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[00:04:00] Today, it says Thaçi and others for KLA crimes, [00:04:03] 81 years in prison. The newspaper Nova [00:04:07] also has it, 81 years. [00:04:10] Let me ask you, after so many years, after everything, [00:04:14] is yesterday's verdict a surprise to you? [00:04:17] Did you expect it? I'm not a lawyer, [00:04:20] but to be honest, [00:04:24] I didn't expect it. It seemed to me, it seems to me now, that [00:04:28] these are quite high sentences. I mean, these 80, how many [00:04:31] years did people get? [00:04:34] Two accused, Thaçi and Veseli, right? [00:04:38] 25 years each. This [00:04:41] is not the end of the proceedings, but it [00:04:44] seems very, very high sentences. We saw [00:04:47] the reaction of Albanians both in The Hague and in [00:04:51] Kosovo. There will probably be some reactions in Albania itself, I think, [00:04:54] but that's exactly what I want to see, what it brought to the [00:04:58] region, because in Kosovo, they say it's [00:05:01] unfair. We saw stones thrown at the government building. [00:05:05] Yesterday, my colleague Tanja Lazarević explained the atmosphere there, [00:05:09] complete mobilization, that there is not a single voice that would [00:05:12] critically re-examine what the KLA did. So, [00:05:16] we have that, and here we have these headlines, so that they were [00:05:20] acquitted for the mass persecution of Serbs, that it was not [00:05:23] a verdict but a farce. So, what is too much there, here is [00:05:26] too little. What did it bring to the region? Uh, those [00:05:29] exaggerations, actually, those drastic attitudes, let me say, [00:05:32] precisely speak about the state of affairs in our [00:05:36] in our in in this reality of ours, as [00:05:40] it is. Serbs in this situation [00:05:43] expect, and want, it doesn't matter, but as many [00:05:47] sentences as possible, considering these people, we are talking about these [00:05:51] four, right, as [00:05:54] accomplished, or proven criminals and so on. And Albanians in [00:05:58] Kosovo, uh, judging by the reaction [00:06:01] of the President of Albania, [00:06:04] mhm, there will be similar reactions [00:06:07] in Albania, they are simply, I think the bewilderment and [00:06:11] shock of the Albanian public, of Albanians, is greater [00:06:14] than that of Serbs. Serbs are silent for understandable [00:06:18] reasons, they don't know what will happen tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and so [00:06:21] on, but they know, they don't know to what extent Albanian [00:06:24] nationalism will certainly be raised, I mean because of that whole [00:06:28] uh, that whole event of the sentencing [00:06:32] of these verdicts. So, uh, what will happen, how it will [00:06:36] happen, we don't know that yet, or rather, because it's a first [00:06:40] instance decision. Yes. The procedure [00:06:43] allows for everything, we have examples from the Hague court and [00:06:46] tribunal, and this is not the Hague court, I think that needs [00:06:50] to be emphasized, people simply know, this is [00:06:53] uh, formally, let me say, but essentially, uh, [00:06:57] a court, or a panel, that are part of the Kosovo judicial [00:07:01] system. Uh, however, they judged according to criteria, [00:07:04] international criteria. I don't know if those are indeed the criteria of the Hague [00:07:08] Tribunal, or I assume Kosovan ones, just to... [00:07:12] It's a specialized panel, a specialized panel [00:07:15] and in this appeals process [00:07:19] we'll see what else is possible, but in various processes, as far as [00:07:22] The Hague is concerned, some of these processes concerned [00:07:26] our, primarily our accused, I mean, accused from Serbia and [00:07:30] so on were drastic in the sense of 27 [00:07:33] years, and then an acquittal. I mean, we still don't know [00:07:37] what will definitively happen with those sentences, but [00:07:41] in terms of atmosphere. "Later, Professor Marko [00:07:45] Milanović will speak to our Danica about [00:07:48] both political and legal aspects, but in terms [00:07:51] of atmosphere, after all these years, after all the verdicts, somehow [00:07:55] this September took us back to the 90s with the burial of Ratko [00:07:58] Mladić. So, that feeling, it's good when [00:08:02] their person is convicted, it's bad when ours is. 30 years [00:08:05] later, that tribunal justice, what