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[00:00:00] to be outraged by what Vučić's regime
[00:00:03] did, what kind of production of Mladić's funeral
[00:00:07] it created, but what was missing
[00:00:10] was what one might expect from the President of the European
[00:00:13] Commission, what the Commission will do
[00:00:17] in this regard, based
[00:00:21] on what she said in the European Union,
[00:00:24] there is no place for those who glorify war
[00:00:28] criminals. This can
[00:00:30] be understood in at least two ways: that there is no
[00:00:34] place for Vučić and his government, which organized
[00:00:37] that funeral, or that
[00:00:41] there is no place for Serbia if its citizens
[00:00:44] support Vučić in the next parliamentary
[00:00:48] elections. In this somewhat stretched
[00:00:51] interpretation, we could understand her
[00:00:54] words as an expression of support
[00:00:58] for this student list, mm
[00:01:01] and the expectation of the European Union that this
[00:01:05] list will win in the next parliamentary elections in
[00:01:09] Serbia. A question for the end: the price of
[00:01:12] energy, something that is very important in this whole
[00:01:15] political story. It all started
[00:01:18] with the Russian aggression against Ukraine,
[00:01:22] the era of cheap energy ended, and now she's
[00:01:25] talking about the need to switch to electricity. These are ambitious
[00:01:28] numbers she presented yesterday, but
[00:01:32] they require a lot of time, and again there is no answer for the citizens of the European
[00:01:35] Union about how much and for how long, or will
[00:01:38] they perhaps have to pay a very
[00:01:41] high price for energy
[00:01:44] in the entire future period?
[00:01:47] Bab-el-Mandeb and Well, among other things, she said that Europe needs
[00:01:51] to be electrified, and previously she also spoke about
[00:01:54] the need for industrial strengthening of the European Union,
[00:01:58] especially in the context of competition
[00:02:00] with China, so we could recall
[00:02:03] Lenin's formulation, Soviets plus
[00:02:07] electrification plus industrialization, equals
[00:02:11] communism in his equation, in her equation, so
[00:02:14] electrification
[00:02:18] plus industrialization plus European values are what
[00:02:21] we want from Europe. She did not give concrete answers,
[00:02:25] with the fact that in the introductory part
[00:02:28] of her speech, she stated a notorious lie regarding
[00:02:32] energy from Russia, regarding toxic
[00:02:35] energy from Russia, because she said that Russia
[00:02:39] had cut off supplies to Europe, no, Europe decided not
[00:02:42] to buy Russian
[00:02:45] energy.
[00:02:47] Of course, when she talks about electrification, she
[00:02:51] actually wants to say that Europe needs to continue
[00:02:54] with the implementation of the green agenda,
[00:02:57] reducing the use of
[00:03:00] hydrocarbons and these
[00:03:04] fuels that emit
[00:03:07] greenhouse gases, but for this to
[00:03:11] succeed, she must produce
[00:03:13] her clean
[00:03:16] energy, and
[00:03:19] indeed, when and how Europe
[00:03:22] will do this, she did not say. She also did not
[00:03:26] the condemnation of say how Europe will reduce
[00:03:30] its dependence on these rare minerals
[00:03:34] uh which
[00:03:37] the European Union depends
[00:03:39] 90% on imports of. She announced
[00:03:43] negotiations with China, she said this in the
[00:03:45] context of an order
[00:03:48] established on rules, but from everything
[00:03:52] about how she positions herself,
[00:03:55] it is clear that she believes that,
[00:03:58] for example, when it comes to China, Europe
[00:04:02] will not define
[00:04:05] those rules with China, but Europe will relate
[00:04:08] to China in accordance with its own rules. I think
[00:04:11] that is wrong, and
[00:04:14] autonomous actors in the system of international
[00:04:17] relations insist on their
[00:04:19] autonomy, recognize the autonomy of other actors,
[00:04:23] and agree to define rules with
[00:04:26] them. If it is not so, then some
[00:04:29] define rules at the expense of others, some
[00:04:32] define rules against others. Here we now come
[00:04:36] in the context of energy to
[00:04:39] the relationship of the European Union towards
[00:04:42] Russia. So,
[00:04:46] Ursula von der Leyen was crystal clear in
[00:04:49] condemning Russian aggression and she is absolutely
[00:04:52] right in that regard, but
[00:04:56] she avoided saying anything
[00:04:59] about "how the European Union will deal
