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[00:00:00] planting or harvesting
[00:00:01] a becomes a problem, energy vulnerable
[00:00:05] communities, and then public finance as well, and that maybe
[00:00:09] is
[00:00:09] the is the third part, and we can talk some more about that is, okay, so if all
[00:00:13] of these things happen, people are not
[00:00:16] of resilient, and the system itself cannot afford to absorb
[00:00:20] these crisis and now scrambles for money, where does that come
[00:00:23] from if countries like Pakistan have
[00:00:26] of to pay half, almost half
[00:00:30] of of their federal budget towards?
[00:00:30] in servicing
[00:00:31] that is true, I mean that and so much more and of course the crisis that the world is in gulf
[00:00:35] in the region as well is of course affecting countries such as Pakistan.
[00:00:39] Samuel, with oil that is above 100 US dollars a barrel,
[00:00:43] the UNDP estimates that a government support
[00:00:47] has prevented around 130 million additional
[00:00:50] people from falling into the poverty circle. as that
[00:00:54] money is running out and will run out very quickly, how can
[00:00:57] countries protect the struggling? in
[00:01:00] of your of point of view from higher
[00:01:01] of fuel, higher electricity and higher food prices without
[00:01:05] taking on unsustainable
[00:01:07] debt, so I think this
[00:01:11] is
[00:01:11] the this
[00:01:12] of is
[00:01:14] of the the conundrum or the complication that always happens, if you
[00:01:18] recall just in the past few months, the government has already implemented
[00:01:22] twice austerity measures and has added
[00:01:25] subsidies, now I think the thing that that this particular
[00:01:29] report. focuses on is the difference between blanket subsidies for
[00:01:33] everyone, that
[00:01:34] of course, financing institutions and lenders don't really look favorably
[00:01:38] upon, and targeted subsidies that actually address
[00:01:42] the most vulnerable, including the ones that I mentioned to you,
[00:01:45] and the duration as well, so it's
[00:01:48] of not long term, it always needs to be short term,
[00:01:50] and I
[00:01:51] a think that's the critical issue here,
[00:01:54] the what what the government is able to inject in terms of subsidy of social
[00:01:58] protection immediate. like for fuel for example that happened
[00:02:02] in
[00:02:02] of the last few months, i think that's fine, but the question is what
[00:02:06] happens after the next after few
[00:02:11] a months, you can see for example that overall around the
[00:02:15] world over the last couple of
[00:02:16] of years, there are nearly one billion, one billion
[00:02:20] people in the entire world population that are most
[00:02:24] vulnerable and becoming even poorer as we speak, the majority
[00:02:28] of which because
[00:02:29] of these small multiple crises are
[00:02:32] in south Asia, east
[00:02:35] Asia and sub saharan Africa.
[00:02:37] countries in these particular areas are
[00:02:41] most vulnerable to these shocks, so for one or
[00:02:45] two or three months you're able to make sure that 130 million
[00:02:48] people do not
[00:02:49] of fall deeper into poverty, but what's at stake is much bigger,
[00:02:53] what's at stake is this one billion
[00:02:57] people that actually are are really... uh
[00:03:00] in a difficult place. Secondly, how do you
[00:03:04] actually protect current investments, and that I think is the
[00:03:07] biggest challenge. I think one
[00:03:10] of the issues that Pakistan has a particularly rightful
[00:03:13] grievance around is the climate change and the climate
[00:03:17] finance issue. Where do you actually get
[00:03:20] support uh, when a crisis, like a
[00:03:24] flood happens, or a flood happens every two or three
[00:03:27] of years? Financing recovery.
[00:03:30] from borrowing, I think
[00:03:34] has become problematic for countries like Pakistan and many
[00:03:38] others. That's why I think in the
[00:03:40] in the discussions that are taking place probably these days in
[00:03:43] Bangkok, there will likely be
[00:03:45] a discussion around what is an optimum combination of supporting countries
[00:03:49] that are impacted by crises and shocks, whether they are the
[00:03:53] straight of for moves or whether they are climate change or COVID a
[00:03:57] couple of years ago, and how do you do it? "countries like
[00:04:00] Pakistan, it's clear that they are
[00:04:03] in the middle, lower middle income countries, and
[00:04:07] therefore there is grant support that will still come from vertical
[00:04:11] funds, etc., but there are also one or two other
[00:04:14] combinations that are important, lending is sovereign decision, I think
[00:04:18] it is important and critical, but needs to
[00:04:20] of be combined with other things and other instruments, so that
[00:04:24] the price of lending
[00:04:26] of isn't what ends up eating all of your revenue, so..."
