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[00:00:18] Good morning, assalomu alaikum, you're watching
[00:00:20] a Pakistan TV with the news headlines for this hour,
[00:00:23] I'm for
[00:00:25] Royas.
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[00:00:42] A of Pakistani of resident has been killed and 11 others wounded in a fresh
[00:00:46] hoouti strike on Riyadh's international
[00:00:48] airport.
[00:00:58] of
[00:01:00] of The Saudi Led coalition says it is intercepted the hoouti launched ballistic
[00:01:04] missile targeting Khamis Mushed, while Saudi civil
[00:01:08] defenses declared the threat over in
[00:01:10] of Abha following earlier
[00:01:12] of alert. of
[00:01:17] Oil prices rose on Monday
[00:01:19] of asu of strikes a on Saudi Arabia and attacks on
[00:01:22] of a two tankers raised supply concerns with Brent crewed climbing to
[00:01:25] $105.48 a barrel
[00:01:28] in and US crewed reaching.
[00:01:31] of $92.44.
[00:01:37] Federal government imposes emergency and
[00:01:40] of governor's rule in khaibar following the president's approval
[00:01:47] of of the of recommendations by the federal cabinet.
[00:01:50] of US president Donald Trump has claimed that Russia and Ukraine have
[00:01:54] agreed to an energy seas far with Kiev saying it would
[00:01:57] support such move
[00:01:59] but Moscow is to
[00:02:01] of command.
[00:02:16] in A Pakistani
[00:02:20] resident
[00:02:20] of has been killed and 11 others wounded in a fresh houti militia strike on
[00:02:24] Raad's international airport. It was the second strike on the
[00:02:28] international airport in the saudi. capital in two days a
[00:02:32] Saudi
[00:02:33] of military spokesman said
[00:02:34] of projectile of had hit King Khalid international airport on Sunday causing
[00:02:38] a far in one of its passenger
[00:02:41] a halls. Saudi Arabia civil aviation authority said
[00:02:43] in a statement on X that a
[00:02:46] of Pakistani had been killed in the
[00:02:47] of attack. Authorities have extended the closure
[00:02:50] of the airport by 24 hours.
[00:02:54] a The latest strike came day after attack on the same airport killed 13 people and injured
[00:02:58] 308 oters. following similar strikes earlier this
[00:03:02] week. the huti militia on Sunday claimed multiple attacks
[00:03:06] over the previous 24 hours, including the strike on the airport and
[00:03:10] threatened to continue targeting the kingdom's
[00:03:13] of transit hubs. the militia spokesman brigadier
[00:03:16] general Yahya Saudi
[00:03:18] of said they had also attacked oil
[00:03:20] of facilities and themam airport in eastern Saudi
[00:03:23] Arabia.
[00:03:28] oil prices have extended their as the middle east conflict
[00:03:31] escalates with fears growing over crude supplies from the
[00:03:34] region, the rise on Monday followed stepped
[00:03:38] in up strikes by the Huti militia on Saudi Arabia, while two tankers
[00:03:42] were also attacked over the weekend.
[00:03:45] a Brent crude futures row 76 cents or
[00:03:48] of .73% to $105.48 a
[00:03:51] barrel. Meanwhile, US West Texas intermediate
[00:03:55] crude gained 59 cents or .64% to
[00:03:59] $92. 44 cents a barrel. the
[00:04:03] latest developments have raised
[00:04:04] of fears of further disruptions to oil
[00:04:06] of shipments from the region, putting renewed pressure
[00:04:08] of on global energy
[00:04:11] of markets.
[00:04:15] the federal
[00:04:16] of government of has imposed emergency and governor's rule in khibartunkwa
[00:04:20] following
[00:04:21] of the president's approval
[00:04:22] of the recommendations by the federal cabinet. the president's
[00:04:25] house said
[00:04:26] in a statement that the measures have been
[00:04:28] of approved under articles
[00:04:29] of 23. two and 234
[00:04:31] of the constitution, at the president's office said the
[00:04:34] decision followed the federal cabinet's approval, the prima minister's
[00:04:38] advice reports from relevant institutions on the law and order
[00:04:42] situation and the failure of
[00:04:44] of negotiations with government delegations. Earlier, the
[00:04:47] federal cabinet was briefed on the law and order situation and the provincial
[00:04:51] governments deliberate disengagement from the fight against terrorism
[00:04:55] and the deteriorating state of affairs regarding terrorism in khibar
[00:04:58] paktunkwah. The cabinet conducted detailed
[00:05:02] review
[00:05:02] of the situation, taking into account the worsening law and order
[00:05:06] conditions in
[00:05:08] kwa.
