N1HRV — broadcast 20261012 070000 UTC 445 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] that we will have at our disposal from 2028 [00:00:03] onwards, then we will talk about where we will direct [00:00:07] those funds. Just now we talked very briefly about the recovery and [00:00:11] resilience plan, which is one instrument for which [00:00:14] Croatia, as I emphasized several times just now, not according to my [00:00:17] words, but according to the Commission's estimates, Croatia is using it very well [00:00:21] on that wave of good use of funds that we are directing to [00:00:25] healthcare, to education, to [00:00:28] justice, to education. "Ultimately, the reconstruction of the city [00:00:32] of Zagreb, i.e., energy efficiency, transport, for [00:00:35] example, the new trams that run through the city of Zagreb, all of this is financed from the recovery [00:00:38] and resilience plan, so the recovery and resilience plan, new [00:00:42] buses that will run through the city of Zagreb, through Virovitica and other [00:00:45] cities, all of this is financed from the recovery and resilience plan, i.e., [00:00:49] European funds, and bearing in mind that [00:00:52] the Croatian administration, government ministries have experience in implementing the recovery [00:00:56] and resilience plan, I believe and hope that Croatia, i.e., all of us in the end, [00:01:00] will continue to make good use of European funds so that we can [00:01:03] continue to have a positive impact on the economic growth of our [00:01:07] country. Just to conclude, perhaps a hypothetical [00:01:10] question, or let's try to make projections into the future, [00:01:14] if there were a significant reduction in money from European [00:01:17] funds due to these negotiations or at least a smaller amount, of course that never [00:01:21] happens overnight, of course the periods last for another year, two [00:01:25] or three after what is nominally stated as the end of the period. [00:01:29] Even if inflation were to slow down, which I believe [00:01:32] many wish for, inflation is bad for many things, but it does not necessarily [00:01:36] have to be bad for the state budget, which many economists will say that [00:01:40] budgets often profit from high inflation [00:01:43] rates, can this become a problem for Croatia's [00:01:46] credit rating? We know that agencies look at a country's ability [00:01:50] to repay debt, the share of public debt in [00:01:54] now it seems to me that this awareness is changing GDP, if we know to what extent European money, European [00:01:57] funds represent an important source of financing. I say, [00:02:01] a budget that grows due to inflation, can this in some [00:02:05] medium, I won't say near, but let's say medium future be a challenge [00:02:08] for Croatia's fiscal framework, for Croatian finances, these [00:02:12] facts alone probably not, now I will say why, for example, Moody's, as we started [00:02:16] our conversation, when you look at their analysis [00:02:19] of Croatia, it primarily highlights the efficiency [00:02:22] of implementation, it is less important how much funds there are, the second important thing [00:02:26] is the efficiency of implementation, it is true that Croatia from the recovery and resilience plan. [00:02:30] "When we look at the amount of 10 billion euros, that is 13% of our GDP in [00:02:34] the entire European Union, only Greece has more funds per [00:02:38] GDP than us, despite that, so it is demanding to implement, any [00:02:41] other country would struggle quite a bit with it, then [00:02:45] the efficiency of implementation is looked at, and we are very good at that, furthermore [00:02:49] when you look at, for example, the inflation that you, that you mentioned, [00:02:53] Moody's, the agency that confirmed our rating the other day, [00:02:57] does not mention inflation at all, so it doesn't mention it [00:03:00] as a future problem, it only mentions it in one place as a fact how high [00:03:04] it is, that doesn't mean we won't face inflation, but when [00:03:07] you look at the forecasts for 2027, [00:03:11] almost all European Union countries are between 2 and 3%, [00:03:15] approximately, I say that inflation will not be, will not be a problem, so [00:03:18] efficiency will be looked at and third, economic, economic [00:03:22] growth is also looked at, that is again related to the rating and the use of [00:03:26] funds, so our economic growth for [00:03:29] now... is twice as high as the European Union average, we are [00:03:33] one of four European Union countries that has recorded [00:03:36] constant economic growth for the last [00:03:39] 21 quarters, this is reflected, among [00:03:42] other things, through the use of EU funds. In a [00:03:46] hypothetical situation, if the amount of funds were