
[00:06:57] objective things that should be used, because there are no people there, and the concrete could
[00:07:00] block further dispersal of that waste.
[00:07:04] the opposition, in your opinion,
[00:07:08] how did it go through this? Most seems to have done
[00:07:12] well. "Considering that they really have that representative who
[00:07:15] pushed that story and comes here to me, we talked many times about
[00:07:19] Gospić, when it was definitely not a state story,
[00:07:22] uh, what about the others, what about SDP
[00:07:25] can we? Well, if we look at the first snapshot of the ratings, most
[00:07:29] and we can gained the most. SDP was even
[00:07:33] on a downward trend, now we will see, I think it will be a much better measurement, interesting, yes,
[00:07:37] a much better measurement will be, in my opinion, in the next
[00:07:40] month when everything calms down a bit, when..." people take a firmer stance,
[00:07:44] then we'll see what the situation is and what the trends are,
[00:07:48] but I think the opposition did part of the story
[00:07:51] very well and part not
[00:07:54] Troskot should be congratulated for his discipline, for getting
[00:07:58] information from citizens, helping them to promote this topic, but on the other
[00:08:01] hand, the expression "ecoterrorism," calling the Prime Minister
[00:08:04] an ecoterrorist, is simply not factually correct and does not
[00:08:07] contribute to any situation except increasing, increasing
[00:08:11] one's own visibility. This political communication, with which we
[00:08:15] started, thus gives the government
[00:08:18] the right to say that it is cheap populism and politicking, because in that part,
[00:08:21] everything good you've done is actually thrown
[00:08:25] aside, and that, in my opinion, is the lack of measure in the opposition
[00:08:28] often, but they go all the way so that some personal
[00:08:32] animosities are actually resolved by members of parliament or
[00:08:35] through microphones, then it actually becomes clear how toxic that is for
[00:08:39] the entire environment, how many
[00:08:57] you this: Ursula von der Leyen's speech, many
[00:09:01] beautiful words, few concrete plans, dates and solutions.
[00:09:05] Does the European Union have answers to the crises we are
[00:09:07] facing?
[00:09:10] The announcement of Canadian-European rapprochement provoked a fierce response from the White House,
[00:09:14] Trump threatens the European Union with high
[00:09:16] tariffs.
[00:09:19] Zoran Milanović at a diplomatic harvest, will he speak
[00:09:22] about events in the country?
[00:09:26] In the European Parliament, a plenary debate, which is the immediate cause
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[00:12:41] Towards the end of her speech, Ursula von der Leyen referred to
[00:12:44] Serbia, more precisely to the state honors at the funeral of Ratko Mladić in
[00:12:48] Belgrade. It seems that the half-hearted condemnation did not satisfy
[00:12:51] anyone except perhaps Aleksandar Vučić whom she did not even
[00:12:55] mention.
[00:12:58] Ursula von der Leyen, only after pressure from Zagreb and Sarajevo,
[00:13:02] finally spoke out with a message on social media, how
[00:13:05] horrified she was by the glorification of Ratko Mladić with state honors in
[00:13:08] Belgrade. In her State of the Union speech, she finally
[00:13:12] says it
[00:13:12] out loud.
[00:13:20] Unfortunately, essentially it doesn't go even a step further. The only difference is
[00:13:24] stormy.
[00:13:36] These words suffer from the same lack, warns the Croatian
[00:13:40] MEP. It is about, I would say, an ambivalent
[00:13:44] statement that there is no place in the European Union for glorifying war
[00:13:47] criminals like Mladić, so it was not said that there is no place for Serbia or those
[00:13:51] who glorify and support it, but that there is no place for glorification itself. This can now be interpreted
[00:13:55] in different ways. As Elmedin Konaković, the Minister of Foreign
[00:13:58] Affairs of BiH, already publicly criticized before,
[00:14:01] von der Leyen again decided not to mention the name behind
[00:14:05] everything, Aleksandar Vučić. No
[00:14:08] hint of sanctions against Serbia, and the European Parliament's rapporteur
[00:14:12] for Serbia proposed an end to accession
[00:14:15] negotiations. A much more serious question is what the European Union
[00:14:18] simply intends to do after convincing itself that it is a
[00:14:22] regime that glorifies war
[00:14:25] crimes. Should negotiations continue with
[00:14:28] such a government? Will any
[00:14:31] measures be introduced that will simply send a sufficiently strong,
[00:14:35] not only political, but also
[00:14:37] financial message to the authorities in Belgrade? We did not actually hear
[00:14:41] that today from Ursula von der Leyen. It's a wasted effort if Vučić can
[00:14:45] at such a moment pop over to Paris and hug
[00:14:48] Macron, points out another former foreign minister. The
[00:14:52] idea is to attract Serbia regardless of
[00:14:55] the government. Of course, many, and perhaps even Mrs.
