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[00:00:00] where every citizen of the Republic of Serbia who is interested in education,
[00:00:03] especially, there are millions of people in this country, should be able to
[00:00:07] say what they have to say, so this is simply a public discussion, meaning
[00:00:11] according to the laws of the Republic of Serbia, it is not some expert panel. The minister
[00:00:15] attends or not, the minister was there at the beginning,
[00:00:18] discussed with us for 15 minutes and then left to meet with a
[00:00:21] delegation from Africa, he says he is preparing a meeting
[00:00:24] of non-aligned countries and then he might stop by the public discussion,
[00:00:28] i.e. this panel organized by
[00:00:30] who presented the law, who questioned it from that side, I
[00:00:34] I really did not enter the hall because the conditions were such that they did not allow
[00:00:38] you to practically participate in it, I don't know what else
[00:00:41] I could expect there, really, what is it that you wanted
[00:00:45] to point out what is good in this law, well, as for
[00:00:49] the independent union of education workers of Serbia, we singled out two things,
[00:00:52] one thing is repression against teachers, so
[00:00:55] the introduction of draconian penalties of license revocation due to
[00:00:59] And there were many of the thousands of a strike on... a strike which until now was reserved exclusively for serious
[00:01:02] criminal offenses, and the second thing, uh, so
[00:01:06] absolute elimination of
[00:01:09] democratic access for parents
[00:01:12] to school, so the way the parent council is formed is changing,
[00:01:16] such that you practically will not have a democratic principle as before which
[00:01:19] has existed for decades, departments
[00:01:23] choose their representatives, but now that will be chosen in some other way that we don't know yet,
[00:01:26] but it could be that the director does it, maybe... and the minister can
[00:01:30] anyone can do it according to this law to choose members of the parent
[00:01:33] council.
[00:01:40] Owners of demolished buildings on the shore of Lake
[00:01:43] Gazivode have started receiving bills for the costs of their demolition,
[00:01:47] said lawyer Dragutin Nenezić, who represents some
[00:01:51] of the owners. Nenezić claims that the company Ibar Lepenac
[00:01:55] continues procedures despite ongoing court cases
[00:01:58] and assesses that the owners do not have effective legal protection. He adds that
[00:02:02] apart from statements from the international community, there have been no concrete
[00:02:06] steps that would stop the demolition or protect the property of the
[00:02:10] owners.
[00:02:12] various things
[00:02:15] circulated until in principle
[00:02:19] we did not
[00:02:21] translate the documents that
[00:02:25] were obtained, so the previous group
[00:02:29] whose weekend houses were demolished and family. in essence they
[00:02:32] receive a
[00:02:35] document or rather two from the
[00:02:39] inspectorate of the Ministry of Environmental Protection,
[00:02:43] one is a fine of 2,000
[00:02:47] euros which people initially thought were some kind
[00:02:50] of demolition costs, so that's actually some kind of
[00:02:52] offense, and the other is a decision
[00:02:56] on the removal of the object,
[00:02:59] than 50% of the votes, it might aim to both are received due to construction
[00:03:03] in a protected zone, and the zone is, as we
[00:03:06] know, protected from the end of
[00:03:08] 2025, so quite a lot
[00:03:11] since the last of those weekend houses were built
[00:03:15] and people have a deadline of 30 days to pay it, there is also
[00:03:18] a deadline for an appeal for those who want to appeal,
[00:03:21] so we will certainly appeal
[00:03:25] uh, and then we'll see how it goes, which is quite
[00:03:27] problematic in practice, because this inspectorate
[00:03:31] suddenly appears which previously never
[00:03:34] appeared anywhere, meaning Ibarlepenac appeared with some of its
[00:03:38] letters, now they are somehow
[00:03:40] trying to mask that quasi-procedure that
[00:03:44] Ibar Lepenac was conducting with some procedure conducted by that inspectorate
[00:03:48] which appears for the first time since everything is now already demolished, which is quite
[00:03:52] problematic both legally and generally, I mean
[00:03:56] in life, uh, so in principle one...