[00:04:30] private sector investment, we just concluded
[00:04:34] of of last week, national sustainable development goal investment fair, where there's a link
[00:04:38] between what the public sector
[00:04:41] me needs in terms of good investments for transport, for
[00:04:44] of tourism, etc.
[00:04:46] of and what the private sector is able to finance, and all of that
[00:04:50] aligned to the development ambitions of this
[00:04:53] particular country, and maybe I just close with one idea, Omar, which is
[00:04:57] insurance, if all
[00:04:59] of these shocks are... happening, the question of insurance, whether it's risk
[00:05:02] insurance, climate insurance, disaster risk insurance is really
[00:05:06] in quite of important
[00:05:07] in a
[00:05:08] of country this big, but has
[00:05:10] a only of one% of of GDP penetration of... insurance, it really is
[00:05:14] difficult prospect for lot of very
[00:05:17] vulnerable communities who are
[00:05:25] go through my next questions very quickly and and if you could just give short
[00:05:28] answer so that we can you know kind of cover the
[00:05:32] conversation during these few minutes that are left. the world met
[00:05:36] meteological organization expects the elnino to peak around december persist through
[00:05:40] february of 2027 potentially. becoming one the strongest since
[00:05:43] 1950, crops and livelihoods are at risk, what should countries like
[00:05:47] Pakistan do now to prepare farmers, protect food supplies and strengthen warnings for
[00:05:51] extreme weather? well, the first
[00:05:55] thing is warning, early warning, I think us in UNDP, plus many
[00:05:59] other national entities here and many
[00:06:02] others, have been offering better and better tools and instruments
[00:06:06] to be able to offer early warning support, you know,
[00:06:09] in in cases of around, March, April, May,
[00:06:13] June and around the summer when it gets really warm, and
[00:06:17] this will become more and more the case in the future. Early warning for floods
[00:06:21] that maybe originate in the in the north because of glacial
[00:06:24] lake outburst floods, I think that's important.
[00:06:28] Secondly, Monsoon early warning,
[00:06:32] and especially when, like I said, agricultural
[00:06:35] seasons are delayed, etc., so the early warning part I
[00:06:39] think is really quite important, and the ag cultural sector, i think
[00:06:43] is particularly critical there as well, the reason
[00:06:47] we talk about agriculture is for food security for the most
[00:06:51] part, and i think being able to support vulnerable household with food
[00:06:55] security is really quite important, programs like bisp are already doing
[00:06:59] great, in fact of all the development funding that
[00:07:02] appears to be downsizing in the
[00:07:06] federal budgets, social protection instrument like
[00:07:09] this are actually growing, "I think that's
[00:07:13] important and there always needs to
[00:07:14] be fiscal space for that as well,
[00:07:18] and I think like I said, the early warning part is really quite
[00:07:21] important. All I would say about early warning is how quickly
[00:07:25] one can actually move from warning, warning, to analysis,
[00:07:29] to response, and I think these days there's
[00:07:32] technology that actually enables countries like Pakistan to do
[00:07:36] so. All right, my next question concerns the borrowing rates,
[00:07:40] now the UNDP puts..." borrowing rates for
[00:07:43] countries with weaker credit rating at around 9%. debt
[00:07:47] justice reports that average cuts of 8% in education and 2% in overall
[00:07:51] public spending in countries facing serious debt trouble. how can
[00:07:54] governments protect schools, the healthcare system, household support while meeting the debt
[00:07:58] payments? the debt justice also wants burden some debts cancelled
[00:08:02] including those that are odd to banks, hedge funds and oil traders and
[00:08:06] changes to the G20's debt reconstructuring system,
[00:08:09] restructuring system. now UNDP wants that ations could take
[00:08:13] months, should lenders offer immediate pause in repayments as during covid,
[00:08:17] alongside cheaper emergency finance, while longer term relief is
[00:08:20] negotiated, your take,
[00:08:24] so so I know I've been sounding like lot of bad news and doom and gloom
[00:08:28] scenarios, but there in there is one positive thing that has happened over the
[00:08:31] last couple of years, which is macroeconomic stabilization that has
[00:08:35] actually moved Pakistan up in the credit ratings, which means Pakistan can
[00:08:39] borrow at better rates, Pakistan. can issue
[00:08:43] bonds that are acceptable in global markets and that
[00:08:47] means that
[00:08:47] you know the first big step towards towards
