NDTV — broadcast 20260806 123000 UTC 427 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:06] stones, to show this, [00:00:30] happened against and against Barq instigates riots in Sambhal their colleagues. So somewhere [00:00:34] or the other, such things are being [00:00:37] deliberately brought by the government to divert people's attention, [00:00:41] which creates division among people. There is silence on the death of five people. [00:00:44] It's amazing. Five people have died. [00:00:48] They were directly shot. There will be [00:00:50] no talk about their death. Who killed them? [00:00:54] The investigation that has been conducted, the report submitted in the investigation [00:00:57] is correct. [00:01:00] When the Samajwadi Party government was in power, this is a party skilled [00:01:04] in instigating riots. A thousand riots happened in 5 years. [00:01:07] 1200 lives were lost. The leaders of the same party [00:01:11] know that if they spoke in the context of offerings, [00:01:15] immediate strict action would be taken. Here, action is not taken on the basis of religion. [00:01:18] It is taken on the basis of deeds. [00:01:21] The killer is also the witness. [00:01:23] That's it. [00:01:26] The BJP only has Hindu-Muslim [00:01:30] society, Hindu Pakistan and nothing [00:01:32] else. [00:01:38] The guests joining me, let me introduce them. [00:01:42] With us is BJP National Spokesperson Prem Shukla ji. [00:01:45] Prem ji, after a long time, you have come to Sawaal India today. [00:01:49] With me right now is Mohammad Faiz Khan, [00:01:52] National Convenor of MRM. With us [00:01:56] is Maulana Sajid Rashidi Sahab, President of All India Imam Association. [00:02:09] First of all, Prem Shukla ji, I am starting with you because [00:02:13] the question is directly being raised by the Samajwadi Party [00:02:16] that you brought the Sambhal investigation [00:02:20] report before the elections so that [00:02:25] for Akhilesh Yadav, the atmosphere could be polarized, so that the opposition would not ask [00:02:27] questions about donation theft. In this, [00:02:33] and the Samajwadi Party, [00:02:37] is it not necessary to reveal the truth about the Sambhal riots? Is it not? [00:02:41] Is it not the government's responsibility to expose [00:02:45] the people who hatched [00:02:48] report orchestrated by the government a planned conspiracy in Sambhal and caused riots, [00:02:52] pelted stones, fired bullets, and caused loss of life? [00:02:55] Is it not the government's responsibility to take action [00:02:58] against such people? The government [00:03:02] is ready to discuss all other issues. [00:03:05] We are ready to discuss every [00:03:08] topic. But as soon [00:03:12] as we expose the distorted faces [00:03:16] in the riots, why does [00:03:19] the Samajwadi Party and the I.N.D.I.A. Alliance [00:03:23] start squealing? This is also a question, [00:03:27] isn't it, that in this country, [00:03:30] those who have a distorted history of continuously [00:03:34] instigating riots, instead of accepting [00:03:37] the responsibility of exposing [00:03:42] and we stand with those families such people as responsible for the riot incident, instead of taking action [00:03:46] against those who instigated the riot, the expectation is, isn't it, [00:03:50] that the Samajwadi Party should take action [00:03:54] but against Ziaur Rahman Barq who instigated the riots, against the MLA who instigated the riots? [00:03:58] What place do rioters have in our party? [00:04:00] Instead, they are trying to cover them up. This [00:04:03] in itself is extremely unfortunate [00:04:07] that you harbor rioters, [00:04:10] activate rioters, carry out violent activities, [00:04:13] and after that, if [00:04:17] such violent jackals are exposed, [00:04:20] you also squeal. This is amazing. [00:04:23] You said that, I am going to Sunil ji. [00:04:27] Sunil ji, you seem to have heard Prem ji. [00:04:31] I don't need to repeat it. Do you [00:04:34] think that a report of an inquiry committee came, it was presented, and it is right to link it [00:04:38] to offering theft, that offering theft happened, so they brought [00:04:42] this inquiry report to divert attention from those allegations? [00:04:45] It is an inquiry report. If something has come out in it, [00:04:49] is it not necessary to take it seriously? [00:04:50] No. [00:04:54] No, it is absolutely necessary to take it