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[00:01:19] Croatia or in the Croatian political sphere, Tomislav
[00:01:23] Klauški has joined me here for an
[00:01:26] each voter or voting body in analysis, Tomislav, good morning, good morning and welcome, thank you, uh
[00:01:29] Krodemoskop. So these are some new data for us, HDZ
[00:01:32] 25, SDP also low,
[00:01:36] somewhat less than 20, they are growing, we can also Most, that reminded me, the other day Nikola
[00:01:40] Grmoja was here with me in Novi dan, and he said, the real fight will be fought
[00:01:43] between Most and Možemo, those are two parties that will
[00:01:47] grow, judging by Krodemoskop, for now it's not far from
[00:01:51] the truth, well, several things can be seen from this poll, first
[00:01:54] it is important for HDZ to enter the next elections as a relative winner, that is,
[00:01:58] to come out of the elections as a relative winner, thereby gaining the right
[00:02:02] to be the first to gather a majority, and when HDZ is the first to gather a majority, that means
[00:02:05] then many are
[00:02:09] ready to join that alliance, so from some liberal left
[00:02:13] to the far right, second, it is important for SDP and Možemo
[00:02:16] in the total sum, which
[00:02:20] is not representative, it is a national sample, it is necessary to work by electoral units in
[00:02:23] all these variables, all these variables still need to be important for them to
[00:02:27] have more than HDZ together, and as for Most and Možemo,
[00:02:31] they should be seen as two satellites, that is, larger
[00:02:34] partners, so Most, however much it has anti-HDZ rhetoric, has recently switched to
[00:02:37] anti-Plenković rhetoric, which
[00:02:41] means that he positioned himself somehow to be HDZ's first partner
[00:02:44] in forming the government, so we can expect, even if they persistently
[00:02:48] deny it, every time I say it like this openly, no one will
[00:02:52] do well in the elections if they enter as a future partner
[00:02:55] of HDZ, meaning everyone goes to the elections on an anti-HDZ platform because that is
[00:02:58] the platform on which votes are gained, and then
[00:03:02] they are counted or, but you know, I just asked Nikola
[00:03:05] Grmoja, then I reminded him of the Homeland Movement, of those posters,
[00:03:09] Vukovar, criminal charges, today I remembered 2023,
[00:03:13] the one who initiates the impeachment of Andrej Plenković, do you know who
[00:03:16] the Homeland Movement is, it wasn't that long ago, then he
[00:03:20] said to that yes, but it cannot be
[00:03:23] compared to Most, those are all former HDZ members, they all
[00:03:26] came from HDZ, we are not them, therefore.
[00:03:30] Most, Most has always, Most, therefore, in 2015, appeared
[00:03:33] on the political scene as a kind of
[00:03:36] collective conscience or a torchbearer
[00:03:39] of political morality or a corrector of others'
[00:03:43] shortcomings, they entered as we will fix HDZ, we will
[00:03:46] be a kind of fuse, that is,
[00:03:51] evoke all those a corrector for HDZ, and today they probably think the same way, meaning they
[00:03:53] will fix HDZ, that is, they will first
[00:03:56] make sure that Karamarko is not too
[00:04:01] selfish, that HDZ is not too much under Karamarko's
[00:04:04] control, after that they tried with Plenković, but Plenković, with his secretary, quickly
[00:04:08] solved that, as we all know, because HDZ does not
[00:04:11] like to be corrected by anyone, but the math and
[00:04:15] the whole pre-election calculation leads to
[00:04:18] the fact that Most is, therefore, a competitor to DP as HDZ's first
[00:04:22] partner, just as Možemo, therefore, well, they are already
[00:04:25] practically solidified partners of SDP,
[00:04:29] so all these polls should be viewed in that calculation, it is certainly important for HDZ
[00:04:33] that as an individual party it be a relative winner because as
[00:04:37] such, for now, it is and will get surplus mandates, but
[00:04:40] it has the lowest rating in this season, but
[00:04:44] on the other hand, well, HDZ always hovers around its
[00:04:48] 25%, in its darkest times it had
[00:04:52] a kind of senator, they never
[00:04:55] fell below 30%, meaning they, in the elections,
[00:04:58] always get the most... therefore the maximum,
[00:05:01] that is, that we can call it a sect,
[00:05:04] a cult, therefore party loyalty, everyone is tied to
[00:05:08] HDZ, interested, emotionally and some capital
[00:05:11] they count on. So, they don't start from scratch in elections, they start from
[00:05:15] 25, well, others don't really start from scratch, but their springboard,
[00:05:18] whatever HDZ did, well, Tomislav, do you think
[00:05:22] these 25% can cause
[00:05:25] some nervousness in HDZ itself, because it is true
[00:05:28] that this is not a very high rating for their standard, well, that is
[00:05:32] the question of how much it is, so
[00:05:36] things have changed in the last 10 years, Plenković for a while
[00:05:39] held that stumbling HDZ, he was the one who pulled HDZ.
