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[00:00:00] that we are, our refineries do not operate to the full capacity [00:00:04] because they are unable to sell furness [00:00:07] oil, [00:00:10] in of so furnass oil, i would very strongly - that [00:00:14] of in a of war like situation in which we are and in serious [00:00:17] of economic constraints, we should seriously take a bold [00:00:26] seriously take a bold step in [00:00:31] optimum [00:00:32] of use of furness [00:00:33] of oil in our power plants so that the LNG which [00:00:37] is obviously all imported is is is [00:00:41] is could be [00:00:42] of replaced by ferness island you will immediately come up [00:00:45] with thank you so much for joining us and for telling [00:00:49] us the measures [00:00:50] in and the kind of alignment that Pakistan needs right now in the kind of pressure that is [00:00:54] very unprecedented not just for the world but for Pakistan as well this was [00:00:58] Mr. Mohammad are former member of Thank you so much sir for joining, ladies and [00:01:01] gentlemen, with that we take you to the second segment of our program, which is of course about the US [00:01:05] and Iran situation, it is been volatile, the straight of homos is [00:01:09] under pressure and lots of other developmental things [00:01:13] that we are looking at, we've been joined by Dr. Carl, Calton Tenner, [00:01:17] political analyst from Ohio, thank you so much Dr. Carl for joining [00:01:26] looking at the US and Iran situation, we know that there was about to be [00:01:30] an agreement between Iran and Gulf countries and [00:01:33] that has been stalled, how serious of [00:01:38] of a diplomatic setback is it that we are looking at in the current [00:01:40] situation? I would say very serious, [00:01:44] given the fact that the Hutis have made [00:01:48] real inroads of taking serious strategically important territory in [00:01:52] Yemen, this is huge problem for Saudi [00:01:54] Arabia, um, it's it's also huge problem for [00:01:58] for a good chunk [00:01:59] of the world. that this now [00:02:03] of could threaten shipping through the red sea [00:02:07] and once again put pressure [00:02:09] of on oil prices we saw when the territory that the oil [00:02:13] markets reacted pretty drastically so i [00:02:16] think unless there's some kind of [00:02:18] major breakthrough [00:02:21] between [00:02:22] the hoothies and the saudis i think the chances of peace [00:02:25] between the Iranians and the other gulf [00:02:28] states is is not [00:02:30] of eminent [00:02:33] of right sir, could you also since you actually thought up [00:02:37] hutis, could you also speak to the fact that for 10 years [00:02:41] they have been struggling to you maintain their [00:02:44] foothold and all of [00:02:46] in sudden it seems that their expansion is [00:02:50] you know really really getting a boost, where are [00:02:54] they getting money and resources from, because Iran we [00:02:58] are told is badly cashed. so who else it might be [00:03:02] supporting? well, the hoothies tax the [00:03:05] population that they control, that's not a very wealthy [00:03:09] population though, thes are talking about doing the same thing [00:03:13] the Iranians do in the straight off moves, which [00:03:17] a is asking ships to go through the territory that they [00:03:21] of of control to pay tols, but how are these getting money [00:03:24] of now? good question, [00:03:26] i don't think they're getting money directly from the Chinese or the Russians. [00:03:30] so they do get different forms of support from the Russians [00:03:34] and the Chinese. I think they [00:03:37] they are using the resources that they have. This [00:03:40] breakthrough that we saw was not really a consequence of [00:03:44] sudden surge of support from the outside. It was [00:03:47] more the fact that the hoothies used relatively [00:03:51] simple technology um such [00:03:54] of as drones that, not really very [00:03:58] sophisticated, but that would drop. munitions top of [00:04:02] armor [00:04:03] of um that the the internationally back government in Yemen [00:04:07] had, [00:04:07] you know, there's lots of video evidence to that, so this this is almost like the Houti's learn [00:04:11] lessons from the Ukrainians and just made major break though, I [00:04:15] think they caught the yemeni government forces kind of [00:04:19] flat-footed, and one [00:04:21] of the things that we see in war sometimes is that when you have [00:04:25] initial break through [00:04:27] of the rest [00:04:27] of the the military units. to panic and [00:04:31] flee, so we saw