has [00:08:08] it achieved? We must know some facts that are conscious here." [00:08:13] No, not suppressing, but hiding, and the facts say [00:08:16] that during two years of war, conflicts in [00:08:19] Kosovo from '99 and '98 [00:08:22] were two years of war, uh, [00:08:26] 13,500 people died, how we want, 13,500 something [00:08:30] people, those something are also people, of those [00:08:33] 13,500 uh almost 11. [00:08:36] 10,800 something people are Albanians, [00:08:39] 2,200 something more. [00:08:51] Roma, or whoever lived there, no longer [00:08:54] lives there. So, those numbers need to be known. So, there was [00:08:58] terrible suffering, terrible crimes, and for those [00:09:01] crimes, uh, it is just and [00:09:05] civilized that one is held accountable. Now, [00:09:08] someone will say, "Oh, but let's see here, there are 11 dead Albanians." [00:09:12] "And there are 2,000 something dead Serbs." That is a wrong [00:09:16] approach. But if the civilized principle is accepted that for [00:09:19] crimes, uh, one must be held accountable, then we have what [00:09:23] is now on the scene, although already more than [00:09:27] 25, almost three decades after [00:09:30] the end of that war by the end of 1999, [00:09:33] but as we know, as we see [00:09:37] in the context of our elections, [00:09:40] absolutely uh... not a glimmer, let me [00:09:44] say, not an end, but the establishment [00:09:48] of normal interpersonal civilized relations [00:09:52] between uh [00:09:54] Serbia and uh Kosovo, [00:09:58] I think that implies, I consider it entirely logical that Kosovo is another [00:10:01] new, new, I mean, independent state, and [00:10:04] the facts show that it is so, we are [00:10:08] somewhere there, now you will end up in a tabloid [00:10:10] or something, but... uh, yes, let's [00:10:14] move on when you said in the context [00:10:17] of our elections, so we entered [00:10:20] the election campaign with the funeral of Ratko [00:10:23] Mladić, but how does it seem to you that the other side, that is, [00:10:27] if the morning shows the day, as they say, what will [00:10:30] this campaign be like? Student cyclists are setting off today [00:10:34] across Serbia, in two directions. What awaits us until [00:10:37] October 25th? [00:10:41] Well, I think that, uh, not even the President [00:10:44] of the country with his staff knows, if that staff even [00:10:48] exists. I mean, do you think it doesn't? Well, I think [00:10:51] the question is whether it exists. I'm really not joking, but what I [00:10:55] hear from various informed [00:10:59] sources, uh, there is, let me say, [00:11:02] disarray, but quite a bit, I mean, in those concentric circles [00:11:06] around the President, but in those staffs and [00:11:10] in that part that takes care of elections and so on, [00:11:14] what I hear is that the President is terribly [00:11:17] dissatisfied with how his, uh, [00:11:20] his members, his, I don't know, supporters, [00:11:24] non-supporters?" "How they react, how they [00:11:27] show themselves, unlike the opposing side, I'm looking from the President's [00:11:30] perspective, where uh, what they are doing, I don't [00:11:34] know if he calls them blockaders or whatever, but it looks like weddings, what [00:11:38] you are doing approximately, by chance, [00:11:41] I quote the President, he says everything looks like a funeral, quite [00:11:45] an interesting context. I'm not claiming that it's 100% true, [00:11:49] but when we look at some parallel events, like, for [00:11:52] example, this statement from two days ago, from the 200- [00:11:56] page high public prosecutor, it simply [00:11:59] looks completely astonishing and [00:12:02] terrifying. I think, I think we will, upon [00:12:05] the introduction, well, I can't say of a legal order, but [00:12:09] of the rule of law in this country of ours, as [00:12:12] it is, we will have various uh topics [00:12:16] in terms of, I mean, is it possible that this was [00:12:19] the prosecution, that these people were doing their job? I mean, these Marković [00:12:23] and others who were saying to us, who are talking about what, [00:12:27] and you put it in the context of the election campaign, that it's because they [00:12:30] came out, I have no doubt, with what Aleksandar Vučić [00:12:33] demanded, that now you have to do this, that, they come out with [00:12:37] something that is both so extensive and so [00:12:41] senseless. There was no sonic cannon, and whoever [00:12:44] mentions it, I mean, if you mention it, you are subject to, I [00:12:48] don't know, what kind of responsibilities with some extremely [00:12:52] interesting, but quite insane explanations [00:12:55] for why more than [00:12:58] a few, 2-3 people, sought medical help [00:13:01] after those 19 hours and 11 minutes [00:13:05] of last year's March 15th, uh, during [00:13:09] those largest demonstrations that were held in [00:13:12] Belgrade after the use of the sonic [00:13:16] cannon. We have, on the one hand, what you put in the context [00:13:19] of the election campaign, the higher public prosecutor's message that everyone [00:13:23] will be prosecuted. [00:13:25] But besides that, is the fact that the SNS [00:13:29] submitted a list with 200,000 signatures, the first one, [00:13:33] but this time, even before, excuse me, even before [00:13:36] the collection of signatures began, that [00:13:39] requires a separate topic, but the fact that it did not [00:13:43] come out as a coalition, it absorbed all [00:13:46] parties into itself and came out as a party. What [00:13:49] does that tell you? Does it speak of nervousness and fear, or does it speak [00:13:53] of... based on the principle, uh, [00:13:57] "the state, that's me," a well-known principle, not to mention [00:14:00] whose and so on, but from that principle, the president [00:14:03] escalated [00:14:06] to, uh, a party whose president I am not, but I am, I don't know [00:14:09] what kind of member, I am also me. Therefore, those of you who [00:14:12] will be in a coalition, you will be subsequently informed depending [00:14:15] on how many votes you got, whether you crossed [00:14:18] the census or not. But such behavior, I'm waiting for this, we [00:14:22] don't see anywhere the truck with which he should do something... to go around Serbia and [00:14:26] say something new to the citizens of Serbia, and so on. I see these other [00:14:29] manifestations, really, as for the beginning of the [00:14:33] campaign, the campaign of election participants, but I don't [00:14:36] see, I don't see anywhere actually those [00:14:39] demonstrators uh of the ruling party [00:14:42] and their list holder. We [00:14:46] have 25 also, [00:14:49] what does it mean? It means that he is dissatisfied [00:14:52] with, I guess, that organization of preparations. [00:14:55] performance, uh, Vučić himself gives some ideas [00:14:59] what and how to do, and then we will only see how it looks [00:15:02] and what else we will have to endure, both from [00:15:05] trucks and, I don't know, uh, from various [00:15:09] other means of transport, including bicycles, and if we [00:15:12] look through the press, we see that [00:15:15] uh Dragan Mirić, he called on the entire opposition to [00:15:19] support the student list. A good part of it, and [00:15:22] Branko Ružić says it is possible that they will participate in [00:15:25] the elections, but mhm, no, he does [00:15:29] not explain how, but do you have understanding for this, for [00:15:32] pro-European parties that are running in the elections? Dragan Đilas says [00:15:36] in Nova, he says that the goal is to be bigger than [00:15:39] the SPS and at that moment after the elections to help [00:15:43] students form [00:15:46] a majority. I am one of those who [00:15:50] is thrilled, really thrilled with so many [00:15:54] many uh moves, uh, [00:15:57] lucidity and courage of our students, [00:16:00] and I am one, if it's not immodest to say, I am [00:16:03] one of the open critics of their various. [00:16:16] is one of the biggest mistakes that students have made so far. I will not talk [00:16:19] about that anymore because I don't want to talk about the mistakes of students, because that [00:16:23] attitude towards the opposition, towards opposition parties, and [00:16:26] so on, by the way, I am not in any [00:16:30] party, but uh, for me, [00:16:33] the relationship is unacceptable when it comes to the sonic parade, that you say to the [00:16:37] opposition, "you showed what you have, you have nothing," and so on. That is not [00:16:41] good, that is not, not even [00:16:45] uh, it is not acceptable. For these [00:16:48] reasons and so on, I will, after this conversation of ours and [00:16:51] everything else, among other things, go to give my signature for [00:16:54] this signature collection for registering the