significantly [00:03:49] reduced, which it won't be, of course we will choose [00:03:52] those, or rather we will more strongly choose those [00:03:55] investments that are aimed at contributing to [00:03:58] economic growth. growth in productivity, growth in Croatia's [00:04:02] competitiveness, for now we have the situation [00:04:05] that when European funds come to us, we can finance a lot, a lot [00:04:09] of policies. The National Recovery and Resilience Plan is an example of this, [00:04:13] we have financed practically everything you can imagine, precisely [00:04:16] because of the size of the amount, very successfully, of course to the satisfaction of all of us [00:04:20] who live in Croatia, I say this because some other [00:04:24] countries are not in that, are not in that situation, some [00:04:27] countries direct it only, for example, to... energy only [00:04:31] to some specific sectors and we can, just now we talked about [00:04:34] healthcare, education, energy, look at the news [00:04:38] of the last few days, or rather years, when we are in [00:04:41] energy, the gasification of Croatia, for example, so [00:04:45] uh, a part of the LNG terminal was financed from the recovery [00:04:48] and resilience plan, over 200 km of new gas pipelines were [00:04:52] built in Croatia again from the recovery and resilience plan, so this [00:04:55] contributes to energy stability, it [00:04:59] contributes to. in fact, the control of energy prices, among other things, that [00:05:03] can also long-term affect the preservation of our [00:05:06] rating, but at some point the energy [00:05:09] stability and security of the state will also be looked at, which is not negligible. at this [00:05:13] moment, we will, of course, continue to follow this, especially these negotiations that are coming up in [00:05:16] Brussels, and the assumption is that they should be finished by the end [00:05:20] of the year, if everything is, of course, under control, then we will know more, [00:05:24] Mr. Savić, thank you very much for being our guest, thank you for [00:05:26] the invitation, [00:05:36] we will take a short break, stay with us, in the continuation we also bring [00:05:39] this: a scandal in Germany, everyone [00:05:43] will tell how August Henning fell, a man who spent seven years at the head [00:05:46] of Germany's most important intelligence service, the BND, where he had access to [00:05:50] the most strictly guarded state secrets. Live from Germany for [00:05:53] Novi dan, Srećko Martić speaks. [00:05:57] Public consultation on anchor prices begins, which activities will be [00:06:01] excluded from the obligation to publish them. Minister [00:06:04] of Economy Šušnjar said nothing is set in [00:06:07] stone. We are following the development of events. [00:06:11] unexpectedly announced that a ceasefire on [00:06:15] energy infrastructure between Ukraine and Russia has been agreed, but [00:06:18] there are no official confirmations from Kyiv and Moscow. Ukrainian President [00:06:21] Zelensky caught live, we are in [00:11:22] Good morning once again to the N1 [00:11:25] Television studio and welcome once again back to the program, it's [00:11:29] time for a press review, i.e., a review of the front pages [00:11:33] of daily newspapers, which on Mondays we usually go through [00:11:36] with our Tihana Tomičić from Novi list, the editor-in-chief [00:11:40] of Novi list, Tihana, good morning, greetings, of course, [00:11:44] to Rijeka from Zagreb, [00:11:47] good morning, let's start with the front pages and then we'll see [00:11:51] what Novi list has prepared for us today, we'll start with Večernji list. [00:11:55] list which says that Croats are spending record amounts [00:11:58] on foreign travel in foreign destinations, [00:12:01] they left a billion euros. The Croatian alleged bank [00:12:05] states that the outflow of capital for travel to other countries [00:12:08] in the first six months of this year increased by [00:12:12] 27%, meaning that even [00:12:15] 233 million euros more was spent. [00:12:19] Croats massively fled to northern Europe this summer. [00:12:23] Josip Mikulić, professor at the Zagreb Faculty of Economics, says: [00:12:26] "Not all movements this year should be attributed solely to [00:12:30] fleeing domestic prices," but obviously [00:12:34] some can be attributed to that. The great transformation of the Czech Republic, the country [00:12:37] of cars has become a military power. In three years, arms exports [00:12:41] increased sixfold, the defense sector became one of the [00:12:45] key pillars of the economy. Olive harvesting [00:12:49] began, the fruits are small and dry, [00:12:52] olive growers announce higher oil prices. Incentives for [00:12:56] electric cars are coming, 20 million euros are available [00:13:00] to