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[00:00:00] and the main calculation is made, in this area
[00:00:03] our legislative
[00:00:06] system, it kind of looks like this: here
[00:00:09] it's civil law,
[00:00:12] although there are 25 of you according to the same scheme,
[00:00:15] go to court, well, that is, go, go to
[00:00:18] courts, that's it
[00:00:21] and have fun, but before going to court, the woman
[00:00:24] started her own investigation and quite quickly realized that her
[00:00:28] case was far from unique. I wrote everywhere that a public
[00:00:31] reception was open, left my contact, my
[00:00:35] name, and literally, I started
[00:00:38] receiving many
[00:00:41] phone calls, we also suffered yesterday, we were
[00:00:45] deceived, we paid 90, 80,
[00:00:49] 100, everyone had different amounts, Elena began to look for other victims,
[00:00:53] collecting information bit by bit, the main clue for her was
[00:00:56] the documents left after the move, it was they who led.
[00:01:30] law enforcement agencies - appearing in an intoxicated state,
[00:01:33] consuming alcoholic products three in a public place,
[00:01:37] assault, but the deeper Elena delved into this story, the more
[00:01:40] new names, company names and advertisements surfaced. It became
[00:01:44] clear that it was no longer about one person or one company,
[00:01:48] we are facing a whole chain, and now the main thing is to understand how it is structured
[00:01:52] and who is connected to whom. Let's go look for the company itself.
[00:01:55] Several addresses for Leader Finance appear in the documents, we check them
[00:01:59] one by one.
[00:02:30] We can't find room 29/2, does it even exist
[00:02:33] or not? Yes, this room exists, but there is just a legal entity registered, there is no one
[00:02:37] there, physically, no one is physically there, I repeat again,
[00:02:40] they just rent out legal addresses, but if the offices were difficult to find,
[00:02:44] then the participants of the moves themselves are hidden
[00:02:47] much worse by the internet, we begin to study open pages on
[00:02:51] social networks, this is Danilo Gudtsov, his name has already been encountered
[00:02:55] by us in the stories of the victims, and now a familiar face in the footage of one
[00:02:59] of the moves. "Here is a young man dancing near a car containing
[00:03:02] the belongings of pensioner Anatoly Ivanov, I caught
[00:03:06] the moment when Daniil was dancing
[00:03:09] near the car, rejoicing and saying, but this
[00:03:13] is how lucky we are, I didn't even
[00:03:16] expect that something like this could happen, to make a business out of
[00:03:19] women, out of pensioners and rejoice in it, that
[00:03:23] people are in tears, grief, collecting their last money, on Gudtsov's
[00:03:27] social media pages there are expensive cars, foreign trips.
[00:03:30] Photos from luxury hotels, he doesn't really look like someone who
[00:03:34] moves furniture,
[00:03:37] but another picture is much more interesting, in it, along with
[00:03:40] Danila, are two of his colleagues, Dmitry Troitsky and the head
[00:03:43] of the company Dmitry Lukyanov. Their surnames had previously surfaced in various
[00:03:47] episodes of our investigation, and now all three are in one
[00:03:50] frame, and not only in the photo, this is just
[00:03:53] chaos, I'll pour, this is
[00:03:57] clothes, uh-huh.
[00:05:00] The initial cost of the move grew to an amount that no one
[00:05:03] mentioned at the start. When we go up to the apartment, already
[00:05:07] three healthy thugs come up, who change
[00:05:10] their communication tactics.
[00:05:19] Ksenia, along with the movers, went to the police
[00:05:22] station. They again know all this clearly, these scammers,
[00:05:26] Lukyanov appeared there at the station,
[00:05:29] nonchalantly, with some arrogance, calmly under
[00:05:33] the cameras, dictating his terms at the police
[00:05:36] station. Literally, he
[00:05:38] says to me: "You'll bring me cash, red ones,
[00:05:42] crisp ones, right now," and here a curious
[00:05:46] detail emerges: in the documents of Leader Finance, cargo transportation is listed
[00:05:49] only as an additional line of business, and the main one
[00:05:53] is providing legal services. A remarkable
[00:05:56] coincidence, because in the stories of the victims, the same picture
[00:06:00] arises again and again: as soon as the client calls the police,
[00:06:03] the conversation quickly turns to the contract, signature, and
[00:06:06] a civil law dispute, this vandalism and everything else
[00:06:09] they will decide, what will they decide, I say again. The police will not
[00:06:13] pay for you, you contacted a transport company, they
[00:06:17] provided you with a contract, I repeat again, you called a transport
[00:06:20] company, you are scammers, scammers, go
[00:06:24] to Magnit, say, oh, bread costs 80 rubles,
[00:06:27] scammers, that is, instead of a normal conflict with movers, a person
[00:06:31] suddenly gets drawn into a legal game, the rules
[00:06:34] of which no one explained to him beforehand, that is, such a rude
[00:06:37] thing, and he feels that he is unpunished, he says,
[00:06:41] do what you want, he says: I worked as an assistant
[00:06:45] prosecutor in Krasnodar, I have my own
[00:06:47] lawyers, you will do nothing to me, give me money!
