NDTV — broadcast 20261011 143000 UTC 200 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:18] of your leadership. [00:01:41] to them is [00:02:17] Foundation for the Navy, [00:02:30] We will die. We will bring revolution, we will die. [00:02:33] would be child's play We will bring revolution. The government of Pakistan [00:02:36] from those who used to promise us [00:02:39] that we have gathered armies for you, [00:02:43] we know when a bullet is fired, [00:02:46] it does not come out of you. We know [00:02:49] that these soldiers do not come forward, [00:02:52] and our people protect [00:02:56] you, and this people, in the crime of the hospital matter, [00:03:00] in the crime of asking for schools, in the crime of asking for education, [00:03:03] in the crime of asking for employment, in the crime of declaring [00:03:07] these people murderers, and after killing [00:03:10] more than 100 people in three months, [00:03:14] even today, the government of Pakistan, [00:03:17] the institutions of the government of Pakistan, [00:03:20] are still insistent on not only silencing me and you, [00:03:24] but also for the rest of our lives. [00:03:28] There's [00:03:47] The ceasefire [00:03:51] of the ceasefire line, [00:05:14] a person above them. So I tell [00:05:18] him not to talk here and there. [00:05:22] Tell me why the caravan [00:05:25] returned. I have no complaint with the robbers, [00:05:28] it's a question [00:05:30] That [00:05:33] Pashtuns have always been brave and fearless. [00:05:37] If they [00:05:39] think that we will be scared [00:05:43] by their threats, then go [00:05:46] and ask the Britishers whose skulls are still [00:05:50] lying on the land of Khyber. [00:05:53] Do you people approve [00:05:57] of the operation? But as soon as this black map [00:05:59] came out of the military headquarters, the gunpowder of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa [00:06:03] exploded. [00:06:04] ہے۔ [00:06:07] The fearless commanders of Imran Khan's party, Tehreek-e-Insaf, [00:06:10] and [00:06:42] they have held the parliament hostage. Those because [00:06:46] of whom this fake government is not obeying [00:06:50] court orders. My message [00:06:53] that they should still come to their senses. Pakistan [00:06:57] is sinking. Pakistan is going towards destruction. [00:07:00] This is in tribal youth, in Pashtuns, [00:07:04] in Baloch, in Punjabis, in Sindhis, [00:07:08] in Kashmiris, in Gilgitis, against you [00:07:12] that [00:08:43] BOJK has broken the chains of Islamabad's economic slavery. [00:08:46] They will hold programs [00:08:50] in every village and we Kashmiris [00:08:54] do not accept this ceasefire line. We demand [00:08:57] the end of this ceasefire line. [00:08:59] should end, and for the end [00:09:04] should it be or not? [00:09:08] It should be or not. [00:10:12] is done in. General Asim Munir also [00:10:16] has the same official argument, according to The Economist report, [00:10:19] Asim Munir and his commanders [00:10:22] believe that Pakistan's current [00:12:25] reason for Pakistan's plight is not the geography of the provinces, but [00:12:29] the policies of Rawalpindi. In a country where [00:12:32] the defense budget soars year after year and [00:12:35] the budget for basic facilities keeps decreasing, where [00:12:39] the country's treasury is empty and Asim Munir's generals have [00:12:42] immense wealth, how much change [00:12:46] will simply drawing new lines on the map bring to the lives [00:12:50] of ordinary citizens? [00:12:52] If these people leave power tomorrow, they will get sick quickly. [00:15:25] Stuck in the room all day, can't go out [00:15:28] a little, no communication with anyone, they say Asim [00:15:32] Munir is responsible for the ranger [00:15:35] chains. [00:15:39] But the reason for the army's trouble is not just this, because [00:15:43] Pakistan with four provinces has been a witness to the grassroots politics of big leaders. [00:15:47] In Sindh, the People's Party has been strengthening [00:15:50] its hold for decades. [00:15:52] हैं [00:15:57] that this issue should be discussed in the National Assembly [00:16:00] and motion of no confidence comes less in the National Assembly. [00:16:04] So for business forums. [00:18:07] So controlling them [00:18:11] for Rawalpindi's corps commanders. That is, [00:18:14] the same old colonial formula of divide and rule [00:18:17] which Asim Munir now wants to implement [00:18:21] in a new guise. [00:18:35] Now let's come to that biggest, most bitter and most legal truth, [00:18:39] before which all the calculations of Rawalpindi's generals [00:18:43] seem to be failing. The claims are grand, a plan [00:18:45] for 160 pieces is being made, but the question is whether [00:18:49] General Asim Muni or his puppet Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif [00:18:53] have the constitutional right to draw new lines on Pakistan's map [00:18:56] or not. For this, one has to look at Article [00:19:00] 239, sub clause 4 [00:19:04] of the book of the Constitution of Pakistan. This article [00:19:07] of the Constitution clearly and strictly states [00:19:11] that if you want to change the boundaries of any province, [00:19:14] create a new province from it or break it, [00:19:17] this work cannot be done by the order of any army chief or the signature [00:19:21] of the Prime Minister. For this, two such walls will have to be