citizens. Jutarnji list, negotiations on [00:13:04] earnings for 2027. The battle for [00:13:08] the minimum wage begins. Hup offers [00:13:10] 187, trade unions demand [00:13:13] 1,250 euros. The government can give [00:13:16] workers another 60 euros per month. [00:13:20] Supervision of the Istrian water supply launched, seven contracts in [00:13:23] one day by a company. of a former employee, the water supply awarded as many [00:13:27] as 101 jobs without [00:13:30] a public tender, delivery is late, the [00:13:33] flu has arrived, but so has the vaccine, flu vaccination begins [00:13:37] at the beginning of November, the virus is raging in seven [00:13:40] counties, most flu among [00:13:43] preschoolers. Slobodna [00:13:46] Dalmacija, how the money collected for [00:13:50] the reconstruction of houses in Omiš is spent, we asked Bruno [00:13:53] Lerotić. "Did you consult with the city, [00:13:57] they have no idea what they are doing, do the houses you are renovating have valid [00:14:00] documentation, we have all the necessary solutions, [00:14:03] what kind, just a moment, here I have one solution for quick renovation, from [00:14:07] whom, signed by an independent administrative [00:14:10] clerk, who, it's not visible, what do you mean, [00:14:14] who is it, an interesting conversation, [00:14:17] 24 hours, who is who in the mega waste scandal, [00:14:21] a secret network of fraud, money will solve everything, [00:14:24] Dodić and Šincek led the story around Benkovac, in [00:14:28] Senj, the head of the utility company arranged for plastic to be dumped on [00:14:31] Velebit. The life and death of Stolar's son, [00:14:35] because of drugs I worked at a gas station for [00:14:39] a handful of money, a question, or rather a story, of course, about Goran [00:14:42] Bare. Glas Slavonije, demographic trends in [00:14:45] Croatia, the population has increased, mainly due to [00:14:49] migration, waste management, Croatia needs [00:14:52] four power plants, one of them will be in Osijek, elections [00:14:56] in BiH, Pepić, Filipović's victory has [00:14:59] strategic importance for Croats, and the first [00:15:03] defeat at home, Osijek took an early lead against Istra, but remained [00:15:06] without a solution. And Novi [00:15:09] list. Accident on Mei, removal [00:15:13] of wagons began, experts warn of the problem. [00:15:16] Composite brakes are not suitable for [00:15:19] this track. They are a double-edged sword, introduced to reduce [00:15:23] noise, but not suitable for... prolonged braking. On steep [00:15:27] inclines, so-called sawtooth [00:15:29] braking must be used, points out Milan [00:15:32] Brkić, a retired expert in [00:15:35] railway compositions. [00:15:37] And here, of course, is the question of the power plant, or rather waste [00:15:41] management, the designer of Danish Copenhill, for Novi [00:15:44] list, the power plant can be a part of the city's [00:15:48] public life. The US turnaround, Trump and Putin together against [00:15:52] Zelensky, Ljubo Jurčić, the problem is not the rebalance, but [00:15:55] the economic model. So let's go [00:15:58] back to Rijeka, where our Tihana Tomičić is waiting for us, Tihana, [00:16:02] well, due to that tragic event, fortunately [00:16:05] without human casualties. [00:16:08] The event related to the railway in Rijeka, apparently some old [00:16:12] questions have reopened, [00:16:15] yes, well, this was already the fourth or fifth railway [00:16:19] accident recently in Rijeka or near Rijeka, and that is, of course, a crucial [00:16:23] important question for us because the railway is linked to port traffic, [00:16:27] so the very fact that this [00:16:30] accident occurred means that uh, all cargo must [00:16:34] be transported by trucks until the track is repaired, at least to [00:16:38] a part of the track, so bypassing it, and [00:16:41] probably a good part to Zagreb and so on, [00:16:45] so this is a huge topic for us in Novi list, I say, also [00:16:49] because of the port, we talked with experts after this happened, [00:16:53] we tried to see if the reason was the condition of the track, if [00:16:57] the state was responsible for that, if the company [00:17:00] Croatian Railways was responsible, or if the carriers were [00:17:04] responsible, i.e., those who own mm... [00:17:07] certain wagons and who [00:17:11] own the trains that transport that [00:17:14] cargo, the point of this story is [00:17:18] that, to briefly explain what the expert explained to us, [00:17:22] is that it is a track that has an [00:17:25] extremely steep incline towards Rijeka [00:17:28] when descending from Gorski Kotar and that [00:17:31] incline dictates prolonged [00:17:33] braking, and these wagons are obviously not [00:17:37] well adapted to that, these are actually modern, new [00:17:40] wagons that have