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[00:00:08] 1400%, and
[00:00:26] Another winter is at the door. The prices of oil,
[00:00:29] gas, fuel on the world market, and then everything
[00:00:32] else are on an upward trend. Refineries are in flames in Russia and the
[00:00:36] Middle East, then various bans on the export of diesel and other
[00:00:39] energy sources, then agreements on the release of reserves
[00:00:42] or the sale of fuel, then further blocked Strait of Hormuz. All
[00:00:46] this has led to a prolonged energy crisis and the need for
[00:00:50] adaptation measures. Can the
[00:00:53] measures planned by the United States and Europe reduce the
[00:00:57] price of fuel, for example? How much... is actually the economic
[00:01:01] and political price of energy instability
[00:01:05] caused by political decisions? How is
[00:01:08] Europe dealing with the rising energy prices, and what awaits
[00:01:12] Serbia and why? You are watching Global Focus. I am
[00:01:15] Aleksandra
[00:01:16] Gotfrua.
[00:01:21] The price of Brent crude oil on the world market this Monday,
[00:01:25] October 12, is trading at 106 dollars,
[00:01:29] and that's for December contracts. What led to this?
[00:01:32] This is a small and short overview of very
[00:01:35] recent global events, events of the last three
[00:01:39] days that affected the price of oil.
[00:01:43] Is there any energy truce between Russia and Ukraine? US President
[00:01:47] Donald Trump claims that it was all
[00:01:50] only them. The last elections, especially in agreed that Ukraine must immediately stop shelling Russian
[00:01:52] refineries, claiming that Ukraine
[00:01:56] is generating the primary rise in fuel prices on the world and even American market.
[00:02:01] And I told him, do whatever you want, but don't shell refineries.
[00:02:04] There are plenty of targets, don't shell refineries. But he went and
[00:02:08] shelled them, and he must not affect our farmers and
[00:02:11] ranchers like that. He must not affect the rest of the world like that. He better
[00:02:15] stop. Ukraine, which, as Zelenskiy
[00:02:19] claims, learned about the energy truce agreement with Russia
[00:02:23] from Trump's announcement, says that it will respect it if Russia
[00:02:26] stops shelling its power plants.
[00:02:30] And immediately after the announcement, Russia deliberately shelled the power plant in
[00:02:34] Kharkiv, further damaging our energy system. It is clear that
[00:02:38] Putin does not read Trud
[00:02:39] Social.
[00:02:42] Contacts are ongoing, as soon as we have anything on that matter,
[00:02:46] you will be informed. Trump's announcement about an energy truce
[00:02:49] that does not exist, followed the agreement between Moscow and
[00:02:52] Washington. And by the way, Russia has agreed to
[00:02:56] send us millions and millions of barrels of its diesel oil.
[00:03:00] That's what we need, thank you.
[00:03:04] In order to be able to export its diesel, which is already in short supply, Russia temporarily
[00:03:08] lifted its own ban, but the news in Russia looked
[00:03:11] different.
[00:03:13] News that just arrived. The US has temporarily exempted Russian diesel
[00:03:17] for the global market from US sanctions. The document is dated
[00:03:21] October 9, 2026, and is valid until April 7,
[00:03:25] 2027.
[00:03:28] And the temporary drop in oil prices on the world market that same day
[00:03:31] was also influenced by Trump's statement that he would not attack Iran before the elections in
[00:03:35] November, but that was short-lived. In the Middle East,
[00:03:38] a war is underway in Yemen between government forces and rebel Houthis.
[00:03:42] Yemeni Houthis have been attacking Saudi Arabia since July of this year.
[00:03:46] In the latest wave, several airports, a gas plant, and a
[00:03:49] refinery were targeted. And so, the world price of oil, gas,
[00:03:52] and then fuel, is affected by the unresolved Iranian war,
[00:03:56] the constant threat of new instability in the region that produces
[00:04:00] 1/3 of the world's
[00:04:01] oil.
