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[00:00:00] That's a new thing, imagine if it's in Serbia's interest, if the Americans
[00:00:03] want it, I think it would be
[00:00:06] good, in any case, the
[00:00:10] Gulf countries have already
[00:00:12] bought huge quantities of Ukrainian drones that
[00:00:16] help them repel these
[00:00:19] attacks by Iranian drones. In any case,
[00:00:22] European countries, full of European countries, are looking for
[00:00:26] Ukrainian drones which are very effective and which have...
[00:00:32] very interesting, they will point out and have turned the tide of this war and in any
[00:00:35] case they help us to
[00:00:42] possibly an aggressor again, so that and that they will certainly touch upon this fight now. 90% of Russian losses are from drones, meaning Ukrainian drones, and
[00:00:46] Russia has already lost 1 million and 500 thousand
[00:00:49] soldiers, 1 million 5000
[00:00:52] soldiers,
[00:00:53] 12,250 tanks,
[00:00:57] 25,100.
[00:01:00] Armored
[00:01:07] artillery systems, and drones have done
[00:01:10] a great job so that
[00:01:13] this is not done not only against
[00:01:16] Ukraine but also against Europe. If 1.5 million
[00:01:20] went through Poland to Germany and beyond, and
[00:01:24] another 800 combat aircraft were shot down, and
[00:01:28] helicopters, Ukraine. "actually saved
[00:01:31] Europe from
[00:01:33] Schwarzkopf Gliss, my hair affects a quick Russian invasion, so now the Russians
[00:01:36] are preparing for a longer journey, but they still
[00:01:40] haven't given up aggressive plans
[00:01:43] towards Europe. Studio, mhm, yes, uh, this
[00:01:47] visit is happening at a time of increasingly fierce and stronger
[00:01:50] attacks by Moscow. We saw uh an attack a few
[00:01:54] days ago in Kyiv when more than 17 people were
[00:01:57] killed, uh Ukrainian President
[00:02:00] said before coming to Belgrade that Ukraine
[00:02:03] needs uh defense against Russian attacks, that
[00:02:06] they need uh anti-aircraft missiles, anti-
[00:02:10] ballistic uh missiles, uh,
[00:02:13] President Zelensky also posted photos this morning of a new
[00:02:17] attack uh on Ukraine, uh, so, what
[00:02:21] is it that Ukraine needs most at this moment in terms of
[00:02:25] weapons? Yes, anti-ballistic
[00:02:28] is needed, I am in Kyiv. Meaning, we remember every
[00:02:32] other day these attacks with ballistic missiles, but Serbia's anti-ballistic
[00:02:36] I'm not sure if it has these
[00:02:38] missiles, certainly not, but in any case, from
[00:02:42] some of our friends in European
[00:02:46] Union countries, we are asking for
[00:02:48] that
[00:02:50] so that they can protect our peaceful cities from these
[00:02:53] barbaric attacks, in any case
[00:02:57] this is number one, secondly... secondly
[00:03:00] we also want to develop our own missile
[00:03:03] program, that's modern warfare, when you don't produce missiles and
[00:03:07] are ballistic, you have to produce missiles so that you can
[00:03:10] counter them, so some technologies we also
[00:03:14] use from our Western partners
[00:03:17] and they somehow
[00:03:20] help us with that, but mostly we do it ourselves. For cruise missiles
[00:03:24] the program is already ready, they have started
[00:03:27] production, such...
[00:04:00] you will see what kind of impact it has on the front line, then
[00:04:03] it is important to have a reserve to use it
[00:04:07] to protect your territory, to reclaim
[00:04:10] territory that was already
[00:04:23] Volodimir Zelensky's visit, in the studio
[00:04:25] I'm talking to Marko Savković from the ISAC Fund, and Mr.