[00:04:00] "one, let's say, blunder, a mess
[00:04:04] they tried to cover up, but only made
[00:04:08] an even bigger, bigger
[00:04:10] problem, that's regarding those decisions that are arriving,
[00:04:14] and the other part of the problem is
[00:04:17] this for this new group that arrived a few
[00:04:21] days ago, so it arrived again from Ibar
[00:04:24] Lepenac, that warning that they were
[00:04:28] given 15 days to move out." So, that
[00:04:32] uh, those 15 days expire on August
[00:04:34] 18th, so we will see if anything will
[00:04:38] happen after that date,
[00:04:40] uh, I personally don't think that this,
[00:04:43] the last statement of the European Union,
[00:04:47] uh, which calls for the demolition to be suspended, will change
[00:04:51] anything, given Kurti's visit
[00:04:54] yesterday and everything that is happening with these arrests and
[00:04:57] excavations, uh, but... let's see,
[00:05:01] I mean time will tell,
[00:05:02] of course.
[00:05:08] For the first time in many years, Serbia is entering an election race that will be completely
[00:05:11] uncertain. "The main political struggle will take place between the student
[00:05:15] list and the Serbian Progressive Party. What will decide
[00:05:18] that match, can students maintain the energy of the protests and transform
[00:05:22] it into electoral support, on what will the SNS build its campaign,
[00:05:26] besides gatherings under tents? We are discussing this live
[00:05:30] with the editor of the portal,
[00:05:32] contemporary politics and political commentator Aleksandar
[00:05:36] Ivković. Aleksandar, good day, thank you, thank you very much for being here today, and thank you for the
[00:05:39] invitation. Before we start with all these topics that I announced,
[00:05:43] the portal, uh, is it where you are the editor, today
[00:05:47] published a public opinion poll by the International
[00:05:50] Republican Institute which states that things in
[00:05:53] Serbia are moving in the wrong direction. 49% of respondents
[00:05:57] believe this, while 41% believe
[00:06:01] that they are moving in the right direction. If we look at this from the perspective of the upcoming
[00:06:04] elections, what does this indicate to us? Well, these are bad news
[00:06:08] for the government, usually analysts like to say
[00:06:11] that, uh... the question of which direction you think the
[00:06:15] country is moving in is a good indicator of whether there will be a change of government
[00:06:18] in the elections or whether the current government will remain. I would
[00:06:22] add that it is a rough indicator, meaning it doesn't mean that all
[00:06:26] those who now say that Serbia is going in the wrong direction will necessarily vote against
[00:06:29] the government, nor will all those who say that the country is going in the right direction
[00:06:33] necessarily vote for the government, but it is some general indicator that
[00:06:36] actually shows that that, uh, that
[00:06:39] situation has not changed for a long time, in fact, that is perhaps the main
[00:06:43] information, not that we now have more people who say that the country is going in the wrong direction than those who say that
[00:06:47] it is going in the right direction, we already had such findings
[00:06:50] over a longer period of time, but that it probably hasn't changed since
[00:06:54] last spring, meaning we haven't seen any findings since last
[00:06:57] spring that said that most people believe that Serbia is going in the right
[00:07:01] direction, which would mean that there were some changes in public opinion that occurred
[00:07:05] at the beginning of 2025 when we had
[00:07:08] the beginning of the student movement and student protests,
[00:07:12] then public opinion significantly changed, but since then
[00:07:15] actually those new trends that emerged then have been stable, whether
[00:07:19] it is related to that aspect of the direction the country is moving in,
[00:07:23] or whether it is related to the aspect of what people consider to be the biggest problem in
[00:07:27] Serbia, for example, that is also a question in this
[00:07:30] survey that we reported, uh, further, the largest
[00:07:34] number of people believe that corruption is the biggest problem in Serbia, which means
[00:07:38] uh, a topic that rose to first place after the collapse
[00:07:41] of the canopy. Before that, it was not like that, before that, economic
[00:07:45] topics were dominant, during COVID, the biggest problem was the pandemic, of course, and so
