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[00:00:00] online conflict
[00:00:01] has been declared of an active war, active
[00:00:04] war, so we know
[00:00:08] this, what we don't
[00:00:10] of know is whether there's a way to
[00:00:14] solve the
[00:00:15] of problems,
[00:00:17] of and I again, do you want a kinetic
[00:00:23] of of solution, that is missiles, firing across lines, or do you want
[00:00:26] a diplomatic solution, and that's up to both.
[00:00:30] governments India
[00:00:32] and and Pakistan to lay aside and
[00:00:35] persistent historical enmities and suspicions
[00:00:39] if possible and certainly
[00:00:42] of I'm I'm not privy to any
[00:00:46] diplomatic overtures, I went on one track to
[00:00:49] assignment to um New
[00:00:52] Delhi um and both sides
[00:00:57] of at the lunch table that I was at. indian
[00:01:00] general um was was optimistic,
[00:01:04] but that
[00:01:06] of of never happened, um, obviously never happened,
[00:01:10] of so if there's a way to solve these
[00:01:14] issues without
[00:01:15] of more people being killed, that would be
[00:01:18] wonderful. um, how would you,
[00:01:21] i understand, yeah, but
[00:01:25] would you in, if you if you look back at history and in terms of you,
[00:01:28] of how things are when we look at the
[00:01:30] of landscape overall with Modi's India at this time, how would
[00:01:34] you rate
[00:01:35] of diplomatic success between Pakistan in India
[00:01:38] on such such a for example trading of evidence on such
[00:01:42] a you know sort of sitting across the table in terms of some
[00:01:46] kind of serious solution, how
[00:01:48] of would you rate it? because we've also
[00:01:50] of seen of what happened in the the war
[00:01:53] recently
[00:01:55] of between Pakistan and India in which of course we saw the role
[00:01:58] of the US president also, so so there is you know a certain
[00:02:02] background to what happened, so so what are your thoughts at this time of
[00:02:06] that kind of
[00:02:06] a diplomatic success of of that kind of
[00:02:10] of a diplomatic effort?
[00:02:15] one% uh at
[00:02:19] first, but then you bring
[00:02:22] of in the the um global powers, including the global south,
[00:02:26] including the western powers
[00:02:28] of and you start to make progress. um and the
[00:02:31] Vietnam settlement uh, years were
[00:02:35] spent debating the size
[00:02:38] of the table that diplomats would set sit at
[00:02:41] and how many people would be at that
[00:02:43] of table, so it's a slow
[00:02:47] painstaking process that requires
[00:02:50] patience uh, which
[00:02:52] you know maybe in two years we'll say it's a 30%
[00:02:56] chance, maybe in five years we'll say it's
[00:02:58] a 50% chance. "I'm not number one
[00:03:02] mathematician, but I
[00:03:03] of do know these things take time uh,
[00:03:07] and I would, I think the world would
[00:03:10] celebrate if India and Pakistan came
[00:03:14] to some sort of
[00:03:30] With us
[00:03:31] of joining Tarushi Aswani who is an
[00:03:35] independent journalist based in New Delhi,
[00:03:37] of India of joining us. Tarushi, you've been
[00:03:41] reporting from the ground since yesterday, what have you witnessed, how
[00:03:45] would you describe the atmosphere in Delhi at this time, as of
[00:03:49] course these protests continue, what are you
[00:03:51] witnessing? as somebody who's
[00:03:55] been on the ground for the last two days, I
[00:03:58] of have seen that I "a lot of protesters are being brutally
[00:04:02] detained, but that is not stopping their courage from protesting
[00:04:06] against the government, and apart from this, you also have to
[00:04:10] know that we are currently
[00:04:13] of facing
[00:04:13] of a crackdown of sorts in the heart of Delhi, so this place that we read about
[00:04:17] the jantar mantar enclave and
[00:04:20] of how it's situated in kanot place, which is like the heartbeat of
[00:04:24] Delhi, which has our Supreme Court of India, which also
[00:04:28] has the
[00:04:29] of president's house, the pr'. minister's house, the parliament of
[00:04:32] India,
[00:04:41] we also have with us Tania Bazai who's in human
[00:04:45] rights lawyer joining us. Tanya, in terms
[00:04:48] of the Delhi crackdown, is it is, is is in your