[00:06:51] We decided not to limit ourselves to the stories of the victims and check the scheme
[00:06:55] ourselves, we ordered a move, everything should look
[00:06:59] real, an ordinary Moscow apartment, furniture, boxes,
[00:07:02] a client who needs to move things from one address to another.
[00:07:06] We leave an application on the website, by phone we are given a quite
[00:07:09] reasonable price, they set the day and time. The movers arrive
[00:07:13] almost immediately, the first important question: what amount did
[00:07:17] the operator tell us? 3600 + 1800 as if participation
[00:07:20] turns out, that is, we are aiming for 8,000,
[00:07:24] that's right, if there will be there at the unloading, if you
[00:07:27] have it, remember this number: 8,000,
[00:07:31] we sign the contract and again ask: the final cost is
[00:07:34] not written in the contract, right? Well, yes, this will be
[00:07:37] considered, maybe we'll count it right away, simply, or
[00:07:40] how, what if.
[00:07:51] The movers put all the things in the van, and we again
[00:07:54] ask about the cost of the move, the final amount,
[00:07:57] in the end, we need to calculate, girl, I can't tell you
[00:08:01] that right now, we're going to the second address, and here the second
[00:08:04] part of the show begins, at the final point, 8,000
[00:08:07] turns into 50,800
[00:08:10] rubles. Floor work. As I promised you, everything from the first to the first, we
[00:08:14] have the elevator counted as one floor, everything is counted as one
[00:08:18] floor, crew work, car for 3 hours, minimum 1,800
[00:08:21] rubles. Delivery 3,600, total cost
[00:08:24] 50,800 rubles. The difference is more than six times,
[00:08:28] but how did 8,000 become 50? You asked me about
[00:08:32] the delivery, I calculated 2 hours for the delivery, the delivery
[00:08:35] for us, this is actually the arrival of the vehicle at the loading
[00:08:39] zone, this is not work, you thought
[00:08:42] that 3600 was all the work, right, we ask to explain the calculation,
[00:08:45] we hear the very arithmetic that the victims
[00:08:48] told us about, the operators only announce the delivery,
[00:08:52] they do not see the scope of work, we have unit-based pricing, so they cannot
[00:08:55] give the final cost, I know how operators work, they
[00:08:59] just want to take the application, create it,
[00:09:02] send it, that's it, they don't do
[00:09:05] calculations, for calculations I arrive,
[00:09:07] I load, I believe that we
[00:09:11] loaded, how much for... or how much to pay for time?
[00:09:14] We refuse 50,000, then what we started
[00:09:18] this experiment for begins. The mover steps aside and calls someone,
[00:09:21] most likely, management. So what's, what's
[00:09:24] the matter, what happened, what's wrong? Well, 50,000,
[00:09:28] when I was promised 10,000 on the phone, when I clarified that 10,000 would
[00:09:32] be enough, yes, what are you talking about, 10,000, when were prices like that,
[00:09:35] one call, a second, at the other end of the line they are clearly
[00:09:39] deciding what to do with clients who refused to give 50. He throws
[00:10:12] the waybill, I'm going to the parking lot, the car
[00:10:16] is sealed so that no one touches your things,
[00:10:19] and a claim will be made directly from the company to you
[00:10:23] and while it will go during... I experienced
[00:10:46] certainly sad
[00:10:49] emotions, it was very unpleasant,
[00:10:52] I was very angry. Yes,
[00:10:55] angry that I couldn't do anything. Tatyana was left
[00:10:58] with almost nothing, which is why lawyers advise that
[00:11:02] if the carrier unexpectedly changes the price and refuses to return
[00:11:05] property, do not try to resolve the issue with words alone,
[00:11:08] record what is happening and call the police, it would be appropriate
[00:11:12] to call a police patrol, and notify the operator in advance,
[00:11:15] that - an offense is being committed, I ask
[00:11:19] you to record and
[00:11:23] stop the violation of my rights.
