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[00:02:10] the Arab leaders in tried to follow this Dear viewers, peace, mercy, and blessings of God be upon you, and welcome
[00:02:14] to a new episode of the "Today's File"
[00:02:17] program, in which we will follow in its first part
[00:02:21] the midterm elections in the United States of America
[00:02:25] and what happened with the
[00:02:27] to form a government. This does not Democrats taking control of these
[00:02:31] Lieberman within this elections in Congress, in both
[00:02:34] any Arab support from
[00:02:34] within both parties. In its chambers, the Senate and the House of Representatives, as well as
[00:02:38] the success of representatives
[00:02:41] in states and cities
[00:02:46] and we have started to see its impact on that have not seen such a strong presence of Democrats for many years, with this strength
[00:02:50] that occurred, and this influx and enthusiasm from
[00:02:53] the Arab members in the American voter in light of
[00:02:56] what the recent years have witnessed in terms of
[00:03:00] conditions that greatly affected their lives. We are pleased to
[00:03:03] host with us from Washington via Zoom Dr.
[00:03:07] Hanna Hanan, an activist in Palestinian-American
[00:03:18] Washington, but you came from Michigan. Please
[00:03:22] tell us, first, about the atmosphere that this
[00:03:26] about 10 to 15% of state was experiencing and the
[00:03:28] Congress, and almost 10 of fierce competition led by Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed.
[00:03:31] The atmosphere was very fierce, and there were very
[00:03:35] big battles between the candidates, and the atmosphere in the state was
[00:03:38] an electoral atmosphere par excellence,
[00:03:42] at least 48 policies to be used in as you could see most of the candidates' rallies, festivals, and campaigns all over the state,
[00:03:46] and there was a very large popular participation in these
[00:03:50] elections, as it was one of
[00:03:53] within both chambers of the highest, and the Palestinian issue was very
[00:03:56] implications as well in present, especially since the Democratic candidate was one of the candidates considered
[00:04:01] the change happening with to be supporters of the rights of the Palestinian
[00:04:02] unions or even with people, so it was clear in
[00:04:05] laws or decisions that he the election campaign, and the participation of the Arab community, which represents about 4% of
[00:04:09] the state, was very large. Yes, Dr.
[00:04:12] Hanna, the language of discourse that was used
[00:04:16] and addressed the American by
[00:04:19] Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed focused on his
[00:04:23] as Biden also did in social life, the money that goes out
[00:04:26] without benefit to other places for conflicts
[00:04:30] and wars, and should be for Americans. How much did it contribute
[00:04:33] to, I mean, this in addition to the policies
[00:04:36] used by the Trump administration,
[00:04:40] contributed greatly to his victory in these elections,
[00:04:44] and there are other factors that contributed to his victory in the
[00:04:47] elections. His opposing candidate tried to change
[00:04:50] the way of elections and to move away from
[00:04:52] for the administration on this
[00:04:54] elections, what we call the primaries, happened these matters and to focus on his origins, his religion, his principles,
[00:04:58] and his support for the Palestinian
[00:05:00] people. These positions were tried to be highlighted
[00:05:03] in a way that was not good, but it reflected a very
[00:05:09] God willing, we will start to see more significant development, as in the end they won or won by a very large margin. I mean, it was a historic day
[00:05:12] par excellence for someone who has been working in American politics for
[00:05:16] 33 years. I never expected that we would reach
[00:05:20] this stage in the American elections, or where
[00:05:25] the American elections was, first, a political earthquake in the United
[00:05:28] States, an earthquake against President Trump and a call for
[00:05:32] change in his policies.
[00:05:35] But for us, as defenders of the rights of the Palestinian
[00:05:38] people, this was a historic day par excellence, and this should be
[00:05:42] the day that will lead to a major change in American
[00:05:45] policy. In fact, words cannot express our
[00:05:48] happiness and joy about what happened, and they do not express
[00:05:52] the historical meaning of the achievement that happened yesterday, which was not just
[00:05:56] Aboud alone. There were several other candidates who won
[00:05:59] the elections, and this will
[00:06:02] pave the way for the presidential elections in two years, and will
[00:06:06] pave the way for the Palestinian, Arab, and Islamic communities
[00:06:09] and defenders of the rights of the Palestinian people
[00:06:14] the next elections, God willing. I mean, this
[00:06:18] achievement by the Democrats
[00:06:22] Congress in both chambers, the Senate and the House of Representatives, what meanings
[00:06:25] does it carry, Dr.
