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[00:00:01] media in universities and government colleges because we have
[00:00:05] or a minute, they earn, I don't know how many full belief that the start from university is not from university,
[00:00:08] it is better from school and then from university, and therefore the person
[00:00:12] enters the job market ready and the path is available
[00:00:15] to him and he can take it.
[00:00:19] So this coordination we started with other government agencies
[00:00:22] and God willing, during the coming period there will be more intensive
[00:00:26] media efforts, God willing, also Mr. Omar,
[00:00:31] excuse me, we must take into account that young people have
[00:00:35] changed the way they communicate with them or receive information in different
[00:00:40] skills, and these skills are acquired over ways. For example, today someone tells you, "I only know through
[00:00:42] social media," and someone else tells you, "No, you have to give me a lecture so
[00:00:46] I understand," or a seminar or a workshop. So the matter
[00:00:49] I think is subject to discussion in many government institutions today,
[00:00:53] that you said young people use social media. We
[00:00:57] created accounts, we created special pages for programs
[00:01:00] and so on to deliver the information, but perhaps there is
[00:01:05] also has a response to this a missing link. The authorities say, "We did what we had to do," and young people
[00:01:08] say, "We didn't receive it, we browse
[00:01:10] choices? First, failure in and so on, for example." Today you follow
[00:01:13] their account or page,
[00:01:15] and indeed, we sat with a large group of but the information
[00:01:17] so far, honestly,
[00:01:20] failure is part of Mr. Omar, we now have two experiences and the information
[00:01:22] is almost
[00:01:24] non-existent, it hasn't reached. So there are many recipients who
[00:01:28] haven't received the information. Your criticism, where
[00:01:30] is the flaw? Where is the flaw? I believe
[00:01:34] that first of all,
[00:01:38] our journey, when we promote through
[00:01:41] it contributes to this our journey, of course, we took it out of
[00:01:42] person not experiencing significant its governmental aspect
[00:01:44] financial pressure from this amount, completely. It is from young people to young people who
[00:01:48] has ended. So at the end of this are actually managing the account. They
[00:01:49] is part of are freelancers, independent young people who build the content based on
[00:01:53] what we have in the system. So if you browse
[00:01:57] your safety. the account today, you will find that message for young people, it is impossible to say this is a government
[00:02:00] account at all. It is a very simple account
[00:02:05] work, but I have benefited a lot from cannot comprehend that this person once that delivers the information to the largest possible group
[00:02:08] of young people. This is one aspect, but as the sister mentioned,
[00:02:13] this level?" Even though social media is not the only place through which we can promote. We may
[00:02:17] need to intensify workshops
[00:02:19] with students in universities and colleges,
[00:02:24] in addition to the fact that there is another aspect also in lectures and so on. We may even need to cooperate with
[00:02:27] learn how to continue in university administrations and colleges separately,
[00:02:30] so that
[00:02:34] receive there is even
[00:02:34] I have advice for young people and a request from a part of the curriculum and academic curriculum for these students,
[00:02:38] which is the freelance work system. Excellent.
[00:02:41] We have a direct question
[00:02:43] starting from after your presence for years in your
[00:02:47] private project for freelance work, financial independence
[00:02:50] in this project. Is it stable or
[00:02:54] fluctuating? Which is more stable or
[00:02:57] you are tired of fluctuating? Of course, at the beginning of any project,
[00:03:02] to have in it must fluctuate, it is impossible to reach a stage of stability.
[00:03:04] I faced many problems until
[00:03:08] I started, and I still haven't reached the stage
[00:03:10] means. of stability, and I tell you that it's been seven years since I started
[00:03:12] my project, but
[00:03:16] the idea I learned is that we don't
[00:03:18] just take, for example, I used to offer only embroidery products.
[00:03:22] Well, embroidery products sometimes take two days, sometimes
[00:03:26] two months, and the cost is not high. So what
[00:03:29] I am afraid to enter, I am afraid to lose I learned and entered consulting programs,
[00:03:31] and these are the things that we benefited a lot from. Consulting programs, I entered the
[00:03:35] Sidra program, and it was a consulting
[00:03:39] will I continue on the program, and it
[00:03:40] right was the one that made a big change
[00:03:44] from what it was to what it is now. I used to offer
[00:03:46] only products, and now I do embroidery workshops. So I can
[00:03:50] change the way I present my product and diversify the methods,
[00:03:54] not just stick to one method, I make
[00:03:57] of employment in the coming
[00:03:57] in my pocket or zero on scientific thinking and dealing with multiple methods. And in this way,
[00:04:00] I can ensure that financial stability is
[00:04:04] constant. So this is what I'm working on. Clear.
