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[00:00:02] there is also imported hazardous waste [00:00:05] from [00:00:07] Slovenia and Germany, including medical waste, [00:00:10] the perpetrators allegedly earned more than 4 million [00:00:14] euros, however the procedure is still ongoing, [00:00:17] all this leaves one speechless, [00:00:21] but fortunately cooperation between Croatian [00:00:23] and European [00:00:26] very often soils and authorities is functioning, so that certain... certain [00:00:31] profits were [00:00:32] confiscated, [00:00:38] this is really an example [00:00:40] of how the fact that we do not have control at [00:00:44] the borders can be dangerous and that is why we need [00:00:47] very very strict sanctions for those who are [00:00:50] responsible, the competent authorities also [00:00:54] need to review this given [00:00:56] that [00:00:59] it should not have happened that waste came [00:01:03] to Croatia, we need to do everything we can to [00:01:06] protect our fellow citizens from such [00:01:09] dangers and [00:01:12] we also need to ensure that [00:01:15] political [00:01:17] forces, [00:01:23] so, we see how they behave when it comes to [00:01:26] waste management, we saw that in Saxony-Anhalt. [00:01:30] The Greens in previous years [00:01:34] failed to close a dangerous [00:01:37] landfill which led to [00:01:40] groundwater contamination. That is precisely [00:01:43] why [00:01:46] there should be no room for activism [00:01:49] in politics. Environment and politics [00:01:51] should not be in competition [00:01:55] with each other. The situation is not black or white and that is why [00:01:58] we all need to work together. [00:02:02] I open the discussion, Tomislav Sokol has [00:02:05] the floor, you have the option of a blue card. Vice-President, [00:02:09] Commissioner, colleagues. Transboundary transport [00:02:12] of illegal waste is a Croatian, but a European problem and therefore it must [00:02:16] be approached from a European level. Waste mafia does not know [00:02:19] state borders and citizens have the right to be concerned. Therefore our [00:02:23] response must be joint, fast and effective. I propose three [00:02:27] concrete steps. First, a specialized [00:02:31] operational group that will connect police, customs, environmental [00:02:34] and financial bodies, conduct joint investigations, break up [00:02:38] criminal networks and track their money. Second, when [00:02:42] illegally dumped waste threatens human health and the environment, Europe must be able [00:02:46] to react immediately and help in remediation through the Union [00:02:49] Civil Protection Mechanism. The cost of remediation must not be paid [00:02:53] by citizens, but by those who caused the damage. In addition [00:02:56] to this, we must link the European digital system for tracking waste shipments [00:03:00] with national data so that we can detect suspicious flows in time and [00:03:04] prevent illegal dumping. And third, [00:03:07] we must enable citizens who suffer damage to have collective legal protection [00:03:11] and fair compensation. Europe must put an end to criminals who profit [00:03:14] from illegal waste, and leave the consequences of pollution to our [00:03:18] citizens. Therefore we need better control, faster reaction and [00:03:22] a common fight against the waste mafia. Thank [00:03:24] you very much. [00:03:30] Mr. Sokol, you have a request for a blue card from [00:03:34] Ms. Jerković, do you accept [00:03:35] it? [00:03:40] Colleague Sokol, it is good to hear your recommendations, [00:03:43] but they are somewhat late and it is difficult for them to [00:03:47] free the Croatian state from its responsibility, because waste has [00:03:51] been entering Croatia for years without any control, it ended up where it should not have, [00:03:55] caused consequences that it should not have, so international [00:03:58] crime cannot be the reason for the malfunctioning [00:04:01] of Croatian and state institutions, if you do not [00:04:05] debate, this see the political responsibility of the Croatian government and the Prime Minister then you really [00:04:09] have a very strange understanding of political [00:04:12] responsibility. [00:04:18] Colleague Jerković, so first, here we are talking [00:04:22] about this case, many other cases and the system [00:04:24] needs to be adapted, the system needs to be improved so that such [00:04:28] things do not happen again and that there are indeed gaps at the European