seriously, but I think [00:04:58] the Uttar Pradesh government does not need to take it seriously. [00:05:01] to throw stones, to incite stone pelting, This government has failed [00:05:05] on all its promises. This government, [00:05:08] I would like to request through your program [00:05:12] to the people of JP that you were given [00:05:16] two opportunities by the respected people of Uttar Pradesh. [00:05:19] Which promise did you fulfill? [00:05:22] Your entire 5 years [00:05:25] went into Hindu-Muslim issues, snatching the reservations of backward Dalits, [00:05:29] committing scams, looting donations. [00:05:32] And I am saying [00:05:36] one more thing. I was just listening to the BJP [00:05:39] spokesperson. Look, [00:05:43] we are not in favor of breaking [00:05:46] the law or riots or any of these things. [00:05:50] But you also have to understand [00:05:53] how much the BJP likes riots and riots are instigated [00:05:57] by those who benefit from riots. The Bharatiya Janata [00:06:00] Party always benefits from Hindu, Muslim and [00:06:04] riots. And they even made [00:06:07] the Chief Minister in Uttar Pradesh, who was accused of riots. [00:06:10] We are saying from the heart that [00:06:14] you look at your leader in Uttar Pradesh and on the other hand [00:06:18] look at our leader. You tell me [00:06:21] who instigated the riots, who had criminal [00:06:24] cases against them. There are no criminal cases against our leader. [00:06:28] Whenever our leader is mentioned, the mention of 19 [00:06:32] lakh laptops comes up, the mention of metro comes up, the mention of expressway [00:06:36] comes up, the mention of good buildings like JPNIC [00:06:40] comes up, the mention of medical colleges comes up. You are talking about the report of the judicial inquiry. [00:07:05] Is that acceptable to you or not? Look, there are two things. The government is conducting a judicial inquiry. And [00:07:09] that same sharp government [00:07:13] which has not been able to catch the donation thieves till now. [00:07:17] Well, our leader has said one thing, let me say it through your program. [00:07:20] Honorable Chief Minister Yogi ji is constantly saying [00:07:24] that he will separate milk from water. [00:07:27] Our leader said that give [00:07:30] silver for silver, gold for gold, give cash [00:07:34] for the cash you have looted. Sunil ji, I am asking [00:07:38] you again, a report of the judicial commission came. [00:07:41] Is that acceptable to you or not? [00:07:45] Do you think it's a false report, a fake report? [00:07:48] Then say so. Don't beat around the bush. [00:07:52] Prem Shukla ji is sitting here, say it. [00:07:56] If you want to say it, your leader's report is a [00:08:01] to hide its failures. [00:08:04] This is [00:08:07] a report orchestrated by the government so that their failures are not discussed, [00:08:11] their looting is not discussed. Okay, now you are saying this. [00:08:14] Their looting is being discussed. I was saying the same thing [00:08:18] because your leader Awadhesh Prasad is saying this, so why are you beating around the bush so much? [00:08:22] Say it directly. He is putting them in the dock. He is saying that it was brought [00:08:26] at this time so that attention could be diverted during the elections. Prem Shukla ji, [00:08:30] you have brought this report to divert attention from donation theft. [00:08:33] Its echoes will remain in 27. Ziaur Rahman Barq's [00:08:37] father, his father said, he has already said it, [00:08:41] I had played one of his statements. [00:08:43] He said that the BJP wants to create another Ayodhya. Please answer this. [00:08:46] Look, a judicial report [00:08:50] is based on evidence and witnesses. [00:08:54] The spokesperson of riot emperor [00:08:57] Akhilesh Yadav here is rejecting [00:09:01] that judicial report without even reading it. [00:09:04] Brother, at the time of the Muzaffarnagar riots, [00:09:08] the evil deed of giving shelter to the rioters [00:09:11] was done by Azam Khan, the goat thief. [00:09:15] Is that incident hidden from anyone? In the incident [00:09:19] of Azam Khan, the goat thief, just like [00:09:21] relief was given to Muslims among the rioters, [00:09:25] it was not given to Hindu riot victims. And when the Supreme Court [00:09:28] reprimanded, how did Mr. [00:09:31] Akhilesh Yadav commit the evil act of instigating [00:09:35] riots and giving the benefit of the riots [00:09:38] to a specific community? This [00:09:41] has been told by the Supreme Court with a reprimand. On this very Ram Janmabhoomi temple, [00:09:45] on the temple of Shri Ram Lalla, jihadi terrorists [00:09:48] committed the evil act of attacking. [00:09:52] Did they ask their religion? [00:09:55] What if they are Muslims, they are jihadis? [00:09:59] What if they are Muslims, they are our vote bank? [00:10:02] So to get some part of that Muslim vote bank, [00:10:06] how did Akhilesh Yadav decide to release [00:10:09] Muslim jihadis? And the Allahabad High Court [00:10:13] reprimanded him for that, but these are shameless people. [00:10:17] The shamelessness of these shameless people is that even today [00:10:20] they defend it. So [00:10:24] those who had the most riots during their tenure, [00:10:27] those who gave shelter to rioters, [00:10:30] Azam Khan, the goat thief, did the work of releasing [00:10:33] those who started the riot in Muzaffarnagar from police stations. [00:10:37] Is this hidden from anyone? Everyone knows this very well. [00:10:41] This is an open secret. And right now, [00:10:44] Ziaur Rahman Barq is instigating riots, [00:10:48] and the BJP is benefiting. Ziaur Rahman [00:10:53] to benefit the BJP. [00:10:55] Brother, they have a history of instigating riots. During the tenure [00:10:59] of the respected Yogi Adityanath of the Bharatiya Janata [00:11:02] Party, riot conspiracies are thwarted. [00:11:06] This is their pain. Now, [00:11:09] I want to ask one thing. [00:11:12] Faizan Sahab, I will ask you, Rashidiji, Rashidiji, first you tell me [00:11:15] about this report that came, in which it was said that [00:11:19] a rumor was spread. In this, the name of MP Ziaur [00:11:23] Rahman Barq is there. The name of Suhail Iqbal is there. [00:11:26] And it has been said that speeches were given before the survey. [00:11:30] Efforts were made to gather crowds through social media. And many outsiders [00:11:34] were activated, saying that look, the survey team that is coming [00:11:38] is coming to demolish the mosque. In this report, [00:11:41] through a list of witnesses, [00:11:44] as Prem Shukla ji is saying, this report has come after [00:11:48] what happened there. Are you accepting this report or not? [00:11:51] Look, the Samajwadi Party [00:11:55] has its own history, [00:11:56] there is no doubt about it. [00:12:00] The riot of 2013 [00:12:03] was such a horrific riot [00:12:06] that even today lakhs of people are homeless. [00:12:10] They never talk about it. They never gave anyone a home. [00:12:14] They never went and healed anyone's wounds. [00:12:18] And they always incite Muslims. [00:12:21] They always provoke Muslims. [00:12:25] The question is that whenever something comes up [00:12:28] related to Muslims, who are the people from Samajwadi [00:12:32] who speak first? Brother, ask us too, [00:12:35] what do we want? They deliberately give [00:12:38] such statements so that it creates incitement [00:12:42] and somewhere or the other, it spreads hatred in the country. [00:12:46] Whose statement, whose statement are [00:12:49] you saying? These Samajwadi people give it. [00:12:53] If at that time [00:13:25] a little restraint had been shown, perhaps those five people would not have died, [00:13:29] those five people who are gone. [00:13:32] Those five people, they would have been someone's brother, [00:13:35] someone's husband, someone's son. [00:13:39] The death of those five people is a tragic death. [00:13:43] Everyone should think about it. And all those [00:13:47] who bake their political loaves on the dead bodies of others, [00:13:50] they should at least think that only the one whose son dies [00:13:54] or whose husband dies, only they know [00:13:58] how much pain and suffering they go through. These people are just doing their political [00:14:01] thing. Okay, Rashidi ji, what you are saying, [00:14:04] you are saying that this is being done [00:14:07] for political gain. I am also showing these pictures. [00:14:11] My viewers should see them. The violence in Sambhal in '24, [00:14:14] if people can remember by looking at these pictures, [00:14:18] anyway, these are not pictures that can be forgotten. The way the violence happened, stone pelting happened, [00:14:21] then the police came there, tried to stop it, tear gas. [00:15:26] these riots, they incite their workers, [00:15:30] that this will happen to you, you