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[00:00:00] "we have the opportunity,
[00:00:02] should be congratulated for his discipline, for during these 10 days that we'll be going, to go through almost all places in
[00:00:05] Serbia to cover as much of this
[00:00:09] area as possible, so that as many citizens
[00:00:12] hear about us, but not only hear, but
[00:00:15] see us. Students in the blockade of the University of Belgrade
[00:00:19] announced last night that police officers from the economic crime sector
[00:00:23] came to their warehouse where
[00:00:26] promotional material for future actions
[00:00:30] is located, and that the police officers had no warrant and that they entered private
[00:00:33] property. The timely reaction of lawyers, students and
[00:00:37] citizens once again showed that we will not give up, that they cannot
[00:00:42] the problem was not addressed at scare us. Such cheap attempts at intimidation will not even
[00:00:45] scratch us," the students announced on
[00:00:48] ideals of journalism and Instagram.
[00:00:50] US President Donald Trump says that he hopes for a swift end to the war with
[00:00:54] Iran, which has entered its seventh month, and claims that Tehran
[00:00:57] wants to reach an agreement and that he has received a direct message from
[00:01:01] Iran, but he did not reveal its content. Trump is expected
[00:01:04] to meet with leaders of Persian Gulf countries
[00:01:07] in New York on Tuesday on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly. According to
[00:01:11] Axios, they will discuss US plans for the post-war
[00:01:14] period. The conflict began in late February
[00:01:18] with US-Israeli attacks on Iran, after which Tehran
[00:01:21] retaliated with attacks on Israel and US bases in
[00:01:24] the Gulf.
[00:01:26] At least 21 people, including
[00:01:39] 11 children and six women, died in
[00:01:42] the collapse of a six-story building in Gaza City. More than
[00:01:46] 25 people were injured. The building, previously severely
[00:01:49] damaged in Israeli attacks, was a shelter for
[00:01:53] about a hundred displaced Palestinians.
[00:01:56] Rescuers pulled out 45 survivors
[00:01:59] during a 16-hour operation,
[00:02:02] while desperate residents searched the ruins
[00:02:05] with their bare hands. Civil defense
[00:02:08] warns that more than 2,000 damaged residential buildings in
[00:02:12] Gaza are at risk of collapse and calls for
[00:02:15] the delivery of heavy machinery and the provision of alternative accommodation.
[00:03:00] In 2023, Palestinian civil defense pulled out more than 800
[00:03:03] bodies, and the UN warns that at the current pace, the search
[00:03:07] could last at least another 10 years. The UN Human Rights Office
[00:03:11] claims that Israel restricts the entry of heavy
[00:03:14] machinery, expert
[00:03:16] engagement for any of the parties, given the personnel, and equipment for identification, including
[00:03:19] DNA kits. They warn that this could
[00:03:23] also lead to the loss of evidence needed for investigations into possible war crimes
[00:03:26] and call for effective investigations into the attacks.
[00:03:32] for crisis communication and "the remains of what appears to be entire families
[00:03:35] are now being unearthed at locations where that
[00:03:39] were pulverized by Israeli attacks. the remains recovered
[00:03:42] so far may only be the tip of the
[00:03:45] iceberg. much of gaza has been flattened by
[00:03:49] Israeli bombing or demolition and clearing by
[00:03:52] heavy machinery and
[00:03:54] explosives."
[00:03:57] The United States refused to issue a visa to Palestinian
[00:04:00] President Mahmoud Abbas to participate in the UN General Assembly
[00:04:04] in New York. The Secretary of State claims that visa
[00:04:08] sanctions against Palestinian officials have been extended due to their attempts
[00:04:12] to internationalize the Israeli-Palestinian
[00:04:15] conflict, as they state, by initiating proceedings against
[00:04:18] Israel before international courts. For the second year
[00:04:21] in a row, Abbas will thus not personally address world
[00:04:25] leaders. The General Assembly should vote
[00:04:28] on allowing him to address. The Palestinian authorities evaluated the US
[00:04:32] decision as detrimental to relations with the US and
[00:04:36] efforts to achieve a two-state solution
[00:04:39] via video.
