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[00:00:00] and Saudi Arabia, air power itself alone
[00:00:03] cannot you know win a war, it
[00:00:06] can
[00:00:08] you know
[00:00:10] of severely damage the enemy or severely reduce its
[00:00:14] of capabilities, but at the end
[00:00:18] of of the day the conflict can only be one of by putting boots on ground, so I suggest that you know
[00:00:22] Pakistan air force has lot of capability, we have very good intelligence
[00:00:26] in Afghanistan about the terrorist hide out camps and and from
[00:00:30] where the taskils are made and
[00:00:31] of sent to Pakistan, we must take our friends
[00:00:35] in the region and internationally into
[00:00:38] confidence and we must
[00:00:41] you know start a blitz creek
[00:00:45] operation the dimension related to
[00:00:56] with brigadian navas, brigadier navas, right to self-defend,
[00:01:00] "when dgi SPRPR says that if failure happens on the
[00:01:04] part
[00:01:04] of of the defacto authorities, they don't uphold the international commitment, pakistan
[00:01:08] has the right to
[00:01:09] of self-defend. there is suggestion there has also been
[00:01:11] of made by a Marshall Said Khan as well
[00:01:15] that there are certain limitations,
[00:01:17] me of course there is a proas when it comes to the air strikes,
[00:01:21] but he's also suggesting putting the boots on the ground, what's
[00:01:25] your analysis in that regard sir? what I personally
[00:01:29] think the..." for definitely sites have been we have been doing
[00:01:32] of and we must go because it goods on ground the
[00:01:35] issue is that one we have to cross the international
[00:01:39] border number two we are going to give a chance to
[00:01:42] afghans
[00:01:44] of that pakistan international
[00:01:45] in border third is that they have no arm arm forces over
[00:01:49] there regular arm forces are not there so the more we go
[00:01:53] inside then of course they will start
[00:01:55] of again having problem like the american face because they don't accept goods
[00:01:59] and another different type of war
[00:02:02] in will start out,
[00:02:03] so it is better that we continue doing our counter terrorism operation in
[00:02:07] Pakistan intelligent based operation which we
[00:02:10] of are already doing around 200 to 250 operations and also
[00:02:13] yes we have all authentic information we must go
[00:02:17] to the leaders of afghan
[00:02:19] of regime and leaders number one number two we have
[00:02:22] already caused lot of damage in the ground air
[00:02:26] in base where over 100 we destroyed their drones.
[00:02:30] then we destroyed their all night fighting fighting
[00:02:34] of goggles then their tanks their APCs night fighting
[00:02:38] capability destroyed really an amunition bridges we
[00:02:41] destroyed from there to cross over it but the point what i want to
[00:02:45] highlight that my life was not loud and clear
[00:02:49] that americans have left eminion 7.2 billion dollars
[00:02:53] and
[00:02:54] of 30 million dollar every week they giving and there is
[00:02:57] of no of check and balance then then now Pakistan stature
[00:03:01] is very high, we have
[00:03:03] of given crushing defeat to Indian in Mark, we have become
[00:03:07] a regional stabilizer, we got net security provided in
[00:03:11] a totally isolated, president Trump listens what right field marshall, then
[00:03:14] of course the whole world is listening us, we have done a tremendous job in
[00:03:18] peacekeeping, this is the time you must catch this position,
[00:03:22] you must go to security council, we tell them to pass
[00:03:25] a resolution through the help of china that
[00:03:29] now within six month if indian
[00:03:31] this do not hold fair pre transparent
[00:03:35] general actions then we should impos
[00:03:38] economic sanctions americans and european union
[00:03:42] ngos nobody will give financial support i think they will understand
[00:03:46] immediately what is going but the problem is every time you declare
[00:03:50] 24 tax organizations 30 2000
[00:03:54] terrorists over there alkita training them
[00:03:56] 6000 what have they done practically major have? taken
[00:04:00] anything when you left this
[00:04:02] a ammunition where Pakistan confronting alone and we are
[00:04:05] facing k enough today we lost two officers and you
[00:04:08] know
[00:04:10] our officer
[00:04:11] from whether it so brigadier Navas there is one dimension to your opinion
[00:04:15] as well when we talk about the efficacy of
[00:04:19] sanctions there number of measures in form
[00:04:23] of sanctions the already been imposed we know for fact that Afghanistan has been war
[00:04:27] raves there is
[00:04:28] a dire humanitarian and economic crisis at the same