[00:05:18] Those were the top stories for this hour, for more details and live streaming the
[00:05:22] channel, you can visit our website pakistantv.com,
[00:05:26] it's goodbar from the news
[00:05:27] studio.
[00:06:14] Hello and welcome to unfold, I am Javar Tehami, in the first segment of
[00:06:17] today's show we are going to talk about the situation developing in the
[00:06:21] Middle East. In the second segment we are going to talk about the
[00:06:25] controversy in the so-called largest democracy in the world,
[00:06:29] India regarding the revision in the electoral
[00:06:32] roles. There has been crackdown on the part the authorities against the
[00:06:36] demonstrations and the massive protests
[00:06:40] as they have erupted against. "this exercise the election
[00:06:44] commission of India and the Bharatiya Janata Party
[00:06:48] led government in
[00:06:49] the center, we are going to talk about that particular pressing issue India is
[00:06:53] faced with in the second segment of today's show. Let's
[00:06:57] begin with the first one, we know for fact that
[00:07:01] the situation which is unfolding in the Middle East
[00:07:05] has entered into a very dangerous phase when we talk
[00:07:08] about the convergence of multiple crisis, when we talk about the..." the
[00:07:12] crisis that was unfolding between the US and
[00:07:16] Iran, there is a little bit of lull when we talk about the
[00:07:20] active hostilities between the two, but on the other side we have seen there is
[00:07:24] increase in the escalation when we talk
[00:07:27] about Saudi Arabia and the Huti rebels,
[00:07:31] also there are reports that suggest that the fighting
[00:07:34] continues in the Red Sea around Babel Mandab
[00:07:38] between the Houti rebels and the Yemen's government.
[00:07:42] Also when we talk about in the latest the developments, there has been
[00:07:46] a horrific attack on kingdom of Saudi Arabia
[00:07:50] Zuriyad's king Khalid international airport, as
[00:07:53] result of which there have been reports of
[00:07:57] casualities and injuries as well, at least 12 people have been
[00:08:01] killed and over 309 people have
[00:08:05] been injured in that particular series of
[00:08:08] strikes by the Houti Rebels against Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
[00:08:13] "we have seen a strong reaction coming from the kingdom of Saudi
[00:08:16] Arabia calling or describing this action as a
[00:08:20] full fledged war crime and is also promised a
[00:08:24] very decisive response against theuti rebels in the
[00:08:28] wake of this particular act of aggression on the part the hoothies.
[00:08:32] likewise we have seen the condemnation coming from all
[00:08:35] across when we talk about the United Nations secretary general
[00:08:39] Pakistan's prime minister Shabaz Sharif is also..."
[00:08:42] condemned this attack and is also reiterated
[00:08:46] Pakistan's commitment to Saudi Arabia's security,
[00:08:50] especially under the Mackay joint defense
[00:08:53] agreement. Also Malaysia, Germany, the United Arab Emirates and
[00:08:57] number of other countries and also international
[00:09:01] institutions, including the European Union, they have also
[00:09:05] condemned this attack against Kingdom of Saudi
[00:09:08] Arabia's sovereignty, territorial integrity and
[00:09:12] security at the same time there is an interesting factor when we talk about president
[00:09:16] Donald Trump, he was asked whether there could be a
[00:09:20] possibility the military involvement on the part
[00:09:24] the US besides the Saudi forces
[00:09:28] against the hoouties, he responded by saying that
[00:09:31] we may, but that is not an official
[00:09:35] confirmation that perhaps the US would be
[00:09:38] involved in this retaliation the part the kingdom of Saudi Arabia against.
[00:09:42] the hoothies through the military means what are the options
[00:09:46] resting with the kingdom of Saudi Arabia amid this
[00:09:49] escalating situation between itself and the hoot
[00:09:53] is concerned, what is the likelihood the US military
[00:09:57] involvement in this and also when we talk about in the
[00:10:01] larger scheme of things when there are
[00:10:04] uncertainties regarding as to where that conflict between
[00:10:08] the US and Iran will go, although there is a suspension of...