[00:05:42] with his charisma, new approach, persuasiveness,
[00:05:46] he pulled HDZ which was burdened by Karamarko and
[00:05:50] by the Josan verdict, this legacy and so on, but now the situation
[00:05:53] has changed a bit, HDZ, however much it is also
[00:05:57] marked by everything that is happening, uh, it feels
[00:06:00] that Plenković is the one who goes from savior to
[00:06:03] burden, he is the one towards whom dissatisfaction and
[00:06:07] frustrations are channeled, so both with Gospić and other and other topics that their leader
[00:06:10] becomes a kind of. a burden, for example, Most says we
[00:06:14] will not go with HDZ if Plenković said before that the Homeland Movement, so
[00:06:18] Plenković has used up all his ammunition towards other coalition partners,
[00:06:22] he has betrayed, disappointed, and he has become the face of everything that
[00:06:26] is going wrong in the country, and HDZ, as a party that has always
[00:06:29] first looked after its own survival and preservation, has always thrown overboard
[00:06:33] those who were a burden to it, so the question
[00:06:36] is whether that desire for self-preservation of HDZ will tomorrow
[00:06:39] condemn Plenković, just as they erased all previous presidents.
[00:06:42] presidents, uh, there's another interesting thing, that's the number
[00:06:46] of citizens of the Republic of Croatia who participated in this survey, of course,
[00:06:49] who do not believe that Croatia is going in the right direction, so that deviates
[00:06:53] from that land of honey, milk, GDP and success
[00:06:57] that is being tried to be portrayed,
[00:07:00] almost that percentage is even smaller than the percentage of people who vote for
[00:07:04] HDZ, i.e., who still support HDZ, meaning HDZ 25% approximately, and
[00:07:08] 17% of respondents say that they support the direction in which
[00:07:12] HDZ's government and HDZ are leading the country, which means that a good part
[00:07:15] of HDZ members are perhaps angry at Andrej
[00:07:18] Plenković and the government, because we learned earlier
[00:07:22] from the time of Ivo Sanader that when a more liberal
[00:07:26] HDZ president comes, he takes the government cabinet
[00:07:29] as his own and leaves HDZ to HDZ members, and then you
[00:07:32] have that dichotomy of governing where
[00:07:36] the prime minister governs from Banski Dvori, HDZ is on
[00:07:39] the ground voting or governing. yes
[00:07:42] through local sheriffs doing what HDZ does, right?