[00:14:59] von der Leyen, would intimately prefer a student list, but the goal is to
[00:15:02] win over Serbia regardless of Vučić, preferably without him,
[00:15:06] isn't it? But with him, but look again,
[00:15:09] the question is what the government in Serbia wants, does the government in
[00:15:13] Serbia want it that way or does it want to continue
[00:15:16] dancing at multiple weddings? Influential American
[00:15:19] Republican Congressman Joe
[00:15:23] a congressional hearing he warns: "Vučić is preparing another electoral
[00:15:27] rigging, he says the largest Serbian oil and gas company
[00:15:30] is owned by Russia. Vučić has also bought and integrated
[00:15:34] Chinese military surveillance technology."
[00:15:37] sent a delegation to the funeral of dictator uh Komeni and
[00:15:41] Tehran alongside the delegations of Russia
[00:15:44] and China. These are actions that do not show
[00:15:47] a uh effort to uh to be
[00:15:51] part of western civilization, at the same time another
[00:15:54] award comes to Vučić for sitting on two chairs.
[00:15:57] Aleksandar Čeferin announces: "UEFA has officially made
[00:16:01] a decision, Belgrade will be the host of the UEFA
[00:16:04] European League final in 2029. On
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[00:16:10] Hrstić,
[00:16:11] N1.
[00:16:15] Božo Kovačević is waiting for us this time in London for a comment
[00:16:30] Ursula von der Leyen's speech. Many have already
[00:16:33] commented on it, yesterday Mirjana sat with me in the studio for a long time.
[00:16:38] and many of them are on the same track, it's a list of beautiful
[00:16:41] wishes, a lot of things from which nothing concrete can be
[00:16:45] read, concrete plans, concrete
[00:16:48] dates, uh, the way in which the
[00:16:52] European Union will actually deal with a whole range of challenges, someone
[00:16:55] commented, if those who vote for, I don't know,
[00:16:59] AFD or Le Pen listen to this, they immediately raised their percentage,
[00:17:02] because uh these speeches are those in which
[00:17:06] many citizens of the European Union have
[00:17:08] long been disappointed.
[00:17:12] That is true, but it shows the true
[00:17:15] state of relations between individual institutions
[00:17:19] of the European Union, although the President of the
[00:17:22] European Commission, the main executive body of the European
[00:17:25] Union, Ursula von der Leyen, is not in
[00:17:28] the position of a classic prime minister in relation to
[00:17:31] Parliament, because actually the scope
[00:17:35] of what she can promise
[00:17:38] uh greatly depends on what
[00:17:42] the members of the European Council think, i.e.
[00:17:45] the representatives of the states. And
[00:17:48] uh, she has warned several times that due to
[00:17:51] the lack of unity in the European Union, some
[00:17:55] policies cannot be implemented. She was most explicit
[00:17:59] in that regard when she mentioned Israel,
[00:18:02] because she
[00:18:06] mentioned that she... had proposed something, but
[00:18:09] that Europe failed to take a common position
[00:18:12] on Israel, and therefore she
[00:18:16] stuck to describing what
[00:18:20] is known to everyone and about which
[00:18:23] there will be no disagreements. Then she
[00:18:26] resorted to some, let's say, populist
[00:18:30] moves, inviting those entrepreneurs, that
[00:18:33] wounded little girl from Ukraine, as if...
[00:18:37] their presence
[00:18:40] would increase the efficiency of the policies
[00:18:42] of the European Union.
[00:18:45] She announced various
[00:18:48] initiatives about which agreement has probably already
[00:18:51] been reached within the European
[00:18:55] Council, which is the increase of demographic
[00:18:58] democratic resilience,
[00:19:01] then these initiatives for
[00:19:04] strengthening cybersecurity, which is all already
[00:19:07] actually part of normal practice.
[00:19:10] Yes, what about this part where she
[00:19:14] talks about Canada? A speech by
[00:19:17] the Canadian Prime Minister is expected today, so we are very
[00:19:21] interested in what he will say, but that idea of associated
[00:19:24] membership has already caused a whole series of reactions. Donald Trump also spoke out,
[00:19:28] saying that if it is something directed against the USA, I
[00:19:31] will impose large and high tariffs on the European Union.
[00:19:35] tariffs. Yes, that's an expected
[00:19:39] reaction from President Trump, given that he wants to annex
[00:19:42] the entire Canada. Here it
[00:19:46] was actually shown that
[00:19:49] what Ursula von der Leyen said in the initial part
[00:19:53] of her speech about
[00:19:55] the strategic autonomy of the European Union,
[00:19:59] that is finally coming to the fore. At one point she
[00:20:03] did not mention the United States as some
[00:20:06] rival or... God forbid, enemy,
[00:20:09] but she uh uh said that the European Union
[00:20:13] opposes uh threats to democracy,
[00:20:17] whether those threats come from
[00:20:19] the West or from the East, and that is
[00:20:22] actually a surprisingly clear
[00:20:26] message to President Trump. As for Canada's
[00:20:30] associated membership, uh it is clear
[00:20:33] that uh it is not possible under current...