[00:04:07] We'll get back to you, but let's stay with Mr. Omar for a bit. Mr. Omar,
[00:04:11] you mentioned at the beginning of your speech about
[00:04:14] the programs that your
[00:04:17] institution offers, which is the concerned body for freelancers.
[00:04:20] You are talking about the National
[00:04:22] Farraj go with Employment Program. Today, how much do these programs
[00:04:26] touch reality? We know freelancers barely
[00:04:30] work one season in a year, for example. For example, makeup artists
[00:04:35] and creativity and display it even on during wedding seasons, for example, and tourist guides, some of them, for example, during
[00:04:38] the tourist season, Hajj and Umrah campaigns
[00:04:41] the wife of this during their religious seasons as well. indeed, they are helping electronic stores that have facilitated So how can
[00:04:44] you oblige them today, for example, idiot, this
[00:04:46] Many to register in the Social Protection Fund
[00:04:49] and pay, for example, monthly allocations when their work is seasonal?
[00:04:52] I mean, the idea itself is beautiful,
[00:04:56] but perhaps the application needs to change. For example, it needs to consider
[00:04:59] the nature of freelance work, which has no
[00:05:04] through which fraud stability at all. We can describe it that way. It is true, the nature
[00:05:06] of freelance work, as you mentioned, is
[00:05:10] project. The platform relies on seasonal in many
[00:05:13] cases. Freelance work fluctuates
[00:05:16] in terms of income. Today you might get a large
[00:05:20] amount, and tomorrow you might not get anything at all. It is
[00:05:24] a process of managing the system that
[00:05:27] is very important for the freelancer.
[00:05:30] When
[00:05:33] we say freelancer, maybe before I talk, the sister will talk about
[00:05:36] this topic.
[00:05:39] Freelance work is a set of skills. Among these skills are
[00:05:44] marketing skills, sales skills,
[00:05:47] skills related to business development and so on. It is a set of
[00:05:52] time. One of these skills, and the most important of these skills, is financial management
[00:05:56] of income.
[00:05:59] A freelancer, we always calculate their hourly
[00:06:02] rate. This is a global practice, not just at the local
[00:06:06] level, but the general income, we look at the income at the end
[00:06:09] of the year. This person earns this at the end
[00:06:13] of the year. Okay, how is this amount distributed over the rest
[00:06:17] of the year? I think it's all related to administrative
[00:06:20] aspects. However, on the other hand, we
[00:06:24] have faced this challenge,
[00:06:27] young people, and this challenge exists.
[00:06:30] And now we are presenting or will present
[00:06:33] more significantly a set of
[00:06:36] incentives through the Ministry of Labor that are related
[00:06:40] to supporting this group of young people, so that the Ministry
[00:06:43] of Labor will cover some of these subscriptions
[00:06:46] for a certain period.
[00:06:49] So therefore,
[00:06:57] knowing that the amount paid through social protection is the lowest amount
[00:07:00] that can be paid, which is a small amount of 5 and a half riyals monthly, so it is
[00:07:04] about 65 riyals
[00:07:07] annually. So these packages exist,
[00:07:10] these challenges have been identified, and indeed they exist,
[00:07:14] and we are working on developing products that suit
[00:07:17] this, these challenges. Excellent.
[00:07:21] Mr. Omar, you must have dealt with a group of young people, and you are
[00:07:24] of course in the National Center for Employment. What is the Omani
[00:07:27] youth's concept of freelance work? Are they
[00:07:30] looking for quick success or
[00:07:33] high income directly, or are they looking for
[00:07:36] something else? Freelance work
[00:07:39] and I'll answer.
[00:07:42] No, freelance work is the opposite of what you said entirely. It's not quick
[00:07:45] success, it's not high income at all. Young people are aware
[00:07:48] of that now. Freelance work
[00:07:52] has two fundamental principles or
[00:07:55] two fundamental factors. The first is reputation,
[00:07:58] and the second is skill or the quality of the skill you offer. The quality
[00:08:02] of the skill is accumulated experience, it's not something that happens overnight.