level that need to be [00:04:32] resolved, so we must think about the future, not just try [00:04:36] to score points on this. As for the Croatian government, [00:04:39] the Croatian government, as other colleagues here have said, is working, working on [00:04:43] remediation, uh, perpetrators, potential perpetrators will be [00:04:47] sanctioned, that is for sure, procedures are underway, I am sure that [00:04:50] in the end the whole situation will be resolved, [00:04:54] although it is clear to me that citizens are concerned, they have the right [00:04:58] to that concern, but... I think that the government is doing its job very well [00:05:01] and that the problem [00:05:02] will be solved. [00:05:07] Thank you, the next speaker is Mr. Gunter [00:05:10] Zidl. [00:05:18] Commissioner, President, we are talking about protecting [00:05:21] people from toxic substances in [00:05:23] Europe, [00:05:26] we should talk about this more often, because one thing is clear, in Europe we have [00:05:29] a serious problem, Europe [00:05:32] is actually creating a serious problem, [00:05:35] because eternal chemicals [00:05:38] and so on. [00:05:42] are produced through human [00:05:44] activity [00:05:48] and end up in the environment [00:05:50] due to disposal, for example, [00:05:54] pesticides are also problematic in some [00:05:57] areas, the European Union is taking measures to [00:06:01] avoid the harmful effects of these things, but in some other [00:06:05] areas the EU does not monitor the situation [00:06:09] and does not do what it should to [00:06:12] reform the system, the Chemicals Agency recommends [00:06:16] that we withdraw some chemicals, we [00:06:19] procrastinate, [00:06:23] we see an increase in cases [00:06:26] of cancer [00:06:29] and various other diseases, [00:06:32] we must change [00:06:33] course, [00:06:37] this is not something where member states can act [00:06:40] alone, we must... protect people from [00:06:43] toxic substances and we must ensure this throughout [00:06:47] the European Union. [00:06:48] Thank you. [00:06:51] Colleague Tilly Metz is next. [00:07:08] It's the quality, not the height. [00:07:11] Dear President. Mr. Chairman, [00:07:14] Commissioner, in yesterday's address on [00:07:17] the State of the Union, President von der Leyen said [00:07:20] how precious water is, [00:07:24] precious for whom, for industry, for farmers, for food [00:07:27] security, yes, but she did not mention people and their [00:07:31] fundamental right to have access to clean water [00:07:34] free of toxins. Look, [00:07:37] for example, Gospić in Croatia, thousands of tons [00:07:40] of hazardous waste. Yes, with PFAS, it was illegally [00:07:44] imported and dumped into nature, this is [00:07:48] directly related [00:07:50] to drinking water, citizens raised [00:07:54] the alarm, but institutions are not reacting, this [00:07:58] happens when protective measures do not [00:08:00] work, but Europe is going in [00:08:04] the wrong direction, weakening in the omnibus [00:08:07] and under the guise of simplification [00:08:10] we are celebrating the protection of the city, we are weakening key [00:08:14] protective measures against toxic substances, I tell [00:08:18] you colleagues, protecting citizens is not [00:08:21] bureaucracy, clean water is not a burden, but a right, [00:08:25] our health must never be the price [00:08:28] of deregulation. [00:08:32] Thank you very much, colleague Kulja is [00:08:35] next. [00:08:39] Thank you, Commissioner, colleagues. [00:08:44] More than 300 [00:08:46] locations have been identified in Hungary this year where [00:08:49] waste from [00:08:53] Austria contaminated with asbestos was used [00:08:56] to asphalt [00:08:59] roads where Hungarian families work, where Hungarian [00:09:02] children live, as a doctor, I know exactly what that means, [00:09:06] people inhale these asbestos particles [00:09:09] then they enter the lungs. [00:09:12] where it causes disease not today or tomorrow, but in 20, [00:09:16] 30 years, [00:09:20] it causes mesothelioma, a very aggressive [00:09:24] disease, unfortunately there are [00:09:27] legal loopholes [00:09:30] in member states and at the European Union level, these companies [00:09:34] use these loopholes [00:09:36] to profit, they don't care [00:09:39] about poisoning citizens. [00:09:45] Europe has done a lot to protect citizens, but as we see from [00:09:49] this example, there are still many loopholes in the law that need [00:09:52] to be closed, because human