[00:10:12] there was an announcement made by the US president regarding the
[00:10:15] suspension of strikes until after the midterm elections
[00:10:19] against Iran, but does this front actually
[00:10:23] compound that, entire situation in the middle east when
[00:10:27] we talk about kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Huti rebels, where does
[00:10:31] diplomacy stand at the moment when it comes to,
[00:10:34] are there any sort of chances when we talk about deescalating
[00:10:38] the situation between kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Hutis through
[00:10:42] diplomatic means, all these important aspects of discussion, for that we
[00:10:46] are honored to being joined by Mr. Mark Toth, he is the the
[00:10:50] co-founder of Intereb 360, Mark, thank you very
[00:10:54] much
[00:10:54] for being. with us on the show tonight, really appreciate that, also
[00:10:58] we are honored to being joined by Mr. Cornel Jonathan
[00:11:02] ESweet, he is co-founder intereb 360, is
[00:11:05] retired from US Army. Canal Sweet, thank you very
[00:11:09] much for your time also for being with us on the show tonight, really appreciate
[00:11:13] that. First of all, let's begin the discussion with
[00:11:16] you, colnel Sweet, when we specifically try to
[00:11:20] understand this very
[00:11:24] series of strikes on... the part the hootis when it comes to the
[00:11:27] civilian infrastructure within the kingdom of Saudi
[00:11:31] Arabia, it has been described as a full fledged war
[00:11:34] crime on the part the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and it has also promised
[00:11:38] a very decisive response. could you give us an
[00:11:41] understanding, how do you look at that,
[00:11:45] what's your assessment, what is this act on the part of hutis when
[00:11:49] it comes to specifically visave the civilian
[00:11:52] infrastructure? for sure? first of all, thank you for having me on the
[00:11:56] show, it's always a great opportunity to talk about what's going on in the middle east.
[00:12:00] look, let's let let's not kit ourselves. okay, the hoothi rebels are
[00:12:04] proxies the Iranian regime. okay, so they
[00:12:08] are acting, one on behalf of Iran, but
[00:12:11] two, the hoothi rebels have been at war with Saudi Arabia for years,
[00:12:15] right? I mean, I can recall when I was the senior intelligence officer in jibuuti
[00:12:19] uh, Africa in 2015 that the hooties were
[00:12:22] firing drones in. missiles at Saudi Arabia
[00:12:26] but also at the United Arab Emirates, so there's a lot of blad bad blood between the
[00:12:30] two. Okay, and and I suspect,
[00:12:34] strongly, Iran's been funding them, equipping them, training them, there's
[00:12:38] IRGC advisors on the ground, the Houti have also been firing
[00:12:42] ballistic missiles into Israel, so let's let's not let's not think that
[00:12:46] this just occurred, this has been going on for a long
[00:12:49] time, uh, this is intended to, in my opinion, do
[00:12:53] two things, uh, it's it's
[00:12:54] intended to add to the the glut if you of oil coming out
[00:12:58] the uh out the Persian Gulf by shutting
[00:13:01] down sweet if you allow me to interject over
[00:13:05] here I get your point but specifically talking about this
[00:13:09] instance in particular when when we talk about the targeting the
[00:13:13] civilian infrastructure we've seen the casualties happening
[00:13:17] hundreds of injuries have happened this is clear cut
[00:13:20] violation of international law the international norms there are covenants there
[00:13:24] can't conventions internationally that forbid and prohibit
[00:13:28] in categorical terms of any military
[00:13:32] advancement or strike when it comes to the civilian
[00:13:35] infrastructure? no, I agree with that, it it
[00:13:38] it is, it is a war crime
[00:13:39] and look, we've seen nothing but war crimes for the past four and a half years
[00:13:43] and we see the international community largely ignored them,
[00:13:46] okay? so yes a war crimes, civilians were killed,
[00:13:50] civilians were the target, okay, riad is the airport that they
[00:13:54] struck as sivil. airport, it's not a military airport, it's a civilian airport, it was
[00:13:57] delivered and it got what they wanted, which was
[00:14:00] attention to their cause attention to Iran's
[00:14:04] cause, and they believe that by escalating and getting that type
[00:14:08] of attention that the other nations in the region, the other gulf state
[00:14:12] nations in Jordan and Israel, will somehow back