[00:07:49] on, but since the collapse of the canopy in all
[00:07:52] major surveys that have appeared since then, corruption is
[00:07:55] the biggest problem, which is also bad news for the government, because the government
[00:07:59] would like corruption not to be the main topic of the elections, because that topic works
[00:08:02] against them, what do the surveys say about
[00:08:06] whether elections would be held specifically now, say, on Sunday, who
[00:08:10] would come out, will we be able to talk about some large turnout from
[00:08:13] those surveys, no, there were no questions related to the ratings
[00:08:17] of individual actors, so we can only assume that, but there was
[00:08:21] a question of whether you would go to the polls, uh,
[00:08:24] 68% of Serbian citizens said that they would definitely go to the polls
[00:08:27] and another 15% said that they would probably go to the polls, that means that we can
[00:08:31] expect a very high turnout, especially if those
[00:08:35] 15% who said that they would probably go to the polls, decide and go to
[00:08:38] the polls, that would not be well, that means
[00:08:41] 65. in total they are 83, that would not be
[00:08:44] a turnout of 83% officially, because in our electoral
[00:08:48] roll we have more people who are not present in Serbia and because of that
[00:08:52] our turnout is always lower than it actually is, that is, the official
[00:08:56] turnout that comes out of RIK is 58%,
[00:08:59] that means that it was actually not 58% but more than that,
[00:09:02] but 58% in relation to the electoral roll when those
[00:09:06] people who are not in Serbia currently are taken into account,
[00:09:09] if it were 83%, for example, turnout of people who are... in Serbia,
[00:09:12] that would probably be 70 something percent official turnout,
[00:09:16] but that turnout would be dangerous for the government, so the president, I think, mentioned
[00:09:20] some similar figures recently that over 80%
[00:09:24] of those decided in Serbia, so his findings also
[00:09:27] approximately follow the same direction that the International
[00:09:31] Republican Institute showed, that is not good
[00:09:35] news for the government, because again no research shows that the government can
[00:09:38] significantly increase its voter base, which means that
[00:09:42] new voters who are coming are probably much more
[00:09:46] against the government than for the government, so the higher the turnout, the
[00:09:50] more undecided there are, those are all
[00:09:54] for the ruling party, and one more thing that is stated in that survey is the attitude
[00:09:57] of citizens towards foreign policy, how they
[00:10:00] think about which direction Serbia should go, uh
[00:10:04] now there is uh more
[00:10:06] people who would vote for the European Union in a referendum than
[00:10:10] before, so support for the European Union
[00:10:12] has somewhat increased in Serbia, this is not only shown by this
[00:10:16] survey, but several previous surveys in recent months, I think
[00:10:19] this is partly influenced by what is happening around Serbia, so not
[00:10:23] only what is happening in Serbia, but people see that, well, Montenegro has now
[00:10:27] accelerated its European integration, and even Albania,
[00:10:31] so people perceive that it is possible
[00:10:34] for the European Union to admit new members, which has led to a slight
[00:10:37] increase in support for Serbia's accession to the European Union, so there was
[00:10:41] a referendum question for joining the European Union, it would be
[00:10:44] 46%, 29% against, the rest are undecided or don't
[00:10:47] know, so we would see how that would turn out in reality, but also
[00:10:51] what is important is that, uh, those
[00:10:55] who support student protests
[00:10:58] are disproportionately pro-European oriented, so
[00:11:01] support for the European Union among those who support student
[00:11:04] protests is 61% and opposition is 2 something percent, that
[00:11:08] means that they are actually, how much can that affect the student movement, given
[00:11:12] that they have not clearly stated their position on that issue, I think that there is probably
[00:11:16] some strategic thinking that 61%
[00:11:19] are for the European Union, but the 20 something
[00:11:23] percent must not be lost because "no matter how negative these findings from the survey
[00:11:27] we discussed were relatively
[00:11:29] for the government, a rather uncertain election
[00:11:33] race is still expected, every vote will be important in that sense.