[00:08:51] increasing the the pi, which is
[00:08:54] growth is really taking place and hopefully that reaches the
[00:08:58] next step which is supporting human
[00:09:00] development and human development indicators as
[00:09:04] well, so that's the first positive thing, the second positive thing
[00:09:08] is that Pakistan has an experience of of
[00:09:12] that. swaps for example, that is just one instrument among many
[00:09:15] different instruments that are likely being discussed. that swaps
[00:09:19] have worked here debt for development projects, debt for climate over the
[00:09:23] last one or two decades with Germany, with Canada and many others, and
[00:09:27] I think that's important and important avenue
[00:09:30] that is made more
[00:09:34] positive by the macroeconomic stabilization that many lenders
[00:09:38] can actually see and say, okay, our debt we can actually swap
[00:09:42] for, development indicators, so of all the doom and gloom, I
[00:09:46] think these are two things that are important to note as well, maybe
[00:09:50] just lastly last year, in
[00:09:52] the big finance for development conference in in Sevilla and Spain, the fourth
[00:09:56] conference, all these, all these discussions actually took
[00:10:00] place around what is the optimum balance
[00:10:03] between in development finance, between what can
[00:10:07] be grant money, what can be private sector and private investment
[00:10:11] money, what is a good pipeline that
[00:10:15] can actually be put forward that investors can now see because the
[00:10:18] confidence a country and therefore can attract local and
[00:10:22] international investors and then of course how can you
[00:10:25] move up in credit ratings like Pakistan has done for the
[00:10:29] last couple of years because of macroeconomic stabilization? all right,
[00:10:33] but very quickly, very quickly, can burden some debts be
[00:10:37] cancelled, can there be immediate pause in repayments, can
[00:10:41] there be cheaper emergency finance? yes or
[00:10:43] no? yeah, so there are there is
[00:10:47] precedent for that obviously, there was some relief around covid time, but you
[00:10:51] know all the discussions around that are really in the hands '
[00:10:55] are a sovereign decision uh so to speak. I think what we
[00:10:59] are saying in in UNDP is
[00:11:01] that there's no particular issue with
[00:11:03] with debt as long as you can repay and as long as it is
[00:11:07] actually blended well with other instruments and as long as
[00:11:11] it doesn't become burdensome on countries that
[00:11:14] already have fiscal issues. I think that is
[00:11:18] the summation of what we see in the discussions that probably UNDP
[00:11:21] administrator and IMF heads and others will actually...
[00:11:25] do this week and hopefully those yield positive benefits for
[00:11:29] Pakistan. All right, speaking of that, very, very quick
[00:11:32] answer, UNDP administrator, your boss Alexander
[00:11:36] the Crew supports the IMF chief Crystalina Jojeva's call for
[00:11:40] spending restraint in richer countries, but also wants coordinated help for
[00:11:43] developing nations. What must the Bangkok meetings now deliver
[00:11:47] and how can Pakistan build lasting resilience? If I could have very short answer to
[00:11:51] that. A very short answer is the
[00:11:55] Bangkok, I would say the Bangkok meetings need to deliver
[00:11:59] uh, first of all, a way for immediate relief to all
[00:12:03] countries, Pakistan included, that are heavily
[00:12:06] impacted by the crisis uh in the Middle East, and
[00:12:10] I think one of those will be energy, one of those will have to be or
[00:12:14] another one will have to be about food security, and I really
[00:12:17] hope that we start to see um, a
[00:12:21] perspective on the need to uh stop.
[00:12:26] the the the the origin the crisis, which is the
[00:12:29] political crisis, to actually start normalizing everything
[00:12:33] else in the economic and development space. i think if there's
[00:12:37] enough political pressure from the economists to actually
[00:12:41] stop the cause the war that is actually overburdening everyone, the most
[00:12:45] vulnerable included, that will be the best relief that's possible
[00:12:49] for for Pakistan and everyone else. thank you very much,
[00:12:53] Dr. Samuel Risk, resident representative of... UNDP Pakistan to have joined us and to
[00:12:57] have given us this exclusive in order to further
[00:13:00] understand what all of this means for development programs and of course how
[00:13:04] important is the meeting that is happening is Bangkok and we speak. Thank you very much
[00:13:17] patients must never be mistaken for weakness. Our soldiers, our police, our
[00:13:21] citizens have paid a terrible price for terrorism. As security forces strike.
