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[00:00:00] future for a country like Pakistan of course um and it's [00:00:03] very important ties with countries like Saudi Arabia and [00:00:09] of of Turkey uh it's important to see how exactly this will transpire as part [00:00:12] of the defense cooperation in case of any aggression, but in what in [00:00:16] what ways do you think it also looks at [00:00:19] or impacts Pakistan's own [00:00:23] regional problems and in the ways that Pakistan would also like to [00:00:26] strengthen its geopolitical and military. missions and [00:00:30] the kind of threats that the country is facing, how do you think that such [00:00:34] alliances, if [00:00:35] of not part of this agreement, but in terms [00:00:40] of of the importance of engaging and expanding our alliances with [00:00:41] in different countries, how does that help Pakistan's [00:00:43] of position of in terms of leveraging towards the [00:00:47] aspects that are of a special interest to [00:00:49] us? yes, I [00:00:52] think, I think the the [00:00:56] message that goes out of this trilater. [00:01:01] a Alliance is that that Pakistan is [00:01:05] at least now trusted on the on [00:01:08] the middle eastern side and the western [00:01:11] side with one country is a [00:01:14] of NATO member so it it [00:01:17] a raises Pakistan's [00:01:21] of position defensive fies but at the same [00:01:23] of time of it provides deterrence [00:01:26] of now of geopolitically Pakistan's. main [00:01:30] problem nowadays rises from the east or the [00:01:34] west, [00:01:35] of think in those two theaters also, i think the message goes [00:01:39] out whether there are [00:01:43] joint kinetic operations as air [00:01:46] commodor said whether [00:01:49] jf 17 will go from this place to that place, but it [00:01:53] gives it gives punch, it gives punch to [00:01:56] Pakistan that it's part of a trilateral alliance. [00:02:01] "we had our RCDs, we had other [00:02:04] of ECOs, but this is historically the first [00:02:07] trial at with Saudi Arabia [00:02:09] of was the first [00:02:11] of bilateral alliance, but this is now a trilateral alliance, [00:02:14] so so [00:02:15] a I think I think it gives Pakistan lot of lot of [00:02:19] weight in international affairs in its own [00:02:22] geopolitical conflicts, it gives, it gives [00:02:25] of Turkey, Turkey lot of it [00:02:28] of that Turkey is now playing role. regionally [00:02:31] also being a being being a NATO [00:02:34] member and it afford Saudi Arabia the [00:02:38] multilayered [00:02:40] defense protection, it has [00:02:44] protection from [00:02:45] of the from the US, but now it it is also in [00:02:48] alliance with two two different countries, so geopolitically it [00:02:52] helps Saudi Arabia also, so it [00:02:56] will raise challenges for Pakistan in its mediation. [00:03:00] "but generally it will be very [00:03:03] of beneficial for Pakistan this agreement. Right, [00:03:07] ambassador Imran, there is also of course the aspect of [00:03:11] what [00:03:11] of ways we're looking at the situation develop [00:03:15] between the United States and Iran, and like you mentioned earlier, [00:03:19] Pakistan's role of mediation is very, very integral to this and is [00:03:23] of closely linked to how exactly Pakistan is interacting with key regional players, [00:03:27] I'd like you to stay with us for the next segment also that takes a..." als look at the [00:03:31] situation and how exactly uh this is moving [00:03:35] of forward, we've also been joined for that segment by Brian Steet was author and [00:03:39] senior fellow with narrative strategies and author of narrative war. thank [00:03:42] you very much Brian for joining us and being a part [00:03:44] of the discussion today. in light of what we are seeing happening now about [00:03:48] six months from when this war actually started, how do [00:03:52] you think that the United States has progress throughout this [00:03:56] conflict and what [00:03:57] of it is that the Trump administration uh is still hoping to [00:04:01] achieve or at least is communicating that is [00:04:04] trying to achieve to its own public, where do you think is the goal [00:04:08] post and what's the strategy to achieve it? [00:04:12] oh, that's a lot of [00:04:13] of questions. okay, so [00:04:18] of - i don't think the goal posts have changed as much [00:04:22] as the commentary on the goal post implies that [00:04:26] they've changed, but [00:04:27] of that said, i think that there is a... certain [00:04:30] realization uh that the way to [00:04:33] get the goals or to accomplish the goals that were [00:04:37] originally set out is going to have to [00:04:40] happen