[00:08:05] A person cannot say that I am a professional or I am skilled
[00:08:09] overnight. No, it takes months and sometimes seven years
[00:08:20] to build a reputation. So this experience, in addition to
[00:08:23] reputation, is what increases
[00:08:26] the number of clients you have or your client base.
[00:08:30] So it's completely the opposite. Freelance work is not an easy
[00:08:33] path at all. It depends
[00:08:37] directly on self-commitment to developing the skills
[00:08:40] you possess as a person. It is
[00:08:44] not a path
[00:08:46] similar to or an alternative to a traditional job. These are two completely separate
[00:08:50] paths. In a traditional job, the path for a person is clear,
[00:08:54] that in five years, where will I be, and in ten years, where will I be.
[00:08:57] Freelance work is completely different. Freelance work depends on the effort
[00:09:01] you put in, the number of hours you put in,
[00:09:04] and also depends on continuous development of the skills you possess
[00:09:07] as a person. Excellent. Juhaina,
[00:09:11] freelance work can indeed be an alternative to a traditional
[00:09:14] job, but if Juhaina was offered a job at the present
[00:09:18] time in exchange for leaving freelance work after seven
[00:09:21] years, what would you choose?
[00:09:25] Uh, well, I'll tell you my opinion, for example, with all
[00:09:28] honesty. Yes, in any project,
[00:09:31] you need, the more you want your project to develop more,
[00:09:35] it needs capital
[00:09:38] more. So I know that this work needs
[00:09:42] this, for example, this thing needs money, I, for example, don't want
[00:09:46] to go, for example, take loans with interest or
[00:09:49] take things like that. So what I want
[00:09:53] is a job. I want to go to a job
[00:09:55] so that I make sure that it has reached
[00:09:59] a stage where it is self-sufficient. Excellent, and freelance work
[00:10:02] will complement your job. Yes,
[00:10:06] so that I see that my project is stable and consistent
[00:10:09] and brings me the income I want, then I can
[00:10:12] Excellent, excellent. Yes. Today, the discussion about freelance
[00:10:16] work, I think, is a passionate
[00:10:19] one, because we have seen many success stories,
[00:10:23] especially in creative fields or digital fields.
[00:10:27] For example, those working or interested
[00:10:30] in visual designs, for example, or people
[00:10:33] working in photography or editing, and the Ministry of Information, the Ministry
[00:10:37] of Information has a unique experience also in adopting this segment of people.
[00:10:41] So content creation is also a promising field, and
[00:10:44] there are people who work by the second, their calculation is by the second.
[00:10:48] And they have become, their work has exceeded
[00:10:51] the borders of the homeland and has extended to global reach also through cooperation.
[00:10:55] And also today, a person who is just a logo designer sells these
[00:10:59] logos globally also through some of the international platforms available.
[00:11:03] So there are success stories, but
[00:11:06] what we should not overlook, Fatiha, and also the dear viewers
[00:11:10] and our esteemed guests, is that there are experiences of failure or experiences
[00:11:13] that failed in freelance work or independent work. I will
[00:11:17] ask Sheikha now, what
[00:11:19] is the extended psychological impact
[00:11:23] as a result of the failure of a freelance work experience, especially
[00:11:26] from what you have seen among Omani youth? How did this affect
[00:11:30] their self-confidence or even their future
[00:11:35] freelance work, the person who feels
[00:11:38] this pain the most is the person himself. Why? Because
[00:11:42] he has no one to blame. He can't say,
[00:11:45] "My manager didn't give me the right decision," or "My team didn't
[00:11:49] work." You are the first and last person responsible for this
[00:11:53] work. So the most pain he feels
[00:11:55] is the business owner himself. He is the one who works in it.