these composite brakes that are more modern [00:17:44] than the asbestos ones that used to exist on old trains, [00:17:48] however, for some reason, they obviously fail on these inclines with that prolonged [00:17:52] braking, the expert explained, that trains brake for [00:17:56] about 50 minutes, right, while they pass that [00:18:00] incline to Rijeka, so that is obviously a great [00:18:03] strain for that type of brakes, now how to overcome [00:18:06] that is what we will deal with further, because [00:18:09] it is obvious that the wagons are new, that the problem was not [00:18:13] that they were faulty, but simply that, well, [00:18:17] these brakes give way under that pressure, so that's one topic [00:18:20] that we will continue to deal with, it is actually uh, [00:18:24] I say, crucially important for the port of Rijeka, so Novi list will certainly [00:18:28] continue to uh look for ways to [00:18:31] get answers to how these things can be [00:18:35] prevented in the future. This [00:18:39] is another local topic which is, of course, important and [00:18:43] which is discussed not only in Rijeka, but from [00:18:46] Rijeka's perspective, the power plant, the question [00:18:49] of solving waste management, for Novi list, [00:18:52] the designer of Danish [00:18:55] Copenhill spoke. We know that in the capital of Denmark, [00:18:59] there is also a power plant which is even used [00:19:02] in winter months as a ski resort, [00:19:05] a small ski resort, but... as some kind of public [00:19:08] space in summer where citizens gather and [00:19:12] where they use that space, even though it is [00:19:15] a power plant, a place where waste is incinerated, we have in [00:19:19] the end the example of the Vienna power plant [00:19:22] which was designed by the famous architect Hundertwasser, which is [00:19:25] also in the very center of the city, uh [00:19:29] based on what, or what do the Danish [00:19:32] designers say Rijeka can eventually expect if it goes in that [00:19:36] direction? Yes, well, last week it was announced and we [00:19:40] wrote a lot about it in Novi list, that [00:19:43] four cities applied to the Environmental Protection [00:19:46] Fund, so with their proposals for building [00:19:49] these power plants, among other things, Rijeka is among these cities, [00:19:53] so Novi list was the first to publish this [00:19:56] story, in such a way that Mayor Iva Rinčić [00:20:00] then, of course, confirmed that the city is considering [00:20:03] building such a power plant, they haven't [00:20:07] yet revealed which location is in question, but it can be assumed that [00:20:11] they might want to remediate parts of some facilities that [00:20:15] previously existed in Rijeka, Rijeka was, of course, very [00:20:18] well-known and founded as [00:20:22] a highly industrialized city, that industry has [00:20:25] disappeared in some parts of the city in the meantime, so probably some [00:20:29] of those urban areas would be suitable for building [00:20:32] such a power plant, Mayor Rinčić has therefore [00:20:36] already mm... confirmed to us that they are considering [00:20:40] competing with the fund, with the fund for [00:20:43] funds for designing such a power plant [00:20:45] so that here in Rijeka then... waste would be processed not only from [00:20:49] Rijeka's Marišćina landfill [00:20:52] but also from Istria's Kaštijun, which is becoming a very big [00:20:56] problem in Istria, well, Istria County has a session [00:21:00] on Thursday on this topic, [00:21:03] uh, then from Varaždin and I think somewhere from Slovenia [00:21:07] that waste would be transported, so it would be economically [00:21:10] justifiable and it would certainly mean a significant [00:21:14] reduction in heating prices in Rijeka, which are extremely [00:21:17] high in Rijeka, so that's one of... the models, I [00:21:20] assume that that power plant would be [00:21:24] built in the most modern way, and that's why we [00:21:28] at Novi list were interested in talking to these [00:21:31] designers, uh of Copenhill, these are [00:21:35] people who actually worked on this project of that power plant which is actually [00:21:39] completely integrated into the space which actually forms a typical [00:21:43] urban unit that citizens use completely normally, now whether [00:21:46] it's possible for us to dream of getting something like that in Rijeka or... somewhere in [00:21:50] Croatia, we'll see, however, in any [00:21:53] case, what is clear is that [00:21:56] after the Gospić case, the topic of building [00:22:00] incinerators or power plants, no matter how it is [00:22:04] approached, no matter how it is professionally processed, because we are laymen [00:22:07] probably Hrvoje and I, this, in any case, the topic [00:22:11] of building power plants has ceased to