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[00:00:27] Another hot day in some cities. The temperature reached
[00:00:31] 40 degrees Celsius, and a red weather alarm is in effect,
[00:00:34] signaling that the weather is very dangerous. The Republic Hydrometeorological
[00:00:38] really a public debate, considering Institute calls for following doctors' advice, and
[00:00:41] for caution regarding fires. Good afternoon, my name is Tatjana
[00:00:45] Aleksić, you are watching Dan Uživo, and these are the topics
[00:00:48] of the day.
[00:00:50] The peak of the heatwave in Serbia is marked by fires in Ibarska,
[00:00:54] Ibarska Klisura, Deliblatska Peščara, and a fire at the landfill in
[00:00:57] Bačka Palanka. N1 crews are at exceptional
[00:01:03] considering locations. Director Stevan Filipović was beaten
[00:01:06] in the center of Belgrade, claiming that he was attacked by mercenaries of
[00:01:09] the ruling party. The Prosecutor's Office launched
[00:01:12] an investigation.
[00:01:16] Research by the International Republican Institute, which
[00:01:19] favors the student list over the government. The President of Serbia
[00:01:23] says that this is not true. We discuss research and elections
[00:01:26] with Marko Vujić, assistant professor at the Faculty of Political
[00:01:30] Sciences.
[00:01:34] The Minister of Energy says that at Djerdap, every drop of
[00:01:38] water is converted into electricity, but in extreme
[00:01:41] hydrological conditions, the priority is electricity production or
[00:01:44] maintaining the Danube's water level. We will discuss this with physicist
[00:01:48] and science journalist Slobodan
[00:01:50] Bubnjević.
[00:02:00] The peak of the heatwave in Serbia is marked by fires in
[00:02:03] several locations in the country. Fires are burning in the stretch from Maglič to
[00:02:07] Ušće in Ibarska Klisura, in Deliblatska Peščara, and a fire
[00:02:10] at the landfill in Bačka Palanka. N1 crews are at
[00:02:14] crisis locations, and the situation in Deliblatska Peščara was checked by
[00:02:18] our reporter Jelena Mirković.
[00:02:21] The fire that broke out yesterday afternoon in Deliblatska
[00:02:25] Peščara and covered 300 hectares of forest has not yet
[00:02:28] been localized. The situation on the ground is unknown, as
[00:02:32] the police, for security reasons, do not allow anyone involved in extinguishing
[00:02:36] the fire to pass beyond the entrance to the
[00:02:39] educational center Čardak. The Ministry of Internal Affairs told
[00:02:43] N1 that members of the helicopter unit are participating in extinguishing
[00:02:46] the fire and that the Ministry of Internal Affairs engaged three
[00:02:50] helicopters. What we recorded on the ground is that
[00:02:53] helicopters are supplied with water from Lake Kraljevac, which in
[00:02:57] a way makes their job easier, unofficially, considering
[00:03:01] that the lake is close to the area affected by the
[00:03:04] fire. There are more than 30 firefighters on the ground, as well
[00:03:08] as 80 members of the sector for emergency situations,
[00:03:11] heavy machinery has been deployed to stop the spread of
[00:03:14] the fire. It is not yet known when the fire will be
[00:03:18] localized, given that the temperature today is very
[00:03:22] high. This is not the first fire that has affected Deliblatska
[00:03:26] Peščara during the summer. In late July, a similar situation occurred.