[00:14:15] off of off either Iran or back off off
[00:14:19] the hoothi, but all that's really done is just in my
[00:14:23] opinion is just yeah. it further escalates the situation and it's
[00:14:27] going to possibly cause an expansion the war. okay, when i say expansion
[00:14:31] the war, mean saudi Arabia retaliating, but retaliatory
[00:14:35] strikes don't win wars, they just make you feel better at the end the day, but it could
[00:14:39] involve Pakistan, it could also involve Turkey uh, and as you
[00:14:43] stated in your opening uh piece, both them are signatories to the
[00:14:47] Mecca agreement, but it's also understand that they signed that document almost three
[00:14:51] months ago uh, so it's very um, we're
[00:14:54] a time. right now uh that that one or two
[00:14:58] actions on the battlefield can cause strategic consequences
[00:15:01] and and we're starting to see that right now on the ground
[00:15:05] there
[00:15:06] in in the middle east right colnel sweet if you allow me please stay with
[00:15:09] us i'll proceed towards Mark what's
[00:15:13] your understanding when we specifically talk about the options
[00:15:17] resting right now after this horrific attack against civilian
[00:15:21] infrastructure in the kingdom what options resting? the
[00:15:25] kingdom of Saudi Arabia when it has promised a
[00:15:28] decisive response in return to towards the
[00:15:31] hoothies, right? now greetings to you and your
[00:15:35] viewers, look, I agree with what? my colleague John Swed is
[00:15:39] saying uh, I think the uh Hothies are messaging here trying
[00:15:43] to bring attention to their cause by attacking the King
[00:15:46] Khalid airport, which is a civilian airport, clearly
[00:15:50] uh they're not only just committing a war crime uh but they're trying to send lout
[00:15:54] exclamation mark that they don't mind uh because they view that
[00:15:57] as is uh key to getting their global message out
[00:16:01] there, that set, I think there's also two other messages that are happening
[00:16:05] that will impact the nature of Saudi. garibia's response uh, this kind
[00:16:09] of attack, this type of horrific attack where 12 people were killed, didn't
[00:16:13] happen a vacuum, i highly suspect that the
[00:16:17] approaching us midterms also motivated the hoothies to
[00:16:20] act by attacking a US all in the region by
[00:16:24] attacking the sunni state at that um and that they are
[00:16:27] attempting to influence oil prices and in
[00:16:31] probably Iran is behind this, not probably, we know that Iran is behind this, the
[00:16:34] IGC has been less effective of late in terms. of interdicting
[00:16:38] uh oil supplies going through the straight of chamoz, and so they need the hoothies to
[00:16:42] be escalating in the babomed straight in the red sea in general, and
[00:16:46] I think that's why we've seen this action of late with the Housies taking the red sea
[00:16:50] coastal areas and now forcing Saudi Arabia to come
[00:16:53] back, so Saudi Arabia has a big decision ahead them,
[00:16:57] they need to ask themselves, are we going to continue to manage this conflict
[00:17:01] as we have for you, two decades, this goes back to
[00:17:05] 2015 uh where they just want to... managed to a stailmate because that's
[00:17:09] certainly been their approach, it's certainly been the yemini government approach
[00:17:12] uh, however a stailmate has got them vulnerable where they're at now, because
[00:17:16] Iran over that same time period is been supplying
[00:17:19] um via the IRGC uh the huties with ballistic missiles and drones and
[00:17:23] they're coming under attack so so far Saudi Arabia in terms the
[00:17:27] firm response that their defense spokesman uh made this
[00:17:31] morning or yesterday depending on what time zone you're in um yeah if it's just
[00:17:35] going to be more air strikes if it's only going to be long to ground type
[00:17:38] support
[00:17:40] uh for operations to retake territory control by the hooties, I don't think
[00:17:43] much changes uh, and you know Pakistan itself as part of this
[00:17:47] Mecca agreement is also going to have to be deciding whether or not they're going
[00:17:51] to hear their own 2015 uh decision not to involve
[00:17:55] themselves in offensive operations uh in Yemen but simply
[00:17:59] to resort to or I mean to uh refrain themselves from
[00:18:03] that but just to basically be there to defend holy sights and
[00:18:07] and uh civilian sites within the kingdom of Saudi Arabia
