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[00:00:03] hit by flooding, many of
[00:03:55] there was um uh the mad madatter of the
[00:03:58] family to be honest she was the one that got up to mischief,
[00:04:02] Susanna's sister was the sensible one, um, but yeah, she
[00:04:05] was a lively, lively fun, loving little
[00:04:09] girl, um, that you know would always make
[00:04:12] us all laugh and fall about and would be up to
[00:04:16] mischief whenever the opportunity erose, not bad
[00:04:19] mischief, but enough to, you know, had to
[00:04:22] be to keep you on your toe, yeah, yeah, yeah, and as any
[00:04:26] girl her age is encouraged to be, should be, she was...
[00:04:30] she liked being outdoors, yeah,
[00:04:32] and she did that, lot of your photographs and
[00:04:36] memories of her, yeah, she loved the beach, she loved the beach, she loved being
[00:04:40] outdoors, yeah, she collected hundreds and hundreds of
[00:04:42] shells, and we had to keep them all, and and it
[00:04:45] was only, she could only collect them if she promised to
[00:04:49] return some and only take few home, um,
[00:04:53] but of course she never got to choose, it was this family trip to
[00:04:56] Devon that that changed the course of your family's life, and...
[00:05:00] ultimately led to the end of Heathers, can you talk to me about what happened that day, because it was an
[00:05:04] ordinary family trip to the beach? yeah, yeah,
[00:05:06] she she was enjoying herself, having lots of fun and we were going to
[00:05:10] go for a walk on the evening and 'um
[00:05:14] previously in the day we'd done the same walk along the seafront
[00:05:17] along the path um and that's where she trod in
[00:05:21] that uh the the water from the combined sewage overflow we
[00:05:24] carried on the day she played on the beach did normal
[00:05:28] things but then in the evening when we went for our evening
[00:05:31] walk uh she started she suddenly became
[00:05:33] unwell um and and became
[00:05:37] quite distressed uh so we got her back to
[00:05:41] the chalet'. did what any parent would do and go you got a
[00:05:45] b sickness and diarrhea, you can't have anything eat or drink, you'll be
[00:05:48] better soon, don't worry about it, I'll stay with you, dad and Suzann
[00:05:52] will go out, um, but she she
[00:05:56] didn't, she wasn't getting better, um,
[00:05:59] so we took it to the chemist, chemists prescribed to hiruly, you
[00:06:03] know, sickness and dire, same, you now, every every parents journey with
[00:06:07] a child that's got you know sickness and diarrhea,
[00:06:10] um, but then as things progress, she started to
[00:06:13] bleed and that's when we went back to the doctors and that's when we were rushed a
[00:06:16] casualty um and everything you saw in dirty business
[00:06:20] is what happened um which is the the channel 4
[00:06:24] series yeah based on your
[00:06:27] family's experience and exploring the state of the
[00:06:30] UK waters and the the industry involved in it
[00:06:34] southwest water carried out investigations at the
[00:06:37] time um despite formal investigations no cause for the outbreak was
[00:06:40] identified ' the inquest documentation confirming that no
[00:06:44] definitive source of infection was established and the circumstances southwest
[00:06:48] water say of waste water infrastructure regulation the late
[00:06:51] 1990s is very different from today and since then
[00:06:54] there has been significant investment. however, can I just say
[00:06:58] something? yeah, you can. at the time it took them
[00:07:02] 30 days to take samples from the water in
[00:07:05] the area, and we're always told that if there's a sewage spillage
[00:07:09] into the sea, 48 hours waiting to... but
[00:07:13] they did not, they assumed at the time, they completely assumed it
[00:07:17] was from food, and when they drew a
[00:07:19] blank, that's when they started looking at the
[00:07:22] environment. when you think about it, Heather died back in
[00:07:26] 1999 and water companies say you're in a very
[00:07:29] different place to to where we were in the
[00:07:32] 1990s, but are we then? well, that's the thing, I
[00:07:36] mean, you went to Westminster
[00:07:39] with surface against Sewage last week with some very...
[00:07:43] stark statistics from the summer period.
[00:07:47] um, also with personal stories from families, this
[00:07:50] summer, there was a young girl called Keeva, eight years old, she became
[00:07:54] seriously oll after swimming at Aven Beach, endorset again,
[00:07:58] designated bathing water site awarded
[00:08:01] excellent, she swallowed seawater while swimming at her local
[00:08:04] beach and was hospitalized afterwards, what is it
[00:08:07] like for you to see this happening up
[00:08:11] and down the country?