[00:13:25] terrorist networks Islamabad is reminding action against their Afghan sanctuaries.
[00:13:28] Pakistan wants peace, but protecting Pakistani lives is non
[00:13:32] negotiable. Kabul must deliver action, not just
[00:13:35] promises. To discuss that in more detail, we have been joined by air
[00:13:39] commodor retired Khalid Chishti saab, who is of course a leading defense
[00:13:43] analyst. Khalid saab, thank you very much to have joined us. From Banu to North
[00:13:47] Waziristan, security forces are eliminating terrorists and dismantling
[00:13:50] hidouts under Azmir Sehkam. After the deadly attacks in Kuhart and Derice.
[00:13:55] khan, how can these operations break entire networks including their commanders,
[00:13:59] weapons, supplies and local facilitators? our minister for
[00:14:02] information saab says, afghanistan hosts over
[00:14:06] 600 ttp terrorists with afghan soil used for recruitment, training and
[00:14:09] attacks. what concrete action must kabul take to dismantle these
[00:14:13] sanctuaries rather than simply move terrorists deeper into
[00:14:25] absolutely a concerning matter that you brought in,
[00:14:29] this is a country which has fought terrorism for decades now
[00:14:32] and I think enemy still probably not
[00:14:36] checked our threshold, we have shown lot of patience and
[00:14:39] perseverance, but obviously as I keep saying that obviously so many
[00:14:43] casualities and so many sacrifices Pakistan has given, we
[00:14:47] run out options because we have to retaliate, but unfortunate
[00:14:51] part these kind of conflict is that they do not have clear cut damage.
[00:14:56] a confined borders, no timelines, no methodology
[00:14:59] the weapons used and of no timings of course which time do they carry out
[00:15:03] these attacks, a formal war or a conflict like what we had
[00:15:07] against India was obviously had some parameters, although Indians
[00:15:11] obviously attack past midnight as a surprise, but from then on
[00:15:14] obviously the response was brutal, timely and very
[00:15:18] effective, but when it came to the seasfire obviously we all went back
[00:15:22] to the airbases or these units and stations and the... lines,
[00:15:26] but unfortunately these terrorism do not have confined borders, you
[00:15:30] have to have continuous not only vigilance, updation the
[00:15:33] data and ready response '
[00:15:37] "most challenging has been the area that Pakistan has had
[00:15:41] such wonderful ties with, especially the people
[00:15:43] of Afghanistan, that has been probably the most hold bar for
[00:15:47] all of us that we do not want escalate to level where the common people
[00:15:51] are effective, but if we do not do that, the enemies
[00:15:55] misunderstand that we probably do not have the courage or
[00:15:59] resolve or the capability, that has to be obviously checked right there
[00:16:02] and that if the believe that we do not have the capability, we definitely have the
[00:16:06] capability, but the..." years have been very very calculated and as I
[00:16:09] said such conflicts do not have cleared parameters, the enemy
[00:16:13] exploits and the people especially who fund these
[00:16:17] terrorists, they exploit this dynamic that the
[00:16:20] confined borders are not there, timings are not there, types of weapons are not there, so they use it
[00:16:24] to the offensive, they keep changing the places, they keep changing tactics
[00:16:28] and obviously the keep changing the obviously the timings as I
[00:16:32] said, so it is a continuous ongoing
[00:16:35] campaign which cannot have borders. because the asymmetry nature
[00:16:39] the warfare. All right, reports also Khalid sah, prepared by
[00:16:43] the Khair Pakhtunkhah police and intelligence agencies show a
[00:16:46] 195% rise in terrorist incidents with police and security
[00:16:50] personnel targeted in most these attacks. With terrorist increasingly
[00:16:54] using drones and roadside bombs, what urgent improvements do you feel are needed
[00:16:57] in police training, in CDT equipment, in intelligence coordination and who
[00:17:01] must answer for the gaps in preparedness? Absolutely,
[00:17:05] no nation can fight any. or what to talk of terrorism and I said and
[00:17:09] you also pointed out that we need to have the nation behind the armed forces,