[00:04:52] opinion, quite frankly is peaceful descent being
[00:04:56] criminalized, of course thousands of people are reportedly being
[00:05:00] detained in Delhi, of course, as these reporters
[00:05:04] are wanting to demonstrate against the chief election
[00:05:07] commissioner and of course electoral revision, the CGP
[00:05:11] leaders, CGP leaders so detained upon arriving
[00:05:14] in the capital, is it is the response in your
[00:05:18] opinion proportionate and what is it reveal about the Modi
[00:05:22] government and of course their tolerance of peaceful
[00:05:25] protesting? see the
[00:05:29] if we go through the laws and constitution the
[00:05:33] India, they have given right to assemble and this give them
[00:05:37] protection to protest peacefully when it comes to article 19 subsection
[00:05:40] one and article 19 subsection section two, they have given them all the
[00:05:44] right to protest peacefully, and on
[00:05:47] the other hand, the Supreme Court has also emphasized that the protester
[00:05:51] doing protest are is the fundamental right of all the citizens
[00:05:55] and the unreasonable restrictions can lead to constitutional
[00:05:59] crisis, so if it come to the mass
[00:06:02] disfranchisement, they can also invoke the sections
[00:06:06] of section 21, 22, 23, 24
[00:06:09] the representation of people's act 19. 50, so
[00:06:13] they have all the sections, all the provisions, even the
[00:06:16] constitution the India has given them all the rights
[00:06:20] to do the peaceful protest, even the supreme court has the
[00:06:24] rulings that they can protest peacefully unless and until they don't breach
[00:06:28] the law, so I think that there is no criminality in
[00:06:32] all this process, if we go through the provisions of
[00:06:36] India and the constitution, they have given them all the right under article
[00:06:39] 191 and 192 the constitution of India Yeah, how
[00:06:43] would you look at the practical sort of
[00:06:47] practicality these rights in terms of how are they practically being
[00:06:50] imposed, are they being imposed the way that the
[00:06:53] constitution sort of
[00:06:55] foresees? I think
[00:06:58] practically they they should be, I
[00:07:02] think more peaceful and has there are a lot of sanction already
[00:07:06] imposed on them, lot them are detained already, even
[00:07:09] the the the
[00:07:11] the the head of... 'the cockro janata party has been detained and even
[00:07:15] detention itself is a crime in law, you cannot detain
[00:07:19] someone for more than 24 hours and you have to produce them before the
[00:07:22] magistrate as soon as possible, so practically i think they are very
[00:07:26] influential, if you see the opposition leaders are also in their
[00:07:29] favor and the opposition leaders, according to article
[00:07:33] 84 and 102 the constitution allow them to join them
[00:07:37] and promote their
[00:07:47] what are the processors demanding? Why has the revision of
[00:07:51] electoral roles become such major flash point
[00:07:55] when we look at the demonstrators calling for chief election
[00:07:57] commissioner Kumar to resign. Is it is it what is
[00:08:01] behind this this kind of protest that we are
[00:08:05] looking at?
[00:08:08] Essentially we have to look a lot of factors here because there was a st.
[00:08:12] done by an Indian newspaper on September 24, after
[00:08:16] which there was a wide spread protest across India demanding that
[00:08:20] 13 crore votes which have been deleted be taken back
[00:08:24] and the election commission must take accountability for it,
[00:08:27] however
[00:08:28] what is coming to notice of protesters, citizens and opposition
[00:08:32] leaders is that there is no acknowledgement on the part of Gnyanesh
[00:08:36] Kumar who is the chief election commissioner of India and neither has there
[00:08:39] been any accountability on part of the BJP on
[00:08:43] part the Modi government that there is deletion of 13
[00:08:47] crore voters across India. What they are saying is is that
[00:08:50] procedures going on and these dissions happened.
[00:08:54] However, we must also understand that there is an
[00:08:58] overwhelming sentiment that these voters were deleted in fact, there
[00:09:02] is an allegation that these voters were deleted in fact to make Mr.