[00:04:31] time Pakistani authorities in advocating that case for the Afghan national
[00:04:35] Afghan people that and then
[00:04:38] there was
[00:04:38] of a case
[00:04:39] of the Frozen Afghan assets also now
[00:04:42] don't you think with
[00:04:43] of the imposition of more sanctions this impact
[00:04:47] is going to actually trickle down to the very common man
[00:04:51] and that is actually going to aggravate the suffering
[00:04:55] and the kind of situation that been facing for so many
[00:04:58] years now. so that is going to result into a spill over
[00:05:03] a effect towards the regional countries, what do you say about that? well, the problem is
[00:05:07] yes, they are getting 30 million dollar out of 9 billion dollar which they they
[00:05:10] have been frozen by the. americans, but the problem is that you
[00:05:14] find a management mechanism, you make American and
[00:05:18] European Union and security congress should send a
[00:05:22] monitoring team, this money should be handed over to those moniting
[00:05:26] team and they carried all reconstruction, then
[00:05:29] different or they should ensure funds are being
[00:05:33] used for women's development, human rights organization, there no law, there
[00:05:37] is no cour, wrong interpretation of islam, islam
[00:05:41] then what is happening? girls the don't go to school, they no opportunity for
[00:05:44] women, so all these should be monitored, but the
[00:05:48] many is coming to them and it is being vanish, it's not being spent over
[00:05:52] there, that is what afghan taliban wants, and then who stops them to
[00:05:56] force and general elections, the moment general action,
[00:06:00] even now you see there are so many
[00:06:03] this antiban movements are are coming
[00:06:06] up, you see the badsan area pancharies are coming
[00:06:09] up, then aham group is
[00:06:13] there movements, anti taliban group, they are all standing up
[00:06:17] now and they are coming in number they are started
[00:06:21] killing this taliban, so these things have to be done,
[00:06:24] something has to be met to made by the world, because they
[00:06:28] left and they created problem and let tell you what are the reason, let be very
[00:06:31] clear, why american left 7.2 billion dollars weapon
[00:06:35] ammunition, why the giving them money and no
[00:06:39] prinative action being taken, because you see Pakistan. is the
[00:06:43] only nuclear country some nuclear country, our just
[00:06:46] location is very good, our arm forces are better harden the
[00:06:50] profession and if to gather court and cpac
[00:06:54] we can have economic prosperity that means we will take the sin
[00:06:58] a national interest without being controlled by world
[00:07:01] bank and that is what they don't want, this is India,
[00:07:05] Israel and other countries, so here is Pakistan now a
[00:07:09] status is high, we must talk to American, we talk to
[00:07:13] Chinese, they should go take a case to security council and put
[00:07:17] pressure on the word that they find a solution or give Pakistan a
[00:07:21] matching, it's time for Pakistan to actually capitalize on the
[00:07:24] position, the standing it has achieved due to its diplomatic
[00:07:28] feat right now and in order to impress upon the international community
[00:07:32] as well as the United Nations Security Council to come up with some sort of a concrete
[00:07:36] mechanism when it comes to holding the defacto authorities in
[00:07:39] Afghanistan accountable brigadier retired.
[00:07:49] your earlier suggestion when you talk of putting the boots on the ground, I want your
[00:07:53] quicker answer regarding that possible
[00:07:56] option, aren't there any risks involved in also when it
[00:08:00] comes to the cost of such an
[00:08:02] endeavor,
[00:08:05] when Jabad, I was talking of putting boots on ground,
[00:08:09] I sincerely believe that, "two
[00:08:12] things must immediately happen: one, the the
[00:08:16] durant line should be made, the international border, whether
[00:08:19] Afghanistan agrees to it or not, one, and number two, there
[00:08:23] should be buffer zone between Pakistan and Afghanistan,
[00:08:27] now it can be five kilometers as we had
[00:08:31] suggested, you know, four five months
[00:08:34] earlier, or it can be 15 kilometers
[00:08:38] and anybody who enters from their side without -
[00:08:42] permission or their permission must be taken as
[00:08:45] an as as a terrorist and
[00:08:49] must be taken out, you know we just cannot
[00:08:52] allow Afghanies to come into
[00:08:55] Pakistan undetected and you know
[00:08:59] create havic which they have been doing since the beginning of this
[00:09:02] year. Every Pakistani life is very precious and we
[00:09:06] really need to put you know the things in the correct
[00:09:10] perspective.