[00:18:10] itself uh so Saudi Arabia has a big choice here, it's not clear which way
[00:18:14] they're going to do uh, but I do think they need to be doing more air streaks, I think
[00:18:18] they need to be considering the introduction of of ground forces if
[00:18:22] only a limited basis and and and quickly here I think they also need to be
[00:18:26] talking to the necca partners how they can bring this about because if
[00:18:30] not this is just going to be rince and repeat and Saudi Arabia in the region will keep
[00:18:34] facing this crisis uh the Houties are not going away and unless they're
[00:18:37] defeated. Mark, I'll come back to
[00:18:41] you. coming back to you colnel Sweet, when we try to understand the
[00:18:45] US position with Hoodies. now, there was an
[00:18:49] earlier stance, we know for fact a few weeks back,
[00:18:53] there was a statement made by president himself
[00:18:56] that perhaps there was some sort of an engagement when it
[00:19:00] comes to the US and Houtis and Houties didn't want the
[00:19:04] US to come after them. now... looking at
[00:19:08] this spec specific attack,
[00:19:11] president Trump was himself asked whether they could be a
[00:19:15] US military involvement and he said we may, it's not
[00:19:19] an official confirmation as we do have clarity on
[00:19:23] that, but what could be the likelihood the US involvement at
[00:19:27] this stage going against the hoothies? do
[00:19:30] you think the US just before the midterm elections could afford to be involved
[00:19:34] militarily on another front? just when it is involved
[00:19:38] directly with Iran on the other side? sure,
[00:19:42] look, great question. look, I'm going to take you back to March of 2025, from March to
[00:19:46] May 2025, the United States was involved an operation called Ruff
[00:19:49] Rider, in which they bombed right, hoothy targets for the better part of
[00:19:53] 45 days and if you recall when the cease fire was
[00:19:57] announced, the uh the agreement for the most part was the Houti
[00:20:01] said we won't we won't attack US ships if you stop bombing us right,
[00:20:05] and that was it, and that supposedly was the end the... operation, an operation
[00:20:09] by the way, which the Saudi Arabia government sat back and watched and did not
[00:20:12] participate, uh, they're probably thinking they probably should have done
[00:20:16] that earlier. look, the president says he may consider
[00:20:20] striking targets in yemen, um, i would say if he goes after
[00:20:23] targets in yemen that those targets are going to be IRGC
[00:20:27] targets, irgc forces that are supporting hoothi rebels at ballistic
[00:20:31] missile sites at ports where missiles are arriving
[00:20:35] at training facilities, so the... may be some additional strikes that occur, i
[00:20:39] don't necessarily think he's going to be chasing hoothi, i think he's going to be chasing the
[00:20:43] source, and the source in this case in my opinion is
[00:20:46] Iran, uh, right uh...
[00:20:50] Okay, colnel Sweet, when we try to understand the overall scheme of things,
[00:20:54] when we talk about what were the objectives which was said by
[00:20:57] Trump administration, when we talk about its invasion
[00:21:01] against Iran, so far more
[00:21:04] than more than eight months into that particular
[00:21:08] conflict, there is announcement that perhaps the
[00:21:11] newer strikes might come after the midterm
[00:21:15] elections, now we've also seen the
[00:21:19] approval. for President Trump going down before the midterm
[00:21:23] elections, now if if in case there happens
[00:21:27] to be a military involvement on part the US
[00:21:31] to support Saudi Arabia against the hoothies, what
[00:21:35] sort of an impact this military involvement do you think it could
[00:21:39] have generally on the public opinion just before the
[00:21:42] elections? yeah, look, I see it two ways,
[00:21:46] okay, and I'll go back to what Marcus said,
[00:21:50] retiratory strikes, if it's just hitting buildings and uh
[00:21:53] and and showing battle damage assessment videos to the American public and how successful
[00:21:57] we were, it blowing things up, then I don't think the impact is anything, be quite
[00:22:01] honest with because it doesn't achieve anything, if the impact is fall
[00:22:05] of regime, if the impact is the opening the straight because there's
[00:22:09] nobody firing into either the bob uh bob
[00:22:13] almandab or into the straight of hormos and safe passages
[00:22:16] occurring and we're seeing a sense peace breakout.
