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[00:00:19] Hello and of good evening, it is 5 p.m. on the clock and I am Rafael Sohal with the
[00:00:23] top stories
[00:00:24] of the hour. Let's have
[00:00:25] look.
[00:00:42] Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif leaves Madina for Pakistan,
[00:00:45] concluding his successful visit to Saudi Arabia during which
[00:00:49] Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey sign the Makkka joint
[00:00:52] defense agreement. The
[00:00:54] of historic pact aims to strengthen collective deterance against any act of
[00:00:58] aggression.
[00:01:04] in in
[00:01:08] Turkish President Rajap Tayab Erdovan says the Makka joint defense
[00:01:12] agreement between Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is not
[00:01:16] targeting any country, but aims to strengthen real security
[00:01:19] and
[00:01:20] cooperation.
[00:01:28] Iranian president masod. says Tehran is ready for
[00:01:32] dialogue with the
[00:01:33] of US and Europe, but will not accept demands that
[00:01:37] of compromise Iran's sovereignty or defense
[00:01:41] a capabilities.
[00:01:50] Security forces
[00:01:53] of of neutralized seven terrorists belonging to the Indian sponsored fitnatul farij during
[00:01:56] intelligence based operation in Hangu district while Captain
[00:02:00] Hamza Akram made
[00:02:01] the ultimate sacrifice and embrace martterdom during
[00:02:04] of intense exchange of
[00:02:08] of of a fire. of
[00:02:09] of me
[00:02:16] Thai of prime minister Chan stresses strengthening implementation
[00:02:20] of the country's gun laws after school shooting
[00:02:23] in Nonthaburi
[00:02:25] of province leaves eight people dead and 30 others injured.
[00:02:38] At least three people, including a child
[00:02:42] of of have been killed in overnight Russian
[00:02:43] of
[00:02:45] of of of attacks near the Ukrainian capital,
[00:02:47] a Kiev.
[00:03:06] of
[00:03:07] of
[00:03:15] of Those were
[00:03:18] the headlines and now let's delve into the details
[00:03:21] of the top stories. Prime Minister Mohammad Shibas Sharif has concluded his visit
[00:03:25] to Saudi Arabia and departed for Pakistan from Madina.
[00:03:28] Governor of Madina. Salman bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz
[00:03:32] Al-Soud bid fai well to the Prime
[00:03:34] a Minister and the accompanying Pakistan delegation at the airport. A key development
[00:03:38] during the visit
[00:03:39] of was the signing
[00:03:39] of the Makka joint defense agreement by Prime Minister Shahbar Sharif,
[00:03:43] Saudi crown prince Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdul Aziz Al-Soud and
[00:03:47] Turkish President Rajab Tayyab Erdowan. The agreement is expected
[00:03:51] to open new avenues for defense cooperation and further strengthen the close
[00:03:55] and brotherly relations among Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and
[00:03:59] Turkey. During his stay, prime minister Shahar Sharif
[00:04:02] of also performed umrah and visited the Masjid Nabi where he paid
[00:04:06] his respects to the Holy Prophet Muhammad,
[00:04:09] of peace be upon him. Deputy prime
[00:04:11] of minister, chief of defense forces, field marshall sayyad asim munir,
[00:04:15] defense minister Kwaja Mohammed Asif,
[00:04:17] of information minister Atar and special assistant to the Prime Minister Tarik
[00:04:21] Fatmi accompanied the Prime
[00:04:22] Minister.
[00:04:28] Pakistan, Saudi Arabia. and Turkey have signed the Makka joint
[00:04:32] defense agreement held at the al safa palace. the historic pact aims to
[00:04:36] strengthen collective deterance against any act of aggression. more in this report by
[00:04:39] alamdar khazme. saudi
[00:04:43] crown prince muhammad bin Salman, turkish president
[00:04:47] rajab tayyab ardowan and prime minister
[00:04:50] a shahbaz sharif signed the makka joint defense agreement at
[00:04:54] al safa palace during
[00:04:55] of the Makka summit for joint defense. the leaders also reviewed
[00:04:59] bilater. tize
[00:05:00] of and discussed issues of mutual interest, the agreement
[00:05:04] strengthens collective deterence against aggression and
[00:05:08] states that an armed attack any one
[00:05:10] of the three countries will be
[00:05:12] treated as an attack on all. It also enhances defense
[00:05:16] cooperation among Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and
[00:05:20] Turkia. Information Minister Ataullah Tarar has
[00:05:23] welcomed the agreement calling it a historic milestone in
[00:05:27] trilateral security corporation. Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif
[00:05:31] also met Saudi crown prince Mohammad bin Salman in Makka.