[00:11:25] in the form of cargo retention, they face criminal liability, and moreover,
[00:11:29] that this is a group of persons by prior conspiracy, and
[00:11:32] also, if it concerns a legal entity, huge
[00:11:36] fines are provided for violating consumer rights, well,
[00:11:40] for quite large sums. We did exactly that, but something
[00:11:43] unexpected happened, the mover preempted us and called
[00:11:47] law enforcement himself. We provided
[00:11:50] cargo transportation services,
[00:11:53] the customer refuses to pay.
[00:11:55] But what surprised us even more was this document: we placed an order with
[00:11:59] one company, but the contract turned out to be drawn up with another,
[00:12:02] immediately after the advertisement, why the same movers appear in the applications of
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[00:17:21] The journalistic experiment is in full swing. We ordered a move. By
[00:17:24] phone we were given an approximate cost of 8.00 rubles. But
[00:17:28] at the unloading point this amount unexpectedly rose to
[00:17:31] 50,000. And that's not all. Only now another
[00:17:35] strangeness is revealed. We leave the application. Wait,
[00:17:46] they told me that the contract was concluded with Translogistic, there was
[00:17:50] another one, Leader
[00:17:52] Finance,
[00:18:00] wait, please, you just mentioned Leader
[00:18:02] Finance,
[00:18:05] but here it says Translogistic, wait. That's right, pay
[00:18:08] attention, Translogistic by TIN, I found an organization, legal
[00:18:12] address Stavropol Krai, so the investigation takes a new
[00:18:15] turn, who is Translogi and what connection does it
[00:18:19] have with the company we actually called? According to the documents, the company
[00:18:22] is registered in the Stavropol Krai, in the city of Zelenokumsk,
[00:18:26] the head is a certain Ruslan Bayramov. We go to the address
[00:18:29] indicated in the documents, but instead of a transport company office,
[00:18:33] it's an ordinary private house, here an unexpected
[00:18:36] coincidence is found. This same address leads us to the already familiar
[00:18:40] Dmitry Lukyanov, the head of the company we originally
[00:18:43] contacted for the move, he is registered at this house, but according
[00:18:47] to neighbors, the Lukyanov family has not lived here for a long time, Dmitry
[00:18:50] moved to Moscow many years ago, and for him
[00:18:54] he heard nothing about his son Dmitry, well, they moved to Moscow a long
[00:18:57] time ago, I know, in Moscow, he apparently got married there,
[00:19:01] he has a child, that's all he knows. Locals
[00:19:05] remember Dmitry Lukyanov, though, for a completely different story from those times
[00:19:08] when he was a teenager, he messed up on New Year's
[00:19:12] here in Zelenokon, saying that our square
[00:19:15] was mined, he wasn't even 18 years old yet,
[00:19:19] so after that incident he left, but we are not interested in Lukyanov's
[00:19:23] old stories, but in what is happening now, why his
[00:19:26] surname and the addresses associated with him keep reappearing
[00:19:29] next to companies that deal with cargo transportation, to check this
[00:19:33] connection not just on paper, we decide to conduct... another so-called control
[00:19:38] purchase. We leave an application again, but this time we complicate
[00:19:41] the experiment: at the high-rise building, the movers are met by
[00:19:45] an underage customer. And here we are interested in another
[00:19:48] detail: will they offer her to sign a contract, because they can see
[00:19:51] the client's age perfectly, but even before the movers arrive, we get the first
[00:19:55] clue. The house is located on the territory of a closed residential
[00:19:58] complex and for the car to enter, the guards need
[00:20:01] guest data in advance. We are sent two surnames, both
[00:20:04] already good. So,
[00:20:10] we were not waiting in vain, the movers arrive, this
[00:20:14] time they don't even offer the customer a contract,
[00:20:16] but they start calculating the cost of the move right
[00:20:20] on the spot, yes, we have two movers, minimum, car
[00:20:23] minimum delivery will be around 18 thousand,
[00:20:27] we ask directly, which company do you work for, Leader
[00:20:30] Finance or Translogic, why do the same people
[00:20:33] appear in applications from different companies and what kind of contract, what?
[00:20:43] But you, we ordered a move with Leader Finance, I got an application
[00:20:47] from Avito yesterday, wait.