[00:06:27] Hanna?
[00:06:33] I want to focus more, I will not focus on its meaning for the American people, but we can come back
[00:06:37] to this later. Many
[00:06:40] Democratic Party leaders used to say that a candidate who supports
[00:06:44] the Palestinian people will not be able to succeed in states like
[00:06:48] Michigan, where they used to say that these candidates
[00:06:51] can succeed in states where Democrats
[00:06:54] dominate, but swing states cannot
[00:06:58] elect a person who supports the Palestinian people in this way.
[00:07:02] But what yesterday's elections proved is that this talk
[00:07:05] is wrong, and that on the contrary, a person who supports the rights of the Palestinian
[00:07:08] people can succeed and succeed easily in these
[00:07:11] states. And yesterday we saw developments that we had not
[00:07:15] witnessed, I mean, in the history of American politics. For example, President
[00:07:18] Trump's statement yesterday morning before the elections that he would stop
[00:07:22] aid to Israel, this is a very historic thing. Usually, they used to
[00:07:26] compete over who would give more aid. And also,
[00:07:29] what the Vice President said today, where he said that a large
[00:07:33] part of Republicans did not vote for the Republican Party, and he
[00:07:36] put one of the four main reasons
[00:07:40] as the United States' relations with Israel. So for us,
[00:07:43] this means a historic day par excellence
[00:07:47] the past, we used to talk about relations within one party,
[00:07:51] but what happened yesterday showed that supporting the Palestinian people
[00:07:54] has become something on the popular base, something big,
[00:07:59] the American elections. There is one last step, which is
[00:08:02] that we start to see it in foreign policy,
[00:08:05] and I believe, after yesterday's leap,
[00:08:08] it has become very difficult not to reach a change in foreign
[00:08:12] policy. And let's say most of
[00:08:15] the candidates who won, whom we were supporting, and their
[00:08:18] number is about 20 candidates, these support the rights of the Palestinian
[00:08:21] people completely, completely, and there will be
[00:08:25] about 40 new members of Congress,
[00:08:28] and they are better than the existing members to varying
[00:08:31] degrees, but they are better by several degrees,
[00:08:35] most of them, and this total is
[00:08:40] the House, almost 10 to 19% of the Senate. We are talking
[00:08:44] about a very big development and a historic
[00:08:47] step. Does it mean that the concept
[00:08:50] that money
[00:08:54] and sweet talk no longer work
[00:08:57] with the American voter? Has the message reached politicians in this
[00:09:01] way? 100%. I mean, if you remember,
[00:09:04] in previous meetings months ago, we were talking about the change happening
[00:09:08] in the popular base, the change happening with students,
[00:09:15] churches. But we always used to say that there is no
[00:09:18] change in politicians, all members of Congress are our enemies and so
[00:09:22] on. But, I mean, today, and I am comfortable, maybe
[00:09:26] I told you once before that it might take us 10 years to reach a stage where there is
[00:09:30] a change in Congress. Today, on the contrary, after what happened yesterday,
[00:09:33] it is clear that we have made several steps forward, and it is clear that the change that
[00:09:37] exists on the street has started to show its results on, let's
[00:09:40] say, politicians. Of course, I mean, it will still take
[00:09:44] time for its results to appear on foreign policy, because President
[00:09:47] Trump still controls a large group of foreign
[00:09:50] policies, but there will be an impact in these
[00:09:54] two years, but more importantly,
[00:09:57] it has become possible for a candidate to come and say that he supports the Palestinian
[00:10:00] people and to show that he can win elections,
[00:10:04] and elections in a swing state.
[00:10:07] How decisive was the role of youth in these elections, Dr.
[00:10:10] Hanna? The generation.
[00:10:14] I mean, young people were the decisive factor in these elections.
