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[00:00:00] call it as an Iran proxy, which I personally would
[00:00:03] not, I think Iran will at some point
[00:00:07] try to
[00:00:09] of revitalize the acts of resistance
[00:00:11] in a sense, but it's gonna be very, very difficult for the Islamic
[00:00:15] Republic of Iran, hence I
[00:00:17] in definitely agree with Dr. Hilani that
[00:00:20] of hence Iran pays a lot of attention to the stread of
[00:00:23] Furmus, as a by gaining chip yes, but at the same
[00:00:27] time I think as a part of its national security
[00:00:31] from this time on we will be
[00:00:33] of hearing more and more from the iran
[00:00:37] of authorities each and
[00:00:38] of every crisis, we have been hearing that in the past as well, but
[00:00:42] Iran had never
[00:00:43] of weaponized so to speak this real moves to this point, so now
[00:00:47] Iran has tried that, tested that and
[00:00:51] in successfully did that, and I am sure Iran is going to use that in the future as well,
[00:00:55] so I think we should be focusing on mus more and more
[00:00:59] of and I think... international community will not lead let
[00:01:02] the stero formus, the the fate
[00:01:05] of the formus
[00:01:07] of to of Iran of alone, because we we we have seen how can it hurt the
[00:01:11] international economy and how it can it hurt the
[00:01:15] flow of energy from the middle east to the rest
[00:01:17] of the world, but when it comes to the relationship between Iran and
[00:01:21] its neighbors especially in the golf region and also beyond,
[00:01:24] of because there is also I think very deep crisis
[00:01:28] which is not sufficiently. at the best, I think between Iran and
[00:01:32] Jordan, there is huge crisis going on between these two
[00:01:35] states, but actually the real crisis
[00:01:38] a is in happening between Iran and its neighbors in the Gulf
[00:01:41] region, starting with Kuwait, definitely, and then you
[00:01:45] can name each and every one
[00:01:46] of them, including Saudi Arabia, when we talk to the
[00:01:50] of Iranians in different conferences,
[00:01:53] of symposiums or other meetings, they have
[00:01:56] very visible
[00:01:59] of self-confidence for maybe understand the reasons, I think they have
[00:02:02] shown impressive resilience against the United States
[00:02:06] and Israel, that's definitely the case, but same time when
[00:02:10] it comes to their
[00:02:11] of rhetoric, a then they approach to their neighbors, it's not
[00:02:15] of necessarily favorable, and it's not necessarily friendly, and Iran
[00:02:19] hurt these countries for one reason or the other, if you ask the
[00:02:23] Iranians, they can legitimize every move that they have put
[00:02:26] into operation from February. 28
[00:02:30] onward, but if you look at it from
[00:02:32] the other side, I mean what they feel is
[00:02:36] a resentment, because they, I mean, they lost their prestige, for example,
[00:02:40] Dubai,
[00:02:41] of United,
[00:02:42] of Arab Emirates, Qatar, even Oman was here at some point, so
[00:02:46] I think Iran will have incredible difficulties
[00:02:49] rehabilitating its relations with its neighbors in the gulf, not that
[00:02:53] Iran will be excluded from the balance of power in this, which is
[00:02:57] impossible definitely, but Iran is... going to have lot of difficulties and
[00:03:01] I think not each all
[00:03:04] of these states are very interested in in
[00:03:08] quickly rehabilitating their
[00:03:10] of relations
[00:03:11] with with Iran, once this war is over and once we are in the post
[00:03:14] conflict period, I think they are going to watch and see the behavior
[00:03:18] of the Islamic Republic of Iran and they will not act
[00:03:22] civiifly to restore their relations with
[00:03:24] Tehran. Right, thank
[00:03:28] of you a very much professor Zaran for joining. us and being a part
[00:03:31] of the news room