[00:11:36] I assume there is some strategic thinking that one should not
[00:11:40] clearly take a stand on the issue of the European Union by the student
[00:11:43] movement, because that could still alienate
[00:11:47] some of those people who are against the European Union, but would vote for
[00:11:50] the student list. These people are, therefore, a minority in relation to all people who
[00:11:54] support the student list, but they are not an
[00:11:57] insignificant factor. We don't know exactly yet when the elections will be, what
[00:12:01] we do know is that the president announced that he would resign
[00:12:04] at some point, that was the day before Vidovdan,
[00:12:08] but we see that everyone is campaigning, what are your
[00:12:11] thoughts, uh, how could the
[00:12:15] SNS government call elections at what
[00:12:18] point, and when we rely on legal
[00:12:21] deadlines, well, the only thing we know about legal
[00:12:25] deadlines currently is that regular presidential elections should be called
[00:12:29] on March 2, 2027, that is, in 6 and a half
[00:12:32] months, which is also quite close when we look at election
[00:12:36] calendars, so in some more normal circumstances, we would probably now have
[00:12:39] announcements of presidential candidacies, then presidential candidates would start campaigning,
[00:12:43] now we don't have that because it is expected that presidential elections will
[00:12:47] simply be a proxy battle between the student list and the Serbian Progressive
[00:12:50] Party, so regardless of who the candidates will be, people will more or less
[00:12:54] decide based on whether they are for Aleksandar Vučić or for the student
[00:12:58] movement, uh, but my theory,
[00:13:01] my assumption actually for several months is that if there are
[00:13:05] early parliamentary elections, they will be
[00:13:08] called before the presidential ones, because the government probably estimates
[00:13:12] that in parliamentary elections, with the dispersion
[00:13:15] of votes below the census, with minority lists, with phantom lists
[00:13:19] that we see being announced these days, with less
[00:13:24] try to win a majority in parliament,
[00:13:28] uh, which it cannot do in presidential elections, in presidential elections
[00:13:31] if the government's candidate, whoever that may be, wins
[00:13:34] 47%, now hypothetically, it goes to a second
[00:13:38] round, then the favorite is the opposition candidate
[00:13:41] or the student movement, uh, so we will see if
[00:13:44] the government is ready for that risk, that is, uh,
[00:13:48] if they were to go
[00:13:51] to parliamentary elections before the presidential ones,
[00:13:55] secure themselves with those presidential elections, and then secure themselves with those parliamentary elections, and then
[00:13:59] whether they win or lose the presidential elections will not be that important
[00:14:02] if they win a majority again in parliament, but it is still quite
[00:14:06] uncertain whether they will even be able to win a majority in parliament, so
[00:14:09] I think that currently the decision has not yet been made, I think that the
[00:14:12] order has been given within the Serbian Progressive Party to prepare for
[00:14:16] parliamentary elections by the end of this year, whether they will actually
[00:14:19] be called or not will be assessed at the beginning of autumn when
[00:14:23] uh... these
[00:14:27] handouts of social assistance are completed, and then the
[00:14:31] helicopter money that was announced for the second half of
[00:14:34] September. It is possible that one of the factors will be to wait and see who
[00:14:38] will win the elections in Bosnia and Herzegovina which are
[00:14:42] scheduled for October 4th, uh, so
[00:14:45] I think that it somehow makes sense to me why that is important
[00:14:49] for Aleksandar Vučić, well, I think it is important for him to see who
[00:14:52] will be his next associate in... uh Republika
[00:14:56] Srpska, I think he will strive for whoever wins the elections in
[00:15:00] Republika Srpska, we even saw that in the previous election cycle that it
[00:15:03] was quite uncertain, so Milorad Dodik's party won,
[00:15:07] but not excessively convincingly, so there are probably now
[00:15:11] , there is this uncertain race there
[00:15:14] and it will be important for
[00:15:16] Vučić to cooperate with whoever wins the elections in
[00:15:20] Republika Srpska on that side, among other things,
[00:15:24] also because of some logistical matters related to the elections
[00:15:27] and here I'm not just talking about these speculations
[00:15:30] about these migrant voters
[00:15:34] but actually there are people who have the right to vote who live in
[00:15:37] Republika Srpska who will be able to vote in Serbian elections in diplomatic
[00:15:41] representations, but someone needs to organize that, someone probably needs to also run
[00:15:44] some kind of campaign to increase turnout among those
[00:15:48] voters and so on, so my assumption is
[00:15:52] that it would be in the interest of the current government to certainly wait to see
[00:15:55] the outcome of those elections in Bosnia and Herzegovina and only then to
[00:15:59] call elections in Serbia, among other things, if that is their plan, but we will see if
[00:16:03] that factor is so important, are your thoughts closer to the elections possibly being at the end of
[00:16:06] October?