[00:03:30] At that time, the fire covered slightly fewer hectares, as it was said then,
[00:03:33] about 20 hectares were on fire, and it took
[00:03:36] the authorities five days to localize
[00:03:40] the fire. Jelena Mirković, N1, Deliblatska
[00:03:43] Peščara. In Bačka Palanka, an emergency situation was declared
[00:03:46] due to a fire at the landfill, which has been burning since the night
[00:03:50] between Tuesday and Wednesday. Citizens are advised to minimize
[00:03:54] time spent outdoors, reports Ina
[00:03:56] Džakula. At the city landfill in Bačka Palo,
[00:04:00] for the third time this year, and two days ago, a fire broke out that
[00:04:04] has not yet been extinguished. The fire broke out
[00:04:07] on the night between Tuesday and Wednesday around 1:30
[00:04:10] AM on the left side of the city landfill on the road to Novi
[00:04:13] Sad. Thick smoke yesterday covered the city, while firefighters
[00:04:17] and communal services tried to localize the fire, which, according to
[00:04:20] the municipality, flared up due to unfavorable weather
[00:04:24] conditions. We as citizens are really, really
[00:04:27] extremely concerned about this situation, because this is not the first
[00:04:31] time this has happened, so already in May we had a problem with
[00:04:34] the burning landfill, when, as on this occasion,
[00:04:37] an emergency situation was declared in the municipality
[00:04:41] of Bačka Palanka, however, the municipal crisis
[00:04:44] management staff did not issue any protection measures or
[00:04:48] recommendations to citizens regarding this
[00:04:51] situation. Also, we do not know
[00:04:54] the position of the Public Health Institute of Vojvodina, so
[00:04:57] we have no no
[00:05:00] measurements of air quality at the moment. This is
[00:05:03] the third fire at the same landfill
[00:05:07] this year. The previous one burned for more than a week, so citizens
[00:05:11] are asking if the problem is only temporarily resolved instead of being permanently
[00:05:15] solved. The provincial government already in May allocated
[00:05:18] 44.2 million dinars for urgent remediation
[00:05:21] of the fire. We as citizens have the right to know at all times what our
[00:05:25] air is like, what our water is like, what our land is like. However, the municipality
[00:05:28] does not try much about it. There are no programs
[00:05:32] actually that concern environmental
[00:05:35] protection, even the environmental protection reports are questionable,
[00:05:39] that is, we at least do not have access to them. While machines are working
[00:05:42] at this moment to remediate the fire, the recommendation for citizens,
[00:05:46] especially pregnant women, children, the elderly,
[00:05:49] but also people suffering from chronic diseases, is to minimize
[00:05:53] time spent outdoors. Ina
[00:05:56] Džakula, N1, Bačka Palanka.
[00:06:00] The large fire that broke out on Wednesday in several places in Ibarska Klisura,
[00:06:04] in the area from Varošica Ušće to Maglič, has not yet
[00:06:07] been extinguished, reports N1 reporter Nenad
[00:06:10] Božović. It is the second day since the fires broke out
[00:06:14] in the Ibar valley. The most intense fires are
[00:06:17] around Varošica Ušće, and about 20
[00:06:20] kilometers downstream along the Ibar. Mostly the right bank of the
[00:06:24] Ibar is burning, after vegetation
[00:06:27] low vegetation that was first affected, now
[00:06:31] the fire has spread to coniferous forests. Many people
[00:06:35] are on the ground. Firefighters and workers of Srbija Šume
[00:06:38] are trying to create a perimeter to stop the spread
[00:06:42] of the fire. However, during the night, the wind caused major problems.
[00:06:46] What no one knows at this moment
[00:06:49] is what could be the cause?
[00:06:52] Of course, high temperatures are
[00:06:55] what additionally contributed to the fire
[00:06:58] spreading, but people who live in this
[00:07:02] area, next to the railway where the fire first
[00:07:05] appeared, say that one of the causes could be the train
[00:07:09] because, they say, they noticed that it was sparking at the moment
[00:07:13] it was moving towards Ušće. As it came out of
[00:07:16] this tunnel, it was carrying flames from the military
[00:07:20] settlement in Kraljevo. Everything was
[00:07:22] burning up to Ušće. Yesterday, when they told me that the Ibar valley
[00:07:26] was burning, I got in the car and went down, about 12-13
[00:07:30] km down the Ibar, everywhere I saw about ten fires on the other side,
[00:07:33] meaning the Ibar, above the railway. When you reach a hill, you could see the whole
[00:07:37] valley down to Maglič, 30, 40 km, everything was in
[00:07:40] smoke and everything was on fire. It was burning down there yesterday. That was low
[00:07:44] vegetation, rocky, but here, you see, it's dense
[00:07:47] grass, dense forest. This was once
[00:07:51] reforested by young people, meaning it's all young forest, and it can very easily
[00:07:55] catch fire and burn up to the
[00:07:58] whole Žaračka mountain. So I appeal to the fire services
[00:08:02] to localize this as soon as possible, if they
[00:08:05] can. Otherwise, it used to happen that
[00:08:09] fires appeared in the Ibar valley, sometimes...