[00:08:14] repeatedly, what is it like for you as family who have lost a
[00:08:17] daughter? it it's a mixture, there's
[00:08:20] anger,
[00:08:22] real anger, but also there's a
[00:08:26] deep sadness, because when i had my
[00:08:30] meeting with the secretary of state and the secretary for water,
[00:08:34] the minister for water, sorry, i said to them really clearly,
[00:08:37] i am not going to stop until something
[00:08:41] changes, because i cannot allow this to
[00:08:45] happen to another child and another family, i
[00:08:48] can't, because it's horrific, and
[00:08:52] you can't, you can't ignore the fact that this is a public
[00:08:55] health crisis, the the suwage system its
[00:08:59] primary function is to protect public health, and it's
[00:09:03] not doing that, and
[00:09:06] so i just cannot understand why there are all these
[00:09:09] people in power, all these people that have the authority.
[00:09:13] they must have children, they must have families, they
[00:09:16] must feel, they must
[00:09:19] understand, and yet they continue to
[00:09:23] do the same things over and over again, such as discharging
[00:09:27] sewage into bathing water, why would you do
[00:09:30] that, why would you run the risk on your
[00:09:33] watch, the possibility of another death?
[00:09:36] why would you do that? final question, julie, um, water safety
[00:09:40] became a mandatory part of the corrector? in the UK in
[00:09:44] schools to do with water safety, we had an unprecedented number of deaths this year
[00:09:48] from people getting into difficulty, open water
[00:09:51] swimming, it didn't include water quality, we
[00:09:54] know that that does get taught as part of
[00:09:57] geography lessons, but in your case you actually brought our guide
[00:10:01] with the charity service against sewage to make people
[00:10:04] aware, because that's the thing, people go to the seaside and they
[00:10:08] don't always have an app to check what the quality of water is like, but
[00:10:12] 'you want to educate young people, because while they're
[00:10:16] perhaps not being looked after by the state or water companies, they need to look after
[00:10:19] themselves, what do you want to see in schools? well, the
[00:10:23] people that are taking them on the trips doing the'. assessments, doing a full risk
[00:10:26] assessment, looking at water quality, including that in the risk
[00:10:30] assessment and also making children aware, mean how many,
[00:10:33] mean i know because i used to work in education, if kids got dirty just
[00:10:37] rinse your hands in the water when you're on an outdoor ed, just give your hands and
[00:10:41] it's like now that's not the case, that is not a safe place
[00:10:45] to actually make sure you're clean, you know use some wet wipes, use
[00:10:48] anti-back use something, don't touch your lip you all that kind
[00:10:52] of basic stuff don't touch your lips your hands before
[00:10:55] eating, hygiene, think of the water as
[00:10:59] potentially contaminated, don't assume it's
[00:11:02] not, cuz we can't assume that the water
[00:11:06] companies, the environmental agency, the government are
[00:11:09] looking after us at the moment, they aren't,
[00:11:12] so we have to protect ourselves and that's my big
[00:11:15] message at the moment is, don't assume, take
[00:11:19] care, look after your children, keep them safe, the water
[00:11:23] isn't safe,
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[00:12:30] what if technology could explore a dangerous disaster zone before
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[00:12:41] these high-tech tools to work, they need fast and reliable data
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[00:12:48] them to the test.
[00:12:51] drones could soon become a standard tool for rescue teams. They can scan
[00:12:55] disaster zones, identify high risk areas and search for
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[00:13:09] continuous, it has to be absolutely reliable, so the
[00:13:11] communication must not break, not even very, very
[00:13:15] short time. Lives might depend on it.
[00:13:19] Wolfgang Kellerer and his colleagues are researching 6G, the next
[00:13:22] generation of mobile networks.
[00:13:25] day it could make communication between people and intelligent machines
[00:13:28] faster and more
[00:13:29] reliable.
[00:13:32] The idea is simple: send the machines in
[00:13:36] first. ground robots can enter dangerous buildings, their sensors
[00:13:39] collect information while their thermal cameras search for people who
[00:13:43] may be trapped or injured.
[00:13:47] drones and other AI power devices are already being used.