[00:09:06] Modi win in these states where the elections happened with
[00:09:09] deleted voters, for example Bihar where. the BJP has
[00:09:13] won in coalition and also in West Bengal where the BJP
[00:09:17] has won, so there are a lot of questions that the protesters are
[00:09:20] asking about how this is happening and India
[00:09:24] is one the largest democracies in the world, we
[00:09:28] have around 970 million registered
[00:09:31] voters, out these such a big deletion
[00:09:35] is
[00:09:38] tarushi, when you like you said India is one the largest
[00:09:42] democracy. in the world, but as you know we just spoke to Tanya
[00:09:45] Bazai also, and there are some constitutional freedoms that are
[00:09:49] granted to the citizens of India, in terms of
[00:09:53] detention, are they being followed, are they being
[00:09:56] you know in terms of are they being abused, are they being followed? when we look at the
[00:10:00] rules regarding detention, the time periods, as far
[00:10:04] as
[00:10:04] you know the leaders are concerned, the opposition parties are, those that are protesting from
[00:10:08] the opposition parties also, so so on the ground what is
[00:10:12] situation with regard to those constitutional
[00:10:15] freedoms,
[00:10:21] so on the ground the sentiment is like about detention.
[00:10:25] I will give you very official figure which is 7000 protesters
[00:10:29] were detained yesterday, this includes former chief ministers, this
[00:10:33] includes lot of members the opposition party and also
[00:10:36] includes youth organizations, however many
[00:10:40] them were released, almost all them in fact were released late
[00:10:43] night yesterday and even early morning today Sunday on
[00:10:47] October 11, so regarding rules and regulations, the
[00:10:51] Indian Constitution has stipulated sections which talk about the
[00:10:55] freedom to protest, the freedom of expression and the freedom for peaceful
[00:10:59] assembly and expressing one in terms of writing in
[00:11:02] posters, using photographs, however these rights
[00:11:06] in section 19 the Indian constitution are
[00:11:09] being massively overlooked when it comes to these
[00:11:12] protests which actually point massive
[00:11:15] fingers at the modi government, and
[00:11:19] what is also come to notice is that while the Supreme Court
[00:11:23] of India has intervened, while they also said that internet must not
[00:11:27] be shut down in the Indian capital, while the Supreme Court also
[00:11:31] said that you must not use excessive sports while battling
[00:11:34] protesters, all of this was ignored by the Ministry of Home
[00:11:38] Affairs under Mr. Amit Shah, all these orders were
[00:11:41] ignored. I was reporting from the ground yesterday from
[00:11:45] 8 am till 8 pm in the night, we did not have internet the
[00:11:49] whole day and wherever we had internet it was very
[00:11:52] patchy, so the whole age area the
[00:11:56] capital, as I explain to you, the cannot place area where this is happening, it
[00:12:00] is the heartbeat of Delhi, you have the parliament of India there, you have the prime
[00:12:03] minister house, you have the president house, you have the
[00:12:07] Supreme Court of India situated there, imagine having no internet there for
[00:12:11] 24 hours, how would people move around, and this would
[00:12:15] especially being done to
[00:12:16] you know nullify or zero five protesters, however
[00:12:20] protesters still gathered in massive numbers and in front of my eyes
[00:12:24] protesters were thrashed, they were beaten, they were dragged, their clothes were
[00:12:27] tone and the police was stuffing them into detention vans like one
[00:12:31] stuff cattle into vans, this is what was happening today as well as
[00:12:35] yesterday. right,
[00:12:41] it doesn't seem like those constitutional freedoms, those constitutional rights when
[00:12:45] you talk about detention are being upheld, when we look at
[00:12:48] what Tarushi is telling us about what's happening on the ground, but
[00:12:52] in terms the election commission's independ and accountability,
[00:12:56] these demon demonstrations demanding
[00:13:00] that the CEC of C
[00:13:04] Kumar's resignation, when we look at the opposition parties questioning the
[00:13:07] transparency the electoral role division, how do you look at
[00:13:11] this, because when an institution of course is responsible for ensuring free and fair
[00:13:15] elections, is and it's facing these kind of
[00:13:19] allegations of political bias, what legal
[00:13:22] mechanisms exist to... hold it
[00:13:25] accountable, does the current
[00:13:28] controversy weaken India's constitutional
[00:13:32] freedoms, institutional safeguards? what reforms in your