[00:04:44] After two years of work, a part of the campus of the
[00:04:47] Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing in Unska
[00:04:51] Street has been renovated. The renovated BIC buildings were ceremonially opened, and students
[00:04:55] and employees received more modern
[00:04:57] lecture halls, laboratories, and
[00:05:00] funds from the Solidarity Fund, the Recovery spaces covering about 18.4
[00:05:02] meters. The renovation is worth more than 70 million euros,
[00:05:06] co-financed by European
[00:05:10] and Resilience Mechanism. of the state
[00:05:13] budget.
[00:05:16] We are very happy about the opportunity that we got to invest such
[00:05:20] large, such a large
[00:05:23] amount in the renovation of these two
[00:05:26] buildings. We got naturally earthquake-safe
[00:05:29] buildings, we got more energy-efficient buildings, we got
[00:05:33] buildings that function with renewable energy
[00:05:36] sources, we also got much
[00:05:40] better fire protection than these facilities.
[00:05:49] Parts of the country were hit by a storm accompanied by heavy rain and
[00:05:52] waterspouts. The meteo alarm warns of possible
[00:05:56] storms later in the day. Details are brought by meteorologist
[00:05:59] Tea Blažević.
[00:06:02] Warm greetings, dear viewers. A storm cloud has gathered over part of Istria.
[00:06:06] The photograph behind me illustrates what it looked like over
[00:06:10] Umag. After that, on the sea, more
[00:06:13] waterspouts formed. Here is one, as you can see,
[00:06:16] which is also warned about by, among others, the Metoalarm system
[00:06:20] of the State Hydrometeorological Institute, which has been raised to a higher level, precisely
[00:06:24] because of storms, waterspouts, heavy rainfall, and strong winds.
[00:06:27] The weather has changed because a frontal disturbance is moving over us.
[00:06:31] Therefore, it will continue to be mostly cloudy with rain,
[00:06:34] showers, and thunderstorms, primarily in the west of the country, but also in
[00:06:38] central areas, as well as on the northern Adriatic...
[00:06:42] while further south, in the far east, it will still
[00:06:46] be sunny. Precipitation will continue in the eastern
[00:06:49] areas later in the day, but less, while we expect
[00:06:52] it to remain mostly dry in the south
[00:06:56] throughout today. The wind has already started blowing from the north in parts
[00:06:59] of the interior, weak to moderate, mostly at sea, further
[00:07:03] blowing jugo. All this, of course, affects the temperature picture. We
[00:07:07] expect the values to be lower compared to yesterday, so
[00:07:11] from 21 to 25. It will be predominantly higher towards
[00:07:14] the east because precipitation arrives later
[00:07:17] in Dalmatia, up to 30. As for
[00:07:20] the rest of this week, tomorrow it will refresh a little more,
[00:07:24] there will also be frequent occurrences
[00:07:26] of rain and thunderstorms, especially along the Adriatic.
[00:07:30] This time, we expect rain in Dalmatia
[00:07:33] as well, i.e., showers accompanied by thunderstorms
[00:07:36] that may be more pronounced.
[00:07:40] And we have reached the end of the news, see you... Again at
[00:07:43] 5:30 p.m. for our daily review.
[00:08:14] And we will talk a little more about political communication in detail in the studio.
[00:08:17] Communications expert Maro Alavanja has joined me here in the New Day
[00:08:21] studio. Good morning and welcome. Good morning to you and your
[00:08:24] viewers. Just to clarify, currently you do not have any
[00:08:29] content of the conversation? No, no, I am not working for political parties
[00:08:32] currently. Let's go then in order, uh, political
[00:08:36] communication in Croatia, what your colleagues actually said,
[00:08:39] for example, Gabrijela Baškišić also says something...
[00:08:43] ten years ago was unimaginable or scandalous or perhaps
[00:08:47] headlines would scream and it would be analyzed in the studio from
[00:08:50] morning till night, it has become almost
[00:08:53] normal. Do you agree with that, and if you do, how
[00:08:57] did that boiled frog get cooked in the end? Mm, many
[00:09:01] factors are at play, I agree with my colleague Professor Kišićek.