[00:05:35] The two leaders reafmed their commitment to expanding
[00:05:39] bilateral cooperation and exchanged views. on
[00:05:42] regional and global developments. The Makka joint defense
[00:05:46] agreement marks new chapter in strategic
[00:05:49] cooperation among Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and
[00:05:53] Turkey. reporting for Pakistan TV, alamdar
[00:05:56] Kazmi. Turkish
[00:06:00] president has said that the Maka joint defense agreement between
[00:06:03] Turkey and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan targets no country. He added that
[00:06:07] agreement remains open to participation of other friendly nations seeking peace,
[00:06:11] prosperity. and stability in the region, a post on the
[00:06:15] Turkish social platform, ardovan said the agreement based on the
[00:06:19] principle of collective deterrance with strengthen security and defense
[00:06:22] cooperation, joint defense industry projects and counter terrorism
[00:06:26] efforts. he added that turkey would maintain its principal stance in
[00:06:29] favor of resolving conflicts and crisis through dialogue and
[00:06:33] diplomacy based on respect for international
[00:06:36] law.
[00:06:41] Iranian president has said Tehran is ready for dialogue with the
[00:06:45] US and Europe, but will not accept demands that compromise Iran's
[00:06:49] sovereignty or defensive capabilities. Speaking in
[00:06:52] comments carried by Iran's irib broadcaster,
[00:06:56] Pazishkiyan defended his government's decision to pursue negotiations, saying the
[00:07:00] move is aimed at protecting national interests and avoiding unnecessary
[00:07:04] conflict. He rejected claims that his admiration, rather his
[00:07:08] administration had pressured Iran's leadership into talks, saying major
[00:07:11] decisions. were made in coordination with the country's leadership and
[00:07:15] the armed forceskian also criticized European countries saying
[00:07:19] Tehran had reached understandings with European representatives during
[00:07:23] diplomatic efforts but that Europe ultimately failed to act
[00:07:26] independently. The Iranian presidents of diplomacy and military strength were not
[00:07:30] contradictory, stressing that Iran would not agree to dismantle its
[00:07:34] defense
[00:07:35] capabilities.
[00:07:40] Moving on, security forces have neutralized seven terrorist belonging to the Indian sponsored
[00:07:44] fitnah during intelligence based operation in Hangu district. Security troops
[00:07:48] effectively engaged Quarij location during the operation. In desperation
[00:07:52] Quad took refuge inside the mosk blatantly disregarding the
[00:07:55] sanctity the place of worship. During the intense exchange of
[00:07:58] fire Captain Hamzah Akram who was leading his troops from the front
[00:08:02] while pursuing the terrorists fought galently and embraced martterdom in the line of
[00:08:06] duty. Whapons and ammunition were also recovered from the slained
[00:08:10] huarage. The terrorists were actively. involved in numerous terrorist activities
[00:08:14] targeting security forces, law enforcement agencies and innocent
[00:08:17] civilians. sanitization operation is currently underway in the area to
[00:08:21] eliminate any remaining terrorists. the ISPR said the counter
[00:08:25] terrorism campaign under the vision of khan would continue at
[00:08:28] full pace to eliminate foreign sponsored and supported terrorism from the
[00:08:32] country. the ISPR added that the sacrifices of brave soldiers
[00:08:36] further reinforces the country's resolve safegard its people and
[00:08:40] defend national security at all costs.