[00:07:46] So now we have uh, this situation here, however, among
[00:07:50] these, that's how much 83%
[00:07:54] who do not support the direction in
[00:07:56] which this country is going, that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them are liberal
[00:08:00] left-wing dissatisfied HDZ members, so the government's behavior of HDZ,
[00:08:04] those can be the right wing, they think that Plenković is
[00:08:07] too much, so it depends on
[00:08:10] the European Union, on Brussels, that... has too many human rights, that
[00:08:13] we are learning wrong history, that the Ustashe should come to power, so that 83
[00:08:17] is not now the voting base of SDP and Možemo, so here
[00:08:21] are the Homeland Movement, Ustashe, so Ustashe, blackshirts,
[00:08:25] everything is here, right, so probably among those 83%
[00:08:29] they would want that, so Plenković comes, but some other prime minister comes who
[00:08:32] would be more to their taste, hmm, Zoran
[00:08:36] Milanović in this whole story, which Zoran
[00:08:39] Milanović, do we remember this. "we know
[00:08:42] him and we fondly remember him m
[00:08:46] well, I'm going to slowly introduce you to this story about soy and everything and
[00:08:50] about waste, Zoran Milanović who
[00:08:53] convened that session once
[00:08:56] of the parliament regarding illegal waste and after
[00:08:59] that he disappeared into the wilderness
[00:09:03] of Berbinograd, uh, diplomatic verve, those
[00:09:06] were the wildernesses at the time, joking aside, this is a
[00:09:09] collegial comment, so let it be a bit like this," but
[00:09:13] really, Zoran Milanović, where is he, well, Zoran Milanović, we
[00:09:16] knew that would happen when he
[00:09:19] therefore from a turbulent first term in which he fought for a second term, entered a second term
[00:09:23] in which he behaves like Stjepan Mesić in his second term where he
[00:09:26] let, therefore, Mesić let the country
[00:09:29] to Ivo, Ivo Sanader, Zoran Milanović is now letting
[00:09:33] the country to Andrej, not so much to Andrej Plenković, but he may have
[00:09:37] even done what he should have done in his first term, let the
[00:09:40] real political opposition, and Andrej Plenković, SDP, Možemo, so
[00:09:44] that they are the ones who will wage war against Andrej Plenković, now the question
[00:09:48] is why all those people voted for him, for what they got or perhaps for something else
[00:09:52] and I think they voted for the HDZ government to have
[00:09:56] a counterpoint, that is, a counterbalance, self-will
[00:09:59] still rules, that belief that Zoran
[00:10:02] Milanović will curb HDZ, however, Zoran Milanović did not curb HDZ
[00:10:06] and Zoran Milanović did not save Croatia from HDZ, because wherever
[00:10:09] you look there are some fingerprints of HDZ
[00:10:13] and its affairs, bad governance, institutional
[00:10:16] stagnation and so on, right? mm, so Zoran Milanović
[00:10:20] behaves the way he behaves because he no longer has anything to fight for, he no longer wants to
[00:10:24] go to... prime ministerial elections nor does he fight for that
[00:10:27] presidential mandate and he actually behaves as
[00:10:30] Stjepan Mesić behaved in his second term, who completely withdrew into
[00:10:34] himself and no longer had any connection with
[00:10:38] Ivo Sanader, except that they together caught Ante Gotovina, uh
[00:10:41] so Zoran Milanović also gave small reminders, which is, for example,
[00:10:45] interesting that Zoran
[00:10:48] Milanović was a hindrance to that
[00:10:51] SDP for a while, so it wasn't like that.
[00:10:55] He was some kind of hindrance because all the eyes of SDP voters,
[00:10:59] the left opposition, were turned towards Pantovčak, not towards
[00:11:02] iblorov square, that is, towards Možemo, and that was a wrong
[00:11:06] view, because instead of everyone voting for SDP, Možemo,
[00:11:09] in this desire to replace SDP,
[00:11:13] everyone voted, oh my God, HDZ, everyone voted for Zoran Milanović
[00:11:16] to be the guard over HDZ, right? So
[00:11:19] they went indirectly towards controlling HDZ, that is,
[00:11:23] removing it, so Zoran. Onović, on the one hand,
[00:11:27] it is good that he does not interfere, on the other hand, it is bad that he does not interfere,
[00:11:30] because who will interfere if not him and when if not
[00:11:34] now, that Gospić, that breakdown of institutions, that
[00:11:38] horror that is happening, bursts out of every
[00:11:41] pore, so strikes and those institutions,
[00:11:45] secret services what they were doing, these are topics about
[00:11:48] which Zoran Milanović, can speak, these are actually part of these topics are
[00:11:52] exactly his topics, and Zoran Milanović only speaks about how... the European Union is undemocratic and
[00:11:56] how the European Union is bad, so he repeats a mantra
[00:12:00] that obviously has some deeper, deeper roots than what we now
[00:12:04] perceive.