[00:13:35] opinion would help restore the public
[00:13:39] confidence at this time? if I talk
[00:13:42] according to legal perspective, they have very good legal
[00:13:46] framework that comes under article 32 and 226 the
[00:13:50] constitution that they can hold the commission accountable for transparency and
[00:13:54] fostering. the public engagement and on the other side, if you
[00:13:58] see the the this this entire battle is the
[00:14:01] transparency and fostering the public opinion and public
[00:14:04] engagement, so they have that article 32 and
[00:14:08] article 226, they can invoke any time, the protesters and
[00:14:12] voters, they can go before the high court, they can go for the the
[00:14:16] courts can go for the su moto cognisence, so
[00:14:19] they have all the legal you can say framework in front
[00:14:23] them and they can adopt them, they can invoke them. on the
[00:14:27] other hand, as you know that the India is also
[00:14:31] signatory to the ICCPR, article 21
[00:14:35] and 25, but after the invention intervention
[00:14:38] the United Nation or you can say the international
[00:14:42] convenient, even India, India
[00:14:46] just you can say said that we don't want any internal
[00:14:50] interference in our country, whereas it is already signatory to
[00:14:53] all the these, laws and they have to abide
[00:14:56] by, let me interject here, when we look at, you
[00:15:00] know, on the
[00:15:01] one hand, constitutional rights versus state
[00:15:05] restrictions, how would you look at the situation at
[00:15:09] this time? on the one hand, of course, like you are saying, there are all these
[00:15:12] statutes in place, there are all these constitutional
[00:15:16] provisions that and constitutional safegards,
[00:15:20] also legal safegards that you are talking about, but when we look at
[00:15:23] practically the situation. on ground, how do you
[00:15:27] look at things? let's talk about the practicality
[00:15:31] versus whatever checks are
[00:15:34] procedurally in place, because we are looking a state
[00:15:37] placing restrictions, we are looking a state that seems
[00:15:41] according to what Tarushi is saying
[00:15:45] that is ignoring what are frankly constitutional
[00:15:49] safegards. i think Modi government must
[00:15:53] engage constructively rather than dismissively. when it comes to
[00:15:56] reasonable restrictions, yes it is mentioned in article 19 subsection two
[00:16:00] the constitution, there are some reason restrictions when it comes
[00:16:04] freedom of speech, when it comes to right to assemble. but on the
[00:16:08] other hand, supreme court is very clear and the supreme court ruling is very
[00:16:11] clear that there are some reasonable restrictions, but that
[00:16:15] restrictions can become dis proportionate when
[00:16:19] they suppress lawful descent. if they are like protesting
[00:16:22] legally and peacefully then these provisions and
[00:16:26] these restrictions do not apply and they cannot impose these
[00:16:30] restrictions because they are suppressing lawful
[00:16:32] descents. fair enough, let me come back
[00:16:36] to you. see, when we look at the government's response, the
[00:16:40] Modi government, the authorities justified their handling the
[00:16:44] protests, they've you in terms of
[00:16:48] what they've said at this time, in terms of officials directly addressing
[00:16:51] protesters concerns, have they really
[00:16:55] addressed these concerns, have the response focused
[00:16:58] primarily on maintaining public order or or does the
[00:17:02] state look like it's in a mood to listen to what is
[00:17:06] being said on on such huge scale at this
[00:17:09] time the state is not ready to
[00:17:13] listen at all, even as i am speaking to you at the moment, there are
[00:17:17] protesters, men, women, children, elderly, they are all
[00:17:21] in connot place right now as we speaking, some them are
[00:17:25] climbing buses, some them are
[00:17:26] you know walking on the road, some them are demanding that the others be released to have been
[00:17:30] detained at three pm today, but what it seems like
[00:17:34] is that the Modi government is using the create
[00:17:37] machinery to very conveniently protect the chief election
[00:17:41] commissioner Mr. Kumar and it appears as though they are not in mood
[00:17:45] to comment or cater to any the demands the protesters have
[00:17:49] laid forward, while the protesters have always maintained,
[00:17:53] even back in July when we had mass protest here led by the Cookroad Janata
[00:17:56] party, protesters maintained that please
[00:18:00] understand that these protests are going to be peaceful, we are the
[00:18:04] believers of Gandhi and we want to have peaceful protests here.