[00:16:14] That's another factor that should be taken into account, so if the elections in Serbia are
[00:16:18] at the end of October, it will be uncomfortably close to the anniversary of the collapse of
[00:16:21] the canopy, so no one will forget if the elections are on October 25th that
[00:16:25] November 1st is two years since the collapse of the canopy, and that topic would probably in
[00:16:29] some way cast a shadow over the entire campaign, meaning
[00:16:32] people would become aware that the anniversary is approaching and would again
[00:16:36] remember everything that happened
[00:16:39] regarding the canopy and so on, so I would perhaps, perhaps bet
[00:16:43] that the government, even if it plans elections by the end of the year, would wait for
[00:16:46] the anniversary of the collapse of the canopy to pass and only then to
[00:16:50] call elections, but again it's quite difficult to assess
[00:16:53] which factor is decisive, all factors are somewhat
[00:16:57] significant, but probably only within the
[00:17:00] Serbian Progressive Party is it known which factors will ultimately
[00:17:03] prevail. All those who are not from the Serbian Progressive Party
[00:17:06] or support it or are members themselves uh fight
[00:17:10] as they say against this regime, and now we have
[00:17:14] several different views on how
[00:17:17] the government will fall most easily. So we have opinions
[00:17:21] that the student movement is the only one that can challenge the
[00:17:25] SNS, then we have the idea of a single opposition column, besides
[00:17:28] that two, three, how do you
[00:17:31] view what we hear from participants in politics, it is otherwise
[00:17:34] interesting that this survey we mentioned at the beginning of the International
[00:17:38] Republican Institute also asked the question of how do you think
[00:17:42] that the opposition and student movement should contest
[00:17:45] the next elections, and among those who
[00:17:48] support student protests, the majority is
[00:17:52] for only the student list running, but it's not an overwhelming majority,
[00:17:56] about 41%, there are those who further support
[00:17:59] opposition parties also running in the elections, they are now divided on whether
[00:18:03] opposition parties should go separately from the student list or
[00:18:07] try to form one big list. I think it's completely impossible
[00:18:10] now, that the formation of the student list has entered
[00:18:14] that phase where it is very good and students repeat all the time that they don't want
[00:18:18] and that is also a factor, so now the only question
[00:18:21] remains whether opposition parties should run separately
[00:18:25] from the student list or should they all withdraw and support
[00:18:28] uh so the IRI survey
[00:18:31] showed that there is still a certain
[00:18:35] percentage of those who are against the government who would
[00:18:38] vote for opposition parties, but it is very important that there is no
[00:18:42] dispersion of votes below the census, so what seems to me
[00:18:46] based on what we see in this pre-election period,
[00:18:49] is that there will certainly be two main actors, the list around
[00:18:53] the Serbian Progressive Party and the list of the student movement, they seem to have
[00:18:56] the most visible activities currently, meaning the government has this
[00:19:00] tent campaign every weekend, on the other
[00:19:03] hand, this student unit in every village of the student
[00:19:07] movement has so far had dozens, it seems, of activities
[00:19:10] since the beginning of summer, so somewhere, somewhere
[00:19:13] those two actors are leading in their activities and
[00:19:17] obviously they will be the two biggest actors and there will be,
[00:19:20] no matter how many other lists there are, a certain referendum atmosphere
[00:19:24] between the student list and the list of the Serbian Progressive Party, and in those
[00:19:27] circumstances and in circumstances where there will be many of these small
[00:19:31] phantom lists that we can now foresee will run with
[00:19:35] the support of the government probably. Uh, it is very
[00:19:38] important for opposition parties, if they decide to go to the
[00:19:41] elections after all, to unite as much as possible, so that there is no risk of
[00:19:45] falling below the census, which would mean anything more than
[00:19:48] one list on this pole where Serbia against violence used to be, so
[00:19:52] these are those parties that are pro-European, conditionally speaking, and now
[00:19:55] they are in parliament, anything more than one list on that pole
[00:19:59] uh would be quite risky in my
[00:20:02] assessment, i.e., it would lead to the risk that some of those lists would not pass
[00:20:05] the census, and thus jeopardize not only their own political future, but also
[00:20:09] the chances for a change of government, the same applies to this right-wing spectrum
[00:20:13] where there are the Nada coalition and
[00:20:16] Nestorović's party, but I think that there is simply no chance
[00:20:20] that they, that they simply do not even want to think in that way of uniting,
[00:20:23] but that the only remaining question is how these parties
[00:20:27] of the pro-European opposition will come out.