crossed which [00:19:25] are almost impossible. The first way is the approval [00:19:28] of the Parliament. The resolution for constitutional amendment [00:19:32] has to be passed by a two-thirds majority of both houses of Pakistan's [00:19:35] Parliament, i.e., the National [00:19:38] Assembly and the Senate, and the second biggest obstacle is the veto power of the province. The law says [00:19:42] that the province you want to break, whether it is [00:19:46] Punjab or Balochistan, its own assembly must also [00:19:50] have the seal of two-thirds [00:19:52] members. Now you tell [00:19:56] me, why would any big leader of the Punjab [00:19:59] Assembly or any MLA of Balochistan [00:20:02] vote to break their own province, the province [00:20:06] on whose strength their state [00:20:51] So will Shahbaz Sharif also go to any [00:20:54] extent to fulfill Munir's dream this time? [00:20:56] گے؟ [00:20:59] Asim Munir was on the line and said, "Prime Minister, we have [00:21:03] given them a very strong reply, and now we are receiving [00:21:07] a request for a ceasefire, so what do you think?" I said, [00:21:11] "Salar, what could be more honorable than this? [00:21:15] You have hit the enemy very hard. [00:21:18] His head was cracked, now he is forced to ceasefire. [00:21:22] So I think you should begin in the name of Allah [00:21:25] and accept this ceasefire [00:21:27] offer." [00:21:35] To show, this will be a beautiful dream of administrative reform, [00:21:38] where the promise of reaching government offices to people [00:21:42] in remote areas is being made, but if you look closely, this is about ending [00:21:46] Pakistan's provincial identity and the country's [00:22:20] then there is [00:22:20] Rawalpindi. [00:22:26] If this happens, it will not just be the division of the map, it will be [00:22:30] such a centralization of power where civilian [00:22:34] governments will remain only in name. [00:22:36] जाएंगी, [00:22:40] 160 sectors means 160 small [00:22:43] brigadiers or colonels, military officers who [00:22:47] directly control the ground administration? [00:22:50] That is, wearing the cloak of democracy, to run a fully [00:22:54] military government. [00:22:57] General Munir knows that the people [00:23:00] of Pakistan are now coming out on the streets [00:23:03] against the army. Therefore, there cannot be an easier [00:23:07] way to break the unity of the people than to snatch their identity [00:23:11] from the provinces and confine them in small compartments. [00:23:15] जाए. [00:23:26] Listen to the bitter truth of The Economist: the problems that the army [00:23:30] is pretending to solve, the root of all those destructions [00:23:34] is the Pakistan Army itself. The army has captured [00:23:37] every business, from oil [00:23:40] to rations. Munir's real [00:23:43] aim is to make the provinces so small and weak [00:23:46] that no citizen can challenge the government [00:24:20] they even deal in the sale of graves. If you don't believe me, listen [00:24:23] to a former army officer of Pakistan. [00:24:27] You will realize that the army has always run [00:24:31] Pakistan's economy shop. [00:24:32] ہے۔ [00:24:37] This is not the business of the Pakistan Armed Forces. [00:24:40] Rather, the institution of the Fauji Foundation runs under the Ministry [00:24:43] of Defense. And it has various [00:24:47] industries. Similarly, the army has its own welfare [00:24:51] fund, which is also run by civilians, and [00:24:54] in this, the control is only with [00:24:57] the General in GHQ, apart from that, there is nothing [00:25:01] else. Now, these institutions of the Fauji Foundation, [00:25:04] which are Fauji Fertilizer, Fauji Bin Qasim, [00:25:08] Fauji Cement, these are the institutions [00:25:11] that were established. In the beginning, the first [00:25:15] investment was made that this welfare [00:25:17] money that was in India. [00:26:02] is around 100 billion dollars. If we convert [00:26:05] it to Pakistani rupees, this amount [00:26:08] is around 280 lakh crores. [00:26:11] Now the question is, how does the Pakistan [00:26:15] Army have such a turnover? So according to the book, the Pakistan [00:26:19] Army runs many businesses there. [00:26:21] The Pakistan Army has infiltrated [00:26:24] cement, fertilizer, banking sector, dairy production, transport [00:26:28] and housing sectors. Besides this, food, [00:28:02] is called the largest commercial group or business [00:28:05] conglomerate there. And these businesses run [00:28:09] under the names of different organizations such as Fauji [00:28:13] Foundation, Army Welfare Trust, Shaheen Foundation [00:28:17] for the Air Force, Bahria [00:28:20] Defense Housing [00:28:21] Authority. [00:28:25] Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa, who wrote a book on the business of the Pakistan Army, [00:28:28] what does she say about the army's business model? Her [00:30:32] era will determine the date of its final demise. [00:30:36] Shahbaz Sharif is silent out of fear, but [00:30:39] the fire of rebellion has spread from Khyber to Sindh and from POJK [00:30:43] to Balochistan. So is the history of [00:30:46] 1971 going to repeat itself in 2026? Is General [00:30:50] Asim Munir going to prove to be the last army chief [00:30:53] of Pakistan? The decision is now being made not in the barracks [00:30:57] of Rawalpindi, but on the burning streets of Pakistan. On this.