[00:20:38] uh documents, under the Lisbon Treaties,
[00:20:40] to take a country into such
[00:20:44] a status, because these documents do not
[00:20:47] provide for it, but this is connected with... yet another
[00:20:51] paradox. Nominally, uh
[00:20:54] Canada's sovereign is uh
[00:20:58] the English king. We know that the United Kingdom
[00:21:01] left the European Union. Now a country
[00:21:05] that is under the sovereignty of the European king should somehow
[00:21:08] join the European Union. This is
[00:21:12] certainly uh both a Canadian and a European message
[00:21:16] to America that Europe will
[00:21:19] help Canada in an attempt, in case the
[00:21:22] United States tries to carry out a violent
[00:21:26] annexation of Canada, that is the only way it can be understood. How do
[00:21:30] you view this Security Council in which members of the European
[00:21:34] Union, Canada, Ukraine,
[00:21:37] uh, stood together? There was talk of a kind of
[00:21:40] counterpart to
[00:21:42] Article Four of NATO, that is perhaps the most accurate way
[00:21:46] to describe it. How does it
[00:21:50] look to you? Well, that reference to
[00:21:54] Article 4 of the NATO Alliance Charter, uh, should be
[00:21:58] viewed in the context of uh those
[00:22:01] security threats. That
[00:22:04] Article 4, uh, gives every
[00:22:07] NATO member state, and in the future this should apply
[00:22:11] to all members uh of the European Union, the right
[00:22:14] to request urgent consultations in
[00:22:17] case they are exposed to - direct
[00:22:20] danger. Actually, there is no reason
[00:22:24] for the European Union not
[00:22:28] to decide to apply Article 5, because the
[00:22:31] European Union uh also gives
[00:22:34] verbal guarantees uh to every member state that
[00:22:38] is attacked, the entire European
[00:22:41] Union will protect it, but these are so far
[00:22:44] all uh just words
[00:22:48] without real basis "in reality,
[00:22:51] because the European Union, and this is evident from
[00:22:55] a good part of Ursula von der Leyen's speech, is not
[00:22:58] yet sufficiently capable of
[00:23:01] independently
[00:23:03] reacting to these threats, but this is
[00:23:06] an announcement of what has been discussed for
[00:23:10] the past ten years since President
[00:23:13] Trump's first term, so
[00:23:17] work continues on establishing strategic
[00:23:21] autonomy. Biden's term was actually, as
[00:23:25] far as this aspect of the European Union's
[00:23:28] actions is concerned, a failure, because Europeans
[00:23:32] believed that Trump would not return to power and that relations between
[00:23:35] Europe and the United States would be
[00:23:39] more or less as they were before. However, that did not
[00:23:43] happen. Now it is uh a necessity that
[00:23:46] the European Union, if it wants to be an autonomous player in the
[00:23:50] system of international relations, must be able
[00:23:54] to defend itself. All of what Ursula von der Leyen
[00:23:59] the fact that the European Union might
[00:24:02] do everything necessary if all
[00:24:06] member states agree on it. She even said at
[00:24:09] one point that the European Union's decision-making process, I'm paraphrasing now,
[00:24:13] was not designed for the times we live in, as you and many others
[00:24:17] have said. "It's simply
[00:24:20] clear as day, however what was missing was, okay,
[00:24:24] so what now? Because when she spoke, do you remember
[00:24:28] that part about Israel and about Palestine,
[00:24:31] there remains this part where, yes, we said so, but all member
[00:24:35] states did not go in that direction.
[00:24:38] So, how to try to
[00:24:42] make certain decisions and thereby
[00:24:44] be a player on this world
[00:24:47] stage? Well, she said
[00:24:51] that administration needs to be reduced, that
[00:24:53] the decision-making process needs to be accelerated,
[00:24:57] all of this can be implemented
[00:25:01] if all
[00:25:04] member states agree, and
[00:25:07] uh, it seems to me that there is uh another
[00:25:10] dimension here, that is the coalition of the willing.
[00:25:13] The coalition of the willing manages to make decisions because
[00:25:17] there are no clearly defined procedures for
[00:25:20] decision-making and the rights of each of
[00:25:24] the members of that coalition. The coalition of the willing is,
[00:25:27] at least when it comes to relations with Russia,
[00:25:31] a step ahead of the European
[00:25:33] Union. Uh, and it seems to me
[00:25:36] that the coalition of the willing is trying to create
[00:25:40] circumstances in which the European Union will
[00:25:43] be forced to make the decisions that
[00:25:47] the coalition of the willing wants.