[00:12:06] Well, secret services and what happened there, what
[00:12:10] happened, at one point Ranko Ostojić comes out from that famous
[00:12:13] committee and says, it is necessary to be really precise here,
[00:12:17] that SOA informed the competent authorities
[00:12:21] in 2022 that it had its own knowledge, then the
[00:12:25] competent authorities were interpreted in the public space and through politics, it must be said,
[00:12:28] and through the media, the Inspectorate
[00:12:32] Dorch, and the MUP, they all in turn
[00:12:35] denied it, Ranko Ostojić repeated yesterday that he did not
[00:12:39] say that those were those bodies, that Grmoja is lying, that he only said competent authorities,
[00:12:43] what are competent authorities, let's now go back to, I
[00:12:46] don't know, first grade of high school and see what competent
[00:12:50] authorities would be,
[00:12:52] then it was expected that this week that committee session would be
[00:12:56] called, but it seems it won't,
[00:12:59] will people from SOA be invited, first it needs
[00:13:02] to be voted on, says Ranko Ostojić, the ruling majority has
[00:13:05] the majority, in short, to
[00:13:08] summarize, such a topic that should still be
[00:13:11] clear to the public and the media what, who, why,
[00:13:15] when, if we are already opening questions of state functioning,
[00:13:18] institutions and political responsibility,
[00:13:21] do you and I agree that it should be much more transparent?
[00:13:25] Less shrouded
[00:13:28] in fog, that fight for transparency
[00:13:32] always somehow leads to a war over secret services, that is,
[00:13:35] when secret services enter the discussion, it means that the
[00:13:39] degree of political corruption, that is, erosion, entropy has reached some
[00:13:42] peak, because we fought for a long time after Tuđman's
[00:13:46] time, through the council for civilian oversight and
[00:13:50] so on and through the division of powers between
[00:13:53] the president and the prime minister when appointing. that the secret services should still
[00:13:56] be depoliticized, kept aside, professionalized, so that
[00:14:00] they are not a topic of political discussions, however we now again have a situation
[00:14:04] in search of where, where, I mean, how
[00:14:07] did Gospić happen and what happened, we ask ourselves what happened with
[00:14:10] SOA and it would be nice to believe that SOA did
[00:14:14] its job and that it sends reports, so
[00:14:17] uh, so certainly to the office of the president and
[00:14:20] the office of the prime minister and the president of the state
[00:14:24] as... as two addresses that are directly responsible for SOA's work
[00:14:28] and for supervision and for appointments
[00:14:32] uh and if such reports reached any address,
[00:14:35] well, one would say if it reached the office of the president of the republic that it would
[00:14:39] find its way to the opposition, to the public, we are now
[00:14:42] further, so we are looking for a way where this
[00:14:46] happened, no, we are generally looking for a definition of competent services, here
[00:14:50] we are, maybe it seems trivial to someone, but everything
[00:14:53] wants to, uh so that smoke is released so that
[00:14:56] the right path is lost, how
[00:14:59] the mafia came to Gospić and what is Gospić, so why
[00:15:03] no one paid attention to Gospić all these years,
[00:15:06] I, I would like to believe that SOA knew and I would like to believe that SOA
[00:15:10] reported it to someone, that somehow those reports went to someone,
[00:15:13] why are, I mean, we can understand why they stopped at some of those addresses
[00:15:17] at the inspectorate, I don't know, the prime minister and so
[00:15:20] on, maybe it's at that, but it certainly passes through
[00:15:24] the parliamentary committee and through some institutional bodies, it
[00:15:28] must have come out, that is, someone must have known about it, well, you want to say that great
[00:15:31] effort is being made not to shed light on it,
[00:15:35] so how much has the mafia entered the state? That is also a question,
[00:15:38] so since the 90s, secret services were a hotbed
[00:15:42] of mafia, part of the secret services were under the control of organized crime, criminal
[00:15:46] organizations, people from that apparatus were
[00:15:49] connected to some crime, as well as politics, secret services, mafia, it was
[00:15:53] all mixed up, is it now
[00:15:57] mafia, if we are talking about mafia, has access
[00:16:00] to that, that is, and those institutions, not only the inspectorate
[00:16:04] but maybe somewhere deeper in, that is, and that...