[00:08:47] Thai prime minister Nuthin Charna vell stress the strengthening
[00:08:50] implementation the country's gun laws after the school
[00:08:54] shooting in Nontumbary province. Eight people were
[00:08:57] confirmed dead including the gunman and his grandparents and over
[00:09:01] 30 people were injured with nine in critical condition after gun man
[00:09:05] opened fire a school and home in Northambery province on
[00:09:09] Friday. Anutin told the media after seen that the reason for the
[00:09:13] attack may be excessive academic pressure since the alleged
[00:09:17] student shooters grandparents were very strict with his
[00:09:20] studies. he said no one is allowed to carry guns into public places
[00:09:24] unless performing official duties. he said the law is quite
[00:09:28] clear. citizens are not in the position that requires them to possess
[00:09:32] guns and carry arms in public. from now on checks will be
[00:09:36] made and if civilians are found to be carrying arms illegally they will
[00:09:40] be arrested.
[00:09:47] Well viewers, that's all for now, keep watching Pakistan TV for more updates, this is
[00:09:50] Royal, saying goodbye, take
[00:09:52] care.
[00:10:24] Hello and welcome to welcome to the news room with sunna today we're going to be taking a look at the latest
[00:10:28] developments taking place a very very important announcement a
[00:10:31] trilateral cooperation agreement that has been signed
[00:10:35] between Pakistan, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Turkey,
[00:10:39] this is of course going to be very very integral in terms the developing
[00:10:43] situation, but also in terms of how it marks the historic and deep
[00:10:46] routeties between these three countries and of
[00:10:49] course this is going to be very integral in terms of what it
[00:10:53] achieves especially. with regards to the cooperation
[00:10:56] between these three countries, but also in terms of how exactly that
[00:11:00] cooperation can possibly extend to other areas as
[00:11:04] well. while this is of course being emphasized that this is defense pack, it
[00:11:08] is something very important to note in terms of what it entils and
[00:11:12] what the agreement is going to cover. for now, what
[00:11:16] we know of course is that this is going to be mutual
[00:11:19] understanding between these countries in terms of what it is that they
[00:11:23] will decide to ac. upon and what it is that they will perceive as a thread, but
[00:11:27] this is something emphasized time in again that this is for defense
[00:11:31] cooperation not targeted towards any particular country or any particular
[00:11:35] situation, and of course does not mean that any sort of
[00:11:38] military escort is going to be arranged, this going to be important also
[00:11:42] in terms of how the three countries are going to further explore their trade and investment
[00:11:46] ties as well and how exactly these relationships are going to
[00:11:50] develop even further and especially given the kind of situation the middle
[00:11:54] east is in right now, that will be the focus in our first
[00:11:58] segment the show today. our next one is going to look at what is happening as part
[00:12:02] the US Iran equation, where we see that Mr.
[00:12:05] Trump has recently spoken to reporters and said that he's very
[00:12:09] optimistic about the situation, saying that there are hopes that he
[00:12:13] thinks exist in terms of how successful negotiations can
[00:12:17] proceed further and how talks can resume. it's important to see exactly
[00:12:21] when that will happen with mediation efforts underway and also the very...
[00:12:25] important agreement between Iran and Oman also inching closer and
[00:12:29] specially in terms the kind of control is going to give the straight to Iran, something
[00:12:32] it's been talking about since the start the conflict and what that does to
[00:12:36] the US's key positions as part of what it hopes to achieve out of this
[00:12:40] war, the decreasing popularity that Mr. Trump faces
[00:12:44] and then of course the way that the Israeli occasion is also
[00:12:48] impacting the situation, that will be the focus in our show today and we're going to
[00:12:51] start off with very important and very historic...
[00:12:55] Agreement that has been signed between Pakistan, Saudi
[00:12:59] Arabia and Turkey. The Makka joint defense
[00:13:02] agreement is going to be an important aspect, not just in terms the
[00:13:06] three countries and their interactions with each other, but also the backdrop the
[00:13:10] developing situation in the middle east. For this we've been joined by Imran ali is
[00:13:14] a former ambassador and air commodor Khalid Chishti whose defense analyst.
[00:13:18] Thank you very much gentlemen for being part the show today.