[00:10:17] Young people are the ones who are changing and changing,
[00:10:21] especially in the Republican Party. I mean, in the Republican Party, and I never
[00:10:25] expected that I would say that we would see this change happening,
[00:10:30] Republicans who will not go and vote for the Republican Party because of
[00:10:33] the President's policy towards Israel, and especially among
[00:10:36] young people, we are seeing a very big change, even among the Jewish
[00:10:40] community, we are seeing a change. I mean, they tried
[00:10:45] the United States, in Michigan, against Abdul
[00:10:49] and not to elect Abdul because of his foreign policy, but the numbers show that
[00:10:54] the men...
[00:10:57] I mean, once I was at a festival they held, a group
[00:11:01] of them, there were about 200 volunteers coming from other
[00:11:04] states to help Abdul in his election
[00:11:06] campaign. The failure of 50 million dollars
[00:11:10] to bring down Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed, what do these
[00:11:13] numbers mean? I mean, we are quoting them as published by American
[00:11:16] media. And most likely it will be more than that,
[00:11:20] but a lot of it is also money that is not visible. I mean, Abdel Rahman had
[00:11:26] the elections to get money out of elections, because they are
[00:11:30] used to being able to change a lot of foreign policies with money,
[00:11:33] and there was intimidation of members of Congress that if they did not
[00:11:37] go along with them the way they wanted them to, they would launch large
[00:11:40] election campaigns against them and they could
[00:11:43] fund them with large amounts of money. But yesterday's
[00:11:46] elections in Michigan with Abdel Rahman, in Texas,
[00:11:50] and in several other states showed that if the
[00:11:53] voter knows what he is doing, this money did not affect
[00:11:57] him. I mean, I'll give you an example. I was in Michigan, I turned on the TV
[00:12:00] on Monday morning, there were maybe four ads in a row,
[00:12:04] all showing Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed as a terrorist.
[00:12:08] I mean, frankly, anyone who doesn't know him, just by seeing these ads,
[00:12:11] will involuntarily start to think that he is a terrorist. So they
[00:12:14] invested a lot, they tried very
[00:12:18] hard to silence him. For them, it was a battle of victory because
[00:12:21] for them, they wanted to prove that a person who supports the rights
[00:12:25] of the Palestinian people cannot succeed in elections in order
[00:12:29] to pave the way for the upcoming presidential elections. And the
[00:12:32] Democratic Party itself
[00:12:35] approach, and they also followed it not only in Michigan,
[00:12:38] but also in Florida, and they tried to say that
[00:12:41] always if the person is not one of what they call the centrists or
[00:12:45] the establishment, he will not succeed in general elections.
[00:12:49] But, I mean, Abdel Rahman proved that this talk is wrong.
[00:12:52] Yesterday he overturned your concepts among the American
[00:12:56] people, and those who try to buy allegiances with money. I mean, it started
[00:13:00] to break. So, I mean, Kansas winning
[00:13:03] a Democrat for the first time since 1932.
[00:13:06] I mean, how do you see that, Dr. Hanna? There is
[00:13:10] great anger among the American people against President
[00:13:13] Trump's policies, and in fact, yesterday's elections were
[00:13:17] a referendum by the American people on President
[00:13:20] Trump's policies. The American people are feeling exorbitant
[00:13:23] prices, very, very high prices. They feel that a large
[00:13:27] part of this inflation was fabricated, a large
[00:13:30] part of it, the rise in gasoline prices, which is due to the war on
[00:13:33] Iran, and remember that President Trump, when he ran his election campaign,
[00:13:37] he was campaigning as the president who would prevent wars, and many
[00:13:41] people, especially in Michigan, many people were upset about this issue, and they were
[00:13:45] saying that he promised us he wouldn't start wars, but he started a war, and we are the ones who are
[00:13:48] paying the price of this war. At the same time, the tariffs
[00:13:51] he imposed greatly affected the economic
[00:13:55] lives of ordinary people, and for them, it was
[00:13:58] a vote of anger yesterday against these policies that are
[00:14:02] affecting their lives, that's why the Democrats won in
[00:14:05] strongholds that, I mean, no one expected them to win like
[00:14:09] that in Kansas, Texas. I mean, the margin they won by in Texas
[00:14:13] was something they haven't seen in years, and they didn't just win the Senate, they won the governor,
[00:14:16] and they won many, I mean, other races. I mean,
[00:14:20] it was an earthquake in the American political movement.