[00:09:05] Uh, I think we live in an attention economy and
[00:09:09] everything is formatted that way on the one hand, social networks
[00:09:12] that reward cheap emotions and anger, on the other hand
[00:09:15] politicians who clearly cannot enter the media space
[00:09:19] without quips, without images and metaphors that often go
[00:09:23] too far, and the third factor in my opinion are the media that failed
[00:09:26] to be that kind of protector of public space
[00:09:30] enough, but decided to play the game of social networks precisely
[00:09:33] because of that spread, they did not manage well enough to preserve that
[00:09:37] educational moment and let these things into the space,
[00:09:40] now it is difficult to bring those standards
[00:09:43] back because not a single one actually if we keep the economic
[00:09:46] logic that because look at for example the Parliament, I unfortunately
[00:09:49] watched most of the Parliament sessions, especially around Gospić and
[00:09:53] so on, those 20-30% of people who really prepare
[00:09:57] have very substantive and formatted discussions that
[00:10:01] concern those people who are not personal relationships, animosities or
[00:10:04] similar, often unfortunately go under the radar, because they were late
[00:10:08] asking when the media had already done all the preparations for some of their
[00:10:11] news cycle. Or because they are not attractive enough to get through, and
[00:10:15] realistically they are substantive. That's the game of all these stakeholders
[00:10:19] in that ecosystem, of which someone has to start taking responsibility.
[00:10:23] I think the media have the strongest role here.
[00:10:25] Because they can very quickly bring about a paradigm shift. If
[00:10:28] we expect that from Big Tech and social networks, it won't happen. They live off
[00:10:32] that. If we expect that from politicians, then we are mistaken, because for the
[00:10:36] last 10 years it has been shown that we cannot trust them on that matter, although
[00:10:39] not all are the same. So, in my opinion, the media should take
[00:10:43] a much stronger role in filtering such things, because
[00:10:46] then there will simply be no more interest, mm, but then, besides
[00:10:50] public media financed by our money, the question of that
[00:10:53] economic logic arises, which again returns, it is very similar to
[00:10:56] that of social media, yes, that is
[00:11:00] unfortunately, that is unfortunately the reality and there
[00:11:03] is no model that has proven phenomenal and successful in this
[00:11:07] short period of humanity, to return
[00:11:10] to some of those settings or
[00:11:13] communication in the public space, so that is a topic that
[00:11:16] definitely needs to be discussed more, setting some new rules, new
[00:11:20] standards, because otherwise we actually have a very negative trend,
[00:11:23] mm, regarding this... "how all that changed over the last
[00:11:27] 10 years, let's say about ten years,
[00:11:30] mm, how did that happen, well I think, is it
[00:11:33] besides these social networks and everything, is it part of the political culture that is
[00:11:37] observed abroad, certainly, certainly, certainly, is it actually
[00:11:41] that easier path, but that easier path also has great consequences, because if
[00:11:45] the top of those whom we elected to lead the country communicates in
[00:11:49] this way, then everything that comes down, why would we care, absolutely,
[00:11:52] why would some local sheriff or some regional..." governor or some
[00:11:55] councilor respect the rules and norms of social
[00:11:59] communication, if, for example, the prime minister, president, or whatever,
[00:12:02] simply why then that social
[00:12:05] decency? I agree, that is indeed a big problem and
[00:12:09] I think we are making society much more toxic than it should be because of it. Substantive
[00:12:12] debate has actually fallen into the background. We are dealing with cheap emotions.
[00:12:16] Populism has greatly contributed to this. Extreme views have greatly
[00:12:19] predominated because the problems in our society are actually more
[00:12:22] complex than ever, and constantly...