[00:20:55] The answers become more and more confusing, Troitsky now assures that he works
[00:20:59] as a private individual, and the companies that accept orders allegedly
[00:21:03] simply transfer, or as he himself says, resell clients to him,
[00:21:06] they resold the application to me, I give them 10% of the application, that is,
[00:21:10] I kick back, close guys, there are my 3-4, that is,
[00:21:14] we place an order with one company, according to Troitsky,
[00:21:17] a private individual comes, in the documents another one appears... Only
[00:21:24] we can't talk to him, the person we are trying
[00:21:27] to identify as Bayramov does not get out of the car, those inside
[00:21:30] claim that there is no Ruslan Bayramov here. Well, your
[00:21:34] contract, Translogic,
[00:21:38] founder Bayramov Ruslan, Ismail
[00:21:40] ogly.
[00:21:43] Well, are any of you Ruslan Bayramov? No, there are no such people, I say, well, how
[00:21:46] can there not be, just like that. In the end, Troitsky has to
[00:21:50] answer our questions, we ask directly what
[00:21:53] connection he has to Leader Finance, and here the categoricalness
[00:21:57] gradually disappears, you work with Leader Finance, right, well, you have
[00:22:01] a power of attorney, I mean, sometimes we cross paths, then
[00:22:04] we name another surname, Dmitry Lukyanov, and
[00:22:07] the founder, Leader Finance, Dmitry Lukyanov, well, it's clear that
[00:22:10] you won't tell us that now, but nevertheless, you're like, well, you're his
[00:22:14] comrade, you could say already, you've crossed paths.
[00:22:18] we are interested not only in the connections between these people, there is a question, much
[00:22:22] more important, why after such moves clients receive bills
[00:22:25] that are many times higher than the initially stated price,
[00:22:28] we ask bluntly, why do you deceive people, why do you deceive, well,
[00:22:32] you inflate prices, look, each of your cargo transportation is a conflict, well, I wouldn't
[00:22:35] say so, well, I've been driving around private individuals for the third day now, everything
[00:22:39] is fine, they arrange it right away, that's what the customers themselves
[00:22:43] say, there's no crime here,
[00:22:47] no crime. This is
[00:22:50] extortion, there's no extortion either, it's your right to pay or not to pay, I'm
[00:22:54] not forcing you, I'm on a salary, you're threatening that you'll take the things,
[00:22:57] I'm not threatening, I'm explaining to you according to the regulations,
[00:23:01] you can refuse, I'll bring the things back to the address, then you'll sue,
[00:23:05] deal with ours, Troitsky's position is clear, in
[00:23:08] our case it didn't come to that, after a long conversation the movers
[00:23:12] still take out the things, get in the car
[00:23:15] and leave, at this our experiment ends, but
[00:23:18] the main question remains: Where do the amounts come from
[00:23:22] that multiply several times after a move? In the final part
[00:23:25] of the program, what to do if the movers have already taken your belongings and demand
[00:23:29] more money, and what documents and evidence will help to
[00:23:33] return property later through
[00:23:34] court?
[00:23:38] They probably shot from here, then we will
[00:23:41] understand who shot, well, if on the button
[00:23:44] there's a brush, Oh, mommy,
[00:23:47] get me this Sobolev.
[00:23:52] Run away, I've given up, can I stay with
[00:23:54] you?
[00:23:57] Tverskaya, Tverskoye Internal Affairs Department, Major
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[00:24:02] 10:15 PM,
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[00:28:21] case, the movers were assessing not only the amount of work, but also
[00:28:25] the contents of the boxes. The man collects Egyptian
[00:28:28] statuettes, one careless phrase - and the carriers learned that
[00:28:32] inside was something valuable, one of the employees
[00:28:35] noticed this, asked what it was, I said, these are ancient Egyptian
[00:28:39] statuettes that I collect, he then looked, helped wrap the boxes,
[00:28:42] we took everything away, I said, thank you very much, I give him the amount, he says,
[00:28:46] but unfortunately we will have to reconsider the terms, because in
[00:28:50] the composition of these
[00:28:52] packages were valuable items, I
[00:28:56] say, well, logically you didn't know about this, you
[00:28:59] could have just taken the card. I didn't argue, I paid the full amount of 80 thousand rubles, but not everyone in such a situation
[00:29:13] will have tens of thousands of extra money, so what to do if
[00:29:16] the move has already started, and the price suddenly increased, first - do not
[00:29:20] give away documents and do not sign papers without reading them
[00:29:23] completely, such a contract should not be signed, because naturally
[00:29:26] the price may increase to an unknown amount, that is...