are doing this, Sunil ji, [00:15:34] you are inciting your workers, they are saying that you people... [00:15:38] I can only understand that perhaps it's a power struggle. They are saying that since 2014, you people are handing over [00:15:43] to polarize, you people are spreading stones, handing over stones to your [00:15:47] workers. [00:15:50] Look, we are Samajwadi people, we never [00:15:54] believe in riots, stone pelting, fighting, [00:15:58] or violence. There is a Maulana Sahab sitting here, [00:16:01] I don't know his name, whoever he is, Maulana [00:16:04] Rashid is working as an agent of the BJP, [00:16:08] whoever he is, he can't even speak the truth on TV. Sometimes he speaks in your support, [00:16:12] he can't even speak the truth. Look, Sucharita, Sucharita, [00:16:15] no, because [00:16:19] I don't have a TV in front of me right now, so I couldn't know, [00:16:23] I only heard the voice, for which I am only saying [00:16:27] that brother, please listen. We were speaking in between. [00:16:30] Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. [00:16:34] What is Rashidi ji saying? [00:17:07] went to Jantar Mantar and the language and the things [00:17:11] that were said to Modi ji, all those things about Modi ji [00:17:14] should be considered true. What does [00:17:18] this mean? What does this mean? [00:17:21] Akhilesh Yadav ji is advancing the Samajwadi movement. [00:17:25] Akhilesh Yadav ji is working to defeat [00:17:29] the capitalist people with the slogan of PDA. [00:17:32] No, tell me one thing. Tell me one thing, no, [00:17:36] I am not saying that I agree with what the Maulana [00:17:39] Sahab is saying, but with whom are you comparing [00:17:42] Mulayam Singh ji? If some roadside person [00:17:46] was using bad words at Jantar Mantar, are you comparing [00:17:50] them with Mulayam Singh ji, with Netaji? Look, remember [00:17:54] one thing, Netaji has said a lot about the BJP. [00:17:57] Yes, they will definitely accept it. Oh brother, [00:18:02] to [00:18:07] weaken Akhilesh Yadav [00:18:10] working as an agent of the BJP will not do. [00:18:14] Look, the Samajwadi Party, with the slogan of PDA, [00:18:17] halved the BJP in 2024. [00:18:21] In 2027, they will clean [00:18:23] sweep the BJP. [00:18:26] Look, one thing, if any Muslim raises questions about the Samajwadi Party, [00:18:29] why are they an agent of the BJP? Because you assume that no [00:18:33] Muslim will support the BJP. If they are, then they are an agent of the BJP. [00:18:36] Do you assume that? Faizan Sahab, is this [00:18:39] what it is, that no Muslim will support? [00:18:43] I am coming, Sunil ji, I am coming. Please bring Shahdab ji on screen. [00:18:47] The thing is, if a Muslim votes for the Samajwadi Party, [00:18:50] votes for Congress, then he is their beloved. And if [00:18:54] he talks about RSS, talks about BJP, then he is a tout. [00:18:57] This is their strange policy. And look, Sucharita ji, their arguments [00:19:01] are very strange. In 1875, [00:19:04] Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay wrote Vande Mataram [00:19:08] because in 2025, it will be 150 years, and the Bengal elections will come, and [00:19:11] the BJP will benefit from it. Is this some kind of argument? [00:19:15] 150 years ago, he wrote Vande Mataram for this reason. Now this report has come about the Sambhal riots. [00:19:19] This report has come to hide the theft in the Ram temple. [00:19:23] Oh brother, the report has come under legal process. [00:19:26] And those who are guilty of the Ram temple are also being punished. [00:19:30] And those who are guilty of Sambhal will also be punished. [00:19:33] And I completely agree with this. Where did this sudden tendency come from [00:19:37] to make Muslims victims and stone-pelters? In Turkman Gate, [00:19:41] everything was going peacefully. Mohibullah Nadwi came, [00:19:45] stone pelting started. Which party is he from? [00:19:48] Samajwadi Party. Tahir Hussain, in Delhi riots, [00:19:52] which party is he from? Aam Aadmi Party. Ziyaur Rahman Barq, guilty of riots in Sambhal, [00:19:56] which party is he from? Samajwadi Party. Riots happen in Bareilly, [00:20:00] Tauqeer Raza, the Samajwadi Party also supports them. [00:20:03] In Delhi riots, Tahir Hussain, Sharjeel Imam, [00:20:07] Umar Khalid, who supports all of them? [00:20:10] These poor children, students, are called by the Samajwadi Party, [00:20:14] Aam