[00:16:07] services and politics and party, yes, rumors and anonymous comments from
[00:16:11] SDP itself appeared that Ranko Ostojić is not leading those
[00:16:14] sessions in the best possible way, then
[00:16:18] Siniša Hajdaš Dončić said on Friday no, no, he is doing it just like I would,
[00:16:22] that is, his role as a former minister
[00:16:26] as an opposition politician in the whole story was also problematized,
[00:16:29] so if Zoran Milanović also bears part of the responsibility
[00:16:32] for SOA, that is, for the appointment of the director of SOA, because his
[00:16:36] non-appointment or non-appointment is also sought,
[00:16:39] then is Ranko Ostojić then
[00:16:42] perhaps Zoran Milanović's spokesman, or Zoran Milanović's quiet spokesman, if
[00:16:46] he doesn't want to say anything, that some discussion is also stopped there, I
[00:16:50] really don't know that now, we can discuss it from a political point of view,
[00:16:54] but the fact is that part of the left opposition is also
[00:16:58] not satisfied with how Ranko
[00:17:01] Ostojić is doing it, so what will happen next is unknown.
[00:17:04] that Andrej Plenković. at one point,
[00:17:08] returning to the story from Gospić, and after
[00:17:12] the ruling party slightly changed its rhetoric, so Branko Bačić was there
[00:17:15] during the protests, Minister Vučković, the new chief state inspector who
[00:17:19] slowly began to admit that
[00:17:21] not everything went as it should have in the institutions, he says for
[00:17:25] Gospić again after that Med9, perhaps, I don't know, carried away by the
[00:17:29] atmosphere or what, that it is a locally generated
[00:17:32] story that, well, the government is again to blame for everything, that now they have to
[00:17:36] solve it. "So after a month of different communication
[00:17:39] again it returns to the local level, perhaps
[00:17:43] citizens do not honor it, because indeed regardless of the local
[00:17:47] level, those trucks were entering for months and months, they were not
[00:17:50] entering through a small door into Gospić, uh
[00:17:54] yes, the fact that Andre Plenković, uh, so
[00:17:57] for a while had the illusion, or wants to give the impression that
[00:18:01] he will be the savior of what is happening there, so first he went from saying that nothing was
[00:18:05] dangerous, then we will save it. all that, you are dramatizing, making
[00:18:08] a problem, hysterizing and so on, that's right, so something that
[00:18:12] the institutions discovered and so the findings were
[00:18:15] published, then the opposition some forces invented it,
[00:18:19] well, if that's the case, we'll fix it, now again we're going towards
[00:18:22] that it's not that bad as
[00:18:26] it was said, as if they want to
[00:18:30] reduce the responsibility of HDZ, that is, the HDZ will perhaps be a smaller
[00:18:33] savior if the threat in Gospić is smaller or not, in general...