[00:05:02] with Russia in the future." She did not say anything
[00:05:06] other than that the European Union will help
[00:05:10] Ukraine in developing its
[00:05:12] capabilities to defend itself and she spoke about
[00:05:16] developing the capabilities of the European Union to defend
[00:05:20] itself more effectively than before against
[00:05:23] hybrid threats and other dangers. So
[00:05:26] in that regard, uh,
[00:05:30] the only thing that is certain is that
[00:05:33] Europe will continue
[00:05:37] to be in a state of war in its relationship
[00:05:39] with Russia. So
[00:05:42] she did not announce any initiative that would,
[00:05:46] besides deterring Russia from a possible attack
[00:05:50] on the European Union, that deterrence is
[00:05:53] achieved by arming Europe, she did not
[00:05:57] mention anything else, what
[00:05:59] the European Union will resort to
[00:06:02] in relation to Russia,
[00:06:06] so that this degree
[00:06:09] of uncertainty, or increased degree
[00:06:12] of probability that there will be war, is one
[00:06:16] of the results of this speech we heard
[00:06:19] yesterday. Mr. Kovačević, thank you for this
[00:06:22] analysis for Novi dan. Thank you,
[00:06:37] and speaking of the global energy market and potential new problems in
[00:06:40] global supply, the situation in Yemen is further complicated
[00:06:44] as the Houthis continue their advance towards the strategic strait of
[00:06:47] Bab-el-Mandeb. The UN Secretary-General states that military action
[00:06:51] alone cannot solve the crisis and calls for
[00:06:54] serious negotiations. He warned of the importance of freedom of navigation through
[00:06:59] called on all parties to
[00:07:01] dialogue.
[00:07:11] They have unilaterally opened up another front and are advancing toward
[00:07:15] the Baba, Mandeb Strait, uh, which
[00:07:19] is falling under their control. That jeopardizes not
[00:07:21] only um open navigation and
[00:07:25] free passageway for shipment of
[00:07:28] oil, but also it threatens internet
[00:07:32] cables uh that carry nearly one fifth of the
[00:07:36] world's web traffic right in that
[00:07:39] vicinity.
[00:07:41] So I want want to know, do you believe that in order to
[00:07:45] prevent these catastrophes from
[00:07:48] happening, in addition to the
[00:07:50] humanitarian
[00:07:52] catastrophe, that in the absence of specific
[00:07:56] Security Council Chapter 7 authorization,
[00:08:00] military action should be off the table, it's not a legitimate
[00:08:03] response and you still call only for diplomacy and
[00:08:07] dialogue with this terrorist organization? Well, military action
[00:08:11] is taking place as we. The problem is
[00:08:15] that it's very difficult to have a
[00:08:18] military solution for that problem and the
[00:08:21] experience of fighting in Yemen has
[00:08:25] demonstrated how complicated it is to have
[00:08:28] successful interventions in Yemen, look at
[00:08:32] history. That is why it is so
[00:08:35] important beyond
[00:08:39] the acts that you have mentioned and beyond
[00:08:42] affirming the need to preserve freedom
[00:08:46] of navigation in the Bab-el-Mandeb at all costs. It is
[00:08:50] very important to open
[00:08:53] the doors for serious negotiation,
[00:08:56] because military action is taking
[00:09:00] place, but it will not solve the problem by
[00:09:03] itself.
[00:09:06] Given the UN's historical role in resolving conflicts involving
[00:09:10] non-state actors, are there any back channel negotiations
[00:09:13] underway with the Houthis to reach an agreement with Saudi
[00:09:17] Arabia? Thank you very much. There is
[00:09:20] huge effort by our special
[00:09:24] envoys in relation to that,
[00:09:27] and we have clearly
[00:09:30] condemned the attacks by the Houthis to civilian
[00:09:33] infrastructure in Saudi Arabia and to the obstacles to
[00:09:37] navigation in the Bab-el-Mandeb. At the same
[00:09:40] time, we asked.
[00:09:59] Stay with Novi Dan, in the continuation we also bring you
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[00:13:58] And yet another court ruling against KBC Rijeka due to employee
[00:14:02] dismissals, the court provisionally determined that Predovan's
[00:14:06] dismissal was unlawful. There are a total of
[00:14:08] five such rulings now. Two are
[00:14:11] final, dismissals were issued while the hospital was led by the then Minister of Labor
[00:14:15] Alen Ružić. He states that he has no problem with reviewing his
[00:14:19] decisions, and the union demands financial criminal
[00:14:22] liability.