[00:09:11] You know you cannot. safety of every every single life remains to be the
[00:09:15] priority for Pakistan and such militants such as the Fitnaal
[00:09:19] Khawarij and fitnal Hindustan remained to be absolute red line for
[00:09:22] Pakistan. Mr. Air Marshall retired Said Khan
[00:09:37] we are going to talk about that very statement uh by President
[00:09:40] Donald Trump when it comes to. "the US reaching an
[00:09:44] agreement with Denmark and Greenland that would
[00:09:48] give a permanent control of security to the US of
[00:09:52] Greenland and all other needs. I'll
[00:09:55] quote what he had to say, the United States has reached an
[00:09:59] agreement that would give the US permanent control over security
[00:10:03] and all other needs in Greenland. The United States will
[00:10:07] forever have the complete ability to do what is
[00:10:11] necessary in Greenland. in order to secure and defend the security
[00:10:15] of Greenland and the United States of
[00:10:18] America, unquote also at the same time, both
[00:10:21] Denmark and the autonomous region Greenland have expressed. the hope
[00:10:25] that deal would actually help reduce friction
[00:10:29] between the US and Denmark, why they
[00:10:33] are saying so? because we know for fact there were earlier statements made by
[00:10:37] President Donald Trump regarding taking the
[00:10:40] ownership of Greenland because the national
[00:10:44] security concerns. also, what Greenland's
[00:10:48] prime minister has said that he was pleased with the proposed deal, the
[00:10:51] agreement recognizes the sovereignty and the territorial integrity. of our
[00:10:55] kingdom and the right the greenlandic people to self
[00:10:59] determination. At the same time, the foreign minister of Denmark
[00:11:02] says next week could be a good week for Greenland, Denmark
[00:11:06] and the US. A time of uncertainity will hopefully give way to
[00:11:10] binding agreement that strengthens security in the Arctic
[00:11:14] and the North Atlantic and thereby our shared security within the
[00:11:18] NATO Europe while respecting the Danish
[00:11:21] kingdom's red lines. At the same time. nato
[00:11:25] has welcomed this agreement. wel try
[00:11:29] to understand what does that agreement actually signified,
[00:11:33] which is slated to be signed on the sidelines the
[00:11:37] United Nations General Assembly session. for that we are honored to
[00:11:40] being joined by Mr. Ambassador. he is Pakistan's
[00:11:44] ambassador to Denmark. Ambassador shoib server, thank you very
[00:11:48] much for being with us on unfold tonight. we really appreciate
[00:11:54] when there is... so much of crises which are unfolding as
[00:11:58] we speak all around the globe, how
[00:12:01] significant this particular
[00:12:04] maneuver or of diplomacy between the United
[00:12:08] States of America and Denmark, do you think is, is
[00:12:12] it a breath of a fresh
[00:12:23] win for diplomacy and "and we were expecting
[00:12:26] this come from the statements which were coming
[00:12:29] from the danish capital in the
[00:12:32] last few days and as well as some indications
[00:12:36] from Washington DC and certainly that the both the
[00:12:39] countries who are close
[00:12:42] allies have sorted out their differences on the way
[00:12:46] forward how the the territory of Greenland is going to be
[00:12:49] handled and addition to these two countries there is also third
[00:12:53] party which is the" greenlandic government, because although
[00:12:57] Denmark sovereinity the
[00:12:58] has over this territory, but the
[00:13:01] few years back parliament of Denmark passed legislation
[00:13:05] giving the greenlandic island internal
[00:13:09] autonomy as well as the right to self determination if
[00:13:13] they want to, but as of today
[00:13:17] the this area is still part the kingdom of Denmark
[00:13:20] and the fact that the both these allies have sorted out
[00:13:24] there. is certainly a welcome development for the
[00:13:28] world and and the significance of
[00:13:30] it is that they are also going to be signing it during the UN general
[00:13:34] assembly session which is going to be held in New York just in
[00:13:38] few days which is it also has a
[00:13:41] significant symbolic significance so when i
[00:13:45] think win for all the parties
[00:13:52] specifically talk about this is feat of
[00:13:56] diplomacy that has been achieved, of course there hasn't been any confrontation, of
[00:13:59] course the friction went to a certain extent with those statements
[00:14:03] already coming from President Trump himself regarding taking ownership
[00:14:07] of Greenland that actually saw the inter relationship
[00:14:10] between NATO as well, but at the same time
[00:14:14] this agreement is feat of diplomacy, we have seen