[00:04:29] Savković. "Thank you for being uh for being here, how do you
[00:04:33] assess this visit, as we discussed with Mr. Lovčenko,
[00:04:37] it comes at a time of increasingly strong, increasingly
[00:04:40] intense Russian attacks on Ukraine. Well, it's an important
[00:04:44] visit, so it's certainly been several
[00:04:47] months since it was speculated that Zelensky would come to Belgrade, symbolically
[00:04:51] very important, uh, we know how Serbia is viewed
[00:04:54] in many European Union countries and in Europe, it is said that
[00:04:58] it is one of the last alliances." if not the last that
[00:05:01] Russia has in this part
[00:05:04] of Europe, that can still be debated,
[00:05:07] but it is certainly
[00:05:11] a very important visit. And we will see now at the press conference,
[00:05:15] among other things, what are the messages that the two presidents
[00:05:18] will send, mhm, most of the discussion is actually about these topics, we heard
[00:05:22] what is official, that is economic cooperation,
[00:05:25] it is interesting that Volodimir Zelensky also said that they will discuss
[00:05:29] all other topics that can improve relations between the two countries, as well as the
[00:05:33] issue of uh security, of course, as
[00:05:36] we discussed with Mr. Levchenko, officially they never
[00:05:39] talk about these weapons and... military
[00:05:43] cooperation, but we assume that it was
[00:05:46] a topic, perhaps last night's talks between Zelensky and Vučić
[00:05:52] topic today. So, very possible, at one point
[00:05:55] it was announced that
[00:05:59] deliveries to all countries would be stopped,
[00:06:02] so that was a kind of indirect admission, so
[00:06:06] that ammunition did end up on
[00:06:09] the battlefield in Ukraine through intermediaries, mhm. Uh,
[00:06:13] Serbia's defense industry essentially produces what Ukraine desperately needs
[00:06:16] at this moment, and the previous speaker
[00:06:20] pointed this out. Likewise, there are some
[00:06:23] limitations, but Ukraine has meanwhile,
[00:06:26] simply forced by circumstances, developed an
[00:06:30] exceptional defense industry that is highly adaptable, that
[00:06:34] somewhat follows the trends that we see now in
[00:06:37] modern warfare and I think that their focus
[00:06:41] is now on the development
[00:06:44] of ballistic missiles, various systems, I'm not sure if we
[00:06:48] really have expertise there, this with
[00:06:50] drones is quite interesting, but that is an
[00:06:54] announcement and there are several other countries that
[00:06:57] are very interested, they would like to get involved, we must not
[00:07:00] lose sight, the previous speaker put it very well, very well
[00:07:04] pointed out, from the perspective of countries
[00:07:08] of the European Union, EU member states that are let's say directly
[00:07:11] next to Ukraine. or simply somewhere they assume that they
[00:07:15] could be tomorrow the next target of Russia,
[00:07:18] Ukraine is on the rampart of the European
[00:07:21] Union, the war it is fighting, in a way it is also fighting for
[00:07:24] the European Union, so
[00:07:28] uh for a long time now, there has been thinking
[00:07:31] about ways to integrate both Ukraine's
[00:07:35] defense system and its defense industry into what
[00:07:39] is already happening in the European Union, which is an attempt to integrate. defense
[00:07:43] capabilities, you mentioned drones, uh,
[00:07:47] Israel is also interested in drone production, United
[00:07:50] Arab Emirates, these are on the other hand all allies of the United
[00:07:54] States of America, is this then a, let's say,
[00:07:57] win-win situation for the Serbian defense
[00:08:00] industry? Look, yes, with the difference
[00:08:04] that you mentioned Hill several times in the
[00:08:07] introduction and so on, that was America under
[00:08:11] Biden. "This is now America under Trump, I think there are differences,
[00:08:14] in America under Biden clear
[00:08:18] instructions were given, so to find ways to help Ukraine, hence
[00:08:22] the quick understanding that
[00:08:25] Serbia has something that can help Ukraine in
[00:08:29] resisting Russia, but
[00:08:32] uh the idea that all efforts will now somehow
[00:08:35] suddenly be put, here one must
[00:08:38] still be careful, because Serbia still."
[00:08:42] counts on maintaining a relationship with
[00:08:45] Russia, uh, I think that it has not been
[00:08:49] a partnership for a long time, not even an alliance,
[00:08:52] interests with Russia coincide on
[00:08:56] several issues, but now the room for maneuver has
[00:08:59] also narrowed significantly, Zelensky's visit is, after all, proof of that,
[00:09:03] because it perhaps could not have happened a year or two ago,
[00:09:07] but now it has,
[00:09:10] Russia's ability to somehow
[00:09:13] punish Serbia for hosting Zelensky is now, I
[00:09:17] would say, very very limited, uh, and
[00:09:20] how will the public that is pro-Russian
[00:09:23] oriented react to all this that you have said?