[00:08:12] the area where coniferous forests burned was
[00:08:16] much larger. Will
[00:08:20] firefighters be able to reduce it now, that is still
[00:08:23] uncertain, because weather forecasts are not in their
[00:08:27] favor, as no rain is expected in this part of Serbia. They say
[00:08:31] that for at least the next five or six days it will be warm with
[00:08:34] temperatures ranging between 33 and
[00:08:37] 35 degrees Celsius, and this will further
[00:08:40] complicate extinguishing and localizing the fire.
[00:08:43] Nenad Božević, N1,
[00:08:46] Ušće. The fire near Leskovac has been
[00:08:49] extinguished, but firefighters are still on duty in the area of
[00:08:53] the village of Razgojina, halfway to Niš, where it also burned
[00:08:57] last year, reports our Milan Stojanović.
[00:09:01] Dramatic images that were arriving yesterday afternoon
[00:09:04] from the vicinity of Leskovac, more precisely from the area of
[00:09:08] the village of Razgojina, today are replaced by other dramatic
[00:09:11] images. but certainly better news because the fire
[00:09:15] has been extinguished, and what remains is burned,
[00:09:18] low vegetation in the pine forest and around the pine
[00:09:22] forest in this hilly area of the Leskovac
[00:09:25] basin. What can be seen from
[00:09:28] this point are the first houses that are located about
[00:09:32] a kilometer from here in the settlement itself,
[00:09:35] which were not affected by the fire. Firefighters
[00:09:39] continue to patrol this area, and in general, in extinguishing
[00:09:43] the fire, voluntary fire
[00:09:46] brigades also participated. In general, the
[00:09:49] residents themselves helped.
[00:09:52] This place is located about halfway
[00:09:56] from Niš to Leskovac. A fire also burned nearby
[00:10:00] last summer during that heatwave
[00:10:04] in July towards the village
[00:10:08] of Babičko. This time, according to unofficial
[00:10:11] information, the situation was
[00:10:14] somewhat better, meaning that the fire that occurred
[00:10:17] last year near this place was
[00:10:21] larger. Milan Stojanović, N1, Leskovac.
[00:10:31] How did the public debate on amendments to the Law on the
[00:10:34] Fundamentals of the Education System look like? Is there
[00:10:38] room for agreement or is this a take it or leave it principle? I will
[00:10:41] talk about this with Ana Dimitrijević, President of the Forum of Belgrade High Schools.
[00:10:45] Good afternoon, thank you for being here. Good afternoon. So let's start by discussing how
[00:10:49] this public debate, or expert discussion,
[00:10:52] looked like, depending on who you
[00:10:55] ask. Yes, our impression was from the very
[00:10:59] beginning that this was not
[00:11:03] that the media were not allowed in. I found out when I
[00:11:06] arrived there, even though they applied on time, many of my colleagues
[00:11:09] were rejected by email, and the hall was not
[00:11:13] full in the end. There were some who
[00:11:16] came even though they were rejected, hoping to
[00:11:20] enter and take the places of those who didn't show up, but that didn't
[00:11:23] happen. Then there was a small,
[00:11:27] how shall I say, discussion outside the entrance to the hall itself, because we were
[00:11:30] asked to leave our mobile phones outside the hall where
[00:11:34] the discussion would take place, which we did not
[00:11:38] agree to. In the end, a compromise
[00:11:41] was reached that phones could be brought into the hall, but they must be placed
[00:11:44] in a box that we can all see, so that we know no one will touch our phones.