[00:12:25] cheap and quick solutions are offered that are not realistic, which may sound good at
[00:12:28] first, but realistically have no substance underneath. Yes, but on the other hand,
[00:12:32] for example, elections are now, I think, in seven EU member
[00:12:35] states next year, in France
[00:12:39] and uh, Germany, certain trends are already visible. AfD has
[00:12:43] achieved an excellent result in the province, um,
[00:12:47] many, even educated people, vote for and consider Marine
[00:12:50] Le Pen. These are all those who offer precisely such solutions, because if you look at
[00:12:53] their content, what they say they will do
[00:12:56] is A, the question is whether it is possible, B, the question
[00:13:00] is what is the price? I mean, Meloni was like that too, if we take a
[00:13:04] European example, she reformed as soon as she came to power. That needs to be taken into
[00:13:07] account, and one needs to be realistic about it. On the other
[00:13:10] hand, this comes as a consequence of bad governance, bad
[00:13:13] communication of all these years by mainstream parties. We have to be honest, people are simply
[00:13:17] disappointed with the way things function. On the other hand,
[00:13:20] it has never been harder to be a politician, honestly, and
[00:13:24] actually that's now... that interplay of all those stakeholders, as I said,
[00:13:27] Le Pen is not from yesterday, it's a wave that comes in multiple
[00:13:30] times, it was defeated and AfD was also postponed
[00:13:34] actually, but since nothing has changed much in the meantime,
[00:13:37] those same people are coming back, and the problems have remained the same, or
[00:13:41] grown. Let's go back to communication in Croatia, the Gospić case, from
[00:13:44] a communication perspective, how it was communicated from the position
[00:13:48] of the government, from the position of the initiative Gospić is our home,
[00:13:52] the opposition, well actually that's a phenomenon. An informal case study
[00:13:57] communication that I am sure will be taught in faculties
[00:14:01] across the country and maybe even wider because it had very big
[00:14:05] consequences not only on the government's rating, similar relations within
[00:14:08] the coalition, but on various micro-environments that
[00:14:11] now, as Professor Bagić said, have the so-called Nimby effect, not in my
[00:14:15] backyard, so they don't want to take on the remediation
[00:14:18] of the political damage of the ruling coalition in their backyards.
[00:14:22] Some communicate this publicly, if so. Uh, in the end,
[00:14:26] members of HDZ or members of coalition parties
[00:14:29] in their local communities, so uh,
[00:14:33] if we add to that the initiative which communicated very well, turned
[00:14:37] a local problem into a national issue par excellence, after
[00:14:40] two years of disciplined effort then it's actually a very, very
[00:14:44] interesting case study from a sociological but also communication
[00:14:48] perspective, we'll see how it all plays out, but it was precisely with your
[00:14:51] colleague Hanan that I was a couple of weeks ago when there was an extraordinary
[00:14:55] session, I warned that the biggest risk for the government and
[00:14:58] HDZ was the so-called snowball effect, if another ball of events
[00:15:02] starts rolling, if the process gets out of control, as it
[00:15:06] obviously did, much
[00:15:08] earlier than those prime minister's press conferences, to be honest,
[00:15:11] then that thing, that story becomes uncontrollable, it can start
[00:15:15] causing great damage, now it is actually still the number one topic for a month
[00:15:19] now, how communication changed, I remember very well
[00:15:22] a couple of months ago, maybe even more
[00:15:25] than that, the co-ruling parties somehow,
[00:15:29] even those parliamentary questions, they were from earlier, Mrs. Rešković
[00:15:33] or Mr. Troskot, you know, that was, don't bother us with
[00:15:36] that. "Then it was, no, we are
[00:15:40] here, what are you talking about? So, a kind of minimization,
[00:15:43] de-dramatization of the situation, then all that changes, now we are
[00:15:47] slowly hearing, I heard Minister Vučković yesterday, how timidly, but
[00:15:51] surely, she is already slowly admitting that the ministry
[00:15:55] could have done better. Branko Bačić did that, the new
[00:15:58] chief state inspector, whom we finally have, did that.