list of precisely [00:16:58] this coalition that you mentioned, uh, for European [00:17:01] Serbia, right? Uh, yes, because I consider it, for [00:17:05] very practical, concrete reasons, firstly... I [00:17:07] have generally, most of my life I have been [00:17:11] against uh all all and against those some [00:17:14] whatever their ideas, but in essence totalitarian [00:17:18] commitments. I don't think that totalitarianism [00:17:21] is committing to students, by no means, but [00:17:24] to deny uh a priori the right of anyone [00:17:28] else to participate as they see fit, I am against that [00:17:31] energetically. For these reasons, I think it is not only from [00:17:35] principled reasons, I will support this coalition. But I think [00:17:38] we can come, I hope some of the students, especially those I [00:17:42] am in contact with, hear me now. One can get into [00:17:45] a dangerous situation, because this one I was talking about, who was not [00:17:49] satisfied and so on, I have no doubt that his teams and [00:17:52] his advisors and all those who work [00:17:56] on those elections according to his criteria do [00:18:00] not perform various actions that will lead to, I don't know, what [00:18:03] kind of results, and then with those results it is possible that... [00:18:07] "There is no doubt, I am for changing that regime, [00:18:11] I mean, and so on, it can be missing one, [00:18:15] two, three percent, then it will be a bit late and [00:18:18] a bit, well, stupid, as it repeats in our regions, to [00:18:22] regret after certain activities, let me [00:18:25] say nothing else. Well, there are still questions that I will not ask you, but after [00:18:29] you comes uh Zdravko Pološ, Mr. Zdravko, so I will [00:18:32] continue that topic with him, but..." Uh, [00:18:36] an interesting moment happened. After [00:18:39] 15 years that he hadn't had that challenge for a TV [00:18:43] debate, the president wants to have [00:18:46] a debate with the list [00:18:48] leader. He says, I mean, I think [00:18:52] he says, uh, he said that in a very, uh, [00:18:55] stylistically, completely inclusive way, as far as [00:18:58] the complete student campaign and so on are concerned. [00:19:01] Mhm. Roughly, you are not authorized to be in a dialogue [00:19:05] with us, in a dialogue with me, but... "Here, Andrej Vanji [00:19:09] thought about that topic and he suggests, so [00:19:12] I want to ask you, he suggests that [00:19:16] Professor Stadranović accept, but under certain conditions, starting from [00:19:19] Vučić's resignation, so that they have limited [00:19:23] time, then time for rebuttal, then to the fact that there are two [00:19:26] moderators, one for each [00:19:29] speaker's choice, asking [00:19:32] questions, because that's how it is, right, two moderators, but [00:19:35] it raises the question of whether..." would, would Vučić agree [00:19:39] to a dialogue on equal terms? What [00:19:43] do you think, is that a question or a rhetorical question? I know [00:19:46] a little, still for a few more days, the President of Serbia, [00:19:49] already from the 27th, he will only be a citizen [00:19:53] who is in the race for the best possible placement of his uh [00:19:57] coalition, if it is a coalition, and for, I mean, [00:20:01] winning the prime minister's position, right? But [00:20:04] really, not even the closest circle of [00:20:08] Aleksandar Vučić probably doesn't know, if you were [00:20:11] to ask them, if we were to ask them how he would behave, how Vučić [00:20:15] would behave in such a situation, [00:20:17] uh, I don't know, we know, I mean, [00:20:20] that who knows that the stylistic peculiarity [00:20:24] of Aleksandar Vučić is to say one thing today, another in two or three [00:20:27] days. Do you think, let me be mild, that he tells [00:20:31] untruths, or that what he says are not truths? [00:20:35] Then when it's so obvious, he then finds some explanation, like [00:20:38] the other day he said that Thaçi would be, he would get something [00:20:42] tralala, roughly because of obstructing the court, I mean, Thaçi [00:20:46] got 25 years. Whatever that means, we know [00:20:50] what that actually can mean. After that, he says, [00:20:53] he further relativizes and says, yes, but it's legally binding, [00:20:56] not legally binding, but again Serbs will be to blame, Serbs are always to [00:21:00] blame. That Chimera syndrome which has passed [00:21:03] until now, I hope it will no longer pass [00:21:07] in this situation, this campaign of ours for the elections, and [00:21:10] I, I liked that position of uh Dr. [00:21:13] Milija Zrdanović. Indeed, we [00:21:17] have nothing to talk about. You had, you have so much that if [00:21:21] you had something to talk about, you should be polite. And it is really [00:21:24] impolite to prevent, to forbid all other [00:21:28] political, non-political experts in this country from appearing [00:21:32] on what are state televisions, [00:21:35] that is, under the personal and state control [00:21:38] of Aleksandar Vučić, and that is the situation. [00:21:41] That is the situation. We stop here. Thank you for being [00:21:45] a guest on the new day, a guest on the press review was journalist Rade [00:21:48] Radovanović. You stay with us. [00:21:57] And we talked about it just now, students have announced a big cycling tour [00:22:01] all over Serbia, it will last 10 days and during it [00:22:05] two groups of cyclists will visit cities from [00:22:08] Subotica to Vranje. One group starts from Republic Square, our [00:22:11] Tamara Ogjanović is there and Tamara, how are these [00:22:15] two tours conceived? [00:22:18] Someone told me that... [00:22:20] Well, we will check that with the students who organized [00:22:24] this cycling tour, who are some of the participants. Let's just say [00:22:28] that this tour starts from Republic Square. At [00:22:32] this moment, cyclists are still gathering. As they [00:22:36] told us, the start of the ride will be a bit late compared to the announced time [00:22:39] of 9 o'clock, since they are still waiting for the rest of the participants [00:22:43] to join this bike tour. I am talking to [00:22:47] Laura Živić and Mihajlo Jovanović. Thank you for your time. You took out [00:22:50] for 1:1 before the start of this bike tour. So [00:22:54] let's start by explaining why you decided specifically [00:22:57] on a cycling tour. We know that this tour to [00:23:01] Strasbourg was extremely popular, it was covered by the media, it was [00:23:05] very popular on social networks, you also had other cycling tours [00:23:08] in Serbia, uh, [00:23:11] but why did you decide on this action now? [00:23:14] That's right, yes, the tour to Strasbourg was very well [00:23:18] covered by the media, but today we will not... [00:23:20] focus on it, today the focus is on this tour, why did we decide [00:23:24] on a cycling tour, not maybe a walking tour, [00:23:27] this is because for logistical reasons [00:23:31] we move fastest, we have the opportunity through these 10 [00:23:35] days that we will be going, to pass through almost all places [00:23:38] in Serbia to cover as much of this [00:23:42] area as possible, so that as many citizens [00:23:45] as possible hear about us, but not only hear, but see us, so that they can [00:23:49] greet us. with us to gain [00:23:52] hope in the sense that they see that we really exist, that we [00:23:56] are not just some kids from Instagram, some kids [00:24:00] from television and so on, but we are really people [00:24:03] here, students who are ready to make changes in this [00:24:06] country. And when we talk about the route, which cities [00:24:10] will you be visiting? We said you are going in two directions, north and [00:24:13] south of Serbia. Do you want to tell us more about that? That's right, so we have [00:24:17] two different uh cycling tours, as Mihajlo [00:24:21] said, to cover as large a region [00:24:24] of Serbia as possible. One tour goes through western and southern Serbia, while [00:24:28] the other tour goes through Vojvodina and Mačva. I [00:24:31] specifically drive that tour through Vojvodina and Mačva, so I can tell you the places we [00:24:35] pass through: Vršac, Zrenjanin, Kikinda, Subotica, [00:24:38] Sombor, Novi Sad, Šabac, Loznica, Lazarevac, and finally [00:24:42] Kragujevac, where we symbolically meet with the other group, [00:24:46] that is, with the southern tour. Why Kragujevac? Because that is where [00:24:50] the first Serbian constitution was adopted. As guardians of the constitution, as [00:24:54] this cycling tour itself is called, we felt that [00:24:57] that is the best place for that symbolic [00:25:00] big gathering, because, as in every [00:25:04] uh legal state, the constitution [00:25:07] should be respected and all citizens should be enabled to truly [00:25:10] have