health is simply [00:09:56] something that should not be negotiated. [00:09:59] Thank you, [00:10:02] Laura Bajjin Sereza is next. Thank you, [00:10:05] today I want to talk to you about Gospić in Croatia where [00:10:09] citizens have been living next to illegally buried [00:10:12] waste for too long, tens of thousands [00:10:16] of tons of potentially hazardous [00:10:19] waste still needs to be removed, [00:10:21] additional quantities are buried there... [00:10:25] citizens heard about [00:10:27] the extent of this problem not because the system works, but because it [00:10:31] failed them, that is not good enough, people must not [00:10:34] wait until pollution is discovered [00:10:38] before the authorities act, [00:10:41] damage should be prevented, not just [00:10:45] offer excuses after the waste [00:10:49] is discovered, let the case of Gospić be a reminder that [00:10:52] citizens have the right to know who allowed this to happen, [00:10:56] who failed to protect them and who will be responsible for [00:11:00] all of this, [00:11:00] thank you, [00:11:05] thank you, colleague Vajc is next, [00:11:08] thank you chairman, commissioner, [00:11:12] an apple a day keeps the [00:11:15] doctor away, we tell children that every day, fruits [00:11:19] and vegetables should be a healthy choice, but [00:11:22] unfortunately more and more PFAS residues... are found in fruits [00:11:25] and vegetables and we use these substances in agriculture, [00:11:29] in pesticides and contaminate not only [00:11:33] our children, but all citizens, PFAS, so-called eternal [00:11:36] chemicals, are linked to cancer, [00:11:39] liver disease, reduced fertility, this is [00:11:43] a reality that science will prove to you, and what are we doing [00:11:47] here in the European Parliament, we are reducing protection for [00:11:50] pesticides in food in the food [00:11:53] omnibus, we... are undermining the precautionary [00:11:56] principle, when we talk about agriculture, there is [00:11:59] a solution, let's engage in organic agriculture, because [00:12:03] toxic substances are not used there, so for me [00:12:07] I really want to make it clear, the health of children and citizens [00:12:10] comes before profit, [00:12:12] thank you, [00:12:16] thank you, Nikolina Brnjac is [00:12:19] next, [00:12:22] thank you chair, the case of illegal waste in... Gospić, [00:12:25] is a serious form of cross-border environmental crime and that must [00:12:29] be clear to everyone. The Croatian government and competent institutions [00:12:33] are taking all necessary steps, a remediation process [00:12:36] has been initiated, investigations have been launched, and [00:12:39] the culprits will be punished. Europol has [00:12:42] just in this parliament warned that criminal [00:12:45] networks exploit differences between member [00:12:48] states, inadequate coordination between member [00:12:51] states, so how is it possible that illegal waste passes through [00:12:55] several borders, that not a single member state stops [00:12:59] or detects it. From Italy, we had [00:13:02] a problem, Italy, Spain, France, and [00:13:05] from Italy to Spain about 35. Tons [00:13:09] of illegally hazardous waste were transported. Europe today [00:13:12] talks about the security of its borders, but security is not just a question of army and [00:13:16] borders. Security is when we know where hazardous waste ends up, [00:13:19] who transported it, who produced it, who paid for it [00:13:23] and who is responsible. [00:13:25] This is therefore a European problem that requires a European response, [00:13:28] that is stricter cross-border control, waste [00:13:31] traceability and a joint fight against organized crime [00:13:35] and that is why we must ensure in the next budget funds, [00:13:39] because when the health and safety of all of us [00:13:42] are threatened, political squabbles do not interest [00:13:45] anyone, and people expect joint solutions, [00:13:49] today it is Croatia, tomorrow another member [00:13:52] state. There [00:13:56] is. Ms. Brnjac, you have a blue [00:13:59] card from Mr. Prebilić, [00:14:01] do you accept [00:14:10] it? [00:14:11] Good afternoon, thank you for this [00:14:15] discussion, we have two [00:14:18] sources of waste, one is legal, the other is illegal, when it is [00:14:22] illegal, something must be done, but we also [00:14:25] have legal waste migration, as far as I know, Croatia has [00:14:28] imported a lot of waste in recent [00:14:31] years, although it does