[00:29:30] it can be absolutely any amount that
[00:29:34] comes into the scammer's mind. And one more thing: if things
[00:29:37] are being held or an amount is being demanded that was not previously mentioned,
[00:29:40] record what is happening on video and contact the police, and then
[00:29:44] keep the documents and go to court. Tatyana, whose things were taken away,
[00:29:47] did exactly that. She printed all
[00:29:51] the SMS messages, all the calls, yes, all, all of this
[00:29:54] I printed and
[00:29:57] filed a lawsuit. I sued for 500,000.
[00:30:01] Won 300 from a closed van, Tatyana managed to take
[00:30:04] only one thing - a goldfish, all other property, according to
[00:30:08] her, the carriers never returned, let them burn
[00:30:11] in hell, what else can I say,
[00:30:14] I hope that you will catch
[00:30:18] the scammers, they will be imprisoned, and they will pay
[00:30:21] compensation to all people whose belongings they stole, whom
[00:30:23] they let down.
[00:30:26] A move starts with a simple call, a few thousand rubles, a couple
[00:30:29] of movers, a car, it seems that what could possibly go wrong? But when the things
[00:30:33] are already inside the van, the rules of the game can suddenly change,
[00:30:36] then the dispute is not only about money, but about your own property, so
[00:30:40] the main thing is not to rush, read the contract before signing, fix
[00:30:44] the price in advance, save correspondence and recordings of conversations with
[00:30:47] the dispatcher, and if the conditions suddenly change, do
[00:30:50] not forget to video record what is happening and immediately contact the police, because
[00:30:54] a move that initially seems cheap, can end up
[00:30:57] costing a pretty penny, take care of yourself and your
[00:31:00] belongings.
[00:31:21] Good evening, my name is Vadim Takminyov, it's exactly
[00:31:25] 7 PM in Moscow, well, and today is October 10th, the day
[00:31:29] when NTV television company turns 33
[00:31:32] years old, congratulations to all of us.
[00:31:35] Well, live, as always at this time, Central Television, the first
[00:31:39] an informational show about events that are being discussed and people
[00:31:42] who are being talked about, and soon. Now, of course, we will have something
[00:31:46] to tell
[00:31:47] you.
[00:31:51] Neutrality instead of NATO, the first call from Kyiv that could
[00:31:55] change everything. Has the world become addicted to crime?
[00:31:58] How real crimes on TV became a new
[00:32:01] religion? Neural network with a scythe. Why
[00:32:05] free medical advice from artificial intelligence could
[00:32:08] be the last thing you hear in your life? The collapse of
[00:32:12] the European dream. Why pensioners and students staged a riot
[00:32:16] in Europe, and also Nikolai Baskov without
[00:32:20] a mask, what secret is he hiding from millions of fans,
[00:32:23] why this Saturday in the studio of central television live
[00:32:27] he will for the first time be out of his
[00:32:29] element?
[00:32:38] Well, we immediately start with news that may change a lot
[00:32:41] in the strategic alignment of forces in the world... Russian
[00:32:47] diesel returns to the world market. The US lifted sanctions on
[00:32:51] our fuel after a telephone conversation between Vladimir Putin and Donald
[00:32:54] Trump. The conversation took place late last night,
[00:32:58] and today all world media are discussing this telephone
[00:33:01] call. Well, all the details, as always, will be told by Yulia Bekhtereva, who
[00:33:05] very carefully follows the news of this
[00:33:08] day. Vadim, as reported by the assistant to the President
[00:33:11] of Russia, Ushakov, the initiative of this telephone
[00:34:15] President said that Vladimir Putin understood some proposals from the American side
[00:34:19] aimed at de-escalating
[00:34:22] the conflict in Ukraine. The Russian leader also conveyed
[00:34:26] to Donald Trump a proposal from the Iranian side for a possible
[00:34:29] resolution of the conflict in the Middle East. Well,
[00:34:33] and yes, besides the Ukrainian crisis and the crisis in the Middle East, the leaders
[00:34:37] of Russia and the US discussed the situation in world energy. As a result,
[00:34:40] a statement appeared on the Kremlin website that Russia
[00:34:43] is ready to supply oil to the American world market.
[00:34:47] Vladimir Putin expressed confidence that this would positively
[00:34:50] affect the global
[00:34:52] economy.
[00:34:54] Well, Zelensky, of course, has already called the easing of anti-Russian
[00:34:58] sanctions playing into the hands of the Kremlin, stating that
[00:35:01] allowing the sale of Russian energy resources means
[00:35:04] investing in war. Kyiv was so offended by Trump
[00:35:08] that it even decided on a démarche. The Ukrainian
[00:35:11] delegation, which was in the US these days, prematurely.