through some other [00:04:42] in means, it is not going to be sufficient to [00:04:45] inflict harm on the state of [00:04:48] Iran [00:04:49] and then that will cause Iran to concede whether [00:04:53] that's nuclear enrichment or it [00:04:55] conceeds its support [00:04:59] for regional non-state [00:05:01] actors, keep the straights of [00:05:05] hormos separate, because the straight [00:05:07] of is issue that was not the [00:05:12] in me reason that the... administration went into the war, it's [00:05:14] a uh, it's an objective that became [00:05:18] an objective because the war, so it's part [00:05:22] the Trump administration went in with a [00:05:26] highly kinetic uh, meaning [00:05:29] bombing and inflicting damage [00:05:33] that way, they they went into [00:05:36] this with that being their method, [00:05:40] but now and... and then Iran responded [00:05:44] after several weeks by closing or at least [00:05:47] primar mostly closing the straight of hermus, which [00:05:51] now means that we are a negotiation about [00:05:55] something that interestingly enough should not even be matter of [00:05:59] negotiation, the straight is considered by everyone except [00:06:03] Iran and maybe now Oman uh to be an international [00:06:07] waterway and nobody has the right to negotiate over [00:06:10] movement through an international water. waterway, but that's sort of where [00:06:14] we are, uh, I'm not, I personally I'm not happy [00:06:18] that that's where we are, I, I think the [00:06:21] administration would be happy if we could get out of this [00:06:25] position uh, with something that looks [00:06:28] like return [00:06:30] to - the [00:06:34] conditions before the war began, because even [00:06:38] with that, if everything else returned to the pre-war [00:06:41] conditions, "the United States has still [00:06:45] inflicted tremendous damage to the [00:06:49] IRGC, to the Iraqi military and their [00:06:53] capacity to conduct operations and [00:06:55] also inflicted tremendous harm to the [00:06:59] Iranian economy, I think I said Iraqi military, but the IRGC [00:07:03] military and to the Iranian [00:07:06] economy, so those could be considered [00:07:09] wins all by themselves, now the..." the obstacle to [00:07:13] declaring victory, i think from a political [00:07:16] standpoint would be something that can be [00:07:20] communicated as the reopening the straight of [00:07:23] hormos. right, ambassador [00:07:26] Imran, in in your perspective, when we see the [00:07:30] situation inch closer between Iran and Oman in the [00:07:34] agreement that essentially will give lot of control to Iran, which is [00:07:37] what it has been asking for, and Brian is right in saying that that's a product the war in [00:07:41] itself and not. perhaps the core core objective as to why it started, but [00:07:45] in what ways do you think that now lot of this is centered around the straight [00:07:49] offers and how exactly will that be navigated further and whether [00:07:53] or not there is move forward towards its resolution that is [00:07:56] acceptable to the US which can then lead to at least addressing the [00:08:00] core questions. thank you, i [00:08:04] think, i think if the man and [00:08:07] Iran agreement on the straight [00:08:11] is actually done [00:08:13] with, done and dusted as the say the [00:08:17] supreme leader has agreed to it, I think [00:08:20] Oman would not be in total contravention the [00:08:24] US, Oman were knowing Oman very [00:08:27] well, I think Oman would discuss this [00:08:31] with with Great Britain because it has privacy in [00:08:35] Oman as well as the US, it would not go [00:08:38] against the against US wishes, so I don't know. [00:08:42] whether the sort of root agreement [00:08:46] that the they are doing on the straight and some voluntary [00:08:49] fees, whether it has tasset us approval or not, i would think [00:08:53] man would never sign to anything that is [00:08:57] anti entire us, [00:09:00] so why the straight is important, because the [00:09:04] straight stopped the whole [00:09:07] discussion even before it could start [00:09:11] the 60 day. period and all of that, so negatively it [00:09:15] obstructed everything, and my hope is that if it is [00:09:19] indeed resolved between those two countries, [00:09:22] probably discussions can start on other major [00:09:26] issues or or as footprind court, the various [00:09:30] cold posts which are going to be discussed in the so-called [00:09:33] mou, right, [00:09:37] Brian, how are you looking at the ways in which the the [00:09:41] leadership in Iran right now is approaching these [00:09:45] aspects and of course the possibilities of negotiations, of course [00:09:48] earlier, especially at the start, the rhetoric was [00:09:52] centered around the leadership and with that essentially different now in [00:09:56] place, do you think that there has been a change in the way that Iran is interacting [00:10:00] with the US or do you think that it's pretty much the [00:10:02] same? well, well obviously there's a [00:10:06] change from last February and [00:10:10] till today and ' what is [00:10:13] interesting, and I mean, I wish I could be a fly on the [00:10:16] wall, which I have not been, so I'm not exactly sure how it's [00:10:20] being done, but the way it kind of comes across to as an [00:10:24] observer. is a little bit like an American [00:10:28] police interrogation from an American tv [00:10:31] show or movie where you have a good cop and a bad [00:10:35] cop and the way the interrogation [00:10:39] goes in television and movies is uh you have [00:10:42] somebody who acts like the uh the [00:10:46] victim or the supposed criminals [00:10:50] friend and then another cop comes in and asks like the tough [00:10:54] guy like there they want to do all this harm, and I [00:10:57] don't know, and and I've talked with other people [00:11:01] that kind of implied that the negotiators who are [00:11:05] working both with the Omanis and interacting with the Americans, even though [00:11:09] the Iranians will say they're not negotiating directly with the [00:11:12] Americans, those negotiators are [00:11:15] essentially still IRGC individuals, that all they [00:11:19] did was take off the uniform and put a suit, they're not [00:11:22] fundamentally of a... different ideology or [00:11:26] different world view, so I don't think Iran has [00:11:30] two different tracks, one that's inclined to [00:11:33] negotiation and one that's not, and therefore I'm [00:11:37] kind of curious if Iran is doing this [00:11:41] simply as a stage to [00:11:45] sort of make the Americans look foolish, where [00:11:49] they the Americans will be able to say, oh, it looks like we have deal, [00:11:53] and then the IRG see spokesperson or whoever [00:11:57] it is will then come out and say no there is no deal and then maybe [00:12:01] they'll fire rocket or something like that to prove that they're right [00:12:05] and and therefore there's this confusing [00:12:07] element that's how it looks from the [00:12:11] outside that there is confusion within Iran what I'm thinking [00:12:14] more and more is there's not confusion within Iran they're just [00:12:18] making it look that way because it's to their benefit [00:12:22] to kind of uh [00:12:26] so confusion on the part the American [00:12:30] delegation with whom they [00:12:32] interact. right um another [00:12:36] important aspect Brian is with reference to Israel's [00:12:39] actions in the middle east and then Israel's relationship with the [00:12:43] United States, how exactly do you think [00:12:46] that um where does it stand at the moment and whether or not there is a change [00:12:50] in that relationship and the importance that it has been [00:12:54] given? previously or historically to israely [00:12:57] interests, [00:13:02] support for Palestinians and to a degree just plain [00:13:05] support for Hamas that has taken place in [00:13:08] America, I believe that you have previously talked on [00:13:12] the show about Abdul [00:13:14] Rahman [00:13:17] the person who [00:13:18] is now the democrat [00:13:22] candidate for the US senate from the state of Michigan. [00:13:26] and his success in that and using [00:13:29] particularly the US relationship with Israel, is quite [00:13:33] clear that the democrat party in the United States [00:13:37] is now almost, well it's a majority [00:13:41] opposed to relationships with Israel, and [00:13:45] as a block US congress people [00:13:48] uh voted against support for Israel, so [00:13:52] it's within America there's a... really fascinating [00:13:56] dynamic happening where Israel used to be 20 [00:14:00] 30 years ago, it was a unifying voice, you would get people on [00:14:04] the far left and people on the far right on the American political [00:14:07] spectrum, and they would disagree on everything else, but they would [00:14:10] vote together a bill to support [00:14:14] Israel, but now that is not true, I [00:14:18] think it would be very, very hard to get almost any [00:14:21] house votes for [00:14:24] a support. Israel uh bill [00:14:27] and in the Senate, maybe two or three, maybe [00:14:31] more, but it's it's very slight, now [00:14:34] between the US executive and the Israeli [00:14:38] executive, that's another interesting [00:14:40] dynamic, uh, President [00:14:43] Trump does not seem to be, [00:14:45] and I don't