[00:17:13] paramilitary forces, law enforcement agencies
[00:17:15] definitely cannot, no armed forces in the world can fight
[00:17:19] unless the people are behind them, number one, that's a must and that's a non
[00:17:23] negotiable obviously option, that number two is it's
[00:17:27] what you you observe it very rightly, now they've started to target police
[00:17:31] and paramilitary forces, that obviously supports my answer to the first
[00:17:35] question and I said they keep changing the tactice. because when the armed forces,
[00:17:39] particularly the army goes very highly vigilant, they protect themselves, they go
[00:17:43] to the civilians, when we start to come down to protecting civilians, they
[00:17:46] start to attack the paramilitary and especially the police, so the police is
[00:17:50] not supposed to be so much protected or train to fight
[00:17:54] against these asymmetric warfare gorillas and
[00:17:57] terrorists, so obviously they become relatively easy target, and
[00:18:01] the the challenging thing is that police centers are all the
[00:18:05] time located inside the civil proximity. they have to protect the civilian
[00:18:09] lives, so they do not have stand alone units elsewhere where they can have a
[00:18:13] fortress or a compound which can be protected like armed forces or
[00:18:17] military and especially the army does. in police case, they are located inside
[00:18:21] the cities, so it's very difficult to filter out which
[00:18:24] obviously van or vehicle is the terrorist vehicle and which is a common
[00:18:27] innocent civilian coming in, so it's more challenging, so i think we have to train
[00:18:31] the police men and the women obviously accordingly that they
[00:18:35] have to be more vigilant. and I think more of
[00:18:38] intelligence input will be more effective and one more solution that I
[00:18:42] keep offering every time that I am coming on the television,
[00:18:45] I said we have to have neighborhood watch, there is no police
[00:18:49] in the world which can fight unless the people support, they have a lookout, they
[00:18:53] identify suspicious movements or people or the
[00:18:57] symptoms, they have to report and look out for the people who
[00:19:00] manipulate or conspire these things, if you leave everything
[00:19:04] to police or the army or the paramilitary forces. It's extremely
[00:19:08] challenging, not only for Pakistan
[00:19:10] but global, so I think we need to have that what I am calling neighborhood
[00:19:14] watch, that means I must look out for my neighbors, who is living there, who is
[00:19:18] sponsoring them, what is their way of earning, is this the family
[00:19:22] or some obviously a group of people living there, so I think it's
[00:19:25] mutual lookout which will enable and help arm forces to perform their
[00:19:29] duties much effectively. All right, Khalid saab,
[00:19:33] the Khair Pakhton Khan Apex committee meeting that was held today pledges stronger.
[00:19:37] operations, better equipment and more personnel alongside education, health care
[00:19:41] and development. how can authorities turn these commitments into protecting
[00:19:45] people into protection that people need to feel
[00:19:49] while ensuring that the patriotic communities of KP
[00:19:52] help shape the response? this
[00:19:56] is generally a long-term process, umar sah, you will agree with me that you cannot just
[00:20:00] switch it on and off that okay, they are trained, they are well equipped, they are well aware,
[00:20:04] that's number one, it's a long-term process, we need to build the... capabilities
[00:20:08] because the enemy is changing the tactics, like I said to the answer to the first
[00:20:11] question that they keep changing the tactics, sometimes they come after the civilian, the innocent
[00:20:15] people, sometime after the schools, sometime against the military units and sometime
[00:20:19] against the police, so they change the tactics, so I think we need to
[00:20:23] enable police not only to guard themselves, but have more
[00:20:27] sophisticated communication network, they
[00:20:29] can report matters, they can take actions and they are better equipped and
[00:20:33] trained to take on timely response obviously, that's that's the most important thing.