this, lot of equipment left [00:04:34] on the ground that it's simply been abandoned by these uni [00:04:37] forces, right? dr. kal, with [00:04:41] commercial shipping being totally disrupted, we have been talking about the straight [00:04:45] of hormers as well, just not that the red sea, the seizure [00:04:48] of the island from these hoothies, oil prices [00:04:52] remain high and you know is iran effectively [00:04:56] using this [00:04:57] of control over the state of homers or even the hot? control island [00:05:00] as economic leverage right now in the US Iran [00:05:04] battle or war? absolutely, absolutely. this [00:05:08] situation that that has occurred in Yemen is [00:05:12] kind of a... nightmare scenario for Donald Trump uh, well for the United [00:05:15] States in general, because now the Iranians have so much more [00:05:19] leverage than they did prior, and they had significant leverage with just the straight of [00:05:23] four moves, despite all the efforts on the part the United [00:05:27] States to break that leverage, targeted [00:05:30] strikes going after launch points uh in Iran that could [00:05:34] hit shipping in the straight of hormoves, but now with [00:05:38] the situation in Yemen, there there's kind of two points that are [00:05:42] now. controlled by pro Iranian forces [00:05:45] and so [00:05:47] the the bargaining situation for the United States has [00:05:51] deteriorated substantially because saying [00:05:55] well the Iranians are begging us to [00:05:57] negotiate um the Iranians may be saying hey now do you want to [00:06:01] negotiate with us and and get serious about our [00:06:05] terms um this this is very very [00:06:09] difficult situation [00:06:10] for the United States it's a very difficult. situation for Donald Trump [00:06:14] as the midterms approach and he [00:06:17] really has significant [00:06:21] concerns that the house of [00:06:23] representatives, probably not the senate, but the house of representatives [00:06:27] will go democrat, and then that creates a whole different political [00:06:30] situation from him, this this war hangs around his [00:06:33] neck like very heavy [00:06:35] weight, right? Dr. Karl, also we know [00:06:39] that Saudi Arabia is under pressure as well, their husband. [00:06:42] Saudi cities towards the south which have been attacked [00:06:46] by Hotis, there have been fresh launch of attacks through wave of [00:06:50] missiles and drone as well, and there have been civilian [00:06:54] injuries as well, does it mean that the US and Iran conflict [00:06:57] is now creating a new kind of situation where Saudi Arabia's [00:07:01] security is in crisis because civilians have been injured [00:07:05] and infrastructure as well, yeah I mean this this [00:07:09] war with Iran seems to spawned another. [00:07:13] i don't [00:07:13] really wrap up [00:07:14] this this war in the Iranian war, but it's it's a [00:07:18] consequence [00:07:18] in some ways the Iranian [00:07:22] war. i don't think we would have seen this had it not been for the [00:07:26] US attacks on Iran and [00:07:28] in the subsequent war. this is major [00:07:31] major problem for Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia does [00:07:35] not want to fight another war in Yemen does not want to see its cities [00:07:39] under attack. [00:07:41] This is kind of a... almost the worst case scenario, [00:07:45] and one the things that's important, Saudi Arabia asked the United States for help, [00:07:49] the United States said no, so why did the United States say no [00:07:52] to major ally asking for military [00:07:56] help? um, I think it's political, I think [00:08:00] Donald Trump doesn't want to open another front in the United States and get [00:08:04] accused of creating yet another forever war, [00:08:07] so this this has all kinds of ramifications, the Saudi [00:08:10] Arabia, look at the... United States as a [00:08:14] strong ally is someone they can turn to in times of [00:08:17] crisis. I think this may be [00:08:20] another point where the Saudis say, "I don't know if we can really trust the [00:08:24] American security guarantees." Maybe maybe the [00:08:28] Saudis then start to turn to others uh potentially China, [00:08:32] Russia. [00:08:32] I mean this is one the big concerns for the United States that Saudi Arabia starts to [00:08:36] pivot more towards those countries. Right, [00:08:39] regarding, [00:08:41] you know, I understand. your your take on this, but [00:08:44] regarding perspective of Iran, it is [00:08:48] astounding that the countries that actually [00:08:51] were leading lights in