[00:13:22] Let me begin with you in terms of how you're looking at these developments
[00:13:25] particularly in light of what we earlier saw um exist
[00:13:29] between pakistan and Saudi Arabia as part the defense
[00:13:33] cooperation where we understand uh that similar sentiments of course
[00:13:37] were underscored between the two that any act of aggression against one will be taken
[00:13:41] as an act of aggression against another and then now of course there
[00:13:45] is defense agreement that extends to another country another
[00:13:48] brotherly country and these uh this trilateral cooperation
[00:13:52] also talks about the same aspect how how important and
[00:13:55] historic do you think this agreement is and exactly what it entils in
[00:13:59] terms of deepening the cooperation and ties that exist between these three
[00:14:03] countries? thank you very much miss
[00:14:07] sana for the invitation. absolutely, there is no
[00:14:11] doubt about it, this is a great time that we three the most
[00:14:14] important countries in the muslim ummah have converged together
[00:14:18] along with their obviously challenges and the
[00:14:21] expectations and most important their strengths. because we
[00:14:25] see Turkey as being one the most important country in the NATO
[00:14:29] which has been, which has
[00:14:32] had lot of exposure to the western technology, modern
[00:14:35] weaponizations from the west, transfer of technology, indigenious
[00:14:39] industrial base that they have, and
[00:14:43] top of that Pakistan joins hand, obviously if you ask me the two most
[00:14:46] advanced military capable countries which the
[00:14:50] Muslim countries have, cannot easily
[00:14:52] be said that this is Turkey and Pakistan. now add that factor of saudia
[00:14:56] which has obviously has lot of resources of oil with
[00:15:00] compensate and plug in the financial challenges and I think if
[00:15:04] you look at the history, let's go back to Turkey
[00:15:07] again, this is a country for last 25 years is
[00:15:10] expanded military hardware and infrastructure
[00:15:14] tremendously. In year 2000 it had just one
[00:15:18] billion dollar of defense industry and its export was only 200
[00:15:22] million dollars and now in 25 years it has. up by 20
[00:15:25] times and now it is 20 billion dollars of industry
[00:15:29] and Turkey is exporting almost 8.5 billion dollars of
[00:15:33] hardware so that tells you lot this and the collaboration.
[00:15:37] and this is presently almost the world's 10th
[00:15:40] most highest selling armament equipment
[00:15:44] country in the world this time. add that to pakistani
[00:15:48] collaboration. in the past in the years, if you look at the
[00:15:51] history, i have had the privilege and honor to do my armed forces war course in Istanbul
[00:15:55] and that to in turkish language just about 22 years back, and even
[00:15:59] then people turkish people used to call us brother and not friends,
[00:16:03] obviously and they put us high above all other committee of...
[00:16:07] nations so that's the privilege, the understanding, the comfort level that we had
[00:16:11] traditionally, and now add Pakistani strength. Pakistani strength
[00:16:15] has been obviously on the military part, we have the armed forces which
[00:16:19] are battle hardened and combat proven, we've had the industry
[00:16:23] which produces jf 17 thunder, at the air force level we
[00:16:26] had unmandarial vehicle, lighting munition and these drones being
[00:16:30] manufactured in Pakistan, through the battle testing and hardened
[00:16:34] armed forces
[00:16:35] this brings in lot of prestige. "the world has recognized and
[00:16:39] as I said in the beginning that Saudi Arab can contribute a meaningful way
[00:16:43] to fund these challenges, what we can come across, it's it's a
[00:16:46] natural convergence, I would say. This is not that alliance in which you
[00:16:50] say we have our own self-seeking interest, we have our own
[00:16:53] motives, top of that we've had these national
[00:16:57] interest, the threats, perception and the expectation, hopes
[00:17:00] converging on one point, only then the three countries could come close,
[00:17:04] there is no buyer or seller here, there is..." no opportunity or
[00:17:08] occasional friendship or coming close, it's a
[00:17:11] tested seasoned kind of relation that to be had and I think hope
[00:17:15] to have many more good news coming and I hope some other countries
[00:17:19] joining too in this agreement right
[00:17:22] absolutely let me come to you with your perspective also in terms of
[00:17:26] how you looking at this development particularly in terms the backdrop
[00:17:30] the regional situation in the middle east and the very important ties that
[00:17:34] exist between between Pakistan Turkey and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. arabia,
[00:17:38] how do you think that this partnership is very integral in terms
[00:17:42] the existing geopolitical structure the middle
[00:17:46] east? yes, thank you,
[00:17:48] sanna, and like
[00:17:52] commodor sah said, it's a very important, it's a very
[00:17:56] important agreement coming taking
[00:18:00] place at Makkah and it has Islamic connotations
[00:18:03] also, but it's primarily primarily deterrant.