be a taboo topic in [00:22:15] Croatia, I would compare it approximately to what is happening at the European level [00:22:19] with nuclear power plants. so after they were abolished that they stopped [00:22:23] being built everywhere based on the then German policy [00:22:25] mm it turned out with the energy [00:22:29] crisis, the war in Ukraine, of course, that they are very much needed, [00:22:33] similarly, Croatia has always rejected the possibility of incinerators, [00:22:36] i.e. every local community where it was mentioned as [00:22:40] an option rejected it, [00:22:44] more and more, and when we saw all these cases about [00:22:47] waste, it became clear to us... I mean, it's clear to everyone [00:22:51] that it's better to have a well-regulated power plant than such [00:22:54] unregulated landfills, especially with hazardous waste, [00:22:58] what Novi list is doing these days, among [00:23:01] other things, and following is this topic of hazardous [00:23:05] waste from Gospić that ended up [00:23:08] in Senj, i.e. in the Velebit Nature Park, our [00:23:12] journalists will be there today and will talk [00:23:16] to citizens and the city administration in Senj after the investigation [00:23:20] showed that mm [00:23:23] the head of the utility company in Senj [00:23:26] was involved in [00:23:30] this whole affair. Another conversation that today's Novi [00:23:33] list brings is Ljubo Jurčić who says that the problem [00:23:37] is not the rebalance, but the existing model, [00:23:40] i.e. the economic model. The government proposed a rebalance on Friday, [00:23:44] it will, of course, most likely be adopted, if there are any minor changes, which [00:23:47] there probably won't be. Uh, but again, on the other [00:23:50] hand, we were just now [00:23:53] talking with Zvonimir Savić about, Savić, [00:23:56] pardon, about reforms, the national recovery and resilience plan, [00:23:59] about the fact that Croatia is incredibly successful in [00:24:03] uh, drawing money from European funds, in [00:24:06] implementing reforms, some things still [00:24:10] remain a sore spot, here specifically Croatian [00:24:12] healthcare, somewhere waiting lists have [00:24:15] been reduced, but money is flowing out of that system [00:24:18] on all sides. Citizens are hardly satisfied with the quality of that [00:24:22] system, where is the truth, or where [00:24:26] is something that is a result of concrete [00:24:30] changes and where are things that are actually very good just [00:24:34] because the administration bureaucracy within the current [00:24:38] framework of Andrej Plenković knows how to talk to the European [00:24:41] Commission? Yes, well, let's start from [00:24:45] the beginning, this is uh, a [00:24:48] conversation with Professor Ljubo. Jurčić, or rather he commented on [00:24:52] the budget for us, not in the form of an interview, but in the form [00:24:55] of a text, of course we know approximately what his [00:24:58] premises are, right, he always talks about industrial policies, about [00:25:01] regional development, that's what he means when he says that the economic model [00:25:05] is wrongly set up, or that there are no reforms [00:25:08] uh in Croatia, so On the other hand, I listened to a large [00:25:11] part of this conversation, uh with Mr. Savić, which was actually quite [00:25:15] interesting. It showed that we will... the new newspaper will also [00:25:19] write more extensively in the coming days about the budget rebalance and analyze it [00:25:22] in more depth. What is becoming apparent is that the announcements that there would [00:25:26] need to be cuts of more than a billion euros have actually been covered [00:25:30] by good tax revenues and good tax collection during the summer [00:25:33] and during this part of the year, so [00:25:37] until today. So, as far as we can see, the government is not so [00:25:40] worried, and they think that there will not be any problems [00:25:44] with that budget. It's clear, we all know that the budget [00:25:47] for defense is growing, which is visible at the [00:25:51] Croatian level, and everything else is, of course, a topic for [00:25:54] discussion. Uh, the only thing that will be an important factor [00:25:58] for the government is that with this [00:26:01] bragging that the budget is filling up well and that the situation is not as [00:26:05] bad as it was perhaps thought, of course, strong union [00:26:08] demands will arise from that. What colleagues in the morning paper are writing today, [00:26:12] we will all deal with what the unions are asking for this week, so that is [00:26:16] always - a balance, as I would say, six [00:26:20] seven between the fact that if [00:26:23] the budget revenues are good, [00:26:27] then, of course, the union demands are growing. This applies to the