[00:03:32] of today. Dr. Fadi, in your opinion, when looking at what is
[00:03:35] happening in terms of what the
[00:03:38] a US administration has been trying to achieve with
[00:03:41] Iran, especially now with
[00:03:44] of this straight affirmas deal inching closer, what do you think will be
[00:03:48] the way forward that Mr. Trump is going to be announcing and
[00:03:52] in especially in terms of what it is
[00:03:53] a that he can then present to his own public as to what
[00:03:57] it is that the US has achieved so far. what is it is
[00:04:01] aspiring to achieve and what is the strategy in order to
[00:04:05] of achieve that? so far, the Trump
[00:04:08] administration has been mentioning that this
[00:04:12] war has the strategic end
[00:04:15] of of not allowing Iran to have nuclear
[00:04:19] program, nuclear bomb, and of course that
[00:04:22] means we have to negotiate their nuclear program and highly enriched
[00:04:26] uranium, but obviously over the last weeks that the... has
[00:04:30] been uh much talk about
[00:04:32] of another
[00:04:33] of strategic end for this war, which is not allowing Iran to control the
[00:04:37] straight of hermus. this
[00:04:39] of is why it's very likely that the
[00:04:41] of language will hear from President Trump after that agreement comes
[00:04:45] to light is that it doesn't give Iran control over the straight of
[00:04:49] hermooz, but it gives it some kind of control
[00:04:52] over allowing ships
[00:04:54] of to transit through the Iranian
[00:04:58] waterways so that the... be time to
[00:05:01] of clear in the waterway in
[00:05:02] of between Oman and Iran from the mines which the IRGC has
[00:05:06] planted during the war time and there will be talk in
[00:05:10] Washington also that after the 60 days supposedly there will be
[00:05:13] nobody controlling the straight of hermus, obviously the
[00:05:17] Iranians will try to say that this is an interim agreement,
[00:05:21] but after the 60 days there will be some kind of control or
[00:05:24] sovereignty the Iranians will have over the straight of, so I think
[00:05:28] the language will remain a way ambiguous, which will
[00:05:32] give kind of margin for each side to say that
[00:05:36] this agreement represents victory for Washington and even for
[00:05:40] Tehran, but the focus in Washington. is on phase
[00:05:43] two and this is why I mentioned earlier in my comments
[00:05:47] that Washington is moving from
[00:05:51] coersive diplomacy if you will, which we are still having because there is still
[00:05:54] military pressure, but towards another kind of diplomacy which is
[00:05:58] phase diplomacy, meaning that we want to finish with phase number
[00:06:02] two, get the straight of hermus open for international
[00:06:05] navigation and move towards phase number two which is discussing with the
[00:06:09] Iranians their nuclear program and their... enrich
[00:06:13] uranium and that will again be under military pressure,
[00:06:16] because if these negotiations fail, we will be again going
[00:06:20] back to the air campaign and targeting other possibly
[00:06:24] military targets within the Iranian borders.
[00:06:28] in other words, the focus in the coming 60 days will be on what
[00:06:31] President Trump said from the early days of this war, that the
[00:06:35] strategy is to make sure that Iran doesn't
[00:06:38] have nuclear capabilities for military.
[00:06:42] purposes, but this is let's remember, this is again going to be
[00:06:46] very long process, because at the
[00:06:50] end it's not going to be in numbers only, there will be lot of technical
[00:06:54] talks, there will be lot of discussions also on the verification
[00:06:57] measures, it's not only enough to say that this is what Iran is allowed to do
[00:07:01] and what not allowed to do, there should be kind of
[00:07:05] measuring and verification processes and
[00:07:09] that means necessarily that there should be other parties involved.