[00:18:37] Plenković obviously leads his own war against, therefore,
[00:18:41] what is said about Gospić in there, it's not a local story, if we're going to forgive it, but
[00:18:45] practically, that story is in Benkovac, that story is in
[00:18:48] Senj, that story is in Varaždin, that story is a
[00:18:51] big capillary spread story, even if we go that
[00:18:55] way, that's right, then all those capillaries go to one center and that center
[00:18:59] stubbornly ignores the fact that it is, therefore, widespread, he
[00:19:02] wants to keep it at the local level, he wants to set up some
[00:19:06] kind of sanitary... "it might cut off any connections that would go
[00:19:10] to the government, to the office,
[00:19:13] of the prime minister, perhaps if it came to some of those
[00:19:17] institutions, he might throw them under the bus, but for him, it is certainly important
[00:19:20] that he distance himself from all of that, so if
[00:19:24] it's a local, it must be a local story so that he has nothing
[00:19:27] to do with it, then some prefects will be asked
[00:19:30] and actually the government, neither guilty nor innocent, is now in a position to again
[00:19:33] clean up someone else's mess, so it's like falling out of the fire, so
[00:19:37] some other rascals, his own, others' and so on, then the whole story is woven
[00:19:41] into this, there's a little SDP, there's a little
[00:19:44] HDZ, there are some independents and so on, but Plenković
[00:19:48] generally wants to give the impression that he has nothing to do with it,
[00:19:51] so he washes his hands, so he literally washes his hands of garbage, anywhere
[00:19:55] in Croatia, tomorrow is the fourth
[00:19:59] impeachment attempt, so if we passed the "third time's the charm" then I don't know if it makes
[00:20:02] sense to talk about the fourth charm, uh, so
[00:20:05] that's what the opposition does. "We as journalists or the public
[00:20:09] can now have cynical comments or, well, especially HDZ can
[00:20:13] have cynical comments about that, the opposition will again embarrass
[00:20:16] itself and no one can remove this
[00:20:19] prime minister anymore because we have, we control the majority and so on, which is
[00:20:23] true, but the fact is that that majority is actually perfectly
[00:20:26] stable, that's true, but as long as, well, that
[00:20:30] steadfastness needs to be tested, so that each time it is seen how steadfast it is, so
[00:20:34] the job of the opposition is to put pressure on that position, so
[00:20:38] whether it will break or not break, maybe it will, maybe it won't, maybe tomorrow
[00:20:41] they will say why didn't you remove the prime minister when you had
[00:20:45] the chance, right? Uhm, so
[00:20:48] uh, so especially... that political pressure is important, because it is again discussed
[00:20:52] in public, so the position, so the opposition
[00:20:56] again gets an opportunity and timing and time in the media and in Parliament
[00:20:59] to present its arguments against Andrej Plenković, to formalize that
[00:21:03] story of pressure on that prime minister, whether it will pass or not pass, that
[00:21:07] is now less important, it is important for the opposition that it is again a topic and
[00:21:10] that Plenković is not happy about it, that when
[00:21:14] we are talking about the opposition, he says that uh the opposition wants
[00:21:18] to politically profit. from crime,
[00:21:21] uh yes, from corruption, from crime, from garbage, and
[00:21:25] yes, but like, that's not our crime, that's the crime of some individuals, yes
[00:21:29] it wasn't said, but it's clear what they want to say, that
[00:21:33] uh yes, that's the narrative, tomorrow we have something
[00:21:37] else, we will, of course, broadcast it live here, that's that famous speech,
[00:21:41] we took that a bit from the United States of America, with which we will close this
[00:21:44] story, the so-called state of the nation,
[00:21:48] uh, what do you expect, Tomislav?
[00:21:50] "Well, I expect two, two versions of the state of the nation, one, therefore, wonderful
[00:21:54] and beautiful, and the other monstrous, terrible,
[00:21:58] that, therefore, however much the prime minister will probably
[00:22:02] sanctify and sprinkle flowers on that state
[00:22:05] of the nation of his, the opposition
[00:22:07] will uh throw mud at him, the public would then probably take both
[00:22:11] truths as one and choose what suits
[00:22:16] that whole story, outside, I mean, of course, the prime minister..."