[00:22:20] to the middle east, I think it has a positive impact, but right now the targets,
[00:22:24] at least, as axios reported, the possible targets that the
[00:22:28] president had mentioned earlier were Iranian energy, Iranian
[00:22:31] infrastructure and nuclear targets, none them included the
[00:22:35] IRGC by name, and none them include the possibility of taking the
[00:22:39] regime down, so retaliatory strides and massive assaults
[00:22:42] up to now, as you just said, eight months into a conflict, having
[00:22:46] achieved the desired result, in this case the desired result. will
[00:22:50] be uh the fall the regime, what it has done is limit their
[00:22:53] abilities to respond conventionally, but they still
[00:22:57] have, as far as we understand, they still have some enriched uranium, and they still
[00:23:01] have asymmetric capability that threatens the entire
[00:23:04] region, and addition, it's been threatening Great Britain and other
[00:23:08] allies throughout Europe, because their ability to leverage proxies and
[00:23:12] sleeper cells, so Iran continues to be a problem, and unless he
[00:23:16] addresses the problem, which is the regime, that
[00:23:19] I don't think he's as much headway in united states right,
[00:23:23] mr. colnel jonathan e sweet co-founder at internet
[00:23:26] 360 retire from US army, thank you very much for taking time out for
[00:23:30] on full tonight, really appreciate. coming back to you, mark, what's your
[00:23:34] assessment, what is the likelihood the us getting
[00:23:37] militarily involved in support of Saudi Arabia again is given the
[00:23:41] fact there was an earlier statement or a stance on the part of president
[00:23:45] himself when he said publicly the truties have
[00:23:49] asked him not to go behind them after them,
[00:23:52] sorry, right? now i really doubt that
[00:23:56] president Trump is going to be willing to initiate any wide scale
[00:23:59] attacks at this point in support of Saudi Arabia ahead the
[00:24:03] midterms, simply because he's trying to manage oil prices and by
[00:24:07] extension gas prices to the average American consumer
[00:24:11] and ultimately voter. now after the mid-terms of November
[00:24:14] 3rd, he certainly all options are open. i would
[00:24:18] say it's notable that he came. out and uh
[00:24:21] stated um uh that uh he's considering strikes, so I think you can
[00:24:25] interpret that as messaging from President Trump uh to the hoothies that
[00:24:29] look, you may be uh
[00:24:31] you know uh creating a problem right now, but I'm going to be willing to solve it
[00:24:35] most likely later after the mid-terms and he'll certainly be free to do
[00:24:39] that uh and I think it's going to be needed because I think if you just step back and you look at the
[00:24:43] battlefield uh in the maps initially it was uh you know
[00:24:47] in the last 10 days or so Saudi Arabia the coalition. led by
[00:24:50] Saudi Arabian umini forces that were taking the initiative uh they were
[00:24:54] able to start sweeping toward the coastal plane to try to retake that
[00:24:58] territory, but in the last several days it's actually been the hoothis who regained
[00:25:02] the initiative in and around to the tas uh
[00:25:05] the the kind the political
[00:25:09] gold star that they want to win for themselves uh but they've been repuft
[00:25:13] so far um you know but also the the the Yumini back
[00:25:17] forces struggled in the marine i'm sorry the marib
[00:25:20] governant, which is a mountain this region to try to be a supporting operation to
[00:25:24] the coastal military operations, but that hasn't gone well either for the
[00:25:28] coalition, so definitely Saudis are going to need
[00:25:31] help, they're going to need it from the United States and they're going to need it from the Mecca
[00:25:35] agreement, because right now to me it's a
[00:25:38] stalemate. okay
[00:25:41] now um Mark, here's the interesting
[00:25:44] dimension now, there are multiple fronts for as
[00:25:48] hutis which... or they are involved on multiple fronts,
[00:25:52] when we talk about against the kingdom of Saudi Arabia itself, then
[00:25:56] in the Red Sea, the reports coming, there is an intensification, the
[00:25:59] fighting against the Yemini government itself, first... First of all, I want you
[00:26:03] understanding where where do the hoothies get this
[00:26:06] capacity from, and
[00:26:10] what's actually the basis of that? Also,
[00:26:14] while lot of countries, international organizations such as the UN and
[00:26:18] EU have condemned this airport attack,
[00:26:21] now European Commission president has also
[00:26:25] condemned it, but at the same time she has
[00:26:28] characterized the Hutis as Iran's proxies now.