[00:07:12] "this could be the Europeans, this could be the
[00:07:16] ia, ea for example, and there should be also some kind
[00:07:20] of agreement over if
[00:07:24] Iran doesn't doesn't of course follow
[00:07:28] these agreed upon measures, what are the
[00:07:31] consequences, will we have back economic
[00:07:34] sanctions imposed on Iran, will there be kind of military
[00:07:38] procedures? these are all questions which remain, in my opinion if we
[00:07:42] are successfully moving from phase one straight of
[00:07:46] hermus towards the second phase uh there could be
[00:07:49] possibility of extending possibly the 60 days to other 60 days
[00:07:53] if there is positive signs that these these
[00:07:57] talks are going in the right direction but there is lot of
[00:08:01] of of devil in the details as they say
[00:08:04] and um i think from what i hear from the
[00:08:08] Iranian officials as i mentioned earlier in my comments the straight of
[00:08:12] moves will remain a very much hedging point in all
[00:08:16] these discussions and this will give leverage also to
[00:08:20] the Iranians to prolong the talks regarding the
[00:08:24] nuclear program, and there is an opinion in Iran, let's remember
[00:08:27] this, that this war and these negotiations can
[00:08:31] outlive the US administration, the current
[00:08:35] Trump administration, and that is possibly something Trump will not
[00:08:39] allow to happen, so we may hear at sometimes...
[00:08:42] and see sometimes reverting again to military action, so there is
[00:08:46] lot to wait and see, and I, I, I think again, there
[00:08:50] is divul always in these details. Right, thank you very much
[00:08:54] Dr. Fani for joining us and being a part the news room today,
[00:08:57] there is of course lot of aspects to this discussion moving forward, and
[00:09:01] we're going to be taking a look at that in further detail as the situation
[00:09:05] progresses, and especially in terms of what the agreement between Iran
[00:09:09] and Oman is going to transpire towards, that will be the... because of course
[00:09:13] for another day and next we're going to take a look at what is happening
[00:09:17] as part the very important indus waters treaty and what India has
[00:09:21] held in abeyance? this is very very integral issue for
[00:09:24] Pakistan and something that India cannot do as part the
[00:09:28] treaty and the kind of international legal course that it's taking
[00:09:31] is also validating Pakistan stonce on the matter
[00:09:35] and we're going to be taking closer look at what that means and what are the future options for
[00:09:39] the country for that we've been joined by Dr. Security
[00:09:43] analyst from Karachi. Thank you very much Dr. Hamil for being part the show
[00:09:47] today. I'd like your perspective in terms of what you think will be the next
[00:09:51] steps as part the permanent court of arbitration. We have seen that
[00:09:54] despite India's status and claim of
[00:09:58] holding the treaty an abence which of course it cannot do. We've seen that the
[00:10:02] international momentum is continued. The permanent court of arbitration is also moving
[00:10:06] forward with its work as part the neutral process to. In terms
[00:10:09] of what is happening legally, how do you think that? situation is going
[00:10:13] evolve further if India continues to not
[00:10:16] participate in these legal proceedings and does not provide
[00:10:20] the data that it is being asked to do so. well,
[00:10:24] frankly, speaking, India is on very thin
[00:10:27] eyes, there is nothing in this that goes in favor of
[00:10:31] India so to say, because it is on the wrong side of international
[00:10:35] law and it will also fall on the wrong side of
[00:10:38] history. The only thing that is problematic at this moment
[00:10:42] in time is that India takes an inspiration from
[00:10:46] Israel and India, especially under Modi thinks
[00:10:49] that it can bypass, marginalize
[00:10:53] international norms, but This particular
[00:10:56] treaty, indus water treaty is one the most successful
[00:11:00] confidence building measures or an arrang institutional
[00:11:03] arrangement that has existed between two nuclear
[00:11:07] armed neighbors who are are not in
[00:11:10] very good relationship, we are very India centric in our