[00:22:20] and the SDP prime minister did that, no prime minister or ruling party
[00:22:24] will come in the state of the nation and say, "Here, we are now to blame for Gospić, we are now to blame,"
[00:22:27] they won't, right? So they will always present their most optimistic
[00:22:31] and most challenging, challenging
[00:22:34] segment now, so in economics, you always have aspects of economics
[00:22:37] that Andrej Plenković will surely mention, low unemployment, low unemployment
[00:22:41] can mean that people no longer look for jobs at the employment office, that jobs are sought
[00:22:45] outside the borders, that no one else applies to the employment office, there are no more
[00:22:48] official data. Yes, uh there
[00:22:52] are jobs, but those jobs are poorly paid, that people
[00:22:56] therefore take jobs because they have to and even if they don't
[00:22:59] want to, and so on, so there are various things, but Plenković will certainly
[00:23:02] say we have record low unemployment, which may
[00:23:06] sound good to people but they themselves know from their own
[00:23:09] pocket how they are doing, so people themselves know if they can make ends meet,
[00:23:13] if there is a chance for young people
[00:23:16] to buy their first property
[00:23:19] that... they have to go and work in Germany for 10 years and then pay it off,
[00:23:23] so everyone has their own version of the story, especially regarding economics,
[00:23:27] right, inflation and other topics, not everyone is equally affected
[00:23:30] by the economy, some cope better,
[00:23:34] some cope worse, but that
[00:23:38] economy could be a story
[00:23:40] of how much Andrej Plenković's promises and buying
[00:23:44] voter favor from two years ago cost us, how much that will
[00:23:47] cost now. The other day I was watching the budget rebalance, a huge
[00:23:51] part goes to salaries and maintaining the system itself,
[00:23:54] that's a huge amount of money, because that's HDZ's voter base, because that's
[00:23:58] HDZ's social peace, right, just as social peace is bought with the tourist
[00:24:01] season and, therefore, is bought
[00:24:05] from this state budget that
[00:24:09] there is no social unrest and social peace is bought by the fact that we are in
[00:24:12] the European Union, so people go to look for jobs outside the borders
[00:24:15] of Croatia instead of on the street in front of the Banski Dvori through a protest, is it
[00:24:19] only who... "those who protest with us are public
[00:24:22] unions, because they are the only ones who can organize and have
[00:24:25] a chance to put political pressure, because politics
[00:24:29] gives in or doesn't give in, as was the case in
[00:24:33] Zagreb, but that kind of pressure is stronger than in the private
[00:24:36] sector, because the public sector, politicians and mayors, prefects
[00:24:40] are sensitive to that kind of pressure because they live off the same
[00:24:44] voters and off the voting mass,
[00:24:46] and workers are protected." "At
[00:24:50] the moment when they go to protest, well yes,
[00:24:53] they probably are, yes, I would also say that a question for the end,
[00:24:57] something I would never want to miss, the Pentagon's
[00:25:00] announcement that they will broadcast military executions
[00:25:02] live, uh, we've come to
[00:25:05] that, yes, the cradle of democracy is literally becoming
[00:25:08] a firing squad of democracy, so not only this, but of the free
[00:25:12] world, what's happening, that's so we don't go into
[00:25:15] any depth of that, so that's a message to all citizens
[00:25:19] of America, so those killings by immigration services on the streets, that's
[00:25:22] a message to all citizens and this is a message to all citizens, and if
[00:25:26] we watched the Handmaid's Tale, I don't know if you've seen that in one
[00:25:30] season, so not only are people hanged in public places as
[00:25:34] a message to everyone to shut up, but also, for example, in newsroom
[00:25:37] walls there are holes from firing squads, so if
[00:25:41] Trump's firing squad isn't already literally
[00:25:44] doing that, as it will be publicly broadcast now, in all other ways
[00:25:48] he tries to kill all elements. of American democracy, right?
[00:25:52] So symbolically, financially, politically and in all other
[00:25:54] ways, you know Tomislav, after that announcement, I looked for some
[00:25:58] reactions from politicians in Europe, values,
[00:26:01] democracy. "European
[00:26:04] Union, humanism and so on, but
[00:26:07] no one reacted to that information,
[00:26:10] well yes, democracy dies in silent darkness, right? So no matter how much
[00:26:14] silence there is and how much people turn their heads and ignore some
[00:26:17] things, it opens
[00:26:21] Nazism, how would we call these now Putinism,
[00:26:24] Trumpism, new Nazism, right-wing in Germany and so on, right?
[00:26:27] Yes, agreement with Putin, since we're talking about that, for now there are no
[00:26:31] official ones yet." I don't know if there's
[00:26:35] Trump is Putin's agent, meaning since 2016 it's clear that Russia has placed
[00:26:39] its man at the head of America, not only to
[00:26:42] open the way for Russia, so in foreign policy, eliminate America's foreign policy,
[00:26:45] but also destroy America from within, we see it through stock exchanges,
[00:26:49] crypto, so the destruction of the social elements
[00:26:52] of the American state, through the destruction of American democracy,
[00:26:55] the constitution, the conquest of courts, so through
[00:26:59] all possible ways of favoring the oligarchy, today's Trump's.