[00:09:28] perhaps even a majority, we heard
[00:09:32] in the poll uh our people who say that Zelensky
[00:09:35] should even be persona non grata, so how to
[00:09:39] explain to that part of the public that Serbia is
[00:09:42] moving away in a way from Russia and explain this
[00:09:46] visit of Zelensky? Well, that's
[00:09:48] one interlocutor who follows more carefully,
[00:09:52] Serbia has been moving away from Russia for a longer
[00:09:56] time, so those relations are, I would say, far from good, there
[00:10:00] is no great breakthrough, visits are not at that
[00:10:03] level, there is no ambition for cooperation as it would be if Russia were under
[00:10:07] such a system of sanctions that Serbia cannot
[00:10:10] avoid, and when it tries to, it is under the scrutiny of
[00:10:14] uh Western international public opinion, it gets
[00:10:18] into big trouble, uh, I think that
[00:10:21] citizens who are, let's say, pro-Russian, I think they
[00:10:25] will certainly not like this visit by Zelensky, it somehow doesn't fit into, let's
[00:10:29] say, that way of looking at our
[00:10:33] reality, but uh
[00:10:36] the government has such dominance over the media that there are several, let's say,
[00:10:40] ways in which they will be able to justify or cover up
[00:10:44] this visit, and they will point out that
[00:10:47] Serbia and Ukraine share problems of territorial
[00:10:51] integrity, while not saying how they share them, that is, that is
[00:10:57] that Ukraine is simply being helped from a
[00:11:00] humanitarian point
[00:11:03] without commenting on the entire discussion about arms
[00:11:06] exports, yes that's a position that
[00:11:10] will be awkward for the authorities, but I think
[00:11:13] that simply when we look at the speed at which events are unfolding,
[00:11:17] I think they will find a way to, let's say, justify and cover themselves both before
[00:11:20] their voters and in the end, I am not sure
[00:11:23] that the voters were so, we are talking about
[00:11:27] the voters of the ruling party, that their, let's say,
[00:11:31] pro-Russian orientation is what predominantly
[00:11:34] defines them when it comes to supporting the ruling party, I think that is
[00:11:37] much uh, that the motivation is still somewhere
[00:11:41] else, it concerns uh some
[00:11:44] standard of living, it concerns expected certain
[00:11:47] benefits uh and however much this entire international
[00:11:50] situation uh was, let's
[00:11:53] say, uh... interesting for
[00:11:56] commenting and people like to talk about it,
[00:12:00] one doesn't live off this, and we talked about the fact that
[00:12:04] support for Russia, that is relations with Russia are not as they were
[00:12:07] before, however Serbia is not joining the foreign
[00:12:11] policy of the European Union, it is at the lowest level of alignment of all
[00:12:15] candidate countries, uh,
[00:12:18] so uh, how then to
[00:12:21] interpret this, Serbia remains principled on this issue that...
[00:12:25] it does not impose sanctions, that it does not join international
[00:12:28] initiatives that condemn Moscow and so
[00:12:31] on, well, there are several, let's
[00:12:34] say, parts of the answer, the first is, let's remember
[00:12:38] the very beginning of the war, uh, so, not
[00:12:41] the conflict, but, so the war in '22
[00:12:44] when Serbia condemned it in the United Nations, so it was
[00:12:48] also under a kind of pressure, it was clearly said, you must condemn it, and
[00:12:52] Serbia then condemned it, there were also several organiz
[00:12:55] organizations, institutions in which it, let's say, sided
[00:12:58] sided with that side, later
[00:13:01] with this never confirmed, is it or that public secret, so
[00:13:05] about the export of ammunition,
[00:13:09] it practically bought, the government bought itself time, it bought in
[00:13:12] a small part international support, enough to
[00:13:15] uh the fact that it does not
[00:13:18] align in every report is stated, it
[00:13:21] is somehow communicated to the Serbian side, uh the Serbian... side
[00:13:25] then points to some other things it has done,
[00:13:28] however, there are countries that, here I am primarily thinking of
[00:13:31] the three Baltic republics, but there are some other countries
[00:13:35] that uh no longer understand
[00:13:39] that position, they view
[00:13:41] the overall, let's say, behavior of Serbia
[00:13:45] in the international arena, uh, and this is now,
[00:13:49] this visit will now somehow
[00:13:52] provide an argument for them, probably. not enough, trust has been
[00:13:56] damaged, uh, we as the ISAC Fund have pointed this out
[00:14:00] many times, uh, but uh, from their
[00:14:03] perspective, where everything is viewed through
[00:14:07] the current war with Russia, perhaps some future war
[00:14:10] with Russia, that is what is most important.