some basic and elementary rights which, unfortunately, are constantly [00:25:14] violated under this government. We believe the constitution [00:25:18] should really be something that... [00:25:20] uh, what is written in it should be made available to all citizens of that [00:25:23] state. So, the tour is called the Guardians of the Constitution, and [00:25:27] you will carry with you three copies of the constitution. [00:25:30] Why three? Well, because we are number three, that is, the student list [00:25:34] is number three. So we will symbolically have three constitutions which [00:25:38] will be presented today and then will be [00:25:41] handed over in Kragujevac at the end of the tours [00:25:45] themselves. So, that's why it's number three. Today it will be presented [00:25:48] to the participants. Yes, it will be presented, I didn't say it well, to the participants [00:25:52] of the tour who will carry those constitutions with them for the next 10 days and [00:25:56] finally it will be symbolically handed over in Kragujevac. [00:26:00] Mihajlo, to whom is this? message? Uh, with [00:26:03] the Constitution addressed to all citizens, the essence is [00:26:07] that the Constitution, which has been constantly violated until now, [00:26:11] will go through all of Serbia, everyone will have the opportunity to [00:26:15] see that Constitution, for the Constitution to reach their [00:26:18] places, and then [00:26:21] finally reach the place where that first Constitution [00:26:25] was made. How else did you envision this tour, that is, what [00:26:29] activities will you have at certain points where you will be staying? [00:26:32] Did you foresee talks with citizens and any other [00:26:35] actions? Of course, it is certainly planned that in [00:26:38] a [00:26:40] large number of places we stop, to talk to [00:26:44] citizens, precisely for the reason, as I said earlier, so that citizens would have [00:26:48] the opportunity to really see us again, we are not just some people who [00:26:52] ran through, that is, drove through, this, but [00:26:55] that we are really someone who stopped, someone who talked to them, [00:26:59] then we continue to do [00:27:02] the same. In the next place, in the next, and in the next, and in the next, until we [00:27:05] go through our entire country. And Laura, let's [00:27:09] just clarify, so, uh, [00:27:12] how many participants are expected today and how will this [00:27:15] tour function in the coming days? Well, [00:27:18] in terms of participants, people will join in certain cities, not everyone starts from here today, right? [00:27:22] That's right, just as you said, considering that the tour lasts 10 days, [00:27:26] we have two tours, so there will not be a constant [00:27:29] number of participants every day. Many [00:27:33] citizens will join us along the way, but approximately [00:27:36] the estimated number of people we expect is about 250 people. [00:27:40] Uh, so we will see in the coming days, that number will probably increase even more [00:27:44] when other students and other citizens join, but we [00:27:47] hope there will be as many of us as possible in Kragujevac. We invite all [00:27:51] citizens to come to that big gathering on the 26th [00:27:53] in Kragujevac. You were participants in cycling tours [00:27:56] before, you went to Strasbourg, we see your jersey, you [00:28:00] went through Vojvodina, right? [00:28:02] What do you expect from this [00:28:05] ten-day important [00:28:08] bike tour? Well, first and foremost, we expect a lot of good [00:28:12] energy, we expect a lot, [00:28:14] a lot of energy that will, uh, [00:28:17] prevail both within us, within the group that will be riding, and among [00:28:21] the citizens who will welcome us, who will prepare [00:28:24] to welcome us, to pass [00:28:28] by us, yes, [00:28:30] we also expect that once again, before a very important date, that is, [00:28:34] before October 25th, we will show all of Serbia [00:28:37] that change is coming, that indeed [00:28:41] with joint forces we can fight for a fairer and better [00:28:44] country. Thank you very much for speaking [00:28:48] to N1, have a safe trip. So, students are leaving [00:28:51] today from the center of Belgrade for this cycling tour which will last [00:28:55] 10 days, to two sides of Serbia, and will finally [00:28:59] meet in Kragujevac. 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