[00:11:59] So here we have a we can say a difficult
[00:12:03] curve or turning point
[00:12:06] for the person if he is not truly aware. He might say, "I won't
[00:12:09] repeat this experience, and I failed and cannot succeed
[00:12:13] again, and I cannot repeat this experience, and I will
[00:12:17] go look for any job anywhere, even if its salary is less than what
[00:12:20] he was earning in freelance work by multiples." Withdrawal is the
[00:12:24] easier option. Complete withdrawal to the point that you
[00:12:29] worked freelance. You would say, "How
[00:12:33] could he have worked freelance if with the first setback he reached
[00:12:38] we, before entering freelance work, are
[00:12:41] sure that the first step you will pass through before
[00:12:45] succeeding is that you will fail. And this
[00:12:48] failure is not a bad thing. This failure will
[00:12:51] teach you an experience, whether you didn't manage your time or
[00:12:55] didn't have the right skill. Or perhaps today we see
[00:12:58] that the Omani market is full of creativity.
[00:13:02] Every entity offers you, mashallah, brilliant
[00:13:05] minds and innovative products or services.
[00:13:08] So today, when you want to enter the freelance
[00:13:11] market, you must have something innovative or something
[00:13:15] that distinguishes you from others. So were these things taken into
[00:13:18] account? You find that with the first setback, he says no.
[00:13:21] And honestly, I want Mr.
[00:13:25] Omar to adopt the failures of Omani
[00:13:28] youth and provide them with a solution. First, from the
[00:13:32] beginning, study what is the cause of this person's failure. Yes.
[00:13:36] What do you think if we continue this enjoyable discussion and this point specifically, God willing,
[00:13:39] but let's watch this video about the obstacles to freelance
[00:13:42] work in the Sultanate of Oman. First
[00:13:46] thing is fear. He is afraid to enter a new
[00:13:49] experience. For example, I have 3,000 or 5,000.
[00:13:54] this amount. I collected it over 10 years. And the second
[00:13:57] thing is there is no awareness. He has no awareness that
[00:14:01] if I open this door,
[00:14:05] path or not? The third thing is that he mixes with negative
[00:14:09] people, a lot of negative energy. I contact this person, he
[00:14:12] lost. I contact this person, he lost. The energy accumulates,
[00:14:15] and I think, "Should I keep the money in my pocket or
[00:14:19] should I risk it?" Three
[00:14:22] the left. I should ask more than
[00:14:25] one person. I look for someone who has positive energy. I sit with them. A smart
[00:14:29] person or a person who has good business does not choose negative people.
[00:14:32] I mingle with people, I set aside one day from my time to walk
[00:14:36] with a successful person. I benefit from them, even if it's for money.
[00:14:39] I am willing, as Jaifar, I am willing to pay money to sit with a successful
[00:14:43] person. Why? Because their time is not free. The experience
[00:14:47] they have for 20 years teaches them how to develop their skills. So I buy the time
[00:14:51] they have so that I learn how to utilize my time, how not to be afraid.
[00:14:55] How to develop my energies and gain new knowledge from them, because
[00:14:58] they have experienced this. They were in my place, and then they became
[00:15:02] better, and I can be like them. There is no difference between me
[00:15:05] and them. The important thing is that I am not afraid and I try, but
[00:15:08] I have to do a study. ideas start with great
[00:15:12] enthusiasm, but the real problem is not the existence of the idea, but rather knowing
[00:15:16] the right path to turn it into a successful project. And here came the idea
[00:15:20] of Tadreej. It is not just a digital platform, but a smart journey
[00:15:23] that accompanies the user step by step. The platform's identity
[00:15:27] is based on the concept that success does not happen all at
[00:15:30] once, but happens gradually from a simple idea to a complete
[00:15:35] artificial intelligence to create a customized roadmap
[00:15:39] based on the project idea, and divides the user's journey into
[00:15:42] clear and organized stages that include goals, tasks,
[00:15:46] and appropriate recommendations for each stage. The platform also offers
[00:15:49] an opportunity for business owners to showcase their services to help
[00:15:53] the user in their journey, in addition to suggesting the most important free
[00:15:57] and paid lessons based on each stage. And the most important point
[00:16:01] finally, Tadreej platform will be the link between aspiring entrepreneurs
[00:16:05] and government and private
[00:16:07] institutions.
[00:16:12] Definitely, the discussion continues about
[00:16:15] Omani youth and their concept of freelance work in the Youth Talk
[00:16:19] program. Ms. Shaikha, you had a comment earlier
[00:16:23] about dealing with cases of setback
[00:16:27] that Omani youth face in freelance work.