[00:14:14] Uh, when it comes to the European Union, there is now an
[00:14:17] interesting, interesting methodology, let's say, uh,
[00:14:21] of accession to the European Union, this was discussed in
[00:14:24] Tivt. Ukraine was particularly emphasized here,
[00:14:27] which the European Union wants to bring closer to
[00:14:30] itself, what kind of model, behold,
[00:14:34] the President of Serbia also said that it would not be deserved for Ukraine to join
[00:14:37] the European Union before Serbia, what does such
[00:14:41] a model mean for both countries that
[00:14:44] are trying to join the European Union, Ukraine perhaps
[00:14:47] more intensely than Serbia, well, Ukraine has been offered something
[00:14:51] that certainly is not even
[00:14:55] a sufficient replacement for NATO, i.e., NATO membership, but that is
[00:14:59] something that was originally desired, since it is
[00:15:02] clear, again, I say, given the circumstances, NATO
[00:15:05] membership remains unattainable for Ukraine,
[00:15:09] we have, uh, so membership in the European Union, however
[00:15:12] improbable it may seem, uh,
[00:15:15] to me, my colleagues who have been following this issue for years,
[00:15:18] it is possible to find a way
[00:15:21] for Ukraine to join within a
[00:15:25] realistic timeframe, I'm not sure when it comes
[00:15:28] to methodology, it's very difficult to apply a methodology to a country that is in
[00:15:32] open war, uh, but we'll see, as for
[00:15:35] Serbia, I think the situation is clear. "She didn't get cluster
[00:15:39] 3 opened now, a lot was said, putting her in the same basket
[00:15:43] as Ukraine, as Moldova, uh, now seems like
[00:15:47] a reality, but Serbia can change its situation regarding
[00:15:50] EU membership relatively quickly, I don't
[00:15:54] believe it wants to, but it can, with Ukraine things are different,
[00:15:57] its expansion and entry
[00:16:00] of Ukraine and maybe Moldova, probably
[00:16:03] Moldova, is certainly a geopolitical expansion as it is
[00:16:07] said, because the European Union needs to, in quotation marks, close its eastern
[00:16:11] border towards Russia which is seen as a
[00:16:15] problem, as an adversary, as tomorrow
[00:16:20] eastern border is closed mhm uh as for
[00:16:23] Belgrade, it seems that Belgrade would do anything to
[00:16:27] open cluster three which refers to competitiveness,
[00:16:31] education, science uh on the other hand
[00:16:34] we heard MEPs who say how can... there be
[00:16:38] any progress if there is regression in cluster one which refers
[00:16:41] to the rule of law, so do
[00:16:45] you think that Belgrade is now trying to buy
[00:16:47] Brussels, possibly with this visit, convince those
[00:16:51] countries, which are not few, that opposed uh
[00:16:55] uh the opening of the cluster uh for it to still
[00:16:58] happen, which would be a big point for them before
[00:17:01] the elections, uh you are right on one and on the other
[00:17:04] question, the timing is, after all, very very
[00:17:07] indicative, uh, I don't know if, I don't
[00:17:11] know if this will be enough, uh, but the government is doing
[00:17:15] everything to be in a position for that cluster 3
[00:17:18] to be opened in autumn and to say, well, we are still on that
[00:17:21] European integration train, but the implications
[00:17:24] of this visit are, how would I say, uh, also
[00:17:28] a little broader than that, because they indicate, I mean,
[00:17:31] in a way, they signal, well, maybe we
[00:17:35] can take more concrete steps,
[00:17:38] not only when it comes to European integration, but also about what actually
[00:17:42] bothers, I would say, uh, perhaps an even
[00:17:45] larger number of members, that is the question of our strategic
[00:17:48] commitment, mhm, uh, because, let's
[00:17:52] be realistic, the mere benefit of partnership and alliance with
[00:17:55] Russia, and I'm surprised that somewhere, uh,
[00:17:59] citizens who are pro-Russian oriented,
[00:18:01] realize, uh, in this world, as it is
[00:18:05] now, it's getting smaller.
[00:18:07] "Mhm, and it could be even smaller if Nis
[00:18:11] is really sold, well, maybe that's one of
[00:18:14] the reasons why that whole
[00:18:17] sale has been dragging on
[00:18:19] for so long.