[00:11:14] security construct, India is very Pakistan centric in its
[00:11:18] security construct and that is sort of depicted by the
[00:11:22] deployment India does and by military build up
[00:11:26] that it does, so and then did this happen? this happened
[00:11:29] after India used terrorism, the bogi it has
[00:11:33] been using for now 20 years to sort of
[00:11:37] inflict pain on Pakistan, and when it was defeated in the
[00:11:40] sindoor operation, it continued with the so-called
[00:11:44] abiance. now the term abiance does not
[00:11:48] exist in the lingua the treaty
[00:11:50] itself, so there is no
[00:11:54] justification. that India has to carry on with this, but
[00:11:57] more importantly, if this treaty fails
[00:12:01] or collapses, then essentially we are setting
[00:12:05] a very dangerous precedence of
[00:12:09] institutional umbrellas for treaties or how
[00:12:13] treaties will function in the future, and that is why
[00:12:17] I think the timing the way India's behaving is extremely
[00:12:21] critical, and that is why the international pressure must come
[00:12:25] on India to call back this
[00:12:28] abiance on how you think that the treaty will
[00:12:32] actually collapse, you mentioned that that's going to be disaster, but in terms
[00:12:36] the legal protocols and safeguards that are in place as
[00:12:40] part the Indus Waters treaty, how exactly do you think it will collapse of
[00:12:44] India of course completely refuses its international obligations continues to
[00:12:48] act in ways that
[00:12:49] it is already doing so and working towards is there no
[00:12:52] consequence embedded within the system? to
[00:12:55] be able to hold India accountable or stop its actions. I say
[00:12:59] the present global situation is red flag. It
[00:13:03] is how international organizations are being marginalized and
[00:13:07] they are unable to hold states accountable. The whole concept of
[00:13:11] collective security is more diluted today than ever before
[00:13:15] and also the institutional umbrellas because of it, but having
[00:13:18] said this, India needs to realize that Pakistan has
[00:13:22] time and again exercised strategic. and responding to
[00:13:26] India about what it is doing with the water. India has been using water as
[00:13:30] a weapon for Pakistan for years now and Pakistan has
[00:13:33] constantly exercised strategic restraint in
[00:13:37] responding to that, but more recently the military
[00:13:41] leadership of Pakistan has been more categorical. They say the
[00:13:45] lifeline of Pakistan will is touched by India or if
[00:13:49] water is weaponized to point where it hurts Pakistan then Pakistan
[00:13:52] may respond back. in terms which
[00:13:56] you will can be painful for India, so I think that is the
[00:13:59] consequence of this, and moreover can India really afford to go to
[00:14:03] war with Pakistan, hasn't the sindoor operation taught enough lessons,
[00:14:07] has had enough lessons for the Indians, so what they eventually
[00:14:11] do is that they do wars by other means, putting
[00:14:15] the Indian Indus water treaty a biance
[00:14:18] is the Indian attempt of war by other
[00:14:22] means, Pakistan has acted with
[00:14:25] maturity, it has acted, it has exercised strategic
[00:14:29] restraint, but water is something else, water is
[00:14:33] Pakistan's lifeline, and there
[00:14:37] if it continues the way it is, and from saying that
[00:14:41] it is held in abiance, it starts diverting
[00:14:44] Pakistan's, or India is very water stressed
[00:14:48] country, it has designs of irrigating a desert,
[00:14:51] Rajasthan, and all of that has implication for
[00:14:55] Pakistan and India has been trying to get out the treaty for years,
[00:14:59] India has been talking about Indus water treaty to, India is talking about climate
[00:15:03] as a factor which should impact in the water
[00:15:07] flows into Pakistan, so India has been trying to find ways to
[00:15:11] cut water, Pakistan's water or to flood Pakistan,
[00:15:14] does this weaponization of water needs to stop and
[00:15:18] absolutely, I mean it's fairly obvious that
[00:15:22] when India says the treaty is a by. then it's trying to get out
[00:15:26] the treaty, if you look at the clauses the treaty, it is neither time