[00:04:05] So, what is the energy situation in Europe
[00:04:08] and the European Union, which Serbia declaratively strives for? On video
[00:04:12] call is Dr. Janez Kopač,
[00:04:15] who was the director of the Energy Community Secretariat,
[00:04:19] Minister of Environment and Energy in Slovenia. He is certainly one of
[00:04:22] the internationally renowned and recognized experts in energy
[00:04:25] policy. Mr. Kopač, thank you for speaking to
[00:04:29] N1. "What are the effects of the war in the
[00:04:32] Middle East and the conflicts related to it on energy
[00:04:36] prices in the countries of the European Union? Can a further
[00:04:39] increase be expected? What are your expectations for this
[00:04:42] winter? Good
[00:04:44] evening, everyone. The impact
[00:04:48] of all that you mentioned is significant,
[00:04:52] primarily on the price of gas
[00:04:53] protect consumers, that and oil. From February to August of this year, prices
[00:04:57] increased by about 90%.
[00:05:00] But the price of electricity increased
[00:05:03] by only about 23%. That's a lot, but
[00:05:07] still much less than in 2022, when
[00:05:10] Russia attacked Ukraine. Then, you may remember,
[00:05:14] prices increased for gas prices
[00:05:17] by 14 times, meaning
[00:05:21] electricity prices by 600%.
[00:05:24] Today's price increase is serious, but the European
[00:05:28] system is much more resilient today than it was then
[00:05:30] and
[00:05:33] uh, primarily there are many more renewable energy
[00:05:36] sources. We're talking about electricity.
[00:05:39] The import of oil and gas is much
[00:05:43] more diversified than it was in 2022.
[00:05:47] For winter, I expect volatile prices,
[00:05:50] meaning up and down. New jumps
[00:05:53] are possible, but there won't be a crisis like in
[00:05:57] 2022.
[00:05:59] Uh, for gas prices, a lot depends on the temperature.
[00:06:03] Storage in Europe is currently only 70% full
[00:06:06] on average. That's much less than in previous
[00:06:10] years when they were 10%
[00:06:13] full. If the winter is harsh, then there will be
[00:06:17] significant jumps, I'm talking about gas. If it's
[00:06:20] mild, we'll get through it with where we are approximately now.
[00:06:24] And does the fact that Ukraine is shelling Russian
[00:06:27] refineries have an impact, as US President Donald Trump claims? He
[00:06:31] cites it as the main, main reason why fuel prices
[00:06:35] have risen, and how do you evaluate this agreement between the US and
[00:06:38] Russia for Russia to release certain
[00:06:40] quantities of diesel and sell it to America and
[00:06:44] others? First of all, it's a
[00:06:48] pre-election let's say
[00:06:52] balloon, Russia doesn't have diesel to
[00:06:55] export currently, or it only has some small
[00:06:59] quantities. What's in that agreement between Trump and
[00:07:03] Putin, 300,000 tons
[00:07:05] in October, that's
[00:07:09] for maybe two or three days of consumption in the US
[00:07:12] states and doesn't have much impact on their
[00:07:15] market. Uh, otherwise, that
[00:07:19] shelling of Russian refineries by Ukraine has
[00:07:22] an impact, but much, much smaller than the impact of
[00:07:26] the American attack on Iran
[00:07:29] and everything that is happening there. Russia used to be a big exporter
[00:07:32] of gasoline and diesel, but it itself
[00:07:36] banned exports because it doesn't have enough due to those
[00:07:39] attacks. The European Union imports
[00:07:42] gasoline and diesel from Russia for some time now, but the prices
[00:07:46] are global, so the shortage in markets is reflected,
[00:07:50] reflected everywhere. When Russian
[00:07:53] and Arab oil, i.e. derivatives, disappear from the market, then consumers
[00:07:57] worldwide compete for the remaining
[00:08:00] quantities, so the price also increases in Europe and in the
[00:08:03] United States, even though they
[00:08:06] are exporters. Uh, that hurts
[00:08:10] the American president.