minimum wage, [00:26:29] and probably to all state and public services. We know that they were announced [00:26:33] a salary increase of 3% in three installments [00:26:36] (1 + 1 + 1), and now I believe [00:26:40] all those unions will demand more, those in healthcare [00:26:44] harmonization, so with [00:26:47] the real, so the price of labor, the price per hour [00:26:50] and so on, all the way to the minimum wage. [00:26:53] pensions and so on, so when the government boasts of good [00:26:57] results, then it must know that it will also have to be [00:27:00] more generous to all [00:27:02] categories. Again, on the other hand, let's not forget [00:27:06] that 2027 is already an election year, so [00:27:10] I think the unions might be more satisfied than they [00:27:13] expect, that, [00:27:17] uh, in a way, the morning paper also writes about this, saying [00:27:20] that negotiations have begun on the minimum wage. Hup offers [00:27:24] 1,087 euros, the unions [00:27:27] 1,250, so there will be more [00:27:31] topics for discussion. Finally, just one more [00:27:34] question related to the front page of Večernji List, which [00:27:37] says that Croats spent a record amount on [00:27:41] foreign travel this year, that in the first [00:27:44] six months alone, if I'm not mistaken, according to data from the Croatian [00:27:47] National Bank, this increased by [00:27:51] 27%, or even 233 million [00:27:54] euros more. And, of course, on the cover is [00:27:57] a quote from one of the interviewees from the text, Professor at the Zagreb [00:28:01] Faculty, Faculty of Economics, Josip Mikulić says, it's not [00:28:04] all just because people are fleeing domestic prices, surely [00:28:08] one part of the reason is also that the purchasing [00:28:12] power of the average citizen, especially of someone who [00:28:16] perhaps has some activity in tourism in addition to their [00:28:20] permanent employment, their purchasing power is quite [00:28:23] surely growing, but... but it would be worth discussing [00:28:27] whether some people in Croatia have obviously [00:28:30] looked for some slightly [00:28:33] cheaper prices for holidays outside of [00:28:36] Croatia? Well, I would agree with what [00:28:39] the interviewee from the colleagues from Večernji said, [00:28:41] so there are certainly several [00:28:43] factors here: first, low-cost companies and cheap flights, so that is [00:28:47] certainly one of the reasons, of course, if you can fly [00:28:51] to Malmö for 15 euros, everyone will try to take advantage of [00:28:54] the situation. Secondly, the prices in Croatia itself are [00:28:58] enormous during the season, and why wouldn't someone [00:29:02] travel to Italy or Spain where accommodation is cheaper than in Croatia? [00:29:06] So that's just common sense. [00:29:10] Uh, but that speaks to Croatia's tourism problems [00:29:14] and the fact that prices are being exaggerated, that in the long run it certainly [00:29:17] harms the overall image and [00:29:21] perception of Croatia in the eyes of foreign [00:29:24] tourists. So we know what kind of crisis there is in Germany, we know how careful [00:29:27] those guests are, mm. So, in my opinion, Croatia is in some [00:29:30] way playing with its [00:29:32] prices, but this season we somehow survived, so [00:29:36] I don't know, some luck always appears above Croats' heads. [00:29:40] On the other hand, regarding the purchasing power of Croats, [00:29:43] probably someone who works in multiple activities, i.e., in their workplace, [00:29:47] earns touristically, of course, such a person has higher [00:29:49] purchasing power and can afford a trip, but [00:29:53] I would say that the largest part of this is actually related [00:29:56] to cheap [00:30:00] flights. I think that is a great motivation for many to [00:30:03] travel outside Croatia, if those flights cost a few hundred euros, [00:30:06] instead of a few tens of euros, then I believe it would be a different story, [00:30:09] a significantly different story, quite, quite surely. We will, of course, follow [00:30:12] all these topics further, Tihana, thank you very much for being our [00:30:16] guest, thank you. Greetings. [00:30:19] After this conversation, we will take a short break. Stay with us. In the continuation, [00:30:23] we bring you these stories. [00:30:26] The scandal in Germany is growing, how [00:30:28] August Hanning, the [00:30:38] man who spent seven years at the head of Germany's most important [00:30:42] intelligence service, the BND, fell, where he had access to the strictest [00:30:46] state secrets. Live from Germany for... [00:30:49] čovjek koji je proveo sedam godina na čelu najvažnije njemačke [00:30:53] obavještajne službe BND, gdje je imao pristup najstrože [00:30:57] čuvanim državnim tajnama. Uživo iz Njemačke za...