[00:14:25] The dismissal of Predovan was unlawful, the Rijeka Municipal
[00:14:28] Court ruled. This is the latest in a series of decisions
[00:14:32] in favor of the workers, but it is still not final. Predovan
[00:14:35] was dismissed during the term of the then director, and now
[00:14:39] Minister of Labor Alen Ružić. If there is any
[00:14:42] doubt about anyone's decisions, even my decisions when
[00:14:46] I was director, then let the system
[00:14:50] review it, there is no problem with that. I don't
[00:14:54] think I have any personal responsibility
[00:14:57] in that sense of personal responsibility, because
[00:15:01] I acted responsibly at all times,
[00:15:04] protecting, at that time, based on the facts I
[00:15:07] had, protecting the truth, protecting the interests
[00:15:10] of the institution. A total of five dismissals have been declared
[00:15:13] unlawful, two rulings, those in the cases of
[00:15:16] Slemenšek and Belac Lovasić are final. In a comprehensive
[00:15:20] response from KBC Rijeka, they did not answer our question
[00:15:24] about how much labor disputes have cost them so
[00:15:27] far, but they again emphasize. Due to
[00:15:31] unused, particularly expensive medicines worth over one million
[00:15:35] euros that expired and could not be used after discovery
[00:15:38] for the treatment of oncology patients at
[00:15:42] the then Clinic for Radiotherapy and Oncology, the KBC
[00:15:45] Rijeka administration had no choice but to ignore the existing
[00:15:48] situation, the damage caused to patients and the state budget,
[00:15:52] and was forced to make decisions on dismissing the then
[00:15:55] head of the clinic, the head nurse in charge of the clinic's ward pharmacy. At the same
[00:15:59] time, the KBC Rijeka administration made a decision to dismiss the
[00:16:02] then head of the clinic. The former director of
[00:16:06] KBC Rijeka says that he did his job conscientiously and in the
[00:16:09] interest of the healthcare institution, we have here
[00:16:12] a detail, for example, where KBC Rijeka
[00:16:15] paid, according to my knowledge, this was after my
[00:16:19] departure, but related to these cases,
[00:16:22] direct fines of 220,000
[00:16:26] euros for the actions of one of the employees reinstated
[00:16:29] to work, so I just want to emphasize that decisions
[00:16:33] are not easy, no one gives dismissals easily, and neither did I when I was
[00:16:37] director, but that every workplace,
[00:16:40] especially when you manage a large
[00:16:43] institution, brings challenges and
[00:16:46] responsibilities. A colleague from the government, Minister of Health Irena
[00:16:50] Hrstić, defends her colleague Ružić. From the top of my head,
[00:16:53] so, it was certainly there, so
[00:16:56] whenever you are a responsible person in the position
[00:16:59] of director or head of department or me as a
[00:17:02] minister, so there is always a situation where you sometimes have to make
[00:17:06] perhaps unfavorable decisions, but I will emphasize
[00:17:10] once again that for every dismissal or non-dismissal
[00:17:13] process, the courts that judge according to the letter of the law, no
[00:17:17] matter what someone thinks, so we are not talking about emotion
[00:17:20] towards the decision itself, but about a legally correct
[00:17:24] decision. The union says that KBC Rijeka is
[00:17:28] squandering public money by paying for illegal labor
[00:17:31] disputes, they expect every cent to be returned to the hospital's
[00:17:34] budget. Our imperative as a union will be
[00:17:38] that they are not only financially accountable, but also
[00:17:41] criminally accountable for the simple reason that they
[00:17:45] denied five of our employees
[00:17:48] the constitutionally guaranteed right to work, meaning they abused
[00:17:52] their position and authority, not only Director
[00:17:56] Ružić, but also the members of the Management Board who raised
[00:18:00] their hands and confirmed those unlawful disputes, although we
[00:18:03] convinced them that those disputes would
[00:18:07] end in favor of our employees. The Municipal
[00:18:11] Court in Rijeka overturned the decision on her extraordinary dismissal, and
[00:18:14] it is currently unknown whether the Rijeka
[00:18:18] hospital will appeal this ruling, as well as the Shaini ruling.
[00:18:21] Hanan Nanić, N1,
[00:18:23] Zagreb.