[00:18:07] however, in my opinion, the government is ready to
[00:18:11] make the experience of protesting in India very humiliating
[00:18:15] activity, they want to humiliate protesters, journalists who are
[00:18:19] covering this to the extent that we do not feel
[00:18:22] like covering the protests ever again, because the way the police
[00:18:26] has been dealing with protesters is inhuman
[00:18:30] by the max, they have been detaining protesters, journalists and
[00:18:34] they are not releasing them even when people are showing them press cards,
[00:18:38] so that says a lot about where the orders are coming from, what the state
[00:18:42] orders are, and even currently when I am moving in Delhi at
[00:18:46] the moment, there is section called 163 in place
[00:18:50] which forbids the assembly of more than four people, so we
[00:18:54] are basically a state of undeclared emergency
[00:18:58] and rights of people are being trampled just because they are daring to question the
[00:19:01] Modi government, what happens next
[00:19:05] in your opinion, are the... testers preparing to continue
[00:19:09] these demonstrations, what is the government's response like you
[00:19:12] said, in terms of are they going to be continuing to
[00:19:16] confront, like you said they're even confronting and making things
[00:19:20] difficult for those that that want to cover these protests, you of course
[00:19:24] journalists like yourself, journalists who really have only one interest
[00:19:28] to tell what tell everyone
[00:19:29] you know what's exactly happening, tell it like it is, in your
[00:19:33] opinion is civil liberties, democratic accountability
[00:19:37] under Modi's leadership, how how is it
[00:19:40] taking, of course it's taking a blow, but what happens
[00:19:44] next in your
[00:19:45] opinion? so
[00:19:49] today also a protest was foiled, protesters were not allowed to move beyond the
[00:19:53] point in the central location where the protest was planned,
[00:19:56] however protesters are not backing down, they have one goal which
[00:20:00] is the resignation of Gnyanesh Kumar, and the
[00:20:04] other thing is that we also have a protest to... tomorrow in the
[00:20:08] morning led by Rahul Gandhi who is marching
[00:20:11] in the same area, is going to be marching tomorrow, so we are waiting to see what
[00:20:15] happens next, because frankly at this moment it is very
[00:20:19] difficult and unpredictable to tell what
[00:20:21] the next step is going
[00:20:23] to be, however one thing remains certain is that the protesters are not
[00:20:27] backing down, whether it's the corporate Janata party, whether it's normal
[00:20:31] citizens, whether it's people who are engaged in politics,
[00:20:34] youth activists or opposition leaders. chief ministers, former
[00:20:38] people who have been associated with the government, lot of IAS, Indian
[00:20:42] administrative service officers have also written to the Supreme Court of India
[00:20:46] asking for clarity about whatever has happened with the...
[00:20:50] role, so what we are seeing is basically
[00:20:54] pointing of fingers, opposing of questions
[00:20:57] and all this is unanimously
[00:21:00] questioning what the Modi government has been doing and planning to do in
[00:21:04] the last 12 years, why has it become so
[00:21:08] important for you know for for
[00:21:12] not to sort of lay off as far as this CAC,
[00:21:16] the chief election commissioner is concerned, why is it become such huge?
[00:21:20] deal for the current government in your
[00:21:22] opinion?
[00:21:27] i think what one must observe, i
[00:21:30] think people who watch India globally must understand that there is
[00:21:34] pattern that the government follows, so the pattern is to never accept
[00:21:38] its mistakes, so while we saw the resignation of
[00:21:42] education minister of india Dharmendra Pradhan's designation we saw in July
[00:21:45] itself when the protesters were all over Delhi again asking for his
[00:21:50] resignation because lot of exam government exam medical
[00:21:54] papers had been lead and that had led to the suicide of 25
[00:21:57] students who were under pressure of giving the reexams
[00:22:01] government's because failure to contain the confidentiality of exam
[00:22:04] papers, this man who is the CEC cannot be
[00:22:08] sacrificed this time, dharmendra Pradhan could have been
[00:22:11] sacrificed because it was about education, but what we are
[00:22:15] seeing is a man who has been alleged to have
[00:22:19] rigged election. which made the BJP win in two
[00:22:22] states, so the moment if and when Gnyanesh Kumar
[00:22:26] resigns, questions will now surface on Modi and
[00:22:30] all the elections, state elections he has won in the last 12 years, so I
[00:22:33] do not think that the Modi government is ready to face the floor when it comes to
[00:22:37] accountability over all the state elections we have
[00:22:41] had, like we just had elections in three states this year, we
[00:22:45] also have elections in two to three other states the next year, so what
[00:22:49] is com? is greater for them than what has gone by, so in
[00:22:53] order to hold to the power they have had since 12 years,
[00:22:56] they will not let gyanesh Kumar resign, because once he resigns
[00:23:00] he will also have to answer who are the people who
[00:23:04] you know, if he has actually rigged votes, who were the people who made him
[00:23:08] rig those votes, so that's like very complicated
[00:23:11] calculation we have right now, a quick
[00:23:15] question, tanya, when we look at detention of journalists for example, activists,
[00:23:19] politically... you know when what what
[00:23:23] Tarushi is saying, making it difficult for those journalists like
[00:23:26] herself who want to cover what's happening, you want to tell the
[00:23:30] world, you know, of course, what is happening at this time, what
[00:23:34] legal protections exist or should apply, when reporters
[00:23:38] document public protests, what remedies are available,
[00:23:42] if individuals are detained without adequate legal grounds,
[00:23:45] and what message lastly does this response send to the civil society?