[00:08:12] Uh, primarily because uh,
[00:08:16] because there are elections there in two weeks,
[00:08:20] but we, or rather Americans, pay for it with money,
[00:08:23] unfortunately, Ukrainians have to pay with blood. Mm-hmm.
[00:08:27] You say it affects everyone, however, those economic effects of global
[00:08:30] events such as this war in Ukraine, the war in the Middle East, so
[00:08:34] the general shortage of energy sources,
[00:08:37] uh, are not the same for
[00:08:41] everyone. Some countries are, it seems, more resilient, so the rise in prices
[00:08:44] there is, let's say,
[00:08:45] more controlled. How is that
[00:08:48] explained? Countries have completely different energy systems. Some
[00:08:52] depend more on gas, some on imports. Others have
[00:08:55] hydropower, nuclear power plants, a lot of sun and
[00:08:58] wind, or developed storage
[00:09:01] systems. Let me give an example from the region.
[00:09:05] Bulgaria, for example, has installed an incredible 5.5
[00:09:08] GW of batteries in the past two years.
[00:09:13] They are now the European champions in that. Before that,
[00:09:17] their electricity prices were
[00:09:20] 21% above the European
[00:09:23] average. Today, they are only
[00:09:27] 9%. Flexibility helps
[00:09:31] so much in resilience, but of course, you have to invest in
[00:09:34] it. Another case, Finland, which currently has
[00:09:38] the lowest electricity prices in Europe, achieved this
[00:09:42] thanks to a good combination of hydropower,
[00:09:45] nuclear energy, wind, and flexible consumption and
[00:09:48] so on. It can vary from country to country. Uh,
[00:09:51] of course, as far as gas
[00:09:55] and oil are concerned, we are all dependent on
[00:09:58] imports. Nothing helps there. But if
[00:10:01] more consumption shifts to electricity and
[00:10:05] the consumption of oil and oil
[00:10:07] derivatives decreases, then of course the country is
[00:10:11] more resilient. Mm-hmm. And how do you assess the situation in the Balkans? You mentioned
[00:10:14] Bulgaria, and other countries, here, in terms of energy
[00:10:18] stability.
[00:10:21] The Balkans are more resilient today than a few years ago, but
[00:10:25] they are still vulnerable. We have great potential
[00:10:28] for hydropower, sun, wind, but we are lagging behind in grids, in
[00:10:32] storage, in system flexibility,
[00:10:35] and
[00:10:38] we need to, of course, invest in grids,
[00:10:41] cross-border interconnections, in batteries, smart meters,
[00:10:44] in flexible consumption and so on.
[00:10:48] Of course, we need to adopt unpleasant
[00:10:51] reforms, because someone has to pay for it all.
[00:10:55] Uh, for example, reforms of distribution tariffs, reforms related to
[00:10:59] market liberalization and so on. In
[00:11:02] short, reforms that politicians,
[00:11:06] if possible, constantly postpone, because they are
[00:11:10] unpopular, but some of them are
[00:11:13] very significant for protection against the next
[00:11:17] geopolitical shock, which will surely
[00:11:20] come again, because we see
[00:11:23] how the world has gone crazy.
[00:11:26] Tell me, in this crazy world, you say that politicians
[00:11:29] postpone, delay reforms that are
[00:11:33] unpopular but necessary so that the next shocks
[00:11:37] do not have such effects. And how does
[00:11:40] this energy crisis then affect the political
[00:11:44] behavior of the inhabitants of the European Union, because I suppose
[00:11:47] they don't postpone them for nothing, so to
[00:11:51] speak.
[00:11:54] First of all, all governments want to reduce
[00:11:57] the impact
[00:11:59] of that big increase, so they spend a lot of
[00:12:03] budget money on
[00:12:06] various subsidies and so on.