attacking, they are hardly coming under [00:08:55] attack now, it seems that is rile is not [00:08:58] being attacked at all, similarly UAE, [00:09:02] which was very close to you, is a trial, that [00:09:06] also seem to be you know free of any attack, but [00:09:09] countries which was sympathetic to a trans like Saudi [00:09:13] Arabia, which refused to be a part the war, it [00:09:17] is coming under war. what do you make of [00:09:20] it? is there some kind of taset agreement between [00:09:24] Telaviv and Tehran for that matter, something else is [00:09:28] going on? I doubt there's a tasset [00:09:32] agreement, that's not to say that I have any [00:09:35] kind of access to information that would indicate one [00:09:39] way or the other, but I doubt there's a tasset agreement between. Iran and [00:09:42] Israel, I think both sides would are are [00:09:45] basically um dealing with other issues [00:09:49] right now, [00:09:50] I mean Iranians don't want to antagonize the [00:09:54] Israelis and and bring another wave of attacks from the Israelis, [00:09:58] in order the Israelis want to deal with more attacks on [00:10:02] Israel right, or excuse me on Iran right now, given that they're dealing [00:10:06] with Lebanon given that they're dealing with lot of domestic political issues, there's an [00:10:10] upcoming election, and uh few weeks [00:10:14] in in Israel, so uh, I don't if I [00:10:18] call it tacid agreement, I think that both sides just don't have incentive to attack [00:10:22] each other right now, Saudi Arabia, on the other [00:10:25] hand um is very important because [00:10:29] not just [00:10:30] you know is is Saudi Arabia the enemy the [00:10:34] huties which is major ally for Iran [00:10:37] uh if if the Iranians can disrupt oil [00:10:41] markets and put more pressure on the United States [00:10:44] economically that's a huge win and that's exactly what's [00:10:48] happening so I think the Iranians are [00:10:51] strategic I think they've always been strategic. [00:10:55] um, this is not just, who do I like more than who do I not [00:10:59] like, I think this is got to do with a broader strategy the Iranians [00:11:03] have of of basically engaging economic [00:11:06] warfare against the United States, just as the United States is engaging [00:11:10] economic warfare against the Iranians, [00:11:13] right? Dr. Karl, since we are witnessing another [00:11:17] layer, another dimension, every single day, adding conflict, making it [00:11:21] an expanded conflict, and we fear so many things. from [00:11:25] oil disruptions to the global trade and so many things, but what is the point [00:11:29] where it stops and [00:11:31] you know can this conflict be really contained talking realistically? and [00:11:34] could you, do you see any of ramp at all [00:11:37] sir? [00:11:41] that's a that's a really difficult question to answer because to a [00:11:45] degree it requires me to predict Donald [00:11:49] Trump's policy, which is very hard to [00:11:52] do um... "I think for the [00:11:56] Iranians they would like this to end, but at the same point they're not [00:12:00] going to give up on their control the straight [00:12:03] of hor moves or negotiate away the Houti's [00:12:07] position in Yemen, for them, those those are ways to [00:12:11] to to basically deter further attacks [00:12:15] and that's what the Iranians would like to do, they'd like to [00:12:18] reestablish deterrents, so the United States and [00:12:22] Israel doesn't attack them anymore." so for [00:12:26] them, going on the off-ramp now doesn't [00:12:30] really make lot of sense, they need to, they need to really [00:12:33] solidify their control over the things that they have that gives [00:12:37] them that deterrant into the future. for Donald Trump, [00:12:41] this war is a political loser, it [00:12:45] is the most unpopular war that we've seen in in [00:12:49] American history since we've been doing opinion polling, very unpopular, [00:12:53] very unpopular even among. [00:12:55] republicans, having said that, he [00:12:58] doesn't want to appear weak. I mean, this is one of Donald Trump's [00:13:01] biggest fears is that he looks like he's surrendering, he [00:13:05] looks like he's weak, and [00:13:09] you know, unfortunately [00:13:11] for him, uh, he's not in a position to just say, okay, we're [00:13:15] done, if the Iranians control a straight of [00:13:18] formus, um, he's kind of said, well, I'm not going to care [00:13:22] about what goes over on, what happens over in Yemen and the... sea [00:13:25] area, but the straight of all moves, he can't just walk away from [00:13:29] that, um, because people will hold him accountable for [00:13:32] it, somehow has to create a [00:13:35] situation where the Iranians don't control the straight, [00:13:38] absolutely, Dr. Karl, we really get your point that [00:13:42] it is very difficult situation to be in for both these countries with the strategy [00:13:46] the US or Iranian, and thank you so very much for you, sharing [00:13:50] your opinion and perspective in detail regarding not just the strategies, but of [00:13:53] course your views. on the current situation that we see every day regarding [00:13:57] US and Iran. This was Dr. Karl Canton Teller, political analyst [00:14:01] joining us from Ohio. We really thank you for your time. Ladies and gentlemen, with [00:14:05] that we move to the third segment of our program. We know that one year has [00:14:09] been completed. Pakistan TV has uh marked this one [00:14:13] year with one single goal and that has been really uh [00:14:16] presenting Pakistan's perspective, Pakistan's story to the rest the world, just [00:14:20] not that it has achieved so much in this one year. We have Faruk [00:14:23] Pafi. How do you see this remarkable journey of [00:14:27] Pakistan TVs one year? Thank you very much. I [00:14:31] think before I actually talk about this very important [00:14:34] relaunch or this launch of Pakistan TV, one has to [00:14:38] actually remind everybody that I have been associated with the English [00:14:42] television channel of Pakistan PTV for that [00:14:46] matter for you quite a long time since [00:14:50] it's very start. So when it was conceived first in [00:14:54] 2013? "you know initially there was some boost, [00:14:58] but then everything kept on going by default, so [00:15:02] whatever content we were generating was by default, and there was [00:15:06] hardly any energy, any kind of global [00:15:09] reach or focus, right? then comes this [00:15:13] project and same resources, few more people, [00:15:16] and then they have actually literally transformed the [00:15:20] whole persona the channel of project, that is not [00:15:24] all." [00:15:25] the kind of guests you have, the kind of coverages you have, the kind of [00:15:28] approach you have, usually [00:15:31] you know with PTV is access, it used to be PTV used to be [00:15:35] the last person to speak. any public [00:15:39] event and would be actually the last sitting man in [00:15:43] the event, but then we got the new leadership and [00:15:47] we got the new project and we have seen that PTV [00:15:50] uh Pakistan TV has been actually leading from the front [00:15:54] and most the news that is created or it is [00:15:58] happening in Pakistan or is related to Pakistan, for [00:16:02] example even in the west when negotiations were taking [00:16:05] place it [00:16:07] was through... Pakistan tv spetism its [00:16:10] eyes that the world was seeing the whole development, [00:16:14] so Pakistan television has revolutionized the [00:16:18] way our English media was working and I think that [00:16:22] even though now they have few more private [00:16:26] channels, English channels, but the way Pakistan [00:16:29] television actually covers this, the story [00:16:33] is you know unmatched by anybody else, absolutely far can [00:16:37] just not... the point that we are not just limited to television [00:16:40] screens as well, in this era of social media and so much [00:16:43] fabricated stories, how well do you see Pakistan TV has [00:16:47] really comes to fact checking, when it comes to realistically [00:16:51] giving away the stories, whatever the reporting or the events that you were [00:16:55] mentioning, and then making its mark on the social media, adding millions of [00:16:59] viewers across the globe, how big of an achievement is [00:17:02] that for Pakistan TV? again, when [00:17:06] when the the... this iteration was actually [00:17:09] happening when it was going on, usually [00:17:13] everything would be actually focused on the screen, [00:17:17] nothing else, right? and along comes Pakistan [00:17:20] television, Pakistan TV, and then what we start [00:17:24] seeing is also a focus on social media, but [00:17:27] then remember that when something is [00:17:30] contrafted intelligently, it also shows [00:17:34] on social media as well. I can go on for. hours [00:17:38] talking about nothing or I can actually use five minute [00:17:42] spot quite effectively right, so when you [00:17:46] start packaging properly, the reach encourages and the [00:17:50] appeal encourages and this is exactly what we have seen, [00:17:54] pakistan, Pakistan TV has [00:17:57] actually