[00:23:50] and ordinary citizens who want to challenge these this
[00:23:54] kind of inequality, this kind of injustice that is at
[00:23:57] play. illegal detention
[00:24:01] itself is unlawful and it's not allowed in law
[00:24:04] and for illegal detention you have to go before the high court in the
[00:24:08] rit of hebious corpus and you have to file a rit and you have to
[00:24:12] produce
[00:24:13] the the
[00:24:16] whosoever the protester or voter is you have. have
[00:24:20] to be appear before the court within 24 hours, so you cannot
[00:24:24] detain someone more than 24 hours, it
[00:24:28] illegal in Pakistan, even otherwise, and what I
[00:24:32] see that the journalists, they have freedom of speech, right to
[00:24:35] assemble, I told you under article 19 subsection one,
[00:24:39] and they have all the right, and Supreme Court of Pakistan is
[00:24:43] very, sorry, supreme court of India is very clear on this that
[00:24:46] the protest is the fundamental right and the un' able
[00:24:50] restrictions can lead to the constitutional crisis and you cannot
[00:24:54] stop them from protesting when it comes to peaceful
[00:24:57] protest, so illegal detention cannot go
[00:25:01] beyond 24 hours, you have to present that person before the
[00:25:05] magistrate within 24 hours. right, fair
[00:25:09] enough, thank you so much for being with us, thank you for updating us, tarushi, thank you for
[00:25:12] letting us know exactly what's happening, thank you for
[00:25:16] joining us, when we look at what's happening in India of course, under the Modi
[00:25:20] rule, things seem to be in shambles when we look at democracy,
[00:25:24] when we look at right to peaceful protest, when we look at accountability, when
[00:25:28] we look at the right to assembly, the government seems
[00:25:32] to be coming down on all those rights, a country that calls
[00:25:36] itself the greater democracy, greatest democracy in the world,
[00:25:39] seems to be flagrantly
[00:25:43] abusing all sorts of human rights, the right of
[00:25:46] journalists to cover the events, making it difficult l
[00:25:50] like Tarushi said even report what's happening on the
[00:25:54] ground, one certainly hopes that some sort of
[00:25:58] sanity will
[00:28:22] we saw earlier, the exchange rate has become considerably more stable, the
[00:28:26] external account has become more manageable, the interest rate on on
[00:28:30] treasury bonds or the yield in treasury bonds. is uh is going
[00:28:34] up for the first time in in
[00:28:37] Canadian history
[00:28:39] in regional countries and globally that America can be a friend, but if there
[00:28:43] is a choice between Israel and any particular country then America would always prefer
[00:28:46] Israel. the the atrocities or the crimes committed against the
[00:28:50] Palestinian people have started long before 2023.
[00:28:54] after the embarrassing debackle that India faced after
[00:28:58] Mark last year, this could help '
[00:29:02] you know attempt to repair the moral the armed
[00:29:06] forces, it has been clearly indicated from the Russian side
[00:29:10] that peace cannot be pushed forward, it can be
[00:29:14] softly and smoothly promoted, so it
[00:29:18] should be treated in very careful way. um, the
[00:29:21] economic, the clock for economic collapse and
[00:29:25] political collapse collapse, these are really two different class, by
[00:29:29] presenting my tribute and salute to the shodaya of Pakistan,
[00:29:32] considering the importance of today
[00:29:35] and and the sacrifices which they made for our beautiful country.
[00:29:38] Ukraine isn't not NATO member, but it's affects
[00:29:42] to the NATO and the European security. is the conflict, because I think under the
[00:29:46] current circumstances it's virtually impossible
[00:29:50] to end the Ukraine
[00:29:52] war.
[00:30:22] Good morning, assalamualaikum, you're watching Pakistan TV, with the news
[00:30:26] at this hour, Naim Farok Fayaz, let's begin with the
[00:30:29] headlines.
[00:30:48] a Pakistani resident has been killed and 11 others wounded in a fresh
[00:30:52] hoothi strike on Riyadh's international
[00:30:54] airport.