Aadmi Party, Congress Party. That is, you people [00:20:17] will support every rioter, every stone-pelter, [00:20:20] every looter. And those who talk about nationalism, [00:20:24] talk about unity and integrity in the country, you will call them agents of the BJP. [00:20:27] Until yesterday, Maulana Sajid Rashidi Sahab was their beloved. [00:20:31] Today, a quote from Mulayam Singh Yadav ji was mentioned, that one who is not of his father [00:20:34] cannot be of anyone. So today, Sajid Rashidi also became an agent [00:20:38] of the BJP, a tout. They started saying this. [00:20:42] Brother, he said this for his biological son. It could have been a political [00:20:45] sentence for the BJP. But saying this for his [00:20:49] biological son is very thoughtful, [00:20:53] very considerable. I want to request that the work [00:20:56] of the police is to protect, not to falsely implicate. [00:21:00] Akhilesh ji, okay, but the work of the police is not [00:21:04] to shoot Ram devotees. It was your and your [00:21:07] father's rule, then girls could not go to school. [00:21:11] Schools, colleges, we all know this. When it was your rule, [00:21:15] the Bharat Milap program could not be held, [00:21:18] and goons and criminals used to roam freely with guns. [00:21:21] And in the film Ajay, it has been shown very well [00:21:25] what changes have happened after Yogi Adityanath ji came. [00:21:29] That's why those who walk on the path of lies, try to speak the truth, [00:21:32] then something will happen. And what's the use of breaking a mirror? [00:21:36] If you erase the stains from your face, then something will happen. [00:21:39] And to the spokesperson of the Samajwadi Party, [00:21:43] I have a request. The stone-pelters, [00:21:46] abusers, reel-makers in Delhi were abusing so badly. [00:22:09] The report states that the MP there raised slogans, standing on the mosque stairs, saying that this mosque was and will remain. It was told to the people that the survey team coming is coming to demolish it. [00:22:13] Right now, because it is coming to remove it, [00:22:17] is this inciting or not? No, look, Sucharita ji, when that survey [00:22:21] team came, the way it was, and it seemed that Vishnu [00:22:25] Shankar Jain was leading it, you can show its footage as well. [00:22:29] First of all, if any report comes, [00:22:32] from any commission, it is a commission formed by the government, [00:22:36] and everyone knows what the government's [00:22:40] role has been in it. The honorable Chief Minister ji repeatedly calls it Hari Har Mandir, [00:22:43] even though there is no such evidence, no such court's [00:22:47] decision has come, which the Chief Minister ji openly calls Hari Har [00:22:51] Mandir. So what can be expected from them? But I have full faith in our [00:22:54] judiciary that justice will be done. [00:22:57] No innocent person will be punished, and no culprit, whether [00:23:01] he is a person holding any position, whether he is an ordinary person, [00:23:04] or any person, no one will be able to escape. The judiciary will do justice, [00:23:08] it will definitely do so. We have faith in this. [00:23:12] The other thing is that it is not necessary to consider any report as final. [00:23:15] And as a lawyer, many such reports have come [00:23:20] which were presented by commissions formed by the government, which the courts have refused [00:23:23] to accept or have been proven wrong. So this is a fact. [00:23:27] The other thing is that you are making allegations against someone that he did this [00:23:31] and that. This matter will go to court. The court will definitely decide, [00:23:34] but the attitude of the government [00:23:38] and their officers at that time are speaking the language of politicians today. [00:23:41] So we have told them that they should directly enter politics. So you are saying that many judicial commission [00:23:45] reports came which were overturned in court or the court did not accept them. [00:23:49] So you are saying that will you speak against this, because your [00:23:53] leader gave many statements on Sambhal? He gave many statements [00:23:56] during Sambhal, I remember, and interviews also. [00:24:00] Now, if you feel that the report is wrong or [00:24:03] sponsored, as Sunil ji called it fake, will MIM [00:24:07] take any stand against this? Definitely, [00:24:09] Sucharita ji, our chairman [00:24:12] Mushir Chaudhary