[00:11:48] Some even gave up, not wanting to agree to
[00:11:52] that compromise. So it was more of a panel
[00:11:55] within, uh, how can I say, a closed-type
[00:11:59] professional discussion. The minister explained that it was
[00:12:02] a professional discussion, since in the explanation from the ministry why there were no,
[00:12:05] why journalists were not invited, or rather why they were not allowed to
[00:12:09] participate in something that was announced as a public
[00:12:12] debate, the explanation is that it was a professional discussion, that
[00:12:16] the minister told us before we entered, when we actually
[00:12:19] protested about leaving mobile devices,
[00:12:23] the minister explained that this was just the first in a series
[00:12:27] of such discussions, and that this first one was intended to be
[00:12:31] uh, in a professional circle, so that we, uh, from
[00:12:34] how can I say, the educational community
[00:12:38] actually discuss among ourselves first, and then we will convey
[00:12:41] all of that to the public at the next discussion when it is before the
[00:12:45] parliamentary committee or whatever, uh,
[00:12:48] I mean, I don't know why it's even
[00:12:52] called a public debate. It's
[00:12:56] uh, uh, how can I say, we were invited to it two days
[00:13:00] after we should have come, and only then was the draft
[00:13:03] of the Zosovo
[00:13:05] amendments officially posted. We learned about it from the media and from
[00:13:09] social networks. There was a stir, and in a way, it seems to me that
[00:13:13] it pushed these educational authorities to deal with it, to publish it, to
[00:13:17] organize this public debate. I'm afraid it wouldn't have happened at all. Do you think
[00:13:21] it wasn't their intention for the law to go through
[00:13:24] a debate, but only after the
[00:13:27] public became alarmed by the proposed solutions, that it then
[00:13:31] came about additionally? Well, you know, considering the fact that
[00:13:34] all of that appeared in the media and on social networks,
[00:13:38] and this public debate itself, everything is happening between July
[00:13:42] 20th and August 5th, you know, we don't all go on vacation
[00:13:46] at the same time, regardless of what
[00:13:49] everyone else believes, that we leave at the end of June and
[00:13:53] return in September, that's not how it looks.
[00:13:55] But at that moment, that is, in the period from July
[00:13:59] 20th to August 5th, absolutely every education worker, every
[00:14:02] teacher is on annual leave, so
[00:14:05] I think it's very tendentious that this is being done at all, and it's not the first thing
[00:14:09] that's being introduced and changed and so on, for
[00:14:13] several years, how this is being done in the middle of summer, when we are not
[00:14:16] able to physically be there, when we are on vacation,
[00:14:20] we cannot deal with something to the same extent, even digitally and electronically,
[00:14:24] as it would be if it happened when we were here during the school year.
[00:14:28] What was the problem with mobile phones, was that
[00:14:31] explained to you? Well, I think it is,
[00:14:34] no, I don't just think, I even think someone among them mentioned that it was to prevent misuse,
[00:14:38] I suppose they meant they didn't want someone
[00:14:41] to record, uh,
[00:14:45] I assume it was about video recording because people entered with laptops,
[00:14:49] some, some even had audio recorders
[00:14:52] that they use for private purposes. No one of those people recorded
[00:14:56] as far as I know, but sound could be recorded, they had
[00:15:00] some smartwatches, so in principle, I think
[00:15:03] that leaving phones was so that, for example, a video
[00:15:07] recording wouldn't be made, but I don't believe anyone in a hall of 50 people,
[00:15:11] we all look at each other, sit next to each other, would do that if warned not to. I mean,
[00:15:14] just, so how did that, let's call it a professional discussion
[00:15:18] of a closed type, look like? Did you get
[00:15:21] uh, the explanations you needed? "If
[00:15:25] you ask me, I didn't get an explanation because I don't believe the explanations we were given
[00:15:29] there. The explanations were all that these were more or less
[00:15:32] cosmetic changes, that, uh, they
[00:15:36] don't understand why we are making such a fuss about it.