[00:18:07] so it's a deterrant for
[00:18:11] primarily Israel, because
[00:18:14] Israel has been talking about a sunni alliance
[00:18:18] taking place, one the one the leaders the opposition
[00:18:22] who's probably going to come into par
[00:18:26] after after Nathaniau has been
[00:18:30] touting this continuously, and also
[00:18:33] it's probably also meant...
[00:18:38] to stop aggression between Iran and Saudi
[00:18:41] Arabia in terms the middle eastern
[00:18:44] conflict, kinetic attacks
[00:18:48] which have been part of it, it's been it's been it's been very
[00:18:52] aably timed with,
[00:18:56] I have just heard that the oman and Iran
[00:19:00] agreement on the states of hormos has
[00:19:03] also been finalized and it's done and dusted.
[00:19:07] "it had to be signed by by the supreme leader or
[00:19:11] approved by the supreme leader, I think it has been, it
[00:19:15] has been done, so now we might look at
[00:19:19] an era of peace in the US Iran
[00:19:23] conflict at least in the short term, two or three
[00:19:26] months time, and Pakistan is probably the
[00:19:29] only country that can that can placate Iran
[00:19:33] and tell Iran that this agreement is not against.
[00:19:37] Iran because there are voices coming out of
[00:19:41] Iran, not the official Iranian
[00:19:44] voices, but some the think tank
[00:19:48] leaders, some their parliamentarians
[00:19:51] who think that this is just paper
[00:19:54] agreement to to benefit Saudi
[00:19:58] Arabia, well it's not that
[00:20:00] and I think the Iranian leadership understands the
[00:20:04] importance of it and that it's not again. Iran,
[00:20:08] I think we have been able to convey this to Iran and
[00:20:11] advance. Right, and that of course is very, very
[00:20:15] important. The aspect of
[00:20:18] deterrance is something that needs to be highlighted even further. It
[00:20:22] has been clarified in the joint statement as well, this is not targeted towards any
[00:20:25] particular country,
[00:20:26] it is meant only for defense cooperation, but how important you think it
[00:20:30] is emphasize that, especially in terms the kind of
[00:20:34] international concerns that were earlier. also raised as
[00:20:38] part the developing situation between US and Iran and the
[00:20:42] ways in which such defense agreements are going to come into place, that of course have been
[00:20:46] laid to rest to lot of degrees, but in what ways do you think it's important for the?
[00:20:50] national community to understand that this true is something which is only for
[00:20:53] defense purposes and not targeted towards anything in
[00:20:56] particular. you rightly pointed out sana that this
[00:21:00] is defense agreement. it doesn't have any offensive element. there is no
[00:21:04] hegemonic designs in this built in this, it is for self defense number
[00:21:08] one. and ambassador Imran very rightly said that the world
[00:21:12] has to and should understand that this is not against any one
[00:21:15] country and it has to be done as through only the deterrants and
[00:21:19] deterents. does not come when the bad time come, veterance has to be
[00:21:23] created, built and tested during the peace
[00:21:26] time. Pakistan, obviously Turkey, they have their own military
[00:21:30] capability, obviously Saudia has lot of financial
[00:21:33] resources, so these three should I would expect them to
[00:21:37] develop in the peace time, those capabilities should be
[00:21:40] manifested and those should be tested and tried so the enemies these
[00:21:44] three countries and by particularly and by and large of Muslim and
[00:21:48] for any expansion is... designed for any country, they should
[00:21:52] be verificable and tested deterents
[00:21:56] obviously, some people take it as a misunderstanding, i was on
[00:21:59] different channels throughout the day today and people expected that could be a JF
[00:22:03] 17 flying from Pakistan intercepting fighter jet coming from anybody
[00:22:07] any other country and and shooting it down, that's not the case,
[00:22:11] it has to be built during the peace, tri services
[00:22:14] exercises have to be done, I can for sure share with you that