[00:25:50] Ursula von der Leyen did not explicitly say this, but in
[00:25:54] the context of relations with Russia, she mentioned countries that
[00:25:58] are not members of the European unions, with which the European
[00:26:01] Union is very successful. cooperates. This is again
[00:26:04] a paradox, within the European Union it is
[00:26:07] not possible to quickly make decisions, but the European
[00:26:10] Union, together with countries that are not members of the European
[00:26:14] Union, manages to make quick
[00:26:16] decisions, so we are faced with a series of paradoxes
[00:26:20] that all boil down to
[00:26:23] if the European Union wants
[00:26:27] to become an autonomous player in the system of international relations.
[00:26:30] sustavu međunarodnih odnosa.
[00:26:35] which the European Union was established, these are the Lisbon
[00:26:38] Treaties, had to be changed,
[00:26:42] uh, they would have to be changed so that
[00:26:45] this associated membership could be achieved, so if
[00:26:49] that change for associated membership starts, maybe
[00:26:52] it would be good to undertake
[00:26:56] other changes that will enable the central
[00:26:59] bodies of the European Union to, in the name of..." The European
[00:27:02] Union makes and implements decisions. We
[00:27:06] saw what happened recently when
[00:27:10] the President of the European Council tried
[00:27:13] to create conditions for the establishment
[00:27:16] of diplomatic contacts between Russia and the European
[00:27:20] Union. He was immediately attacked by the leaders of France, Germany and
[00:27:24] Poland. He must not do that. When
[00:27:28] Kaja Kallas announced the establishment
[00:27:31] of an advisory body that
[00:27:34] would advise the European Union on
[00:27:37] defense and security issues, she had
[00:27:41] to give up due to pressure from certain
[00:27:44] member states, and in fact, it is noticeable that in
[00:27:48] yesterday's entire speech, uh, Ursula
[00:27:51] von der Leyen, there was not a single paragraph for which
[00:27:54] we could say with certainty that
[00:27:57] the inclusion of that paragraph was proposed by Kaja Kallas, while
[00:28:00] for what concerns the Mediterranean, what
[00:28:04] concerns
[00:28:07] commissioners, members of the European Commission who
[00:28:11] were giving those inputs,
[00:28:13] and all that
[00:28:16] together indicates
[00:28:20] that, uh, the position
[00:28:23] of the President of the Commission is not easy and
[00:28:25] that Ursula von der Leyen
[00:28:28] spoke about what she believed the representatives
[00:28:31] of the member states wanted to hear,
[00:28:35] that the members of the European
[00:28:38] Parliament wanted to hear, and she made
[00:28:41] promises for which she hopes to get
[00:28:44] an offer, yes, now two more things I would like to comment
[00:28:48] with you, one is Hungary and
[00:28:51] the emphasis on that April 12th as the day when Hungarians
[00:28:55] actually returned to democracy, that is, a clear
[00:28:58] recognition that there was no democracy for a very long time.
[00:29:03] Then there is the funeral of Ratko Mladić, maybe you can
[00:29:06] link that, maybe not, I am interested in your
[00:29:09] interpretation. Well, she
[00:29:13] attributed to the European Union the credit
[00:29:17] for the change in Hungary, which
[00:29:20] is partially true, because there was a
[00:29:24] suspension of payments to Hungary from
[00:29:27] funds from the European budget
[00:29:30] and in the end, it did
[00:29:34] work. As for her reaction
[00:29:38] to the funeral of Ratko
[00:29:41] Mladić, it
[00:29:44] had already been announced before, because Marta Kos had already
[00:29:48] commented on it, the President of the European Council and Ursula von der Leyen
[00:29:52] had also commented, obviously there
[00:29:55] is an agreement regarding
[00:29:58] that. You are allowed to be horrified by what Vučić's regime
[00:30:03] did, what kind of staging of Mladić's
[00:30:06] funeral it did, but what
[00:30:09] could be expected from the President of the European
[00:30:13] Commission was missing, what the Commission will do
[00:30:16] in that regard. Based
[00:30:20] on what she said in the European Union,
[00:30:24] there is no place for those who glorify war
[00:30:28] criminals, this can
[00:30:30] be understood in two ways: that there is no
[00:30:33] place for Vučić and his government that organized
[00:30:37] that funeral, or
[00:30:40] that there is no place for Serbia if its citizens
[00:30:44] support Vučić in the next parliamentary
[00:30:48] elections. In that rather strained
[00:30:51] interpretation, we could understand her
[00:30:54] words as an expression of support
[00:30:58] for this student list.