outpaced anything else [00:18:00] reaching somewhere around 500 million [00:18:04] you know views and likes and that is something. which [00:18:08] is really laudible, I think that right now we [00:18:11] realize that we have to be on every platform and we have [00:18:15] to reach everybody who who is ready to listen to our [00:18:19] perspective. It is very important, as you pointed out that [00:18:23] we are living a post truth society, global [00:18:26] society, there everybody thinks that they are not [00:18:30] entitled to the their opinions, but their [00:18:34] facts also, so it is very important to correct. all the [00:18:37] facts and keep on checking facts as well, so that we also [00:18:41] do and for not to forget something very important, [00:18:45] you not really was an achievement when I heard it for the first time, it was the way [00:18:49] I was being told Jazira mentioned, there are so many instances [00:18:53] where international channels has, they have referred to our channel when it comes [00:18:57] to Pakistan's narrative, so what actually changed in the strategy you were [00:19:01] talking about the strategy the new leadership as well and how well are we presenting the [00:19:05] geopolitical vision when it comes to that? just actually [00:19:09] carry out a small small experiment, you [00:19:12] know PTV worlds videos are also [00:19:16] available online right, just go watch them and then see [00:19:20] what kind of content we have produced now, so [00:19:23] every aspect of a communication has to be [00:19:27] optimized, screen has to be optimized, the text has to [00:19:31] be optimized, the the voice and images have to be [00:19:35] optimized and this is exactly. what we have done [00:19:38] once you actually start creating news, [00:19:42] focusing on news, then it becomes [00:19:45] quite easy for other channels also to [00:19:48] reference or showcase your work. you you mentioned [00:19:52] al-jazira, think i can you know [00:19:55] include all sorts of international channels that have actually [00:19:59] bted from pakistan tv and the content has been [00:20:03] mentioned repeatedly, so that that [00:20:06] again uh... is a proof that we have the kind of [00:20:10] credibility that perhaps for a long time we were [00:20:14] liking because there was hardly any focus on the [00:20:17] kind of optimization of content that is going on right [00:20:21] now absolutely far and when you were about the communication strategy i [00:20:25] was just wondering there is so much competition out there when you [00:20:29] specifically talk about short video formats when you talk about the visual you [00:20:33] know storytelling and there needs to be an attraction in the visual. [00:20:37] front as well, just just not the voices, just not the content, [00:20:40] so how have you seen since you were the part of PTV world as well, how have [00:20:44] you seen the transformation when it comes to the communication strategy? I [00:20:48] think that the... "actual revolution has come in [00:20:52] understanding the nature of every medium, every platform, in [00:20:56] the past it wasn't the case, as you pointed out, there are a [00:20:59] platform like tiktok or for that matter, [00:21:02] you know various other like insta where you need a very short [00:21:06] critisk kind of [00:21:07] you take, and we were not doing that, what we were doing [00:21:11] was you know cutting out chunks of talk shows and just [00:21:15] publishing them right, all of sudden every platform [00:21:19] mattered." because remember that half the world [00:21:23] is watching everything through mobile phones, so who holds a [00:21:26] mobile phone horizontally or vertically is also important, you [00:21:30] have to remember the nature the platform, and this is [00:21:34] exactly what we are doing, we are coming to you through [00:21:38] every platform that you prefer a manner that you [00:21:41] prefer rather than actually forcing our own [00:21:45] choices upon conventional designs. thank you very much f [00:21:48] with fafi for being part of our show. Ladies and gentlemen, we the one year of Pakistan's [00:21:52] TV's successful journey, the way it has come along and the way it has [00:21:56] covered events with a stronger voice, with [00:21:58] a stronger global presence, with a stronger impact and [00:22:01] of course with growing global audience as well. We hope that this journey [00:22:05] continues with credible news and of course the credible reportings that we have been [00:22:08] giving you since one year, and uh this was the end of our show, we [00:22:12] conclude the show