[00:16:02] That process is changing, it is changing because, in my opinion, the mistake was in
[00:16:05] the beginning in understanding the choice. of the problem, that was attributed to
[00:16:09] opposition activity, the opposition realistically latched onto social
[00:16:12] initiatives, that is, the initiative Gospić is our home. This was
[00:16:16] a crucial communication mistake, because
[00:16:19] the source, but they started dealing with some political context, and that
[00:16:23] further motivated people to come out in large numbers to protest, mm,
[00:16:27] how much damage can there be if the avalanche continues, for example,
[00:16:30] today Gospić will be discussed in the European Parliament indirectly,
[00:16:34] but it will. Then the people of Gospić are going. "to
[00:16:38] Brussels, as far as I know, it seems that this story continues. The story
[00:16:42] continues, the damage actually depends on how, among other things, the
[00:16:45] government will approach all other steps. Will this scientific
[00:16:49] council contribute to informing the public or will it be something completely different and
[00:16:52] play some political role? What do you even think about the idea of a scientific council, which also
[00:16:56] caused a whole series of reactions, because of
[00:16:59] the appointment of Kruno Capak, but realistically, I have no problem with having much
[00:17:02] more informal views, much more scientific facts discussed in the media,
[00:17:06] and some things explained." That moment where Dorch releases
[00:17:10] the findings for the first time, which were actually the
[00:17:13] key trigger for this whole story, and then he doesn't allow
[00:17:16] the experts who worked on it to explain them publicly,
[00:17:20] opens up a lot of space for reinterpretations, for misinformation,
[00:17:23] and eventually even for false political point-scoring. One
[00:17:27] also has to be honest here. Now we have a whole
[00:17:30] communication chaos which we will see how it unfolds in the ratings,
[00:17:34] and we will see how much the government's actions will be able to follow the
[00:17:37] process. What about Našice and Istria,
[00:17:41] or Raša? There are a lot of events there. Istria is a bit
[00:17:44] more "brave" in quotation marks. Našice is preparing some informal protests, as far as I saw, on
[00:17:47] Saturday, but there is this civic resistance, and there are also political
[00:17:51] repercussions. Yes, actually it is now spreading capillarily to those
[00:17:55] locations. First, HDZ mayors refused to take part in
[00:17:58] the remediation due to their own problems, both in Zaprešić and in Bjelovar,
[00:18:02] Hrebak, and in Karlovac and so on. Now we have many such locations
[00:18:06] that are becoming new hotspots. The second thing is that
[00:18:09] the media discover, and citizens report, various
[00:18:13] dumps across Croatia. This also fuels the story further. If
[00:18:16] we now return to Istria and Našice, these are perhaps the most egregious examples because
[00:18:20] 300 tons of that waste ends up there,
[00:18:24] divided between two cement factories. Uh, in
[00:18:27] Istria it had a serious effect. At 3:30 on Tuesday there was a protest
[00:18:30] in Raša. That's a strange time, but it managed to gather between 500 and
[00:18:34] 700 people, which is no small thing. If the time had been different, "the turnout
[00:18:38] would surely have been higher. After all, it's not a big place either,
[00:18:41] it's not a big place, but okay, Labin is also close, there are now a lot
[00:18:45] of interested people in Labinština and Barbanština, and among
[00:18:48] other things, I am personally interested in the municipality of Raša, because it is very
[00:18:52] important to me, uh, from some of my personal reasons,
[00:18:55] and actually we have a good thing, and how do the
[00:18:58] citizens feel when you already know them? They are very dissatisfied, very dissatisfied because they have
[00:19:02] the feeling that they are actually, I mean, generally, there is much more
[00:19:05] than just some kind of relationships, problems, and projects dragging on in
[00:19:09] that local community, and this was actually the drop that spilled the beans,
[00:19:13] the cup, excuse me. The protest was, it can be beans, it can be beans,
[00:19:17] uh, not only was the protest strong
[00:19:21] that this tremor continues in Istria, an extraordinary session
[00:19:24] of the Istria County Assembly was convened, meaning it has consequences
[00:19:28] on political relations within the county, so it will be
[00:19:31] very interesting to watch all these dynamics. We'll see what happens in Našice on Saturday,
[00:19:35] and what citizens say is that they simply don't want that to happen
[00:19:38] there anymore. Actually, I think the common denominator is distrust,
[00:19:41] distrust, even rational citizens whom I saw in
[00:19:44] Vox Populi and read comments,
[00:19:47] uh, simply no longer have trust in those institutions that tell them
[00:19:50] what to do with that waste. On the other hand, there is no
[00:19:54] communication or openness from Holcim to calm
[00:19:57] this situation, to present studies, to hold a town
[00:20:01] hall meeting like in America or Great Britain, where you actually answer
[00:20:04] those concerns at a public forum. And everyone has somehow retreated
[00:20:08] into a defensive posture, leaving an empty space for reinterpretations of everything,
[00:20:12] and the growth of worries and fears. No one is addressing that, which is, in my opinion,
[00:20:16] a key communication problem. What about the relations between HDZ and IDS?