[00:26:32] "there is another dimension when when we try to analyze this one, just
[00:26:36] few days back there was a possibility, there was an expression of
[00:26:40] interest on the part the Iranian foreign ministry spokesman
[00:26:44] that Iran's good offices could help mediate,
[00:26:47] resolve the crisis between kingdom of Saudi
[00:26:50] Arabia and the hoothies. looking at
[00:26:54] all these aspects, what's your conclusion,
[00:26:57] do we understand there is a direct backing for the capacity the Hothies when it
[00:27:01] comes to Iran?" " or if it is not there, could Iran play
[00:27:05] a mediating role at this point? no, that's a
[00:27:09] great question, and I think it really goes to the heart the problem that
[00:27:13] Iran has created for itself and for the rest the mide east. Iran
[00:27:16] clearly is behind this, the huties didn't find arms out of nowhere. uh, they're
[00:27:20] using Russian equipment, they have Iranian ballistic missiles and drones
[00:27:24] and the IRGC, have feed on the ground, boots on the
[00:27:27] ground inside controlled territory in
[00:27:31] Yemen. "and so clearly they are the sponsors
[00:27:34] of it, so it's a little bit too faced in my opinion for the Iranians to be coming
[00:27:38] out and saying they can broker a peace because they're actually behind this war
[00:27:41] in my opinion
[00:27:43] and so from that st i think it's it's tricky and don't just take my
[00:27:46] word for it, i think
[00:27:47] you know if you look to king abdullah the second of jordan back in
[00:27:51] 2004 uh
[00:27:52] you now we're talking 22 years ago now uh he warned the arab
[00:27:56] world that this uh access of resistance that was aimed at Israel
[00:28:00] think of that what you might uh" was also in effect the shia
[00:28:04] crecent that Iran was aiming at the sunni world
[00:28:07] uh and and it's come to firation, we've seen that just on the attacks that Iran has been willing
[00:28:11] to do during the Gulf war in Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Saudi
[00:28:15] Arabia and the like and the United Arab Emirates, and and now we've certainly seen it
[00:28:19] in terms of indirectly through the hoothies by them
[00:28:22] attacking Saudi Arabia, so I don't think
[00:28:26] Iran is that mediator uh simply because they're behind this, it's it's to
[00:28:30] their benefit right now to... second front and the
[00:28:34] hoothies are willing to do that. now i would just quickly add here the the hoothies
[00:28:38] act in many different ways, clearly the chief backer is around, but
[00:28:42] obviously they have their own interests, so this is just one angle, they
[00:28:46] have a long-term war against Saudi Arabia, but they're also willing to be allies
[00:28:50] to help Iran out, because in their minds it helps
[00:28:52] them out. okay, Mark, I'll come back to you, we're honored to being joined by
[00:28:56] another participant, miss Lee, and gented
[00:29:00] at arabia english, leave, thank you. much for being with us, once again
[00:29:03] taking time out for unfold, we really appreciate you being with us
[00:29:07] once again, a very critical moment when
[00:29:11] there are direct strikes against the civilian infrastructure by the
[00:29:15] hoothies inside kingdom of Saudi Arabia, could you
[00:29:19] give us an understanding what's the situation right now? there are reports
[00:29:23] the civil civil aviation
[00:29:26] disruption there as well visa with this airport as well,
[00:29:30] hundreds of flies either been canceled. or diverted,
[00:29:34] what's the situation on the ground as we
[00:29:36] speak? good evening to you, so the
[00:29:40] situation on the ground is that we have had official
[00:29:43] confirmation today from the civil aviation
[00:29:47] authority that injuries have been reported once
[00:29:51] again at the international airport here in Riad,
[00:29:55] King Khalid airport, there was a
[00:29:58] missile strike on the airport terminal four, this was...
[00:30:02] intercepted, however it did cause fire, so we are
[00:30:06] getting reports of injuries once again at the
[00:30:10] airport,
[00:30:10] and of course this comes after yesterday's strike on
[00:30:14] the airport inside of Riyad, which killed um 12
[00:30:18] people, but also injured more than
[00:30:21] 309 people, and we're just getting reports
[00:30:24] out now, the Indian embassy has come forward and said
[00:30:28] one of its citizens who was in that deadly...
[00:30:32] blast yesterday has now succumbed to injuries and lost his
[00:30:36] life, so that puts the death toll of yesterday's attack
[00:30:40] up to 13, and it's been a really tragic
[00:30:44] day in Saudi yesterday, we lost a four
[00:30:47] Saudi citizens were killed, a US citizen was killed
[00:30:51] along with many other nationalities in that
[00:30:55] blast that happened, but today as the aviation authority is
[00:30:59] saying, they...