[00:14:22] Yes. Dr. Hanna, let me
[00:14:25] ask you, I mean, in light of, I mean, the moment
[00:14:29] of optimism and the process of success, have
[00:14:31] the Democrats understood the message that whoever deviates from the line, and we saw
[00:14:35] a day before the elections, the appearance of one of
[00:14:38] the, I mean, candidates who showed her betrayal
[00:14:41] of the party and went in another direction, have they understood
[00:14:45] the message that whoever deviates from the line,
[00:14:48] the war on Gaza, have they truly understood
[00:14:51] that whoever deviates from the will of the peoples
[00:14:55] loses? God willing, I mean, this
[00:14:59] is based on your observations and your knowledge of the street, but let me
[00:15:03] complete it. Because, as we saw when Harris lost
[00:15:06] the presidential elections last time, they did not admit that the main
[00:15:10] reason for their loss, or one of the main reasons, was the genocide that happened in
[00:15:13] Gaza. When the midterm primary
[00:15:19] at the beginning, they tried to say that some candidates who support
[00:15:23] the rights of the Palestinian people might win,
[00:15:26] but they would not be able to succeed in swing states. And let me
[00:15:30] clarify here that there are about 10 to 15 members who will be
[00:15:34] in the American Congress whose election campaign was mainly
[00:15:37] built, and the difference between them and the other candidate was
[00:15:41] the directions of their policies towards the genocide that happened in the Gaza
[00:15:44] Strip. So for these, almost every
[00:15:48] candidate and every difference in the election program was the difference in terms
[00:15:52] of their policy towards Palestine, and there will be 15 of them who
[00:15:56] won whose election program was this, and we are talking about a very
[00:15:59] big change, and yesterday's elections proved
[00:16:02] that several candidates will succeed in swing states if
[00:16:06] they are on the right path and if they support the right
[00:16:10] principles. So for the establishment or for the party leadership, there are no
[00:16:13] longer any reasons to, let's say, try to confront
[00:16:17] the voter. The voter proved yesterday that
[00:16:21] the policy of supporting Palestine is a very important issue, even
[00:16:25] when the Vice President comes out and says that a very large group of
[00:16:28] Republicans did not vote for Republicans, they voted
[00:16:31] for Democrats because of their relationship with Israel. I mean,
[00:16:34] more than that proof, I don't know how they want it. So I
[00:16:38] am sure that there will be a very big change in the Democratic
[00:16:41] Party's policy, and more importantly, we will start to see presidential
[00:16:45] candidates now. I mean, in a little while, we will start hearing about presidential
[00:16:49] candidates for the 2028
[00:16:51] elections, and we will see that the votes will be in the Democratic
[00:16:54] Party and that there will be bidding in the Democratic Party
[00:16:58] on who will support the Palestinian people more, not the other way around this time.