[00:16:30] And you reminded me of an Omani proverb that says, "He who does not
[00:16:33] fall gets lost," because falling can sometimes
[00:16:37] be an experience to success. Certainly, Mr. Omar
[00:16:42] issue, and we are talking about the setbacks
[00:16:45] of Omani youth in freelance work. Where does the problem lie, and how
[00:16:48] do you help them after this experience that can even affect them
[00:16:52] psychologically? True, it is as
[00:16:54] you mentioned,
[00:16:58] the experience.
[00:17:00] The person only needs the necessary
[00:17:04] training to prepare them to enter
[00:17:08] the freelance work system. We have trained a large number of individuals over the past
[00:17:12] years. Also, there are other programs through other government entities
[00:17:15] such as the Youth Center that have adopted a number of programs that
[00:17:19] support freelancers.
[00:17:21] Failure, as we
[00:17:23] agreed, I think,
[00:17:26] the experience. The person only
[00:17:29] needs the necessary training.
[00:17:33] They need a training program that teaches them how to deal with
[00:17:36] this type of
[00:17:40] challenges. Once
[00:17:42] they master it and understand
[00:17:45] and grasp the idea behind
[00:17:48] the freelance work system, not just at the local level, but even at the global level, then they
[00:17:52] will be psychologically ready for this
[00:17:55] type of, or even simple guidance. Exactly,
[00:18:01] universities and colleges that must adopt this type
[00:18:04] of training.
[00:18:08] The person in their studies must
[00:18:11] the necessary training
[00:18:14] to face such challenges. Also,
[00:18:18] if I may add something as someone who worked freelance,
[00:18:21] sometimes we face obstacles or during
[00:18:25] the work period, the thing that helped me, as Juhaina, for example, is to
[00:18:29] find the right people to consult. Many
[00:18:33] people don't find this, they don't find people to consult at these
[00:18:36] times. So it's good
[00:18:39] your work entity certain people we can
[00:18:42] consult, whether by phone or by any other
[00:18:47] Excellent. Indeed,
[00:18:51] the conversation is enjoyable with you, especially
[00:18:54] on a very interesting topic, the concept of freelance work. I don't know if Haitham
[00:18:58] is thinking about it in the future. Honestly,
[00:19:01] I have experienced freelance work, as I am a worker in the media field, which is
[00:19:05] a creative and artistic field.
[00:19:08] I had experiences in voice acting and photography, even before I
[00:19:12] became a broadcaster. Excellent. So before the job, and I used to
[00:19:15] earn, and I say it now live, I sometimes earned more than
[00:19:19] what I earned in one month from my salary. This is a benefit
[00:19:22] of learning skills. Today, if
[00:19:26] you notice, the concept of future skills has spread,
[00:19:29] indeed, creative skills that involve
[00:19:32] modern technologies and devices. So I expect
[00:19:35] that in the future, it is indeed possible that
[00:19:39] the number of freelancers will be more than
[00:19:42] employees, and this is, I think, a trend in
[00:19:46] European countries now. In some European countries, the number
[00:19:49] of employees is limited, while the number of freelancers has become
[00:19:53] more than the number of employees. And if you agree with me, perhaps you
[00:19:56] have also seen experiences in your fields, even in the field of tailoring, we see,
[00:20:00] for example, some experiences from America or Western countries also, or even Eastern
[00:20:03] countries, people who are freelancers, not affiliated with any
[00:20:07] institution, not affiliated with any company, but they offer their work
[00:20:14] this matter today. So
[00:20:17] in the field and have a name for themselves, even though they are one
[00:20:20] person working, not part of a team. Yes,
[00:20:24] we can say, Haitham, that with the click of a button, I can
[00:20:28] earn money and earn profits behind
[00:20:30] screens, behind projects that come from
[00:20:33] skill. This is a bit scary, this click of a button
[00:20:37] is scary. This is the entry point
[00:20:41] enters. It is up to the individual's awareness, isn't it,
[00:20:45] Ms. Shaikha? Indeed, there are people who are freelancers
[00:20:48] in the same situation as us now, in front of a smartphone
[00:20:52] screen, and perhaps in a second
[00:20:55] riyals. They might even be asleep, and their stocks
[00:20:59] are rising. They earn more than a person who is awake and working
[00:21:02] a normal shift, completely stuck in traffic. There is
[00:21:06] a freelance platform called Upwork. This
[00:21:09] is an American platform. The number
[00:21:12] of freelancers on this platform reaches 20 million people.