[00:14:18] the the crisis unfolding all around the globe when we specifically talk about the
[00:14:22] US Israel war on Iran, number of other fronts have
[00:14:26] opened up in the middle east, we talk about the Ukraine crisis as
[00:14:29] well, so do you think diplomacy
[00:14:33] stands chance in those cases as well, and this
[00:14:37] particular instance, this particular agreement between
[00:14:41] the US and Denmark could actually set a new
[00:14:44] foundation for the diplomacy to actually work in this time
[00:14:48] of great crisis, see
[00:14:52] everywhere wherever there is bow ' after that even you
[00:14:56] resort to diplomacy either even before resorting to
[00:15:00] war the countries engage in diplomacy and the diplomacy
[00:15:03] fails then the war starts and to stop the war also the
[00:15:07] countries engage in diplomacy so in the end the solution is resorting to
[00:15:11] diplomacy but here i think the
[00:15:15] situation in the middle east or
[00:15:19] or the us iran issue or the palestina issue
[00:15:22] are a bit different from Greenland,
[00:15:26] because this was difference of opinion between
[00:15:29] two allies, United States and Denmark, so
[00:15:33] although there was friction, there were statements coming from both the capitals, but we need...
[00:15:37] to remember that essentially they both are close
[00:15:41] ally countries and even today there
[00:15:44] are us troops based
[00:15:47] in Greenland and and both are also members of
[00:15:51] NATO which bound the United States to also
[00:15:55] come to the rescue of Europe in case
[00:15:58] of any threat to
[00:16:01] the to their peace and stability so I
[00:16:05] think so these are two. differences
[00:16:08] actually which makes this situation
[00:16:11] unique, but certainly what was different
[00:16:15] was that, although the both Denmark and the US are
[00:16:19] allies, but the thing coming out in public
[00:16:23] and the retrict was something which was
[00:16:26] unprecedented that the both these allies were coming
[00:16:30] out in public and
[00:16:31] you know expressing their difference of opinion on the issue, but as they
[00:16:35] have been able to settle it, and as well
[00:16:38] as the Danish government is also happy,
[00:16:42] Greenland government is happy and the United States is happy, so all the parties are
[00:16:45] happy, so I think that is in itself is a
[00:16:49] win for for peace and and for the prospects of
[00:16:53] diplomacy going forward,
[00:17:00] became so much important for President Trump's
[00:17:03] administration that he gave out the statements of even
[00:17:07] going. out and taking the ownership of Greenland,
[00:17:11] he cited the national security concerns and also
[00:17:14] referring to China and Russia perhaps
[00:17:17] having their trade
[00:17:21] roots from there as well, so in that particular regard is it only the national
[00:17:25] security concern or do you cite any other
[00:17:29] motivations or reasons behind Trump's administration
[00:17:33] becoming so keen in
[00:17:38] "you have to remember there
[00:17:40] is already an existing agreement between the United States and Denmark which they
[00:17:43] signed in 1951 which governs the deployment the
[00:17:47] US military in Greenland and during the cold war there were lot
[00:17:51] of US bases and in Greenland which
[00:17:55] US after the end the cold world
[00:17:58] decreased but today there is one active
[00:18:01] base see the thing is that from the US
[00:18:05] perspective I think we
[00:18:07] have to under" stand a long term
[00:18:10] security situation how it is evolving, although Greenland is
[00:18:14] part of Denmark but it is located in North America
[00:18:18] and it it is very close to
[00:18:20] Canada
[00:18:22] so this is a unique situation in that regard and there is
[00:18:26] also a demand in Greenland which
[00:18:29] it is a population of around 50 / 5000 that the majority
[00:18:33] the population want independence actually from
[00:18:37] Denmark and they are bulk the
[00:18:41] population is native Greenlandic population which is
[00:18:45] closed to Native Americans actually, so but
[00:18:49] but the reason that they have not gone for independence is up
[00:18:53] till now because it's a very large territory and
[00:18:57] with the 50000 population it's very difficult to
[00:19:00] establish an independent state and
[00:19:02] a viable economy, even today
[00:19:05] the the government of Denmark. heavily subsidizes the
[00:19:09] welfare and the administration of of government of of
[00:19:13] Greenland, so so economically as of
[00:19:17] today
[00:19:18] it is not possible for Greenland to have an independent
[00:19:22] act as an independent state, but the sentiment is there, so I