[00:17:02] Uh-huh. Okay. Dr., the Palestinian
[00:17:05] and Arab communities and other
[00:17:08] communities, how much of an influential role did they play in these
[00:17:11] midterm elections, as we saw them, and this
[00:17:15] reflection that happened
[00:17:17] in them? I mean, let's say this year's
[00:17:21] elections motivated the community incredibly. So we are seeing the
[00:17:25] participation that exists, a participation that is
[00:17:28] unprecedented. We are seeing a group
[00:17:30] of people who were volunteers and went to work on Abdel Rahman's
[00:17:34] campaign from several states, they left their jobs, a very large group,
[00:17:38] especially young people, and they went and volunteered for the last two or three weeks in this
[00:17:41] campaign. The numbers that the community is putting in money for this
[00:17:45] election campaign are unprecedented numbers, and we are talking,
[00:17:49] I mean, about there being a very, very big activity to a degree
[00:17:52] that we never, I mean, as an activist like me, I have always dreamed of reaching
[00:17:56] this stage, but I never expected to reach it, but the degree we
[00:17:59] have reached is very, very high, and today with the success that happened,
[00:18:03] this should be an even greater incentive to continue with this
[00:18:06] matter. And in my opinion, for the community or
[00:18:10] for the supporters of the Palestinian people here, let me reiterate that
[00:18:14] the number of supporters is much larger than the members of the community, and they are playing a very
[00:18:17] big role, I mean, together as one team,
[00:18:21] that, I mean, let's say today's
[00:18:24] historic and excellent day that happened yesterday must be the beginning
[00:18:28] of the presidential elections, which will lead to a fundamental
[00:18:31] change in foreign policy. Doctor, through
[00:18:34] your political work and you mentioned more than 30 years,
[00:18:38] how will the results of these elections affect the foreign policy
[00:18:41] of the Trump administration related to the Middle
[00:18:44] East? We will definitely see some
[00:18:48] change, it might not be very fundamental, but we will definitely see some
[00:18:51] change. I mean, also, today, the Vice President issued
[00:18:55] a statement almost distancing himself from President Trump's policies,
[00:18:59] and almost said that these things, I mean, regarding the war, regarding the relationship
[00:19:03] with Israel, regarding the inflation that happened, which caused the party
[00:19:06] to lose. Of course, for the Vice President and for
[00:19:10] other Republicans, they started looking at the 2028
[00:19:13] elections, so for them, it became about how they can change these
[00:19:18] the next elections. They will put a lot of pressure on President
[00:19:22] Trump, so we might see changes, I won't say very
[00:19:25] fundamental, but we will definitely see some changes. The work
[00:19:30] Congress, how will it have
[00:19:34] the relationship with the administration and its reflection on its foreign policy?
[00:19:37] Because Trump said I will veto if there are no, I mean,
[00:19:42] doesn't like. I mean,
[00:19:46] but at the same time, now it's like, he has to, as you say, reach
[00:19:49] a compromise with them, he won't be able to get everything he wants
[00:19:53] through, especially when it comes to matters like budget matters, like
[00:19:56] the budget. Before the budget is finalized, they will have to reach
[00:19:59] a compromise, especially since the Democrats now have,
[00:20:03] I mean, the Senate and the House of Representatives,
[00:20:06] so there will be many things that will change. At the same time,
[00:20:10] today, the committees in both chambers will go to the Democrats,
[00:20:13] so members of both chambers will be able to hold ministers
[00:20:17] accountable, hold policies accountable, and ask questions that they couldn't
[00:20:20] ask before, which will greatly affect what, I mean,
[00:20:24] principles we are adopting. So, for example, regarding settlements, if there is
[00:20:27] a hearing or accountability
[00:20:30] issue, there will be a lot of debate and discussion,
[00:20:34] and it will affect, in one way or another, the President's policy on this issue.
[00:20:37] And several other matters, so there will be pressure, there will be a
[00:20:41] council, I mean, it will certainly put pressure on him. At the same time,
[00:20:46] Republicans who will be encouraged and will speak out. And this
[00:20:50] issue, in more matters, I expect we will start to see a change regarding
[00:20:53] Republican representatives, because
[00:20:57] issue is an electoral
[00:21:00] the Zionist lobby alone is no longer
[00:21:03] enough, because there are people who are being held accountable and they have started to understand that this game
[00:21:07] exists. I understand from your words, Dr. Hanna,
[00:21:09] that the issue of a military adventure in partnership with
[00:21:13] Israel might be somewhat avoided at this stage, in
[00:21:17] light of attempts to pressure for it.
[00:21:20] Saving Netanyahu
[00:21:23] matter. I mean, if we were to talk, let's say,
[00:21:27] logically, or in the understandable talk that
[00:21:30] usually happens, you are 100% right. It is clear
[00:21:34] today that the people have sent a very strong message that this adventure
[00:21:37] is rejected. It is clear that major leaders in the Republican Party
[00:21:41] are distancing themselves from this issue and are raising this issue.
[00:21:45] But with President Trump, we expected, I mean, all
[00:21:48] of his, let's say, all of his activities and all
[00:21:52] of his initiatives are surprising, and many of them are not necessarily
[00:21:55] logical, they could be a
[00:21:57] counter-reaction.