[00:12:09] Of course,
[00:12:12] the direct impact is that populism is even
[00:12:16] more popular, but that
[00:12:18] is not
[00:12:21] a solution in the long run. In the
[00:12:25] long run, the good solution
[00:12:29] is simply to rely more on your
[00:12:32] own strength, uh, meaning to be
[00:12:36] more independent, uh, and
[00:12:39] uh, of course, we are in a world
[00:12:42] of electrification, so I expect that
[00:12:46] more and more energy consumption will shift to
[00:12:49] electricity, and that will reduce
[00:12:52] the impact of oil and gas, and that would
[00:12:56] be a longer-term strategy for the European Union.
[00:12:59] So, alternative energy sources. There is this
[00:13:03] situation with diesel, that Trump first said he would
[00:13:07] ban diesel exports, actually he pressured
[00:13:10] the member states of the European Union to
[00:13:14] release their strategic reserves. If and
[00:13:18] when that happens, what are the quantities that would actually be needed to
[00:13:21] significantly reduce the price
[00:13:25] of diesel, so that the consumer in Europe could
[00:13:28] feel it?
[00:13:32] The European Union, or rather the member states
[00:13:34] that coordinate oil
[00:13:38] reserves within the International Energy Agency,
[00:13:42] have agreed uh uh
[00:13:46] to uh release
[00:13:49] about 100 million
[00:13:52] tons of diesel, or other
[00:13:56] derivatives, and that is a quantity that
[00:13:59] can stabilize the market somewhat, but
[00:14:03] that will only last for
[00:14:07] a few weeks, maybe. When that
[00:14:09] is consumed, and if all these crises do not subside,
[00:14:13] primarily in the Arabian Peninsula, i.e. in
[00:14:17] Iran, uh,
[00:14:20] we will still be in a very difficult situation.
[00:14:24] Mr. Kopač, thank you very much for speaking to
[00:14:27] N1. Thank you for the invitation
[00:14:31] and good, good evening. Thank
[00:14:33] you. We will now take a short break, and then we will hear about the situation in the largest economy
[00:14:37] of the European Union, in Germany.
[00:14:40] I was reading the other day
[00:14:45] that Novi Sad will soon have almost 500
[00:14:48] open construction sites.
[00:14:51] Novi Sad, in that "Yugoslavia", had
[00:14:55] the unofficial, perhaps even official name that it was a city
[00:14:59] made for people.
[00:15:01] For whom is Novi Sad made today?
[00:15:15] You have to fight with urban planners to explain to them why
[00:15:18] greenery is
[00:15:20] important.
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[00:16:25] You are watching Global Focus. The largest economy in the European Union, Germany, is experiencing one of
[00:16:29] the biggest effects of geopolitical events, one of the biggest inflations in
[00:16:32] the energy sector. About how this affects
[00:16:36] Germans, I'm talking to Deutsche Welle journalist Srećko
[00:16:40] Matić. Srećko, thank you very much for being with us tonight. So,
[00:16:44] Germany is at the top of the EU countries in terms of energy price increases.
[00:16:48] How is this explained in Germany? What are the causes of price
[00:16:51] increases?
[00:16:53] Well, one of the main causes of price increases is, of course, geopolitical
[00:16:57] turbulence, wars, and crises that practically
[00:17:00] follow one another in recent months and years, but that is
[00:17:04] only one of the reasons. Many say that the war in Ukraine is to blame.
[00:17:08] Others say that the war against Iran, or rather
[00:17:11] the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, is to blame, but a big role in all
[00:17:15] this is also played by the state, i.e., state
[00:17:17] regulation. Let me briefly explain this with two examples
[00:17:21] that are close to each of us as consumers, as citizens.
[00:17:25] These are electricity prices on one hand, and on the other hand, fuel prices, i.e.,
[00:17:28] gasoline and diesel. When it comes to electricity price formation, it is practically
[00:17:32] the highest in Germany, maybe a little lower in Ireland,
[00:17:36] on average in recent months. 37 to 40 cents. How is it
[00:17:39] formed? Distribution is approximately 30%,
[00:17:43] taxes and duties to the state are 30 to 35%, the
[00:17:46] rest is the profit of the one who sells, but the German
[00:17:50] peculiarity in all this is the way that price is actually
[00:17:53] formed, why it is high in Germany and lower elsewhere.