know him personally, so I can't say this for certain, but he does not seem [00:14:49] to be a person who likes to be bossed around, nor a person [00:14:53] who likes to be... uh made to look [00:14:56] foolish, and uh, [00:15:00] BB Netanyahu has very [00:15:04] strong personality, and he states things very [00:15:07] unequivocally, which then kind [00:15:10] of comes across as if he's ordering the American [00:15:14] president, and that has rankled President [00:15:17] Trump over the F-35 sale to [00:15:21] Turkey, or [00:15:22] or while the reintroduction of Turkey into the... f35 [00:15:26] program and uh and then of [00:15:29] course uh the promises the [00:15:33] Netanyahu government uh with respect to what would happen [00:15:37] a iran or how quickly Iran would go uh have not [00:15:41] come to fruition and I don't think Trump is happy with that, so I think [00:15:45] there's there's more friction between the Netanyahu government [00:15:49] and the Trump administration than there was back in [00:15:52] February, but I I don't know, I don't think it's as [00:15:56] bad as some people are portraying it, I don't think [00:15:58] that there's a break, I don't think it's a fundamental shift, I just think that [00:16:01] it's it's not as positive as it was six months [00:16:05] ago uh "and if it is negative, it's a [00:16:09] negative that could be overcome by positive [00:16:13] accomplishments. Right, I understand that [00:16:16] ambassador Imran, I'd like your perspective of this too, especially given [00:16:20] what we've seen transpire throughout this conflict and the way [00:16:24] it's started and how it has evolved so far, there is of course aspects [00:16:28] of what is going on both within Israel and the United United [00:16:32] States that adds to the influence on the key [00:16:36] decision makers in the ac'. that they take, but in what ways do you think that [00:16:39] this factor and then of course Israel's actions [00:16:43] v Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, and then also [00:16:47] the front between the Huti rebels in Saudi Arabia, how exactly [00:16:51] are all these dynamics affecting the decisions being [00:16:55] taken by both Iran and the United States and what do you think they are [00:16:59] making their own interests in light these developing [00:17:01] situations? very difficult and very [00:17:05] very expensive. sort of [00:17:07] question, I agree with Brian that [00:17:11] there might be some meritants between the executive branches [00:17:15] of Israel [00:17:18] and and the US, [00:17:21] but they seem to be getting along, I mean I don't [00:17:25] know whether whether they'l be obvious in [00:17:29] policy and the legislature as he has [00:17:32] explained the house and the Senate, they [00:17:35] are there are different. kettle of fish, I am [00:17:38] not, and I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the [00:17:42] IRGC, I don't know, [00:17:46] I and I would agree with Brian again that [00:17:49] this theory about a great dissonance in the [00:17:53] Iranian government structure, I think this is [00:17:56] overplayed, [00:17:58] this they probably may be [00:18:02] good cop or bad cop or maybe the [00:18:05] iritants are much lesser. than those that are [00:18:09] portrayed, there has been major [00:18:13] Iranian loss, there have been major losses in [00:18:17] the last 10 days also, so I don't know [00:18:20] whether they would force the hand the IRGC, [00:18:24] and they would, they would not fire rocket, as [00:18:28] Brian says disrupt the to disrupt the peace process once [00:18:32] again or to prove their point, I hope they don't, [00:18:35] because here in Pakistan. we are we are affected not [00:18:39] only because the economic off shoots but because we [00:18:43] have we put our own whole state in [00:18:47] the mediation process and that has that has [00:18:51] been the center of our of our work if might say [00:18:55] so so hope they don't but [00:18:59] one can't predict the irgc just as one [00:19:02] can't predict trump one can't [00:19:06] predict the... [00:19:09] see is right right, thank [00:19:10] you very much ambas imran for joining us and being a part the news room today. [00:19:13] Brian, my last question to you especially given now how the [00:19:17] situation has developed further and we're almost of course six months into it, [00:19:21] there's the added economic pressures also that Mr. Trump [00:19:25] is face facing and of course the entire world is facing, but in what ways [00:19:29] do you think that the effect that that we see within [00:19:33] the United States towards the Trump administration and this [00:19:37] president? see and then of course the