not have the capacity to process that waste, don't [00:14:35] you think this cannot open the door to these events [00:14:38] as we saw now in [00:14:39] Gospić? [00:14:42] Thank you very much for your question, as far as I know, from [00:14:45] 2019 to 2024, [00:14:48] Croatia exported 522 [00:14:52] tons more than it imported waste. More than [00:14:55] 99% of waste imported [00:14:58] in 2024 was not hazardous waste. [00:15:02] Thank you, Ms. [00:15:05] Brnjac, [00:15:08] Ms. Brnjac, do you have patience for [00:15:11] one or two blue cards? Okay, [00:15:15] Ms. Jerković, and then Mr. Bosanac. [00:15:18] Colleague, the answer to [00:15:21] the question of who failed to prevent 37 [00:15:25] thousand tons of waste from ending up in Gospić cannot [00:15:28] be just criminals, because criminals exist in every [00:15:32] country, but it is the responsibility [00:15:35] of the state to uncover criminals [00:15:39] and prevent them. This is about the violation of principles from the Treaty [00:15:42] on the Functioning of the European Union, the violation of [00:15:45] the Directive on Access to Information, the Waste Framework [00:15:49] Directive, the Waste Shipment Regulation, the Water Directive, [00:15:52] the Directive on Criminal Law Protection of the Environment, [00:15:56] not to mention the conventions. [00:15:58] Colleague, Colleague Jerković, [00:16:00] that is precisely why we are talking about cross-border environmental [00:16:03] crime. You could hear from my speech, if you listened carefully, [00:16:07] I believe you did, that precisely from Italy to Spain also [00:16:11] 35,000 tons of hazardous waste were transported, [00:16:14] that Italy, France, Spain, recently and last [00:16:17] year, even Greek citizens, I think, [00:16:21] in the committee, discussed hazardous [00:16:24] waste as well, thank you. [00:16:26] Yes, Mr. [00:16:30] Bosanac. Mr. [00:16:32] Bosanac, [00:16:35] thank you, colleague Brnja. [00:16:38] "I partially agree with you, and I also asked myself the question of how that [00:16:41] waste travels through Schengen [00:16:44] and no one stopped it, but we [00:16:47] have most of the answer, so for now, the investigation has clearly [00:16:50] shown that the legal provision of a three-day advance [00:16:54] notification of a shipment's arrival was abolished, [00:16:57] if that had been in force, perhaps things [00:17:01] in Gospić would look [00:17:02] different. [00:17:05] So, colleague Bosanac, waste control has not been interrupted, [00:17:09] waste control exists, there is a digital system that [00:17:12] records the type of waste, [00:17:15] quantity, origin, destination, however, there are [00:17:18] criminals and criminal organizations that do not [00:17:21] enter correct and accurate [00:17:23] data. [00:17:28] Thank you very much. Very [00:17:30] good. Thank you. Sunčana [00:17:34] Glavak is next. Thank you very much, colleagues, [00:17:38] honorable Commissioner, at the beginning I want to say, [00:17:41] I understand the concern of citizens, but today on [00:17:44] this topic some want to gain significant political [00:17:47] profit, when we talk about people's health, there is no place [00:17:50] for political rivalry, when we talk about Gospić, [00:17:54] let's stick to the facts, the Government of the Republic of Croatia is solving [00:17:58] the problem, funds have been secured, remediation of illegally [00:18:01] dumped waste has been initiated, [00:18:05] the criminal offense of ecocide has been introduced, I want to... send a clear message [00:18:08] to politicians who do not think about the consequences [00:18:11] of false narratives: do not stigmatize [00:18:15] farmers, livestock breeders, family farms, [00:18:18] producers in Lika, the food they produce [00:18:22] is not contaminated, products are safe. [00:18:25] I clearly state, criminal responsibility must be [00:18:28] determined, waste removed, and monitoring continued [00:18:31] after remediation. This must apply everywhere in Europe. [00:18:35] The polluter pays, the perpetrator [00:18:37] is responsible, and citizens must be protected, therefore this [00:18:41] has a European dimension, if waste crosses the borders of member [00:18:45] states, we must be able to track where it originated, who [00:18:49] took it over and where it finally ended up, and in [00:18:52] the end, that is why I also expect from the Commission a stronger [00:18:55] traceability system for cross-border waste and better data exchange [00:18:59] between member states. Thank [00:19:02] you very much. [00:19:08] Mrs. Glavak, you have a question from Mr. Siper, will you [00:19:12] answer? [00:19:18] Thank you very much. [00:19:21] I haven't spoken yet, but thank you for agreeing to answer [00:19:25] my question. You said that one should not politicize [00:19:28] scandals like this one that broke out in Croatia. [00:19:32] Do you think it would be better if? [00:19:34] bi? [00:19:40] If we did not focus on a specific [00:19:44] case in a specific country, if we simply [00:19:48] talked about the situation as a whole in [00:19:50] Europe? Thank you very much, colleague, for [00:19:53] the question, I did not say that you should not, but I would like to [00:19:57] ask you if you know where Gospić is, do you know [00:20:00] where Gospić is? I know, you don't [00:20:03] know, yes, you know what is happening in Croatia? [00:20:07] It is being politicized on this topic, on people's health, that is not [00:20:10] good, in the entire European Union, all of us, regardless [00:20:14] of political colors, must have the same denominator, that [00:20:18] is to protect people's health and not spread [00:20:20] disinformation, but to help people, help [00:20:24] the economy, agriculture in those areas to remain, [00:20:28] not to disable them. Thank you [00:20:30] very much. [00:20:42] We now move on to spontaneous interventions, [00:20:46] so I immediately give the floor to Manuela Ripa for one minute. [00:20:52] Thank you very much. Let's broaden this [00:20:56] discussion for a moment. PFAS are present everywhere [00:20:59] in everyday life. They are [00:21:02] in our food, these are simply chemicals that [00:21:06] do not degrade in the environment. [00:21:09] Various local authorities. There are also various [00:21:12] regions in the European Union. And [00:21:16] waters are contaminated and often... [00:21:20] this is not remedied, simply because [00:21:23] it is too expensive, therefore we must [00:21:26] react, where do we really need PFAS, [00:21:30] in [00:21:33] toothpaste or something similar, no, PFAS [00:21:37] should be removed, at the end of the life [00:21:40] cycle of a project, we must [00:21:43] have guaranteed [00:21:46] destruction, as exists for endocrine [00:21:50] disruptors, it simply must [00:21:53] be able to degrade, [00:21:56] for example by incineration, [00:21:59] PFAS are simply not needed, they are just part [00:22:03] of something that is constantly used, simply such [00:22:06] unimportant products, they should be [00:22:10] phased out. Thank you, now Bogdan [00:22:13] Žonča. Thank you very much. [00:22:16] Allow me to ask all of you a question, [00:22:20] to you who are present, as well as to those who are not here today, [00:22:24] what feeling do you have in the European Union, as [00:22:27] we know, we produce chemicals whose [00:22:30] use [00:22:34] is forbidden in the European Union, but they are used [00:22:37] in South America and [00:22:40] elsewhere, and what feeling do you have now that [00:22:43] those chemicals [00:22:46] can be found in meat, for example, in... [00:22:50] poultry, you have declared [00:22:54] for the agreement with Mercosur, that does not [00:22:57] bother you, does it not go against [00:23:00] the logic of the European Union? We agreed [00:23:03] to something in the European Union, which we knew in advance [00:23:07] would be harmful to the inhabitants, to [00:23:10] the consumers of the European Union, so you know very well [00:23:14] that the agreement with Mercosur did not come out of nowhere, and [00:23:17] now we have a huge problem. [00:23:20] Look at what you have caused in [00:23:24] this situation. Mr. Siper, [00:23:27] please. Dear people [00:23:31] of Europe. Despite the question I [00:23:35] asked earlier. Now I will start [00:23:37] a very necessary debate. Mr. Bauzeman was [00:23:41] so [00:23:44] self-satisfied. You can't even imagine, you even gave [00:23:48] a reasonable speech. "You said that what [00:23:52] politicians do should not be harmful to [00:23:55] the residents, [00:24:04] next [00:24:05] time, [00:24:09] when you are running after fourteen-year-olds with [00:24:13] a baseball bat [00:24:15] or when [00:24:18] you are driving [00:24:22] drunk, think about [00:24:24] that, [00:24:31] ecology and economy [00:24:33] are not [00:24:36] sides of the same coin, let's consider what renewable [00:24:40] energy is, [00:24:43] ecology, not how [00:24:45] PFAS [00:24:52] you very much, colleague Siper, for mentioning [00:24:56] that driving drunk is