[00:17:56] This is the merit order principle, which is specific to
[00:18:00] Germany. This means that in Germany, the price of electricity on the exchange is determined by the price
[00:18:03] of electricity from the most expensive power plant in which a kilowatt of electricity
[00:18:07] is produced that day. Due to the war in Ukraine,
[00:18:10] i.e., the lack of cheaper Russian
[00:18:13] gas, when it was necessary, when there was no sun, when there was no wind, when
[00:18:17] there were no renewable sources, it was necessary to use those expensive
[00:18:21] power plants that use gas, so the
[00:18:24] electricity was, of course, quite expensive. As for diesel and gasoline,
[00:18:27] the state earns the most from taxes,
[00:18:30] uh, CO2 emissions, and various
[00:18:33] other duties, and the situation on the market is not overly
[00:18:37] transparent, observers say. It is much simpler, much
[00:18:40] better done, for example, in neighboring Luxembourg, where there is state
[00:18:44] regulation and price limits, maximum prices for diesel and
[00:18:47] gasoline, and there, of course, the price of fuel is lower than in Germany.
[00:18:51] And how do citizens react to this, how does all this affect the daily life
[00:18:54] of citizens? I see that you are standing in front of a gas station, for
[00:18:58] example. Yes, and I had to move away a little,
[00:19:01] Aleksandra, because the situation has been quite tense in recent months. It's even difficult to
[00:19:05] get permission to stand in the area of the gas station
[00:19:08] itself and talk to people and film, so I had to move away a little,
[00:19:12] but I hope you can see the price. So, currently, diesel costs
[00:19:15] 2.24 euros, super 95,
[00:19:18] 2.20 euros. So, quite expensive. What does that
[00:19:22] mean for citizens, for consumers? Higher living costs, they drive
[00:19:26] less, they drive slower, say observers of the
[00:19:30] traffic situation. They are increasingly switching to public transport, using
[00:19:33] the so-called "joychant ticket," 63 euros per month for
[00:19:36] using practically all transport in the entire
[00:19:39] country. They are tightening their belts, as the people would say. So, luxury
[00:19:43] food, drinks, going to restaurants, all that is reduced to a
[00:19:46] minimum. And an interesting effect is, in addition to all that,
[00:19:49] Aleksandra, when it gets dark for someone, it gets light for someone else.
[00:19:53] Due to these high fossil fuel prices, in September,
[00:19:56] the sale of electric cars in Germany increased sharply.
[00:19:59] It practically doubled compared to
[00:20:03] September last year. In September of this year, every
[00:20:06] third newly registered vehicle in Germany was actually
[00:20:10] an electric vehicle. There are consequences, of course, in the economy,
[00:20:13] existential problems for freight forwarders, problems in
[00:20:17] agriculture, in food production, and all of this, of course, consequently
[00:20:20] affects the price we pay in supermarkets when
[00:20:24] we want to buy, of course, food items. Are
[00:20:27] any measures being taken to
[00:20:31] industry, those freight forwarders? What steps is Germany taking
[00:20:34] to contribute to reducing the price of
[00:20:38] diesel in general?
[00:20:41] Well, some measures are being taken, some are planned,
[00:20:45] One of the measures from the category of somewhat slapstick, which actually
[00:20:48] proves how complicated this German bureaucracy was, was the idea to
[00:20:52] help citizens directly with money, those who are
[00:20:56] most burdened by the prices, high energy prices,
[00:20:59] especially fuel prices. For example, those who have lower salaries get 100 euros, those with
[00:21:03] average salaries get 50, those who earn a little better get zero euros. However, the problem is
[00:21:06] that the state does not have the bank account numbers of its citizens.