[00:19:25] think from the US perspective, it was also important
[00:19:29] consideration that who knows where the future
[00:19:33] would go, and and because the Danish Parliament also
[00:19:36] passed. few years back giving this right to government
[00:19:40] of to the people of Denmark, people of Greenland that they
[00:19:44] can decide their future if they want to go their own
[00:19:48] way, so I think
[00:19:50] and and and we also know that with the this climate
[00:19:53] change, there is a melting of ice and and
[00:19:56] different and there is a possibility of emergence of
[00:20:00] new maritime roots and the arctic
[00:20:04] region will become very very important in that regard, there will be increased
[00:20:07] maritime traffic through this area and greenland is
[00:20:11] also believed to have a large deposits of minerals and and
[00:20:15] lot these minerals are very important
[00:20:18] for ingredients in the
[00:20:22] manufacturing of very sensitive and high tech
[00:20:25] equipment so all although many large
[00:20:28] deposits are still to be extracted because the infrastructure in
[00:20:32] Greenland is not there so certainly the US perspective
[00:20:36] in this regard is a long term one, so they
[00:20:39] although they have a presence there and Denmark
[00:20:43] and United States are close allies, but I think the
[00:20:46] United States administration wanted to take was
[00:20:50] looking at things from the long term perspective as there are different
[00:20:53] geostrategic changes going on in the world so there
[00:20:57] so given that it is part the American
[00:21:01] continent they wanted to ensure the continuity their
[00:21:05] rights in the more effective manner and I think this agreement whose details
[00:21:09] are yet to be released publically and shows
[00:21:11] and addresses that their concerns
[00:21:15] by having an agreement which
[00:21:20] is those
[00:21:29] of us interest when it comes to large deposits of rare
[00:21:33] earth minerals and other mineral resources, also
[00:21:37] Washington trying to reduce its dependence on China
[00:21:40] in that particular regard, also as you already mentioned with the
[00:21:44] emergence of new maritime roots, do we
[00:21:48] understand in the future, keeping in view both
[00:21:51] China and Russia with the emergence these new
[00:21:55] maritime roots, Greenland might become a new
[00:21:59] theater the great power
[00:22:08] happening anywhere, we know that with with the
[00:22:11] world balance of power changing as the power is
[00:22:14] shifting towards Asia and as the economic
[00:22:18] power countries are gaining weight,
[00:22:21] you know, there is also rivalry increasing in
[00:22:25] that region, so certainly
[00:22:27] you know as the economic activity in this any any
[00:22:31] area increases, the risk the military
[00:22:34] concentration also increases, because the countries move forward
[00:22:38] to or take steps to further enhance their economic
[00:22:42] interest and ensure try to ensure that their economic interest are you
[00:22:46] know enhanced through military means also and and so that they
[00:22:50] can protect their interest you know a more effective
[00:22:58] what do Denmark and Greenland get in return
[00:23:01] once president Trump says that an
[00:23:04] agreement, according
[00:23:06] to which the US would have a complete control and a
[00:23:10] permanent control of Greenland's security, so there must be
[00:23:14] an agreement, there must be some sort of a thing
[00:23:17] which would be in favor of Greenland. and Denmark,
[00:23:21] what ideally could be the key takeaways for
[00:23:35] since the war in Ukraine, this
[00:23:38] and and the announcement by the US administration that that
[00:23:42] they might be cutting some troops going forward and they
[00:23:46] have
[00:23:46] been asking the their NATO members of Europe. increase
[00:23:50] their defense budget and so that they become more
[00:23:53] self-reliant in defense, you
[00:23:56] know, there has
[00:23:58] been a perception in the in Europe that going forward
[00:24:01] probably US would not be as enthusiastic or
[00:24:05] keen to ensure the European
[00:24:08] security, so I think in that
[00:24:11] regard
[00:24:13] the the emergence of issue of Greenland as
[00:24:17] bone of contention between Europe and America was something
[00:24:21] which was source of concern to all the European countries and with
[00:24:25] this, I think being resolved, I think it will
[00:24:29] strengthen the the collective transatlantic
[00:24:32] security
[00:24:34] and as regards the government of Denmark is
[00:24:37] concerned, you know, I think the fact
[00:24:40] that the the agreement reiterates and
[00:24:43] accepts the Danish sovereinity over
[00:24:46] Greenland is is something.