[00:13:51] they help search teams find lost hikers in difficult terrain and provide.
[00:13:55] to people trapped by
[00:13:56] flooding
[00:14:01] in 2023, earthquakes struck Turkey and Syria and
[00:14:05] killed nearly 60,000 people. drones produced aerial
[00:14:08] maps of the disaster zone in real
[00:14:11] time.
[00:14:14] what our drone operators see is happening right now, there is no time
[00:14:18] delay, you don't have to wait for the next satellite constellation to pass over
[00:14:21] area, so what you see is what you get. and in
[00:14:25] rescue scenarios, having real-time data is absolutely
[00:14:29] crucial, but even the smartest robot is only as good as its
[00:14:33] connection. if the signal fails, operators lose
[00:14:36] control. researchers are testing portable mesh notes,
[00:14:39] small wireless relays that work together, they extend violess
[00:14:43] coverage even in difficult terrain. all of this
[00:14:47] has one goal, keeping rescuer safe, but
[00:14:50] what happens when someone is buried somewhere even those machines can't
[00:14:54] reach? Researchers are testing a very different kind of first
[00:14:57] responder, cockroaches, equipped with mini sensors.
[00:15:01] These biobots can crawl through tiny gaps and hazardous areas
[00:15:05] looking for survivors, and rescue doesn't only happen on
[00:15:09] land, underwater, strong currents and poor visibility can
[00:15:12] create new challenges. That's where underwater drones
[00:15:16] come
[00:15:19] in. This compact underwater drone is designed to make the work of
[00:15:22] rescue teams easier.
[00:15:26] According to its developer, it can be deployed in about 10 minutes
[00:15:29] and operate a depth of up to 300 meters
[00:15:33] and its hor battery
[00:15:36] technology. supposedly gives it a wired operating range of about
[00:15:40] 2 km for up to 4
[00:15:42] hours. we focus really on the most challenging
[00:15:46] conditions, so here in Switzerland for example we have rivers
[00:15:49] which are quite challenging to to operate in as humans.
[00:15:53] underwater drones are used to locate wartime munitions. about
[00:15:57] 1.6 million tons were dumped in the north and baltic seas during the
[00:16:01] world wars, posing long-term environmental and
[00:16:04] safety risks. using HD cameras and stick
[00:16:07] sensors or sona, the robot can survey large areas either
[00:16:11] autonomously or under remote control. once it
[00:16:14] identifies an object, operators can guide it for a closer
[00:16:17] inspection and recover loads of up to 40
[00:16:19] kilos.
[00:16:22] using AI and sensor fusion technology, the drone
[00:16:25] combines information from cameras and sonar, allowing it to navigate even
[00:16:29] in merky
[00:16:30] water.
[00:16:34] you have both basically visual information and acoustic information. uh
[00:16:38] displays this 3D map um in real time for the
[00:16:41] operator, or of course if you have an autonomous interface, it's much simpler is
[00:16:44] just say, well we need to search that area or inspect that kind of
[00:16:48] structure and it does it for you basically. the
[00:16:52] system has already been used in search and rescue missions. it could also
[00:16:56] support offshore wind, oil and gas inspections, reducing the need
[00:16:59] for dives and hazardous conditions.
[00:17:03] drones like this take years of engineering and lot of money.
[00:17:07] but not every AI rescue tool starts in a big company or
[00:17:11] research lab. this wildfire detection system
[00:17:14] began with an idea from teenager who wanted to protect
[00:17:17] his community. today is helping detect wildfires
[00:17:21] around the world. i started in 2020 because i personally
[00:17:25] had family friends who lost their homes to wildfires and i
[00:17:29] really wanted to do something about it. franco rodriguez
[00:17:32] villao was 16 when he co-founded satellites on
[00:17:35] fire. an AI powered early warning. system for wildfires.
[00:17:39] Today company figures show the platform is used in more than 20 countries
[00:17:43] and helped authorities respond to more than 600 wild fires in
[00:17:46] 2025. The company also says its alert system
[00:17:49] can detect fires faster than
[00:17:51] NASA's.
[00:17:54] We combine satellites, cameras, drones, sensors and
[00:17:58] AI to detect fires. We have an AI algorithm
[00:18:02] that is enabling us to detect much faster by
[00:18:05] combining different kinds of information. reports from customers in
[00:18:09] territory, the platform can send smartphone
[00:18:12] alerts to people who are in danger and notified
[00:18:16] first responders. franco's goal is to save lives
[00:18:19] and to protect forests, wildlife and fragile
[00:18:23] ecosystems.