[00:18:49] it's unlikely that 12:05 will be the precise time when
[00:18:53] the two presidents will make statements to the media, and they said
[00:18:56] they would answer a few questions. Namely, the meeting
[00:19:00] Teta Tet, between Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelensky and Serbian President
[00:19:04] Aleksandar Vučić, has been going on for an hour now. I remind you, it was
[00:19:07] planned that the conversation would last half an hour, and then the two
[00:19:11] presidents would join their delegations,
[00:19:14] so then a conversation between the two delegations would take place, then
[00:19:18] the signing of a memorandum
[00:19:20] of understanding concerning the food safety protocol
[00:19:24] should follow, and then the two presidents would give statements
[00:19:28] to the media, however it seems that things are moving and that
[00:19:31] the meeting between Volodimir Zelensky and Aleksandar
[00:19:34] Vučić is ongoing, well, at this moment it's already
[00:19:38] an hour, what could that mean, so,
[00:19:41] why is the meeting lasting longer, it's hard to say and
[00:19:45] it's really ungrateful to speculate about what they are
[00:19:49] discussing at this moment for an hour instead of the planned half
[00:19:52] an hour. Dušan, Aleksandra, on social
[00:19:56] networks uh, Michael Martens, whom you mentioned
[00:19:59] earlier, posted a picture from the entrance to the Palace of Serbia, where he
[00:20:03] said that there was great interest,
[00:20:07] media interest and world media all
[00:20:11] how do you perceive that turnout, journalistic turnout
[00:20:15] at this press conference, which was, let's say,
[00:20:18] hastily organized, it was only announced
[00:20:21] yesterday, of course, the time, we assume for security
[00:20:24] reasons,
[00:20:28] that's right, Dušan, the fact that the schedule was only announced yesterday is nothing
[00:20:31] unusual, let's remember, so this is a wartime president of a country that is at
[00:20:35] war, it often happens that...
[00:20:37] Zelensky's visits are not announced, it's only found out in the morning that he is, for example,
[00:20:41] in Paris or London or some
[00:20:44] other country, so that moment is actually not
[00:20:47] unusual, media interest is huge. "And
[00:20:50] all domestic media and foreign media, there are several
[00:20:54] Ukrainian television crews who follow the activities
[00:20:57] of the Ukrainian president, this interest should not be surprising,
[00:21:01] so we are talking about this being the first time that a Ukrainian president has come
[00:21:04] to Serbia, he was elected president in 2019,
[00:21:08] he is still an absolutely legitimate president,
[00:21:11] considering that Ukraine is in a state of war and its constitution and
[00:21:15] three laws do not allow elections, I mention this because there are groups of
[00:21:19] politicians. "in Serbia who repeat that Russian
[00:21:23] narrative of Zelensky's illegitimacy, so he is a completely legitimate
[00:21:26] president who has not been in this country since he was elected in
[00:21:29] 2019, and his predecessor
[00:21:32] Petro Poroshenko was here only
[00:21:36] once, also the interest is great because of
[00:21:39] the specific position, let's say,
[00:21:42] of Serbia, the way Serbia is perceived, primarily in the Western
[00:21:46] world, we all know that it is perceived
[00:21:50] as one of the last allies or close
[00:21:53] collaborators of Russia in Europe, so
[00:21:57] the interest should absolutely not surprise anyone
[00:22:01] of course what interests everyone the most is what the two
[00:22:04] presidents discussed, why this meeting at
[00:22:08] this moment in August,
[00:22:11] so we know, economic cooperation, energy, possible
[00:22:14] armaments, possible defense,
[00:22:18] Ukrainian sources, that is...
[00:22:20] diplomats told Ukrainian media that this is a way
[00:22:23] to slap the Kremlin and show
[00:22:27] that the Ukrainian president can come to the country and talk
[00:22:31] to the president of a country that is, I say, perceived as
[00:22:35] one of Russia's close allies, as a country
[00:22:38] that has not imposed sanctions on Russia,
[00:22:42] if I'm not mistaken, the entry of cameramen actually means that
[00:22:45] the meeting of expanded delegations has begun, which
[00:22:49] are attended by presidents, Serbian President
[00:22:52] Aleksandar Vučić and Ukrainian
[00:30:54] moments for you and highlight what
[00:30:57] is really important, comment.