[00:21:10] It knows only about one in five well enough to be able to directly
[00:21:14] transfer money to their account. But the government is under pressure, of course, from major
[00:21:18] political turbulence and changes on the domestic political scene,
[00:21:21] pressure on the federal government, and has decided to finally do something. From October 1st until the end of
[00:21:25] this year, the government has decided to introduce
[00:21:29] a lower tax rate on energy sources, what in Serbia, it seems to me,
[00:21:33] is called excise duties. Uh, that means that consequently
[00:21:36] the price of fuel per liter will be 17
[00:21:40] cents cheaper. From January 1st next year, the federal government plans
[00:21:44] to introduce a cap on the price of fuel, meaning per liter,
[00:21:47] exactly what they have been doing in Luxembourg for some time, quite
[00:21:51] successfully. One of the rules that has been introduced in recent months, but hasn't really
[00:21:55] yielded any results, is, for example, that at such gas
[00:21:58] stations, only at 12 o'clock, precisely at
[00:22:01] noon, can the price of fuel be increased, meaning only once a day,
[00:22:05] so that consumers can better plan when
[00:22:08] they go to fill up fuel. The consequence of all this, especially in these
[00:22:12] border areas, is so-called "tank tourism",
[00:22:15] Aleksandra. This means that people from Germany who live in Germany prefer
[00:22:19] to go to Poland or other countries to fill up
[00:22:22] their tank. Yes, such excursions are well-known
[00:22:26] in these areas. And how do these economic conditions,
[00:22:29] or rather misfortunes, spill over into the political choices of Germans? Is that
[00:22:33] one of the keys to the rise of Alternative for
[00:22:36] Germany? And not
[00:22:40] eastern Germany, which we also followed as
[00:22:43] Deutsche Welle, for example in Saxony and Anhalt, some parties,
[00:22:47] not only Alternative for Germany, but also, for example, BSV, the Alliance.
[00:22:50] Wagenknecht, precisely through their huge jumbo billboards,
[00:22:54] called on citizens to vote for them, because they are, as they say, the ones
[00:22:57] who will, with their policy, enable the return of those lower
[00:23:01] energy prices. And how would they achieve this? One of
[00:23:04] their saving solutions, they say, is to start
[00:23:08] importing gas from Russia again, to stop
[00:23:11] financing Ukraine in its defense against Russian aggression.
[00:23:15] With such results they achieved, with such actually
[00:23:18] marketing campaigns, they achieved quite good results. AfD, for example,
[00:23:22] in those elections alone, achieved almost uh, an absolute
[00:23:25] majority and is now in a situation to form a government precisely with
[00:23:29] BSV. Pressure on Friedrich Merz's government has also increased, among other things,
[00:23:33] due to his poor economic policy,
[00:23:36] consequently and due to the increase in financial
[00:23:38] burden for citizens in Germany, a country that is actually
[00:23:42] mobile, whose prosperity, whose economy depends on citizens being
[00:23:45] mobile, on them traveling several hundred kilometers to
[00:23:49] their workplace. It precisely depends on how much fuel will
[00:23:53] cost at such gas stations, and that is why the government is under
[00:23:56] pressure, of course, from the increased financial burden on citizens, and on the
[00:24:00] other hand, from the poor election results in the past
[00:24:03] state elections, decided to finally act,
[00:24:06] finally to take some more concrete steps.
[00:24:10] Srećko, thank you very much for the information and this
[00:24:13] update.
[00:24:17] We are now going to take a short break, and then we will continue with the topic.
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[00:30:29] You are watching Global Focus, the topic of energy security,
[00:30:33] instability of the energy crisis. We continue with one of the most prominent energy
[00:30:36] experts in Serbia, Mr. Aleksandar Kovačević, who is a senior research
[00:30:40] fellow at the Oxford Institute for Energy
[00:30:43] Studies. Good evening, welcome to
[00:30:46] Global Focus. Let's discuss with you what are the main
[00:30:49] geopolitical factors that cause the energy crisis,
[00:30:52] energy instability, and how that affects
[00:30:55] us here?
[00:30:57] Uh, quite.