[00:15:30] specific nor event specific,
[00:15:33] nor government specific, it is between two states,
[00:15:37] by the world bank, if it is not event
[00:15:41] specific, how can use India use
[00:15:44] false flag operation of which it could provide no proof or
[00:15:48] evidence to India or the intern to pakistan or the international
[00:15:51] community, how can it use it, and
[00:15:55] something that India cannot do as part the treaty, and the kind of
[00:15:59] international legal course that it's taking is also
[00:16:02] validating Pakistan stons on the matter, and we're going to be taking
[00:16:06] closer look at what that means. and what are the future options for the country? for
[00:16:10] that we've been joined by doctors a security analyst from karachi. thank you
[00:16:14] very much dr. huma for being part the show today. i'd like your
[00:16:17] perspective in terms of what you think will be the next steps as part the
[00:16:21] permanent court of arbiteration. we've seen that despite
[00:16:24] India's status and claim of holding the treaty
[00:16:28] a bens which of course it cannot do. we've seen that the international momentum
[00:16:32] is continued. the permanent court of arbitration is also moving forward with its work as
[00:16:36] part the neutral. process to, in terms of what is happening
[00:16:40] legally, how do you think that the situation is going evolve further
[00:16:44] if India continues to not participate in
[00:16:48] these legal proceedings and does not provide the data that
[00:16:50] it is being asked to do so? well, frankly
[00:16:54] speaking, India is a very thin
[00:16:57] eyes, there is nothing in this that goes in favor of
[00:17:01] India so to say, because it is on the wrong side of international
[00:17:04] law, and it will also fall on the wrong side of
[00:17:08] history, the only thing that is problematic at this moment
[00:17:12] and time is that India takes an inspiration from
[00:17:15] Israel, and India, especially under Modi thinks
[00:17:19] that it can bypass, marginalize
[00:17:22] international norms, but this particular
[00:17:25] treaty, Indus water treaty is one the most successful
[00:17:29] confidence building measures or institutional
[00:17:33] arrangement that has existed between two nuclear
[00:17:36] armed. neighbors who are are not in
[00:17:40] very good relationship, we are very india centric in our
[00:17:44] security construct, India is very Pakistan centric in its
[00:17:47] security construct and that is sort of depicted by the
[00:17:51] deployment India does and by the military build up
[00:17:55] that it does, so and when did this happen? this happened
[00:17:59] after India used terrorism, the bogi it has been
[00:18:03] using for now 20 years to sort of
[00:18:07] inflict. pain on Pakistan and when it was defeated in the
[00:18:10] sindoor operation, it continued with the so-called
[00:18:13] abiance. now the term abiance does not
[00:18:17] exist in the lingua the treaty
[00:18:19] itself, so there is no
[00:18:23] justification that India has to carry on with this, but more
[00:18:27] importantly, if this treaty fails or
[00:18:31] collapses, then essentially we are setting
[00:18:35] a very dangerous precedence. of
[00:18:38] institutional umbrellas for treaties or how
[00:18:42] treaties will function in the future, and that is why
[00:18:46] I think the timing the way India is behaving is extremely
[00:18:50] critical, and that is why the international pressure must come
[00:18:54] upon India to call back this
[00:18:57] abiance on how you think that the treaty will
[00:19:01] actually collapse, you mentioned that that's going to be disaster, but in terms
[00:19:05] the legal protocol? and safegards that are in place as
[00:19:09] part the Indus Waters treaty, how exactly do you think
[00:19:12] it will collapse if India of course completely refuses its international obligations
[00:19:16] continues to act in ways that
[00:19:18] it is already doing so and working towards is there no
[00:19:22] consequence embedded within the system to be able to hold India
[00:19:25] accountable or stop its actions? I say the present
[00:19:29] global situation is red flag. It is how
[00:19:33] international organizations are being marginalized and they are.