here right now, this is Mahinja for signing off, stay tuned to [00:22:16] Pakistan TV. [00:22:46] From the heart of South Asia to the cross roads of central Asia. from the turbulent middle [00:22:50] east and north africa to the power corridors the west. i think [00:22:54] that the proxy situation is very [00:22:57] problematic uh for the [00:23:01] US, for Israel, for around, the gulf [00:23:05] states, for the world at large. this [00:23:09] conflict could expand. that's what Pakistan and [00:23:13] Katar are trying to prevent. Israel wants the [00:23:17] land of Palestine without the Palestinian people. "and that is [00:23:20] why we see the situation in [00:23:24] Gaza being getting getting worse. Field [00:23:28] Marshall Muneer and Oman have have kept the channel open when nothing else was working, and that [00:23:32] matters. And of course the cease fire came through Islamabad. [00:23:35] Gender persecution is already a crime against humanity under the [00:23:39] Rome statute, and the international criminal court has [00:23:43] issued arrest warrants for the two top taliban [00:23:47] leaders. And Sheikhkani." "who is the [00:23:50] chief justice? I suspect that the Canadians [00:23:54] are going to pressure on areas that will cause lot of [00:23:58] discomfort to the Americans as they're coming into the midterm [00:24:02] elections in November. Iran's declaration that does [00:24:06] not intend to produce a nuclear weapon is [00:24:09] politically relevant, but declarations alone cannot [00:24:13] resolves the security dilemma. Iran has always said it's prepared to [00:24:17] continue the conflict, but it's clear that it's pr'. says for this war to [00:24:21] end, the US and the Trump administration I think is the same, so there is [00:24:24] alignment, but obviously the problem has been, how we get [00:24:28] there, [00:24:50] the one assessment that used to take like a week now can be done in 10 [00:24:54] minutes and unfortunately I think there's a [00:24:58] possibility that some of Modi's advisers are saying [00:25:02] that is what India must do and therefore India has to look to the [00:25:31] it had the credibility of a strong nation, it had the [00:25:35] credibility of neutrality that both parties could trust, and above [00:25:38] all Pakistan was and is legitimate [00:26:02] geography is very strategic, very important, it connects [00:26:06] multiple regions. we are a higher platform, a higher [00:26:09] pedestal. this new phase in which we are now a [00:26:13] mutual defense agreement brings together two the [00:26:17] muslim world's strongest militaries and military capabilities [00:26:21] which are pakistan and turkey. gaza situation is [00:26:24] even more perturbing and it doesn't seem that [00:26:28] mean the the current sort of Israeli action. there [00:26:32] i mean they are not willing to relinquish sort the [00:26:36] territory that they have occupied, if President Trump [00:26:39] is able to get this kind of this this armment to take place in [00:26:43] in in in Gaza uh this would be huge victory for [00:26:47] him, but it's a matter of bringing bringing the Israeli [00:26:50] Israel particularly to the table [00:26:52] who who's already rejected this kind of us back road map, the fact that the Israeli [00:26:56] military and government and militia and illegal [00:26:59] settlers are kind of collaborating to take Kuwait these lands [00:27:03] and occupy them and settle them with Israelis. These [00:27:07] deployments are very demanding, both on the equipment and on the [00:27:10] crew. There are uh roughly 4,800 [00:27:14] personnel aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln if you include the ship's crew [00:27:18] and the air wing um and they have been at sea now [00:27:22] for uh nine months continuously. Iran tends to [00:27:25] play the game, what we say, they continue the dance. The United States wants [00:27:29] a ring to come to the table and they're making concessions to get. come to the table and [00:27:33] Aron's making demands for additional concessions to get to the [00:27:37] table. [00:30:13] Hello and welcome to pakistan tv with the news of this hour, I'm zira Bukhari, let's have look [00:30:17] at the [00:30:17] headlines. [00:30:34] Saudi Arabia was firm responses huti mizion 13 [00:30:38] civilians and damaged [00:30:39] homes. [00:30:46] Secretary general of Organization of Islamic operation condemns continued huti [00:30:50] mility attacks on civilian targets in Saudi Arabia. Ismail [00:30:54] J. Ahmed wants that such hostile regional and international efforts [00:30:58] aimed at achieving stability in Yemen.