[00:20:30] I ask for your opinion on what the activity of the right-wing has been all this
[00:20:34] time, you mentioned Miloš Jovanović, we didn't
[00:20:37] really see him at the protests with
[00:20:40] citizens, what are his chances now? Well, I think they are
[00:20:44] smaller than they would be in other circumstances, I mean, these
[00:20:48] surveys that we have seen recently which measure
[00:20:51] individual ratings gave them a result
[00:20:55] below the census, so perhaps around 2% or slightly more than
[00:20:58] that, it seems to me that now the Democratic
[00:21:01] Party of Serbia in its
[00:21:04] posts that I see on their social media
[00:21:07] has sharpened that ideological rhetoric, meaning
[00:21:10] they might have previously tried to move towards the center, but now they emphasize
[00:21:14] those topics that
[00:21:17] distinguish them as the right-wing, i.e., opposition to the European Union,
[00:21:20] opposition to some socially liberal views and
[00:21:23] so on, uh, that makes sense in terms of the fact that
[00:21:27] now that the student list covers that wide
[00:21:30] center of the opposition electorate and that we get
[00:21:34] sharpened ideological positions from both the right-wing
[00:21:38] and the pro-European side, because then they can strive to actually pick up
[00:21:41] those ideological extremes and not move more towards
[00:21:45] the center, but it's a very big question for the
[00:21:48] Democratic Party of Serbia and whether with that approach
[00:21:52] it can cross the census, maybe it could in some alliance again with
[00:21:55] Nestorović, but then the question of whether I have to correct
[00:21:58] you, now it's the New Democratic Party, I apologize,
[00:22:01] is Nestorović actually a true opposition, does that party even want to
[00:22:05] change the current government or not, do those
[00:22:08] entities have
[00:22:11] any potential for any
[00:22:14] consolidation, it seems to me perhaps it's not bad to remind ourselves of what happened
[00:22:17] in the elections
[00:22:20] in Belgrade for the city assembly
[00:22:23] when we talk about that movement. One more question for
[00:22:27] the end, do you think that the opposition is lagging
[00:22:30] behind SNS and the student movement in that
[00:22:34] decision of whether to go with whom, will they
[00:22:37] unite? Yes, I think that opposition
[00:22:40] parties are waiting almost until the announcement of the elections to make
[00:22:44] a final decision about how and in what
[00:22:47] format they will appear. How does that affect voters? Well, I think
[00:22:50] voters are confused, that is, those who are
[00:22:54] for a change of government, again I say, there are
[00:22:57] those among them who would vote for opposition parties, but I think they also need
[00:23:01] to be offered a clear option as early as possible, okay, if you are for
[00:23:04] opposition parties, this is the list, these are the people and so on, uh,
[00:23:08] because, well, let me go back one last time to this IRI
[00:23:11] survey, they therefore asked the question of whether
[00:23:14] uh, whether you think parties should run
[00:23:18] or not, well, there are some 20 something percent who think that parties should run separately
[00:23:22] from the student list, but then they also ask what you think is the biggest
[00:23:26] weakness of opposition parties and the largest number of those who
[00:23:30] responded said that it was fragmentation,
[00:23:33] disunity, disagreement, which is something that has been accompanying opposition parties for a
[00:23:37] long time. I think that if they want to participate in the elections
[00:23:40] and want to aim for a result that is above the threshold, which
[00:23:44] can contribute to power sharing, they should work on that
[00:23:47] unification and much... before the
[00:23:51] elections are called. This will be an excellent introduction for our next
[00:23:55] guest who will be here with us in the studio, that is
[00:23:58] Aleksandar Jovanović, from the ecological movement, so we will see
[00:24:01] his thoughts on all of this. Aleksandar, thank you very much for your time and
[00:24:05] for the conversation, thank you for the invitation.