[00:19:37] to hold states accountable, the whole concept of collective
[00:19:41] security is more diluted today than ever before, and also the
[00:19:45] institutional umbrellas because
[00:19:46] of it, but having said this, India needs to
[00:19:50] realize that Pakistan has time and again exercised strategic
[00:19:54] restraint and responding to India about what it is doing with the water.
[00:19:58] India has been using water as a weapon for Pakistan for years
[00:20:01] now, and Pakistan has constantly exercised strategic
[00:20:05] restraint in responding. that, but more
[00:20:08] recently, the military leadership of Pakistan has
[00:20:12] been more categorical, they say the lifeline of Pakistan
[00:20:16] will is touched by India, or if water is weaponized to
[00:20:19] point where it hurts Pakistan, then Pakistan may respond
[00:20:23] back in terms which you will can be painful
[00:20:27] for India, so I think that is the consequence of this, and more
[00:20:31] over, can India really afford to go to war with Pakistan? hasn't the
[00:20:35] sindoor operation taught enough lessons as i enough lessons for the
[00:20:39] Indians, so what they eventually do is that they do wars
[00:20:42] by other means, putting the India inters water treaty
[00:20:46] and abiance is the Indian. attempt
[00:20:50] of war by other means, Pakistan has
[00:20:54] acted with maturity, it has acted, it has
[00:20:58] exercise strategic restraint, but water is something
[00:21:01] else, water is Pakistan's
[00:21:03] lifeline, and there if it
[00:21:07] continues the way it is, and from saying that
[00:21:11] it is held in abiance, it starts diverting
[00:21:14] Pakistan's water, or India is very water stressed
[00:21:17] country, it has designs of irrigate. a desert
[00:21:21] Rajasthan and all of that has implications for
[00:21:24] Pakistan and India has been trying to get out the treaty for
[00:21:28] years, India has been talking about Indus water treaty to, India is talking
[00:21:32] about climate as a factor which should impact
[00:21:34] in the water flows into Pakistan, so
[00:21:38] India has been trying to find ways to cut water, Pakistan's
[00:21:41] water or to flood Pakistan, does this
[00:21:44] weaponization of water needs to stop and
[00:21:48] absolutely I mean it's fairly obvious that when
[00:21:52] India says the treaty is in abiance then it's trying to get out the
[00:21:56] treaty. If you look at the clauses the treaty, it is neither time
[00:21:59] specific nor event specific
[00:22:03] nor government specific. It is between two states
[00:22:06] brokered by the world bank. If it is not event
[00:22:10] specific, how can use India use
[00:22:14] false flag operation of which it could provide no proof or
[00:22:17] evidence to India or the internet to. Stan or the international
[00:22:21] community, how can it use it, how can it use
[00:22:25] it to put the treaty a byance when the treaty itself does not have clause
[00:22:29] of abiance, something which has been stated by the
[00:22:32] arbitation court in June 2025, so like
[00:22:36] I said India is on very thin eyes as per
[00:22:40] water laws, there is no way India can get away with
[00:22:43] this, right, absolutely, Dr.