[00:27:02] America is turning into Putin's Russia, so
[00:27:05] oligarchy, uh, so, every control
[00:27:08] of information, this, these social
[00:27:12] networks, crypto, so,
[00:27:15] fake wars, that's, that's the same template
[00:27:19] that is being used, that Putin used in Russia, Trump is now
[00:27:23] using it in the US, now live shootings, and
[00:27:25] shootings,
[00:27:31] of course. that they were related to the work of the government,
[00:27:35] the work of the Croatian Parliament, the preparation of the party congress,
[00:27:39] the reporting one which will be on November 28th
[00:27:42] in Šibenik, we also discussed, of course,
[00:27:45] international activities, first of all, we expressed satisfaction
[00:27:49] with the summit of the leaders of the group of nine
[00:27:52] Mediterranean EU members which was held last week in Split,
[00:27:56] we thanked our hosts,
[00:27:58] Mayor Šuti, Prefect Boban and his deputy
[00:28:02] Čogel, who was with us, the impressions of colleagues were very
[00:28:05] good, excellent preparation for this week's meeting
[00:28:09] of the European Council, which has a number of large, important topics, from
[00:28:13] the continuation of negotiations on the multi-annual financial framework
[00:28:16] to the security situation
[00:28:19] in Europe, these new circumstances, the intensification,
[00:28:23] unfortunately, of the conflict between, or rather
[00:28:25] Russia's aggression against Ukraine and, of course, the energy
[00:28:29] situation given everything further in the Near
[00:28:32] East. We also discussed tomorrow in the
[00:28:36] Croatian Parliament, it will be interesting, we will be there all day,
[00:28:39] first thing in the morning the annual report on the work
[00:28:43] of the government, the third in this mandate, where we will try to
[00:28:46] summarize everything we have achieved in the past year,
[00:28:50] and of course report to the members of parliament
[00:28:53] and also the Croatian
[00:28:56] public, and then another initiative
[00:29:00] of no confidence, today... I asked my
[00:29:03] associates to see the statistics, in our
[00:29:06] modest 10 years of mandate there were a total of
[00:29:10] 43 interpellations and questions
[00:29:13] of no confidence, it even surprised me that there were so
[00:29:16] many, uh 26 rejected, nine
[00:29:19] discussions not held because the topic was absolved, one withdrawn,
[00:29:22] seven in procedure, so it is
[00:29:25] the instruments that the opposition uses, we are already
[00:29:28] used to publicly responding
[00:29:32] to them, all in all as expected,
[00:29:34] mostly, I would like to
[00:29:38] thank the Speaker of the Croatian Parliament for last week
[00:29:41] for the important anniversary
[00:29:44] related to October 8th, the Day of the Croatian
[00:29:48] Parliament, it was truly very nice to once again
[00:29:53] topics and see so many distinguished
[00:29:57] people in the Croatian Parliament, we are also satisfied
[00:30:00] with, the rating of Moody's agency, one of
[00:30:04] the three credit rating agencies, investment credit rating confirmed,
[00:30:07] stable outlook, confirmation of government
[00:30:11] policy, that is responsible management of public finances,
[00:30:14] continuous reduction of the share of public
[00:30:17] debt in GDP, we expect by the end of the year
[00:30:20] 55.5%,
[00:30:24] less than it was last year, the budget rebalance has been sent
[00:30:28] to parliament, the deficit will remain at... 9% which is
[00:30:31] also within limits economic growth this year
[00:30:35] we expect to be around 2.3
[00:30:38] 2.4%. What is particularly important,
[00:30:41] excellent results for the tourist season in
[00:30:45] the first nine months, so over
[00:30:48] 20 million arrivals already, around
[00:30:52] 100 and 10 million nights,
[00:30:55] 105 million nights, all of this together
[00:30:58] indicates that we will be better this year than.