[00:15:39] Uh, if they are cosmetic changes, why did they introduce them? They introduced them
[00:15:43] for greater efficiency and easier decision-making. More things should
[00:15:46] be delegated to the school itself, which would mean
[00:15:50] that schools would gain greater autonomy, but in
[00:15:54] this constellation we live in, that is not the case, because principals
[00:15:57] are actually, how shall I put it, extensions of the ministry, there
[00:16:01] is no autonomy there. And
[00:16:03] furthermore, the explanations were, how shall I say, somewhat
[00:16:07] softened, they tried to be very kind,
[00:16:10] benevolent, gave us some examples from practice and how some
[00:16:14] things are terrible and how something can be solved, that we can
[00:16:17] actually talk very nicely even though we are, listen to this, on opposite sides. I don't
[00:16:21] know why the Ministry of Education, well, you know, considering
[00:16:24] that there were accusations that we are obstructionists
[00:16:28] and that we support anarchy in schools at
[00:16:31] that meeting, at that meeting, someone from the ministry told you that you support anarchy,
[00:16:35] the minister personally told me that. Uh, so
[00:16:40] that, I'm not surprised that they
[00:16:44] drew attention to how, you see, we are talking in a, conditionally speaking,
[00:16:47] friendly tone. What we didn't like was that they
[00:16:50] tried to draw us into some kind of, how shall I
[00:16:54] say, casual, relaxed
[00:16:57] mode where, you know, we're all joking around,
[00:17:01] it's hot, we came to talk about something that isn't really that
[00:17:04] bad. That's my personal impression. It's like
[00:17:08] they somehow undermine our intelligence, as if
[00:17:11] we don't see that they are actually trying to pull the wool over our eyes, that
[00:17:15] we don't know the real reason for these changes. The essence
[00:17:19] of these changes is actually by no means an increase in
[00:17:22] efficiency, by no means an increase in the autonomy
[00:17:26] of schools, but on the contrary, a narrowing
[00:17:29] of the powers of
[00:17:32] teachers, students, and parents, and
[00:17:35] somehow intimidation. with this revocation of licenses,
[00:17:39] although they tried to explain it to us, everything
[00:17:42] in that draft is very poorly defined, meaning nothing
[00:17:46] is precisely defined, but broadly, so that's then
[00:17:49] very convenient, is that actually the intention,
[00:17:52] to be open to different interpretations? So now it
[00:17:55] depends on who interprets that provision. Well, I would
[00:17:59] say that's it, because in the end, the decision
[00:18:02] is made by the principal, it's made by the inspector. That's certainly
[00:18:06] someone who is closer to
[00:18:09] the ministry than to teachers, parents, and students. Unfortunately,
[00:18:12] that's how it is. So in that sense, they left it open so
[00:18:16] that someone who wants to implement some punitive
[00:18:20] measure, to forbid something, to prevent something, could do
[00:18:23] it using those provisions. Of course, you can understand those
[00:18:27] provisions differently, but it depends on who
[00:18:30] decides. And the thing is that we insisted
[00:18:33] that either some of the provisions be abolished, hmm, and
[00:18:37] or that it be very, very clearly specified in
[00:18:41] which cases and what happens. You know, it says there that a
[00:18:45] license can be revoked after a written warning from the principal, if
[00:18:48] the professor, teacher does not responsibly perform their
[00:18:52] educational work. What does that mean, what does that
[00:18:55] mean, you understand? You can really stretch
[00:18:59] that to some absolute nonsense that happened
[00:19:02] due to some coincidence, you find yourself in a situation where someone wants to
[00:19:06] revoke your license. Meanwhile, the problem with revoking a license is not
[00:19:10] just that, they want someone to revoke your
[00:19:14] license for a violation of the employment relationship. That's like if someone
[00:19:17] didn't come to work for three days and the university revoked
[00:19:21] my diploma. Well, I didn't violate the knowledge
[00:19:24] I have, but I violated some rules, right, at
[00:19:27] work they can punish me with suspension, take away my salary,
[00:19:31] fire me, after all, revoking a license is an absolutely
[00:19:34] pointless measure. Now, what's your impression? After this
[00:19:38] meeting, is there room for changes, for
[00:19:41] clarification, for listening
[00:19:44] to what you said, or is
[00:19:48] this a draft as it is, take it or
[00:19:51] leave it? Well, they didn't present it as a draft that is take it or
[00:19:55] leave it. They constantly emphasized that they organized this public debate
[00:19:58] and that it was the first of several, so that they could hear
[00:20:01] what we think, so that they could adapt
[00:20:05] to some of our criticisms. Suggestions for some
[00:20:09] things. Of course, they will not change everything we
[00:20:12] said. I mean, I would be shocked if that happened, it would be nice,
[00:20:16] certainly, but uh, I think that somewhere where
[00:20:20] they can make a concession, conditionally speaking, meaning where they can
[00:20:24] retreat and say, okay, we can do
[00:20:27] this, if it doesn't conflict with what we perceive as their ultimate intention,
[00:20:31] they will probably make those concessions somewhere.