[00:22:47] Hima, when we take a look at ' "the actions that then
[00:22:51] of course correspond to climate change and climate
[00:22:55] induced disasters in Pakistan, it's an added wore for the
[00:22:58] country, we've seen even now that there are warnings
[00:23:02] with regards to monsoon rains and the impact that it creates and then of course with the kind
[00:23:06] of actions India takes that also adds to the troubles that Pakistan is
[00:23:10] facing, how much of this constitutes us water terrorism and how can
[00:23:14] Pakistan talk about this with not just the World Bank or the permanent court of
[00:23:18] arbitration but also..." other departments that
[00:23:22] are looking into climate justice and climate financing, how can those
[00:23:26] platforms also be made aware of what is being
[00:23:30] added to this issue because the Indus Waters treaty and
[00:23:34] the actions that India is taking? well Pakistan is raised the issue at
[00:23:37] the United Nations, Pakistan is raised this, it's taken to taken it to the
[00:23:41] mediators, it has done its share of water diplomacy, we've just
[00:23:45] recently had water summit in Pakistan where we
[00:23:49] identified all these issues and there were scholars, it was an international
[00:23:52] summit, there were scholars from all over the world who walidated Pakistan's point of
[00:23:56] view, actually
[00:23:58] you know this
[00:23:58] is something I said right at the beginning of this conversation, it's not
[00:24:02] that what India can do or what India is
[00:24:06] doing is right or not, right now the question is that is is India
[00:24:10] trying to get away with weaponizing
[00:24:14] water against Pakistan by sort of
[00:24:17] taking advantage of a global envoyment which
[00:24:21] allows violations of international law and they go
[00:24:25] unpunished, that is a real concern, not, so
[00:24:29] it's not a bilateral issue between Pakistan and India, it's
[00:24:33] this should be issue which should be source of worry for all the
[00:24:36] treaties and the sec and
[00:24:38] the and the architect security architecture that exist
[00:24:42] under these treaties, because if treaty violations becomes
[00:24:46] norm and there are no repercussions for it, it is not just a problem
[00:24:50] for Pakistan, then it's a global issue, there's several
[00:24:53] other issues that several other treaties
[00:24:57] that exist, and by the way, the issue starts because
[00:25:01] what India has also been hedging sharing of
[00:25:04] data,
[00:25:05] you know, sharing is caring, so sharing the data is the first
[00:25:09] step towards this confidence building measure, something that India has
[00:25:12] been trying to prevent for
[00:25:15] years now, and to keep the optics
[00:25:18] alive, they will send the commission to Pakistan, but
[00:25:22] then continue to violate the treaty by building up dams or
[00:25:26] diverting water, which Pakistan has also identified
[00:25:30] as violation the treaty and taken it to the courts and the
[00:25:34] relevant forums, but our concern right now is
[00:25:38] that will this come to point where Pakistan will have to respond to this
[00:25:41] bilaterally if the international community fails
[00:25:45] to restraint India for continuing to violate this treaty,
[00:25:49] and the first... step should be that it takes back the stance that the treaty is in
[00:25:53] abiance because it has no legal roots, no legal
[00:25:56] standing, the treaty does not allow you to put it
[00:26:00] into an abiance, it is not, event
[00:26:03] specific, but what India has turned it into is
[00:26:06] event specific treaty abinence,
[00:26:10] it it is trying to get out the treaty over event for which it has no
[00:26:14] proof, it could neither give any proof, first it cannot do it, even if
[00:26:18] it was true to
[00:26:19] it is not, it was false flag operation, India could not
[00:26:23] provide any evidence to Pakistan, to its
[00:26:27] own people, to its own parliaments and
[00:26:31] of course to the international community. "I mean India has been called out for it,
[00:26:34] for what it is doing by its own people, especially the Modi government, so
[00:26:38] I just wonder if issue like water can be
[00:26:42] held hostage by the toxicity of politics in a country
[00:26:46] which is now revolting against its own form of its
[00:26:50] own government, its own leader and
[00:26:53] absolutely understand that that of course has to change, but unfortunately there so
[00:26:57] much that is being mined in India and this is of course affecting not
[00:27:01] just real peace." stability, but India itself. Thank you so much Dr. Huma Bikari for
[00:27:05] joining us and being a part the news room today. We'll take a look at another aspect
[00:27:09] that is closely linked with India's actions and that of course is
[00:27:12] yom that is being observed today and this marks
[00:27:16] India's
[00:27:17] illegal.
[00:27:58] Hello and welcome to Pakistan TV, my name is Nila Shuja. Let's take a look at the headline the
[00:28:02] hour.
[00:28:20] Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif will be paying visit to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia from the
[00:28:23] 6th to the 8th of August during which he will hold a meeting with Saudi Crown
[00:28:27] Prince Mohammed bin
[00:28:29] Salman.