[00:20:37] and obviously as I said the people have to be behind the forces, that's the most important
[00:20:41] thing, but as I said the apex city can come out with the
[00:20:45] resolve or a directive, but it just doesn't happen next morning. You have
[00:20:49] to enable them. over the period of time they have been an element of
[00:20:52] mis governance, there have been the money has not filtered down
[00:20:56] to the real people or the people who really
[00:20:59] matter, so that has to be ensured, so I think it will take a
[00:21:03] while before we actually start to see the manifestation these
[00:21:06] decision, but as I said it's an ongoing thing, it's not time
[00:21:10] bored and it's not location b. I understand
[00:21:13] perfectly, our deputy prime minister and foreign minister is
[00:21:17] demands concrete verificable and irreversible. action against terrorist groups
[00:21:21] and has raised allegations of Indian sponsorship. now after
[00:21:24] repeated diplomatic engagement including the Pakistan, China, Afghanistan talks,
[00:21:28] what pressure and international cooperation can secure
[00:21:31] compliance, cut terrorist financing and expose any external
[00:21:35] backing. Omar sah, I think this is the most
[00:21:38] effective and that's the most prompt methodology that we can
[00:21:42] follow if the other countries choose to support us. Unfortunate part has
[00:21:46] been that many the countries which are relevant and they can't play their
[00:21:50] role, either they look the other side or they look at their national
[00:21:54] interest first and look at the priority what Pakistan is contributing in the
[00:21:58] global peace that look they look
[00:22:00] it at later. Pakistan has been one the leading peace maker
[00:22:03] globally which has been established, recognized by any saying mind,
[00:22:07] see what we would contributed our military and political leadership has done
[00:22:11] for Iran and America award for last about eight months
[00:22:15] hactic efforts have gone into obviously bridge the gap
[00:22:19] between what America. wants and what the Iranians want, so we've earned the
[00:22:22] credibility and obviously that suns, but doesn't go well with the
[00:22:26] enemies of Pakistan, so they want to create the trust deficit within the
[00:22:29] country and outside, so I think the more effective
[00:22:33] diplomatic campaign making these world power,
[00:22:37] especially China, Russia and America, they have their own
[00:22:40] speciality, we all know that China has the economic leverage over
[00:22:44] Afghan people, it's building road network, it had offered that we will
[00:22:47] China is ready to build up a train network and Afghanistan that
[00:22:51] obviously is a big respite and a breathing especially especially Pakistan
[00:22:55] borders close these days so China can kind of
[00:22:59] get leverage at the cost of something as dividend can ask taliban to
[00:23:03] avoid terrorism especially against Pakistan number one number two Russia is the
[00:23:07] only country which has recognized Afghan government although they've done it for their national
[00:23:10] interest because they are busy in Ukraine war so they do not want escalate any other
[00:23:14] border so it's in their national interest but it has lot of leverage because that's the only
[00:23:18] country which is recognizing. and US of course we all know
[00:23:22] that it had long negotiation doha agreement in which these
[00:23:26] Talibans promised that it will be new Afghanistan when Americans leave
[00:23:30] they left 7.2 billions of weapons and ammunitions obviously with the trust
[00:23:34] and the understanding so if the Taliban are not responding
[00:23:37] respecting the binding and the obligation the agreement between the
[00:23:41] America and Taliban who else could make sure that they abide by.
[00:23:45] So that's what I'm saying three countries the super powers or the major powers
[00:23:49] globally and reginally, they
[00:23:51] have huge influence on Taliban, so I think they can play a very
[00:23:54] comprehensive role in obviously helping us to get rid of this
[00:23:57] mass. All right, thank you so very much Khalid
[00:24:01] Chishti sab to have joined us and to have discussed this very important issue of
[00:24:04] terrorism that of course continues to rear its ugly head from the
[00:24:08] Afghan soil of course including Indian patronage as we all very know we discussed so many
[00:24:12] times and let's hope solution comes and solution that both short
[00:24:16] term and long term as well again a big thanks to you. This
[00:24:20] brings us to the end of today's beyond borders, we have three more days to go, lots to
[00:24:23] discuss, there are so many issues that pertain to the world and I
[00:24:27] would like to bring all of those with different perspectives for you to finally
[00:24:30] take home with you what you feel is the
[00:24:33] right you know way ahead, till tomorrow evening, uma
[00:24:37] khafiz.