[00:24:38] I am Ksenija Pavkov, watch
[00:24:41] N1.
[00:25:24] It's a historic day for the Galapagos Island of
[00:25:27] Floriana, as crates containing a long
[00:25:30] lost treasure are delivered to its shoreline. This
[00:25:34] is a absolutely a new beginning, it's a huge milestone, it's the first time
[00:25:38] taurtises have returned to Floriana Island in you 150 or
[00:25:42] so years. Each crate weighs up to 80
[00:25:45] kilograms and will need to be carried more than a kilometer inland
[00:25:48] where over the next... days,
[00:25:51] 158 giant land taurtises will be
[00:25:54] released. This first reintroduction is
[00:25:58] part of much larger long-term plan to rewild the island.
[00:26:14] As ecosystem engineers, tortises are
[00:26:17] critical to these tropical islands, helping disperse
[00:26:20] seeds, trample vegetation and create
[00:26:23] habitat for other species.
[00:26:26] Floriana had, we estimate 10,000, 15,00
[00:26:30] giant taurises at one point. Each island in the
[00:26:33] Galapagos has a distinct subspecies of tortois.
[00:26:37] Floriana's was the first to be driven to extinction,
[00:26:40] largely due to the 19th century whaling industry, which used
[00:26:44] the island as a stopover and exploited the turtles for
[00:26:47] food. But in 2000, while conducting a
[00:26:50] Galapagos-wide Tourtus Census, James Gibbs
[00:26:54] made a surprising discovery on Isabella Island's wolf
[00:26:57] volcano.
[00:27:01] the... the native species there, but immediately it became
[00:27:05] obvious that there are some strange taurtises here, and nowhere in Galapagos
[00:27:09] do you have the two types of tartises occurring
[00:27:12] together? genetic testing would reveal these strange
[00:27:16] tortises or hybrids carrying both
[00:27:19] wolf volcano and floriana lineage. it was
[00:27:22] always sort of a dream that, wow, maybe floriana taurtises
[00:27:26] actually still exist in some form and maybe get get them back on
[00:27:30] the island. 26 years later that...
[00:28:02] quite small and we have to take great care of them because at that
[00:28:06] size they are still easy pray for predators. According to the
[00:28:10] Galapago's conservancy, captive bred tortices need to be between
[00:28:14] five and seven years old for them to have fighting chance when released in
[00:28:18] the wild. But back on Floriana, this
[00:28:21] pioneering group are all 12 to 14 years old,
[00:28:25] added maturity that will hopefully ensure their homecoming is
[00:28:28] success. Each taurtice is also fitted with a...
[00:28:49] change won't happen overnights and more releases are planned in coming
[00:28:53] years, but if the classic fable teaches us
[00:28:56] anything, you can bet on the tortois, it will take a long
[00:28:59] time to get back to the 1000, 1500. taurtises, they do
[00:29:03] grow slowly, but they're very steady and persistent, I mean the taurtis and the
[00:29:06] hair, um, the taurtis does win the race, I think it is just
[00:29:10] beginning, and the island is going to get his taurtises back and start
[00:29:14] itself to replenish and renew.
[00:29:26] This isn't your average jacket, it's one
[00:29:29] specifically designed to help you fall asleep.
[00:29:32] anytime and anywhere,
[00:29:36] so I'm going to try to take a 10-minute nap in this
[00:29:40] chair and let you know how my sleep was. Good
[00:29:43] night. The flashing red light inside the hood is meant to help me
[00:29:47] drift off, while this ring tracks my heart rate and body
[00:29:51] temperature. If my pulse stays too high, the jacket plays
[00:29:54] a laby. So I
[00:29:57] don't think I slept, but I feel very refreshed and I actually feel
[00:30:00] a little bit more relaxed.
[00:30:32] search has linked too little sleep to increased risk of heart disease,
[00:30:36] obesity and stroke, but it's also costing Japan an
[00:30:40] estimated 3% of its GDP each
[00:30:43] year. Now to help the nation catch more zs,
[00:30:46] the government is betting on sleep tech, a market expected to
[00:30:50] top $98 million by
[00:30:52] 2027. Gadgets include box you can sleep
[00:30:56] in standing up, a bed that lies flat when you do...