[00:18:28] we want to be an integral solution for this problem globally, so this means
[00:18:32] being in prevention, detection, monitoring and suppression of the
[00:18:34] fires.
[00:18:39] But many regions simply don't have this technology. In many places
[00:18:42] hit hardest by climate related disasters, rescue
[00:18:46] teams work with whatever they have. Pakistan is among the countries
[00:18:49] most vulnerable to climate change. Every monsoon,
[00:18:53] floods kill hundreds and in the worst years force millions from their
[00:18:56] homes. The warning systems often don't reach
[00:18:59] everyone. That's where citizen lead technology can
[00:19:02] help. Nothing but water where roads and fields
[00:19:06] won't stood. Pakistan's monsoon floods are deadly threat. In
[00:19:10] 2022 alone flooding killed more than 1700 people and affected
[00:19:14] 33 million others, nearly one in seven Pakistanis. In some
[00:19:18] flood prone areas, early warning systems still have gaps, studies point
[00:19:21] to problems with monitoring, forecasting and
[00:19:24] coordination.
[00:19:27] In some places, communities, NGOs and startups are stepping
[00:19:31] in. One karache based IoT company has installed
[00:19:35] sensors at five flat prone sites along. indus river in synt
[00:19:38] province to track water levels in real
[00:19:41] time.
[00:19:43] the system uses two kinds of sensors: ultrasonic sensors
[00:19:47] measure water levels by sending sound waves and by
[00:19:50] timing their return from the water surface. radar sensors
[00:19:54] work similarly with radio waves and according to the company
[00:19:57] remain reliable even in bad
[00:19:59] weather.
[00:20:03] solar radiation to sensors humne install water level monitoring ke.
[00:20:39] but where they work, the census give authorities more time to want people
[00:20:43] and
[00:20:43] evacuate.
[00:20:47] In karachi, millions of people living in. formal settlements that are hard
[00:20:53] these areas are poorly mapped, making evacuation even more
[00:20:57] difficult.
[00:20:59] local initiative is now digitizing old maps and combining them with
[00:21:03] satellite imagery to map flad rules. people in
[00:21:06] karache already share flood updates on whatsapp, warning about flooded
[00:21:10] streets and blocked roads. now those
[00:21:13] crowd source reports are feeding a live map through an app called
[00:21:16] arfard info.
[00:21:22] we take all of that data together and we collectively turn it into
[00:21:26] a live map which lets you
[00:21:28] choose your mode of transport and based on that it tells
[00:21:32] you what ways is safe way for you to
[00:21:35] take. for now these tools remain local and
[00:21:39] limited but as floods become more severe the challenge is
[00:21:43] getting them to the people who need them
[00:21:45] most.
[00:21:50] One of the best rescue tools is also one of the simplest phone
[00:21:53] alerts. They can save more lives than the most expensive rescue
[00:21:57] equipment. When powerful earthquake struck Venezuela in June
[00:22:00] 2026, the country had no public early warning
[00:22:04] system, but millions of Android phones still sounded
[00:22:07] alarm. Using data from smartphones, Google's alert
[00:22:10] system detected the quake and warned people before the strongest
[00:22:14] shaking arrived. Chile, by contrast, has a state run
[00:22:18] warning system, one of the most...
[00:22:44] AI helps us collect, consolidate and process information more
[00:22:47] efficiently so we can produce timely reports. issue alerts and
[00:22:51] analyze incoming data. The goal is to ensure that both
[00:22:55] authorities and the public are warned in a timely
[00:22:57] manner.
[00:23:00] To warn as many people as possible, Senaprett relies on cell
[00:23:04] broadcast technology. Instead of sending millions of individual text
[00:23:07] messages, alerts are transmitted simultaneously from every cell tower
[00:23:11] in the danger zone to all compatible phones nearby.
[00:23:15] Even if the networks are overloaded, the warning still gets
[00:23:17] through.
[00:24:20] Fast, reliable phone alerts are the first line of defense.
[00:24:24] AI, drones and robots are helping rescue teams go
[00:24:28] even further. That's all for me. Bye.
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