decreasing popularity that we've seen, how [00:19:41] much of that is being navigated by the [00:19:44] administration and what is being said that can [00:19:48] then appease or satisfy the American public the kind of [00:19:52] rises and prices that they are also witnessing? [00:19:55] okay, it's really good questions [00:19:58] - I'm going to say the [00:20:02] obvious, Donald J. Trump is not the typical [00:20:05] American president, and where that [00:20:09] might be really important is lot of presidents [00:20:13] might radically adjust or might if even have not even gotten [00:20:16] involved in during an election year, even a mid-term election [00:20:20] year into incursion uh [00:20:23] that he has. i don't know that he is [00:20:27] as concerned as say normal president [00:20:30] would have been given the same thing or the same [00:20:34] circumstances. [00:20:35] that said uh This war is unpopular, it is an unpopular [00:20:39] amongst Republicans, [00:20:41] it is, it is wildly unpopular among democrats [00:20:45] and [00:20:46] it is unpopular among independents, and of course the independent. [00:20:50] or what matter, because it's about a 40, 40, well, it's [00:20:54] probably like 35, 35, 30 in America where you [00:20:57] have about even 35 [00:21:00] each or republican and democrat, and about 30% [00:21:04] independent, and that depends on the state that you're talking [00:21:08] about, and so independent voters are are significantly [00:21:12] important, they are moved [00:21:15] obviously by by economics, gas prices are higher in America, [00:21:19] but they... are way lower in America than almost anywhere else in the world, and [00:21:23] huge reason for that is because the Trump administration's [00:21:26] energy policies that have ensured that America is [00:21:30] producing more oil now than it is ever produced [00:21:34] before, so uh the Trump [00:21:37] administration could make the argument that this was [00:21:41] necessary war, I don't think they've communicated that particularly well to this [00:21:45] point, and then they could also make the argument at the same time that the reason [00:21:49] why things aren't... worse is because [00:21:52] of uh the policies that they've implemented that are very [00:21:56] pro-energy, so all of those things i would just argue that [00:21:59] it's all not necessarily doom and gloom, but if [00:22:03] you are democrat uh [00:22:06] campaigning for election or you're a [00:22:10] democrat political consultant, you have lot to be happy [00:22:14] about in terms the mood and in terms the economic direction and [00:22:18] that general polling. so if you look at right track, wrong [00:22:22] track, uh, it's it's not in favor the [00:22:25] Trump administration at all uh, and Trump's overall [00:22:29] popularity is below 40%, which tends to be a bad [00:22:33] marker uh in terms of holding seats, so there's a lot of [00:22:37] intricacies within the American political system that are quite unique this [00:22:40] year, but still I would say it doesn't look good, [00:22:44] but I don't think it's hopeless uh, and it really will, it [00:22:48] will be - "the person who enjoys watching the political [00:22:52] game, this will be fascinating election [00:22:56] season to watch, because I don't think it's going to come out [00:22:59] as lot the surface level [00:23:02] predictions are are predicting, I think it's going to be closer run [00:23:06] thing than people imagine, but that's just [00:23:09] a guess on my [00:23:10] part definitely, definitely be interesting - nothing else, thank you so much, Brian [00:23:14] state for joining us and being a part the show today, the going on and the developments [00:23:18] of course taking place a very..." in terms of what is happening in the larger middle [00:23:22] east and what the future scenario will be and we'll be here to talk more about that [00:23:26] as it develops. that's all that we have from the news room today. we'll now see you on [00:23:29] Monday. [00:23:50] Hello and welcome to experts corner. This is Mahin [00:23:52] Joffrey. [00:23:58] Uh, I think Trump once he had elected [00:24:00] to go to [00:24:00] war. [00:24:06] Uh, only Congress can actually undo the sanctions, so [00:24:09] whatever Trump says, it has to go through Congress. One [00:24:13] the key weapons that Iran is using this moves for is leverage against the [00:24:17] US. Having a US presence on your territory. has made you [00:24:21] more likely to be attacked realignments taking place to counter the [00:24:25] Israelis and that includes your country, Pakistan, along [00:24:28] with uh Saudi Arabia and Egypt and [00:24:31] Turkey. [00:24:40] From the heart of South Asia to the cross