[00:20:35] Uh...
[00:20:38] I don't know. What I fear is that they will make concessions
[00:20:42] where it is not particularly important to us, that on those
[00:20:45] most important things that we insisted on, not much will
[00:20:49] change. Now, what is important to you, what is important to you? Different things are
[00:20:53] being changed here, the way
[00:20:56] parents will participate, to what extent, how student organizing will be,
[00:20:59] we're talking about licenses, what is
[00:21:02] important to you, for example? Look, for us, from the perspective of teachers, this issue with
[00:21:05] licenses is certainly something that upset us the most, but the
[00:21:09] essence is that we now have a very good
[00:21:12] communication with parents and students, and we want it to stay
[00:21:16] that way, and we actually, unlike the educational authorities and
[00:21:20] the authorities in general, the school administrations, we like that
[00:21:23] parents have finally taken on their role and started to
[00:21:27] engage with the school in a certain way, of course that must have
[00:21:31] a limit, but
[00:21:34] uh, in most schools, what I see, hear
[00:21:37] and read, those parents are dealing with exactly the things they should
[00:21:41] be dealing with. I don't think their
[00:21:45] powers, those opportunities, should be restricted in any way,
[00:21:48] and you know, that's why it's important to us, regardless
[00:21:52] of whether it concerns teachers
[00:21:54] directly, as well as, of course, students who absolutely
[00:21:57] deserve to have their freedoms. But here's just one more question,
[00:22:01] uh, was uh,
[00:22:04] this law as it was, good?
[00:22:07] Uh, would you support
[00:22:10] its changes under other circumstances, or is this
[00:22:13] law now changing only to prevent
[00:22:17] that unity you are talking about which, by
[00:22:20] chance, was created last year in Serbia? That's
[00:22:23] an excellent question, because I was thinking about it, and we were talking among
[00:22:27] ourselves yesterday after this discussion, that actually, if we lived
[00:22:31] somewhere else, if we didn't have this situation that we have, and if we weren't aware
[00:22:34] of the fact that what is intended by these changes is just to
[00:22:38] prevent blockades from ever, ever happening again,
[00:22:42] boycotts of classes, suspension of classes, and so
[00:22:44] on, we probably wouldn't
[00:22:48] react to some of these measures.
[00:22:50] To some we would, but to some, this with the license is
[00:22:53] absolutely intimidating, but in any country where such
[00:22:57] a provision is enacted, I think everyone should protest, because it's clear what a license
[00:23:01] is, why it's obtained and why it's lost. But as for
[00:23:04] whether it's written for children that their right to
[00:23:07] association in clubs is guaranteed, or if it only states for
[00:23:11] participation in the work of the student parliament, how can I tell
[00:23:14] you, some things here, as the minister would say, are taken
[00:23:18] for granted. We insist that nothing is taken for granted, because it depends
[00:23:21] on who takes it for granted, it needs to be very clearly stated what is meant
[00:23:25] here, what is guaranteed, what is not guaranteed, what is prohibited
[00:23:29] and what is allowed, because without that, as you said at the beginning, depending
[00:23:33] on who interprets the law, it can be interpreted
[00:23:36] very differently, and what is an even bigger problem, if parent councils are
[00:23:40] organized from school to school,
[00:23:43] that is, elected in different ways, which could happen due to
[00:23:47] this draft, it will be a mess, how shall I say, a
[00:23:50] fair, because every school will do its own thing. Thank you
[00:23:54] very much for this conversation, we will follow everything that happens
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[00:30:36] The Minister of Energy says that at Đerdap every drop of water
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