[00:22:18] Pakistan airports periodically. numerous airpower
[00:22:21] exercises the turkish air force and saudi air force and you saw that a
[00:22:25] j1 thunder went non stop obviously covering almost over
[00:22:29] 300 kilometers with the to refuling
[00:22:32] we be deployed for an exercise in saudia and to that
[00:22:35] that kind of exercises should be manifested all our crew could be an
[00:22:39] airman, sailor, soldier should be confident enough that god forbid if there
[00:22:43] is a bad time comes or a challenging situation come we should
[00:22:47] be able to thought of before it actually materialized. so the world should look at
[00:22:51] it that it is for a mutual acceptability of owners of
[00:22:55] responsibility, liabilities, challenges and let tell
[00:22:59] you as last word, the more vacuum you leave the
[00:23:03] mistrust between the countries, imbuguity, obviously that
[00:23:07] invites aggression, when you send out very solid message with
[00:23:10] conviction and resolved back by the military force, obviously many
[00:23:14] countries or many enemies these three countries particularly with think times
[00:23:18] and this should also encourage other countries also to
[00:23:22] join, because it's not a matter of who's smaller, weaker or
[00:23:25] stronger, it's more of building up consensus in as many
[00:23:29] countries as possible that at diplomatic, political and obviously
[00:23:33] economic level. right, absolutely, I'm glad you pointed that
[00:23:37] out, ambassador, I'd like your perspective on the last bit that
[00:23:41] Mr. Chishti was talking about with reference to other countries joining this to,
[00:23:45] this again was a conversation that we saw happen previously also when
[00:23:49] Pakistan signed. bilateral defense cooperation agreement with Saudi Arabia as well,
[00:23:53] whether or not more countries will follow, and we now of course understand that
[00:23:56] Turkey has entered into a trilateral cooperation agreement, can
[00:24:00] other countries, especially in the middle eastern and Gulf region be
[00:24:04] expected to join, and we can see such
[00:24:08] cooperations being extended to them as
[00:24:10] well, yes, I think other
[00:24:13] countries have shown their interest to join,
[00:24:16] but I can understand Pakistan.
[00:24:20] reluctance as key mediator that it doesn't
[00:24:24] want other countries to join and it to it to be seen as
[00:24:27] an anti-iranian alliance turkey is different and
[00:24:31] Saudi Arabia is different Saudi Arabia
[00:24:33] Pakistan was instrumental in prior to
[00:24:36] these two Israeli
[00:24:38] instigated wars Pakistan
[00:24:42] was instrumental with China and Oman in bringing Saudi
[00:24:46] Arabia and Iran closer during this war.
[00:24:50] also played role in in in not
[00:24:53] having hostilities between those these two
[00:24:57] countries, turkey is different, turkey doesn't
[00:24:59] form part of those countries that have
[00:25:02] been that have been part of this war
[00:25:06] because the Iranian doctrine
[00:25:09] of of hitting American bases, so although
[00:25:13] it's a nato member, I don't think Turkish soil was used
[00:25:17] to used to attack attack Iran. so
[00:25:21] it's it's very important at this juncture, at this point
[00:25:25] of time, because Pakistan is involved
[00:25:28] in such such a high stakes
[00:25:32] mediation as the one between Iran and the US,
[00:25:36] so I think gradually as the war eases out and if
[00:25:40] this news of oman and Iran coming to an
[00:25:44] agreement on the states of hormos is concerned, it's a very good
[00:25:48] first step for the... you to be reserected
[00:25:51] in some form and for the countries to
[00:25:55] talk about it, so I think once there is
[00:25:58] peace or once there are this talk of peace,
[00:26:02] gradually other countries would be included,
[00:26:05] remember three
[00:26:08] is a the number three is still
[00:26:10] manageable, if you make it nine
[00:26:14] or 10 or say seven or eight, then
[00:26:17] sometimes it it's not manageable for for
[00:26:21] agreements to to work, they need to be
[00:26:25] manageable and these three countries don't
[00:26:29] have any iritants amongst themselves.