[00:18:26] And let's leaf through the daily press, and soon I'll be joined by my
[00:18:30] colleague from Telegram, Jasmin Klarić. Let's go in order, Novi list.
[00:18:33] State of the Union. The European Union gets its Security Council. With
[00:18:37] Canada and Ukraine,
[00:18:39] a new leaf begins. Saudi Arabia
[00:18:43] closed the oil pipeline, energy prices will
[00:18:46] skyrocket. New political
[00:18:50] conflict, Jadronković as a barrier to Porfirijevska
[00:18:53] left. That's what he called the left, namely.
[00:18:57] Večernji list, also, Ursula
[00:18:59] von der Leyen prepares Europe for a hostile world. Canada invited to
[00:19:03] associate membership of the European Union. The verdict of the Hague
[00:19:06] Court Hashim Thaci for war crimes shook
[00:19:10] Kosovo, riots broke out, because many perceive the verdict as an attack on
[00:19:13] the entire liberation war on
[00:19:16] the history of the creation of the Kosovar state. Igor
[00:19:19] Štimac, for Večernji list, I am the best possible candidate
[00:19:22] and negotiator for the unification of the right. Jutarnji
[00:19:26] list: Alarm in Europe due to the suspension, fear of
[00:19:30] oil shortages, Croatian reserves depend on Saudi
[00:19:33] Arabia.
[00:19:36] Thaci 20 years in prison, verdict for war crimes. Slobodna
[00:19:40] Dalmacija, Dragica Lemešić survived
[00:19:44] Brač's hellish night. A firefighter pulled me out of the sea and through
[00:19:48] the fire transferred me to Siguro. The affair from
[00:19:50] Split law about inappropriate behavior got an interesting
[00:19:54] twist. The professor claimed he didn't know the student, now he remembered, a witness
[00:19:57] colleague appeared. 24 sata, reconstruction
[00:19:59] of the horror on A3, he was speeding as if
[00:20:03] being chased. It was eerie, witnesses say.
[00:20:07] Glas Slavonije, grape harvest in Slavonia and Baranja starts earlier and earlier, the grape
[00:20:10] yield is smaller, but its quality is top-notch, wine
[00:20:14] prices, says the Baranja Winegrowers' Association, will not change,
[00:20:17] and finally
[00:20:18] Telegram,
[00:20:22] Croatian dream, the minister's fitness friend's new job
[00:20:26] shows how HDZ's personnel chaos works, a Lika
[00:20:29] activist brings the chronology of the cover-up, how after
[00:20:32] everything the prime minister put Capak
[00:20:35] in the council for waste, also
[00:20:39] Igor Štimac who claims that he is the best possible candidate and
[00:20:42] negotiator. Nobody feels sorry for a drunkard,
[00:20:46] an abuser, a murderer, a mother of six children, but his death in detention
[00:20:50] is a symbol of the collapse of this state, writes Sanja Modrić, and Jasmin Klarić
[00:20:54] has joined me. Jasmin, good morning, good
[00:20:57] morning. Well, all cheerful news,
[00:21:01] it's lively, yes, let's start from this clip we
[00:21:04] watched, then we'll switch to political communication, the situation in
[00:21:07] the ruling party, the situation in the opposition. Alen
[00:21:10] Ružić, Minister of Labor, a man who
[00:21:14] persistently, as the former head of KBC Rijeka,
[00:21:17] receives final rulings on
[00:21:20] illegal dismissals, still claims that he did everything to protect
[00:21:24] interests and with the best intentions. However,
[00:21:27] whether he acted lawfully or not, the court says he didn't, and he's the Minister of Labor, so
[00:21:31] the whole story reminds me a bit of Alan Ford, totally
[00:21:34] Alan Ford. So the Minister of Labor gave illegal dismissals, we have
[00:21:38] two final rulings that confirmed this, there's no "maybe
[00:21:42] it is, maybe it isn't" and he continues to say that he works responsibly and
[00:21:45] conscientiously, okay, let's say he does,
[00:21:48] but...
[00:21:51] Why then did you not act lawfully? I mean, one can act
[00:21:54] responsibly and conscientiously and unlawfully, obviously.