[00:20:20] That's also interesting, because we all know
[00:20:23] that the IDS split between two representatives, Dalibor Paus was
[00:20:26] removed from the position of parliamentary club president because of his views
[00:20:30] on Gospić, so we will see how
[00:20:33] that party behaves, which is obviously still divided since the
[00:20:37] local elections between a faction that would cooperate more with
[00:20:40] HDZ and a faction that does not see cooperation with HDZ as a good thing for
[00:20:44] related to that civic participation, if I may put it that way,
[00:20:47] to translate what you said regarding the vocal
[00:20:51] culture, we are missing that, it seems, well, it was missing
[00:20:55] there in Gospić itself when people, let's put aside the opposition and
[00:20:58] the ruling party, citizens wanted to ask some questions, uh,
[00:21:02] it seems that this distrust between citizens
[00:21:06] and stakeholders of power is growing, regardless of the party, regardless of the party
[00:21:09] affiliation. Did we fail to build
[00:21:12] in the meantime, when something happens, that those we pay at
[00:21:15] the state or local level sit down and answer questions directly, not necessarily
[00:21:19] through the media, uh, I agree that we have not
[00:21:23] sufficiently, especially politicians have not sufficiently built those bridges and
[00:21:27] immediate communication methods, except before elections, they are unpleasant, but they
[00:21:30] are unpleasant, but that is the point of democracy, to listen,
[00:21:34] communicate, and most importantly, participate, but here we all have to
[00:21:38] take responsibility for ourselves, if we do not participate in democracy,
[00:21:41] democracy will be nothing, from the fight for one's own
[00:21:45] park, from the fight for one's municipality, to the fight for
[00:21:48] some local national issues, as the initiative Gospić is our
[00:21:52] home did, that's how you participate in democracy, that's how some
[00:21:56] things that are important to people at the local level are resolved,
[00:21:59] and that's why I truly commend, I hope that
[00:22:03] all others who get involved in political processes will be much
[00:22:07] more engaged and look at how things can actually move from a dead
[00:22:10] end. Do you agree with some of your colleagues who claim that there is
[00:22:14] nervousness within the ruling party precisely because of
[00:22:18] this case that we are now discussing, because not everyone is satisfied
[00:22:22] with the way things are handled? Well, I think there's no dilemma there, because the off-the-record
[00:22:25] briefings in various portals with various views on
[00:22:29] the political situation are the same: "we have a problem,
[00:22:32] we must solve it." So, acknowledgments are open. On the other hand, Branko
[00:22:36] Bačić, and now Marija Vučković, have started to change their tone
[00:22:40] of communication. They have started to acknowledge citizens' concerns and
[00:22:43] the slow reaction throughout the process. So, I think
[00:22:47] that we all can learn something from this, especially
[00:22:51] the ruling coalition, addresses, they address in
[00:22:54] their communication the people who did that, but somehow it's never
[00:22:58] addressed whether the system is set up in a way
[00:23:01] that minimizes the very possibility of something like that happening,
[00:23:05] and that, it seems to me, is what is constantly swept under the
[00:23:09] table. The system definitely needs to be reformed, there's no doubt about that, from the State
[00:23:12] Inspectorate, which obviously needs to go through some internal procedures that need to be changed,
[00:23:16] because this level of corruption at the highest level
[00:23:20] should not be possible in some systemic solution for waste
[00:23:23] management, and I think there
[00:23:27] is shared responsibility here, and counties and cities have their role
[00:23:30] in that. Not everything can depend on communal wardens who will see something
[00:23:34] and not see something else on the ground. On the ground, what happens is that