roads of central Asia, from the turbulent [00:24:44] Middle East and North Africa to the power corridors the west. Iran [00:24:48] has successfully... demonstrated its [00:24:51] ability not just to negotiate its [00:24:55] term, but also to negotiate on [00:24:59] each term for that amount of time that [00:25:03] Tehran considers as strategically equivalent. [00:25:06] article 3 the NATO treaty is all about [00:25:10] self-defense and that's been a sore point between the United States of [00:25:14] America and the other NATO allies since the foundation [00:25:17] the uh the alliance. So what's happening now is burden [00:25:21] sharing is going evolve to burden shifting, Amit [00:25:25] Shah, he is the one who is running the extortion, [00:25:28] assassination and all these plots sitting a [00:25:32] government office, being a minister of India, America [00:25:36] knows it, Canada knows [00:25:37] it. [00:25:51] Pakistan has done human work, it's been [00:25:54] absolutely remarkable what Pakistan, what [00:25:58] Islamabad has been able to bring about? Well, I think the [00:26:02] countries. mediating have to keep plugging away and trying to find [00:26:05] a modus a solution. i think the first thing that has to [00:26:09] happen is there has to be agreement on the straight of hormos [00:26:13] because that was the cause of this latest war. most [00:26:17] important part is going to be dialogue and i think the [00:26:20] Pakistan back door diplomacy uh Qatar [00:26:23] also uh is essential. india is not only [00:26:26] destabilizing the region. india [00:26:28] has i think it's look at this ambition. it it was involving. [00:26:32] terrorist acts in Canada, the persecution of minorities in India has [00:26:36] been very, very long problem, [00:26:39] very systemic problem, systematic persecution [00:26:43] the Muslims there, not only the Muslims but also the [00:26:46] Christians, forces are police and devies and [00:26:50] scouts rangers, they are doing the very [00:26:53] best. [00:27:10] Ofganistan remains a central hub in the global truck [00:27:13] trade. According to the UNODC 2025 report, [00:27:17] it produced 433 tons of opium in [00:27:20] 2024, nearly 20% the global [00:27:24] supply. Despite a temporary drop after the [00:27:27] 2022 ban, cultivation rose again by [00:27:31] 19%. in 2024. Trafficking networks [00:27:35] stayed active. Average opium prices of [00:27:38] $750 per kilogram reflect the continued [00:27:42] demand and functioning smuggling routes. According to the world [00:27:45] drug report 2025, total global opium [00:27:49] production in 2024 reach [00:27:51] 2,140 tons. Myanmar led with [00:27:55] 995 tons, which is 46%. Followed [00:27:59] by Afghanistan at 433 tons. which is [00:28:02] 20%, while Mexico and Colombia produce smaller [00:28:06] shares. These figures highlight that despite bans and [00:28:10] crackdowns, the global opium trade remains deeply [00:28:14] entrenched with regional networks adapting and [00:28:17] expanding. Moreover, an cartels are shifting from [00:28:21] plant-based drugs to synthetics like crystal meth, which [00:28:25] are cheaper to produce and easier to hide and harder to [00:28:29] detect, showing that the threat is moving from field. to [00:28:33] laboratories spreading globally, but Pakistan is [00:28:36] actively countering this threat under the national [00:28:40] anti-narcotics policy 2019 and backed by the laws like [00:28:44] the control of narcotics substances act [00:28:46] 1997, pakistan's anti-narcotics force [00:28:50] (Anf) conducts extensive operations in [00:28:53] Balochistan, kp and Singh, using drones, [00:28:57] satellite imagery and modern agricultural methods, [00:29:00] Pakistan eradicates poppy. props even in remote [00:29:04] areas. In 2024-2025 alone Pakistan cleared [00:29:08] hundreds of hectares of puppy fields, dismantled [00:29:11] 419 illegal waterboards, destroyed [00:29:14] 64 solar systems and repatriated 1 [00:29:18] and10 foreign traffickers. National seizures exceeded a [00:29:22] 361 metric tons of narcotics worth [00:29:25] billions, cutting off major supply lines with [00:29:29] technology driven surveillance, corridor and... [00:29:33] and the interagency coordination, pakistan maintains its [00:29:37] poppy free status since 2001. the country [00:29:41] is not just protecting its borders, it's safeguarding the [00:29:44] region. [00:30:10] Hello, you're watching Pakistan TV, I am Sadif Ali Khan. Let's take a look [00:30:14] at the headlines [00:30:15] first. [00:30:37] Pakistan, kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Turkey is signed the Makka joint defense [00:30:41] agreement. The historic pact aims to strengthen collective deter.