[00:21:58] Uh, it's a terrible problem, actually, the only luck for
[00:22:01] Ružić is that his party and government now have so many even
[00:22:05] bigger problems that this story passes lightly under
[00:22:08] the radar, but I really
[00:22:11] don't know where a Minister of Labor would survive with final rulings for
[00:22:15] illegal dismissals of employees in that
[00:22:19] public institution. What he did before, it's
[00:22:22] really, you said it well, Alan Ford, and his
[00:22:26] colleague Irena Hrstić, that statement
[00:22:29] was, uh, according to the letter of the law, and if not, but I understand, it's unclear,
[00:22:33] so they can't do anything but fumble and try
[00:22:37] to be unclear, because the only logical thing
[00:22:40] would be for someone to say, okay, thank you,
[00:22:44] colleague, you worked responsibly and conscientiously, but you know it's a bit awkward that
[00:22:48] your Minister of Labor is a man who issues illegal dismissals, meaning he violates
[00:22:51] labor law, so take a break, go to
[00:22:55] another position. Obviously, that's the only logical thing that can be
[00:22:58] said. Of course, no one in the government or the party dares
[00:23:02] to say that. Well, the opposition is sleepy, what about
[00:23:05] that story? Well, yes, because I'm saying, HDZ has far, far bigger
[00:23:09] problems and simply
[00:23:13] the opposition focuses on other things that are much
[00:23:16] more interesting and attract a lot of attention, but
[00:23:19] definitely. But yes, Jasmin, in an organized country,
[00:23:23] for example, let's take, what do I know, Denmark, if a minister
[00:23:26] of labor constantly receives provisional and then
[00:23:29] final judgments because he violated the law, which
[00:23:33] the opposition would push, but we have 37 tons of waste
[00:23:37] in Gospić, a good part of that waste is toxic,
[00:23:40] groundwater is polluted, the soil is polluted to
[00:23:43] a depth of, I don't know how many meters, 50 meters
[00:23:47] from the landfill, pollution has already been detected.
[00:23:51] It's clear to me that the story of
[00:23:54] Ružić's transgressions is somewhere under b, c, or d, in
[00:23:58] this situation, I think, and realistically
[00:24:01] compared to all the scandals we've seen, I mean,
[00:24:05] the former Minister of Health was selling
[00:24:08] with strange characters in a company
[00:24:12] overpriced devices in the system he was
[00:24:16] in charge of. So Ružić's sin is in comparison to
[00:24:20] Vili Beroš's sin, literally
[00:24:24] a speck under the fingernail, so I'm not surprised that this story hasn't
[00:24:28] received the attention it actually deserves, absolutely
[00:24:31] deserves it, but okay, let's move on to what we're watching,
[00:24:34] we're watching, besides, you and I will, of course, also
[00:24:37] touch upon Gospić itself, but in that Gospić we have
[00:24:40] communication, Porfirijevska
[00:24:42] left, little darlings, we'll play
[00:24:46] harder, uh, we have a lot...
[00:24:50] We also have a canopy, pumping, we have from the other
[00:24:53] side of the parliament,
[00:24:57] eco-terrorist, says Troskot to the prime minister,
[00:25:00] actually that whole mafia patron, mafia
[00:25:04] punishment, that's right, that whole set
[00:25:07] of what we've been talking about in the studio since this morning,
[00:25:11] what would have been scandalous five, let alone ten years
[00:25:15] ago, is now that, well, it's still
[00:25:18] scandalous. Of course, absolutely, but it's common, but
[00:25:22] common and doesn't attract as much attention anymore. I think
[00:25:26] you missed the most terrible statement that could be heard
[00:25:29] in parliament, which is far worse than all
[00:25:32] this
[00:25:35] uh, what you said, which are also very disturbing
[00:25:38] statements. HDZ MP Stipan
[00:25:41] Šašlin said in the debate to the opposition that
[00:25:44] the only real mistake of HDZ was that it did not
[00:25:48] clean up the mess more thoroughly
[00:25:51] in the 90s. I don't think we've heard anything like that
[00:25:55] yet, that's a new low that
[00:25:59] has been reached. Personally, I would kick that man
[00:26:02] out of the party right away if I were in HDZ. That's hate speech, that's an incitement to
[00:26:06] violence, that's
[00:26:09] horrible. I'm afraid we'll hear many more such
[00:26:12] sentences and threats in the next year and a half,
[00:26:16] and all the rest really
[00:26:20] shows the level of nervousness, how much the
[00:26:24] level of debate in Parliament has
[00:26:27] fallen,
[00:26:29] how much the opposition
[00:26:31] is, finally remove
[00:26:35] HDZ from power, but
[00:26:39] I think they were also killed by a strong word. I think this
[00:26:42] story, the difficult story about Gospić and everything that
[00:26:46] the government did and didn't do about that
[00:26:49] situation, there's no need to
[00:26:52] embellish it further with such hyperbolic epithets,
[00:26:56] there's simply no need. And the prime minister and his
[00:26:59] communication, that's him, he's...