[00:23:38] we all are, but no one is. When the system is
[00:23:41] set up like that, then it's a big problem, but that's
[00:23:44] actually what we are looking for, decentralization. On the other hand,
[00:23:47] then we have a problem in implementation, rather than knowing exactly who is
[00:23:51] responsible for what. Yes, but decentralization is, it's not, it's not
[00:23:54] that everything can come from the state, it's not. But decentralization requires
[00:23:57] money. Okay, that's now a political debate for politicians, it's
[00:24:00] like you give me a lot, you tell me here are your free hands, do whatever
[00:24:04] you want, with, I don't know, 10 euros, I mean
[00:24:08] I'm exaggerating, but you understand what I want to say, clearly, uh, I think that
[00:24:11] even if permits were issued by
[00:24:15] local self-government units, the biggest failure was definitely
[00:24:18] made by state institutions in the control process, from
[00:24:21] entry across the border to arrival
[00:24:24] and what is ultimately done with it, where it ends up. Now we will see how
[00:24:28] this situation will be resolved. Now it is important, I think, first to stop it.
[00:24:31] m I don't think I'm an expert on that topic, but I follow it, so I can
[00:24:35] express my opinion. The important thing is to cover that waste so that it doesn't further
[00:24:38] seep into the soil, so that it doesn't further pollute. But I actually
[00:24:42] like, I've heard them in your meter, ideas to
[00:24:46] use the runway in Željava or that or that...
[00:24:50] actually the former mm not
[00:24:53] a factory, but it was actually an mm
[00:24:56] airport that was in the mountains that can be used for
[00:25:00] disposal or at least sorting of that waste in the first phase of
[00:25:03] remediation. I think these are some objective things that need to be used because there are
[00:25:07] no people there. Concrete could block further
[00:25:10] spreading of that waste. Of course, let me ask you something else for the end.
[00:25:14] The opposition, in your opinion, how did it go through this?
[00:25:18] Most seems to have... done well, considering that they indeed have
[00:25:22] that representative who pushed that story, and he comes here to
[00:25:25] me, we talked many times about Gospić when it definitely wasn't
[00:25:29] a national story. Uh, what about
[00:25:32] the others, what about SDP and Možemo? Well, if we look at
[00:25:36] the first snapshot of the rating situation, Most and Možemo got the most.
[00:25:39] SDP was even in a downward trend. Now we'll see, I think
[00:25:43] a much better measurement will be interesting, yes, a much better measurement will be, in my opinion, in
[00:25:47] the segment of next month when things calm down
[00:25:50] and people take even firmer stances, and then we'll see what the
[00:25:54] situation is and what the trends are. But I think
[00:25:58] the opposition did part of the story very well, and part
[00:26:01] not. Mm. "Trosku
[00:26:05] getting information from citizens, helping them in
[00:26:08] promoting that topic, but on the other hand, the statement about ecoterrorism,
[00:26:12] calling the prime minister an ecoterrorist, that's simply not factually correct and does not
[00:26:16] contribute to any situation except increasing, increasing
[00:26:19] visibility, it's actually part of this political communication with which we
[00:26:23] started, so it then gives the government the
[00:26:26] right to say that it's cheap populism and politicking, because in that part
[00:26:30] everything good you did is then put into the background
[00:26:33] and that's, in my opinion, that lack of measure in the opposition
[00:26:36] often, instead they go all the way so that some personal
[00:26:40] animosities are actually resolved by parliament members or
[00:26:44] through microphones, then you actually realize how toxic that is for
[00:26:47] the whole environment, how many cascading consequences it will have? Of course, and it
[00:26:51] already does. Yes, thank you for your guest appearance. Thank
[00:26:53] you.
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