[00:25:10] that I unfortunately got rid of much more than
[00:25:14] million federal workers who hated me for doing
[00:25:18] it, hated me, but... "now they love me,
[00:25:21] because they've all gotten jobs in the private sector for much
[00:25:25] more money, and they like the job much more than their federal
[00:25:29] job, think of it, now they like me, it took a little while to figure it out, but
[00:25:33] now they like me, we had 10 workers to do one job, you'd have
[00:25:37] one job, we had 10 workers sitting around to do, so we fired,
[00:25:41] fired, we whatever we did, i don't know what you call it, like the apprentice, you're
[00:25:44] fired, get the hell out of here, no, didn't do it that
[00:25:47] way." somebody asked, if you
[00:25:51] didn't do, we talked about this with Market, they get such
[00:25:54] question, so the apprentice was one the top shows
[00:25:58] ever, but it was one the top shows, it
[00:26:01] went for... seasons over 12 years in other words couple
[00:26:05] of seasons it was so good they ran it twice which is very unusual but
[00:26:08] it was one and there's a question out
[00:26:12] there if I didn't do the apprentice I didn't do it
[00:26:15] now they picked me because I was famous and I was successful right but if I
[00:26:19] didn't do the apprentice would I be
[00:26:22] president now I think
[00:26:25] yes if I didn't do what do you think if
[00:26:29] I didn't do the that question is asked. they blame the people
[00:26:33] that put on the show, they said you're the one that gave
[00:26:37] him. no, it was a tremendous success, but at questions often
[00:26:40] asked, if he didn't do the apprentice, you think, i think so,
[00:26:44] you know, they say they got to know me, because you're in, you're getting lot of
[00:26:47] airtime, so maybe they like to me, who the hell knows, all i know is we do a good job, the
[00:26:51] poverty rate has just reached its
[00:26:55] lowest level in the history of our
[00:26:58] country, look
[00:27:01] good.
[00:27:05] African-American poverty, Hispanic American
[00:27:08] poverty and native American poverty rates are at
[00:27:12] their all-time lowest levels ever
[00:27:15] recorded,
[00:27:16] ever,
[00:27:21] and the stock market just did it again today. We have
[00:27:24] 84 all-time record high since the election
[00:27:28] was just a little more than year and a half ago.
[00:27:32] "after years of steel mills and factories closing across
[00:27:36] Ohio, our steel industry is roaring back to life,
[00:27:40] manufacturing is booming, and American exports have
[00:27:44] soared to the highest level in
[00:27:47] history, remember when Barack Hussein Obama said we're never going to manufacture
[00:27:51] again, we just set record for exports, in other
[00:27:55] words we make a product by and we, it's a big record to, and you
[00:27:59] haven't seen anything with these factories, we're building more fac'. and
[00:28:03] plants right now that any time in our
[00:28:06] history, the pharmaceutical business is building hundreds of
[00:28:10] billions eli lilily, fiser, hundreds of
[00:28:14] millions of plants in these in the country, the
[00:28:18] auto industry, the i have to say our
[00:28:22] new word, what's the word intelligence, it's not
[00:28:25] artificial anymore, it's super intelligence,
[00:28:29] super intelligence
[00:28:30] and everybody likes it. everybody likes
[00:28:33] it, everybody likes, no, it's a much more accurate
[00:28:37] word, because it's not artificial, it's real intelligence, it may
[00:28:40] be too strong, actually, but it's super intelligence, that's what it is, it's
[00:28:44] a much better word, much more descriptive
[00:28:47] word, but less than two years
[00:28:50] ago, and every leader said this, but
[00:28:54] the king of Saudi Arabia said to me, a short time ago,
[00:28:58] sir, your country was dead, and now you have the hottest country
[00:29:02] anywhere. the hottest country anywhere in the
[00:29:04] world,
[00:29:10] mean think of that, venezuela in 48
[00:29:14] minutes, it was over 48 minutes, nobody talks about that,
[00:29:18] they never like to talk about that,
[00:29:21] you know,
[00:29:22] you know we were in Vietnam for 21 years, we were in
[00:29:26] Afghanistan for seven or eight years, where every one
[00:29:30] these was eight years, nine years, 10. years,
[00:29:33] 12 years, 21 years, thousands of people
[00:29:37] killed each time, so we've been
[00:29:40] in Iran, very powerful
[00:29:43] country, or they used to be, they not powerful anymore, but very
[00:29:47] powerful country, and
[00:29:51] this should have been done long ago by other presidents, why did it
[00:29:55] have to be me, but
[00:29:56] it had to be me, because they were two weeks away from having a
[00:30:00] nuclear weapon, we knocked that out, those beautiful. two bombers, they came from
[00:30:03] Missouri,
[00:30:11] but we are now, think
[00:30:12] of it, we are now, despite for
[00:30:16] you. US president Donald Trump is speaking at the midtem rally at Youngstan
[00:30:20] Ohio and he said that he's continuing campaign push ahead the midtem elections
[00:30:24] as well, and he said that artificial intelligence is no longer artificial, it's
[00:30:28] super intelligence and definitely America is working on it to make more
[00:30:31] America. great
[00:30:32] again,
[00:30:39] good morning and a way warm welcome to pakistan tv, i am fizah sajaval, we are
[00:30:43] moving towards top stories of this
[00:30:45] hour.