[00:27:02] I now, after
[00:27:06] all these years, I'm starting to feel some sympathy, you know,
[00:27:09] like when you watch football I always root for the underdog
[00:27:13] team, unless my team is playing. Right?
[00:27:16] I can already see that in defense, the knives are already
[00:27:20] sharpened and drawn, being shown in public within
[00:27:23] the party, waiting for him. From the Square of Victims
[00:27:27] of Fascism, you can already faintly smell tar and feathers, with which
[00:27:30] HDZ traditionally covers every fallen
[00:27:34] president or female president.
[00:27:38] Hmm, but yes, I mean, his communication is
[00:27:42] completely unacceptable, misogynistic,
[00:27:45] uh, uh,
[00:27:47] toxic.
[00:27:50] The fact that someone can feel some understanding
[00:27:53] for a man who is clearly sinking is one
[00:27:57] thing, but what he's doing is completely unacceptable. I'm talking
[00:28:01] only about communication. "As for the rest, I won't
[00:28:04] even mention it. If swords have been drawn
[00:28:07] from their scabbards, why do you think that is? Because of Gospić, because
[00:28:10] of ratings, because of ratings and because of some sense that,
[00:28:14] but with those ratings, he is still,
[00:28:16] HDZ is still the relative winner, if we are to believe, it would be
[00:28:20] yes, it would be if all parties went independently, but SDP
[00:28:23] and Možemo will go together, unless
[00:28:27] something unforeseen happens, and then
[00:28:30] HDZ is already so far behind..." The question
[00:28:33] remains, is it possible, I mean, it is possible
[00:28:36] to catch up, of course, that deficit, but it will take a bigger
[00:28:40] miracle, and what is happening with Gospić
[00:28:43] and there will be other scandals for sure in the next
[00:28:46] year and a half, because you know yourself, wherever you
[00:28:50] scratch a little harder with your nail, blackness comes out,
[00:28:53] corruption comes out, favoritism comes out.
[00:28:57] I personally don't see a way
[00:29:00] in which... HDZ can repeat what it
[00:29:04] did in the last three election
[00:29:07] cycles at this moment,
[00:29:10] but as they say, a week in
[00:29:13] politics is a lot of time, so you can imagine how much a year and a half is,
[00:29:16] however, that trajectory is bad and worrying
[00:29:19] for HDZ, and within the party, regrouping for the
[00:29:23] time after Plenković is beginning.
[00:29:26] It used to be impossible for local officials to publicly
[00:29:29] refuse the idea of the prime minister that... that
[00:29:33] waste from Gospić and from other areas where something is wrong with the landfills
[00:29:37] is sent to their communities. Until now,
[00:29:39] Jandroković has not publicly boasted that
[00:29:43] he knows how to argue with Plenković. He
[00:29:46] did that the other day when he said he was following what
[00:29:49] Jandroković was saying. I mean, I don't know, okay, there's something
[00:29:53] to it that it's very important to follow what Jandroković says. The man was a close
[00:29:57] associate of all HDZ presidents in this century, literally
[00:30:01] all of them, so... "If he is angry about
[00:30:04] the fact that he is followed by being close to everyone,
[00:30:08] I mean, the fact is, you were
[00:30:11] close to everyone, I mean, you can't escape that, so
[00:30:15] it seems to me that
[00:30:18] we are watching a very interesting situation in HDZ,
[00:30:20] and
[00:30:23] it will be interesting to see how this unfolds in the next year and a half. So not just
[00:30:27] the general picture, the relationship between HDZ and the opposition, will
[00:30:31] the right succeed, well..." Captain Igor Štimac to unite
[00:30:34] the right, to consolidate, will he succeed
[00:30:37] in doing something and thus save HDZ in some way? It's interesting
[00:30:41] that too, HDZ used to work to break up
[00:30:44] the right, now they actually seem to be in
[00:30:48] a situation where they can only hope that
[00:30:51] it won't happen that the right
[00:30:54] goes atomized into the elections and stays somewhere below the electoral threshold,
[00:30:57] because those votes will mostly go to the benefit of the most...