driving under the influence, [00:25:00] but that never happened. And [00:25:04] one more thing, young [00:25:07] people, [00:25:10] if they run at night carrying [00:25:14] knives, and if [00:25:17] with those knives they remove [00:25:20] campaign posters, we must do [00:25:24] something, we cannot allow [00:25:25] everything, and [00:25:29] damaging property [00:25:31] and walking around with [00:25:35] knives, is only the first step [00:25:39] to committing a different crime [00:25:41] with a knife. So, it would be good if [00:25:44] we did something to fight against that kind [00:25:48] of criminal offense. Thank you. And now let's go back [00:25:52] to toxic substances and chemicals, residents [00:25:55] are suffering, so let's go back to that topic. Arkadiusz [00:25:59] Mularczyk is the next speaker. [00:26:04] Mr. Mularczyk, please. Thank you very much. [00:26:08] Dear colleagues, Commissioner. Allow me to [00:26:11] draw your attention to a very difficult [00:26:15] problem, that is the green transformation of the European [00:26:18] Union, which is accompanied by various threats, [00:26:21] because it threatens the creation of photovoltaic [00:26:25] factories, but also the [00:26:28] creation of electricity [00:26:33] reserves, there are no national rules [00:26:36] that would state how close such [00:26:39] facilities can be to houses and [00:26:43] apartments, why? Because [00:26:46] in my constituency, citizens [00:26:50] are protesting against [00:26:51] photovoltaic [00:26:54] farms and facilities near populated [00:26:58] areas, also there have been many [00:27:02] fires, and when [00:27:04] fires occur, toxic [00:27:08] fumes can emanate from them, firefighters find it difficult [00:27:12] to extinguish them, so, we have [00:27:16] no answers to such [00:27:18] dangers, what to do due to these large [00:27:21] investments decided by the European Union? [00:27:25] Thank you, [00:27:29] I would now like to hear your answers to this [00:27:32] discussion, Commissioner, [00:27:36] thank you, [00:27:39] Vice-President, members, thank you all for participating [00:27:42] in this discussion, I listened [00:27:44] carefully and heard different views [00:27:48] on how best we can protect human [00:27:52] health from toxic [00:27:55] substances, to do this, we need [00:27:58] joint action that will [00:28:01] be comprehensive and in various [00:28:05] areas. As for the discussion we [00:28:09] focused on today, it is clear that it is [00:28:12] illegal waste [00:28:16] disposal, i.e. waste trade, [00:28:19] something that is not right and that goes [00:28:23] against good practices in countries. [00:28:26] As for Pefas, the European [00:28:30] Chemicals Agency is completing its analysis [00:28:33] and the commission will [00:28:36] determine what to do based on [00:28:39] that. I would also like to refer to the comment we [00:28:43] heard that it is extremely important that [00:28:46] we look at what the key examples [00:28:49] are, examples of all that, for example [00:28:52] in healthcare, so that [00:28:56] there are no medical devices where [00:28:59] such materials are necessary, we must... [00:29:03] prevention, that is certainly a conclusion we can [00:29:07] draw from today's discussion, but we must [00:29:10] also proactively reduce [00:29:12] ecological risks and health [00:29:16] risks, we need to closely [00:29:19] monitor whether the food on [00:29:22] our plates is healthy regardless of whether it is produced [00:29:25] in the European Union or imported [00:29:29] into it, and as for the objection. and [00:29:32] related to the omnibus proposal of the European Commission, [00:29:36] I want to confirm here that [00:29:39] we have not changed the criteria for pesticide [00:29:43] approval, it is clear that the proposal [00:29:46] promotes the use of [00:29:50] biological pesticides [00:29:53] that reduce the negative impact of any [00:29:56] pesticides on the environment, thank you for your attention. [00:29:59] Thank you, Commissioner, and thank you. [00:30:02] to all members who participated in this [00:30:08] debate is now [00:30:10] over, and another item on the agenda. [00:30:38] Many people participate in the Vector competitive [00:30:41] challenge, first they vacuum with their old vacuum cleaners, [00:30:45] then with the exceptional new Vector vacuum cleaner with a water [00:30:49] filter. You won't believe what they all [00:30:51] vacuumed up. I can't believe it, this is [00:30:54] disgusting, how much dirt [00:30:56] is inside.