[00:24:50] which which was sort of red line for the
[00:24:53] danish government and I think the United
[00:24:56] States has has accepted that as well
[00:25:00] as from what I read in the newspapers is
[00:25:04] also that and the the Greenland's prime minister has
[00:25:07] also given a statement regarding that
[00:25:11] their right to self determination has also been you
[00:25:14] know accepted that in that agreement
[00:25:18] so I think it's a "it's a
[00:25:21] really the agreement is a sort
[00:25:25] of immense source of satisfaction for the Danish
[00:25:29] government that you know their closest ally
[00:25:33] and guaranter their security the United States is now you
[00:25:37] know they they had this issue and now the fact that they have
[00:25:41] resolved it through amicably through negotiations and
[00:25:45] put late to rest this issue and now they
[00:25:49] can concentrate on"
[00:25:55] what i do understand from your take excellency is that it's a
[00:25:58] more of a win-win situation for all rather than
[00:26:02] zeros game for the United States of America, do we
[00:26:05] understand that this agreement would actually lead to more
[00:26:09] investment, job creation and development when it
[00:26:12] comes to specifically Greenland itself is
[00:26:26] few years, the government of Denmark has also
[00:26:29] announced more...
[00:26:32] investments plans for Greenland to help make
[00:26:36] it further develop its infrastructure, so it's
[00:26:40] already an ongoing process and certainly
[00:26:43] for for more conducive investment environment
[00:26:47] any area or any country, it is important to have
[00:26:51] peace, stability and reliability, and this
[00:26:54] agreement sort of makes clear going forward
[00:26:58] where what the legal framework of greenland would be and
[00:27:02] sort of it will ensure stability
[00:27:06] status, clarity about the status of greenland
[00:27:09] and that would certainly
[00:27:11] encourage the western companies to
[00:27:15] invest more in Greenland, especially if they want to extract these
[00:27:19] minerals and all these things which we here, so for that
[00:27:22] it is important to build the also the infrastructure in this
[00:27:26] area because you have to build ports and you have to build all these things to
[00:27:30] you know extract not only the minerals but also to carry them
[00:27:33] to the other parts the
[00:27:56] regarding is to this issue the agreement between the US
[00:28:00] and Greenland is concerned, the rail test would... be amed this
[00:28:03] permanent security con control by the US,
[00:28:07] would the sovereignty of Denmark and the right to self
[00:28:11] determination of Greenland would persist, would
[00:28:15] it continue? that would be the real test
[00:28:58] Before the wistle blows, before the final bell, there is the
[00:29:01] conversation. It's a language understood by every
[00:29:05] stadium on every street corner, it's a moment your
[00:29:08] heartbeats with million others, it's
[00:29:12] a roar of crowd, the silence of
[00:29:15] anticipation, it's a timeful cry of a
[00:29:18] champion, it's more than a game, it's a
[00:29:22] connection,
[00:29:26] pakistan tv speaks to the
[00:29:29] world.
[00:29:35] "there is no longer any blind approval for Israeli
[00:29:39] policy, because the Americans have paid, American soldiers have died,
[00:29:42] hundreds have been injured and hurts, for what, for nothing.
[00:29:46] The
[00:29:47] military."
[00:30:24] Hello and welcome to Pakistan TV with the news of this hour, I'm Zaina Bukhari,
[00:30:28] let's have look at the headlines first.
[00:30:48] security forces kill eight indian sponsored khavar and hangu operation to
[00:30:52] officers and four soldiers and