[00:26:33] so Turkey is an all-time friend, so is Saudi
[00:26:37] Arabia, Saudi Arabia and Turkey see I
[00:26:40] toi with each other, their
[00:26:42] complementarities have been pointed out by
[00:26:46] Sir Khalid very well, and and just
[00:26:50] to add to add to what he has said, Pakistan and Turkey
[00:26:54] especially have very, very robust air
[00:26:57] force
[00:26:58] air force relationship and Pakistan. as you
[00:27:02] know as is in defense partnership with Saudi
[00:27:06] Arabia, so I think there are lots of
[00:27:09] complementarities, whether we like it or not, whatever we
[00:27:13] say in from Israel,
[00:27:17] there will be sounds of caution
[00:27:20] and some
[00:27:23] trepidation, and so would there be trepidation
[00:27:26] from our eastern neighbor, but like like
[00:27:30] pointed out, it's not... aggressive against anybody, of course,
[00:27:34] if somebody steps on our tail then all bats are
[00:27:38] off. right, i understand that.
[00:27:42] um, last question to you, when we're looking at of course what
[00:27:44] Pakistan
[00:27:46] has played as a very central role in terms of
[00:27:49] mediating between Iran and the United States, we have seen that,
[00:27:53] especially also posted Mark, there has
[00:27:56] been very different ways in which the international
[00:27:59] community sees and interacts with Pakistan and... the role of
[00:28:03] mediator also enhanced this geopolitical position and
[00:28:07] because of result of Pakistan's proactive foreign policy we have seen these
[00:28:10] engagements taking place now with such agreements also
[00:28:14] being developed with the very important allies for Pakistan, how
[00:28:18] do you think that also continues to shape our geopolitical position
[00:28:22] and our foreign policy stunds and especially our outlook in the ways
[00:28:26] that different countries want to engage with
[00:28:28] Pakistan? Then If I if I take you
[00:28:32] back 14 months,
[00:28:34] may 2025, India has had miscalculated that we
[00:28:38] are less relevant to the world, when the attacks us, they thought that they are too
[00:28:42] relevant and Pakistan should be made irrelevant, that did not succeed and
[00:28:46] we earned our relevance, not to their liking obviously and
[00:28:49] became regional stabilizing player last
[00:28:52] May and fast forward to June
[00:28:55] 2026, we proved to the world that we are not only not
[00:28:59] sponsoring terrorism but we are a peace loving country which not only
[00:29:03] upholds its own sovereinity, but obviously we can significantly
[00:29:07] contribute to bringing a super power and obviously Iran to a
[00:29:10] common ground and make them work at least on the peace
[00:29:14] talks. number one, and then I keep saying most the time that
[00:29:18] globally you can buy a military equipment, you
[00:29:22] can buy industry, you can buy anything that you want to build,
[00:29:25] what you cannot buy through money is your influence, your
[00:29:29] impression and your narrative, that has been that has to be
[00:29:32] earned and we earned in last 14 months and the world considers
[00:29:36] us responsible country obviously which is keenly obviously
[00:29:40] interested in the global peace number one and that is why you see you
[00:29:44] do not do just by marketing yourself you do not create the influence you
[00:29:48] have you have to manifest you have to prove it and the last one year we have proven it
[00:29:52] to the world here is the country in spite of having challenges
[00:29:56] economically and on other fronts we still have great
[00:30:00] intentions of contributing so I think we ear the influence, we earned
[00:30:04] the relevance and the diplomatic platforms are one by one
[00:30:07] opening for us and world finds that now more credible partner in
[00:30:11] the peace instead of what our enemies had projected over the years and
[00:30:15] rather over the decades that this is nation which cannot be trusted and especially
[00:30:19] after our going nuclear lot of campaign went in against us saying
[00:30:23] that we are irresponsible country which obviously cannot be trusted by the global
[00:30:27] players so i think we found new relevance we hope and continue to
[00:30:30] contribute and the last thing like to add on ambassador Imran saying that
[00:30:34] I hope and pray tomorrow Iran can be made very into comforted zone
[00:30:38] by ensuring that this is nothing to do with the Iran and I'm
[00:30:42] sure Iran would understand that if there is vacuum between these
[00:30:46] regional countries it will create or invite aggression from
[00:30:49] especially Israel because they like to create relevance here in this
[00:30:53] region the more united we are may not be under an aggremant
[00:30:56] every country but I think the more cohesive relation.