Sahab is keeping an eye on all things [00:24:16] to see what legal aid can be provided in this matter. [00:24:19] And because this matter will be decided by the judiciary [00:24:22] in court, because neither the government nor any common person can decide it. [00:24:26] And the Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen has condolences with those families whose lives were lost, [00:24:32] who are victims, whoever they are, because everyone's life is important. [00:24:35] Look, what happens is, it's very easy to say [00:24:39] that we have our condolences, we stand with the people, [00:24:44] when you keep calling a matter a lie, [00:24:48] that is also incitement. So when you are calling something a lie, [00:24:52] then try to go to court against it. If this is a lie, [00:24:55] I openly say that if this is a lie and this is a lie [00:24:59] served by the government, then do not express condolences with those people. [00:25:02] Go to court to get their rights or will there only be rhetoric [00:25:06] in the studio? Oh Sucharita ji, I clearly said [00:25:10] that we will definitely approach the judiciary in this matter, and we believe [00:25:14] that the judiciary will do justice, and we are ready for whatever legal aid [00:25:17] the victims will need. The matter is about justice, [00:25:20] and it is the job of the judiciary to do justice. [00:25:24] We cannot declare anyone a criminal based on any report. [00:25:28] I want to ask Sunil ji, since he is calling it fake, [00:25:32] Sunil ji, will your party [00:25:36] also go to court against this, that it is a false, fake report? [00:25:39] You don't have that much courage. [00:25:41] Oh, it's absolutely a fake report, it's a planned [00:25:45] attempt [00:25:48] by the government to falsely implicate people. [00:25:52] And I am saying again, the Samajwadi Party does [00:25:55] not have the courage to go to court against [00:25:59] this. [00:26:02] Oh, we have so much courage that we just halved the BJP, now we will completely [00:26:06] wipe them out. You keep fighting for them. [00:26:10] You are afraid to speak on issues related to Muslims. Your leader [00:26:13] is even afraid to say the word Muslim. This is your courage. [00:26:17] What atrocities have been committed against Muslims in the last nine years? [00:26:20] What false propaganda are you spreading on TV? [00:26:22] When Muslims were mob-lynched [00:26:27] in the last nine years. Our houses were bulldozed, [00:26:30] atrocities were committed. [00:26:32] How many movements came out with your 100 MLAs and 37 MPs [00:26:36] under the leadership of Akhilesh ji? Show one photo, prove Shahdab Chauhan wrong. [00:26:39] If in Uttar Pradesh, the Yogi government [00:26:43] or the BJP government [00:26:45] is there, [00:26:48] then Honorable Akhilesh Yadav ji fought [00:26:50] and the Samajwadi Party fought [00:26:55] till the house. People used to campaign [00:26:58] that the Samajwadi Party is MY. The same Samajwadi Party [00:28:33] has now become PDA. You can imagine, [00:28:36] when it became PDA, where will the Bharatiya Janata Party be seen? [00:28:40] Where are we? [00:28:43] भारतीय जनता पार्टी कहां नजर आएगी, कहां [00:28:47] With us, minority Muslims are with us. [00:28:50] Muslims are with you in the minority, but you are not with Muslims. [00:28:53] What is your stand on Vande Mataram? Tell me what your stand is on Vande Mataram, on the law that the government has brought. [00:28:57] Tell me. You tell me. [00:29:01] Do you support it or oppose it? [00:30:02] Just tell me in one line. The Muslims of the country are watching whether the Samajwadi Party [00:30:06] supports the law against the faith of Muslims, [00:30:10] Tauheed, which was brought in Parliament, or opposes it. [00:30:13] Tell me. [00:30:14] Whatever [00:30:18] law the Bharatiya Janata Party brings [00:30:22] against any community, it is the Samajwadi Party [00:30:25] that fights in the house. You people are not [00:30:29] fighting. You people are not fighting. [00:30:32] Only the Samajwadi Party is fighting. And we are saying again, [00:30:36] if anyone can defeat the BJP, [00:30:39] it is only the Samajwadi Party. I [00:30:41] thought [00:30:48] that in this debate, Prem ji, one second, bring Prem Shukla ji on screen. [00:30:52] Prem ji, I thought this debate was a direct debate between SP versus [00:30:54] BJP, but many fronts have opened up here now. [00:30:58] हैं अब यहां