[00:21:16] The number of opportunities is 3 million opportunities. And indeed, it's a click of a button.
[00:21:20] You go to this platform and post the opportunity
[00:21:23] you need or the work you need. Thousands
[00:21:26] of people apply
[00:21:28] for this opportunity. They trade almost more than a billion
[00:21:32] dollars annually through this platform. We are talking about scary
[00:21:36] numbers. Yes, in general, freelance work
[00:21:39] today, we are talking about 47% of human resources
[00:21:42] worldwide are freelancers. 47%. We are talking about half of the workers
[00:21:46] worldwide. Yes, absolutely, and this percentage
[00:21:50] truly makes us think why the world is heading
[00:21:54] towards this field, what changes have
[00:21:57] occurred? Therefore, we can conclude that there have indeed been
[00:22:01] radical economic changes occurring, which is why
[00:22:04] governments have adopted systems like freelance
[00:22:08] work systems.
[00:22:11] The numbers are very large.
[00:22:14] Freelance work has become a complete economic system. Freelance
[00:22:17] work platforms have become a complete economic system, called the Gig
[00:22:20] Economy, or the freelance platforms economy. The size
[00:22:23] of the economy is more than approximately
[00:22:27] more than 500 billion dollars annually. Omar, the numbers are very
[00:22:31] important and the discussion is very interesting, but our director Salem Jaaboub says
[00:22:34] that the program time
[00:22:38] interesting, beneficial and enriching discussion with you, I would like to hear
[00:22:41] from you a final
[00:22:45] not exceeding 15 seconds. Let's start with
[00:22:48] Juhaina. I just want to clarify that
[00:22:51] yes, we are moving towards freelance
[00:22:55] various places. I have trained in more than one institution, perhaps
[00:22:58] more than 10 institutions in Oman. But
[00:23:02] the institution teaches you discipline and teaches you continuity.
[00:23:05] So I benefited from it for my freelance work. I won't say that
[00:23:09] freelance work is a good project, but at
[00:23:11] the beginning, at the beginning, it's very important to be humble so you can
[00:23:17] your work. Allow me to steal 30 seconds from you. Go ahead.
[00:23:20] Briefly, because
[00:23:24] the concerned authorities. Go ahead. I'll start with the request to the concerned authorities.
[00:23:28] We need an incubating environment for freelance work,
[00:23:33] guidance and practical training and real
[00:23:37] opportunities, from the lowest requirement to the highest.
[00:23:41] This is the first request to the concerned authority. As for the youth, I would like to offer
[00:23:44] them advice. I know that
[00:23:47] embellished words and idealistic
[00:23:50] talk. I offer you today a message from my heart,
[00:23:53] and I am sure it will reach your hearts through
[00:23:57] the Youth Talk program, that each
[00:24:00] of us, I mean, who is in this
[00:24:04] world, has a certain skill. Believe
[00:24:07] in yourself, believe in the skill you have, work on it, and as soon
[00:24:11] as you believe in yourself, everyone will believe in you. But no one will
[00:24:14] believe in you if you don't discover it. May God bless you. Mr.
[00:24:17] Omar. I
[00:24:25] think the most important thing is that today we accept different
[00:24:28] and varied opinions, and this is the idea of this table and the
[00:24:32] Youth Talk program, Fatiha. Indeed, Haitham, it is certainly a transparent
[00:24:35] discussion, and thanks to the guests of our episode today,
[00:24:39] Omani youth and the concept of freelance work, and certainly freelance work
[00:24:43] may be the future
[00:24:47] years. Jobs will disappear.
[00:24:50] And they will disappear due to freelance work. Even
[00:24:53] our jobs may disappear. These are expectations. No, they have already started to disappear.
[00:24:57] Come with us and let's work in groups. We,
[00:25:00] of course, conclude with you, our listeners and viewers,
[00:25:04] and our followers on Oman TV to the end of this episode
[00:25:08] of Youth Talk, but always
[00:25:11] and forever, youth discussions continue and extend, and the biggest
[00:25:15] challenge remains the maturity and awareness of youth and their knowledge
[00:25:18] of their issues and various
[00:25:20] interests. We will meet you, God willing, in future appointments, and until then,
[00:25:24] be well. Goodbye. Goodbye, in God's care.