[00:22:00] So, although I don't expect it to happen that way, with President Trump,
[00:22:03] it is very difficult to predict what the next step he will take will be.
[00:22:32] viewers, we will move to our guest,
[00:22:35] Professor As'ad Ghanem, Professor of Political Science at
[00:22:38] Haifa University, who
[00:22:41] joins us via Zoom from
[00:22:44] Haifa to talk about the process and
[00:22:48] what is happening in the process of assigning and the consultations
[00:22:51] that are taking place and the demands for investigation
[00:22:55] with
[00:23:00] the two lists, the Joint
[00:23:11] and our dear viewers, and then we will return to
[00:23:15] the discussion in light of a complex
[00:23:18] political scene in
[00:23:21] Israel. Official consultations began with Israeli President
[00:23:24] Isaac Herzog in preparation for assigning one of the Knesset
[00:23:28] members to form the next Israeli government,
[00:23:31] provided that the consultations continue for
[00:23:34] two days, and Herzog listens to
[00:23:38] the recommendations of the parliamentary blocs according to an order
[00:23:41] that starts with the smallest parties in representation, up to
[00:23:44] the largest parties in an attempt to determine
[00:23:48] the candidate who received a number of recommendations to form
[00:23:52] the government. These consultations come in light
[00:23:55] of a complex parliamentary map in which
[00:23:58] neither of the two competing camps
[00:24:01] was able to achieve the required majority to form
[00:24:05] the government, which makes the recommendations a
[00:24:08] preliminary test of the political power balance.
[00:24:11] Israeli political estimates
[00:24:14] indicate that the leader of the Yesh Atid party,
[00:24:18] Gadi Eisenkot, is the candidate to receive the first mandate,
[00:24:21] after four parties from the anti-Netanyahu
[00:24:24] camp announced their intention
[00:24:28] to recommend him, which guarantees him
[00:24:32] recommendations compared to 46
[00:24:36] expected recommendations for Prime Minister Benjamin
[00:24:39] Netanyahu from the Likud, Shas,
[00:24:42] Religious Zionism, and Otzma
[00:24:45] Yehudit parties. However, attention is turning specifically
[00:24:48] to three parties that have not yet
[00:24:52] decided their position: United Torah Judaism,
[00:24:55] the Joint List, and the United Arab List. While
[00:24:59] Netanyahu is exerting intense pressure on United Torah
[00:25:02] Judaism to get its recommendation, expectations are
[00:25:06] leaning towards the possibility of the two Arab parties
[00:25:09] recommending Eisenkot, which could give him a clear advantage
[00:25:13] over Netanyahu. Despite Eisenkot's advantage in
[00:25:17] the recommendation battle, to forming
[00:25:20] the government is still fraught with obstacles due to
[00:25:24] the political contradictions within the anti-Netanyahu
[00:25:28] camp and the refusal of some of its components,
[00:25:31] foremost among them Avigdor Lieberman, to form
[00:25:34] a government that relies on the support of Arab parties. In
[00:25:38] contrast, Netanyahu faces a crisis no less
[00:25:41] complex, as his camp, which holds
[00:25:45] 53 seats, cannot
[00:25:48] guarantee the required
[00:25:50] parliamentary majority without attracting partners from outside
[00:25:53] his camp. In the face of this equation, the
[00:25:57] possibilities of forming a minority government, a broad unity
[00:26:00] government, or the continuation of the political crisis
[00:26:05] the table. Thus,
[00:26:08] this round of consultations may determine the identity of the candidate
[00:26:12] who will receive the first mandate, but it will not necessarily
[00:26:15] determine the identity of the next Israeli
[00:26:19] prime minister. Salam Mashreqi, Palestine TV, Tel
[00:26:23] Aviv. Thank you to our colleague Salam Mashreqi.
[00:26:26] I return to Professor As'ad Ghanem, I mean,
[00:26:29] the reality in light of the complications
[00:26:33] in the Israeli scene, how do you read it in
[00:26:36] terms of consultations and the mandate process?
[00:26:40] I mean, in reality, as
[00:26:43] our viewers know, there was a decisive
[00:26:47] process against Benjamin Netanyahu, despite
[00:26:50] the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu's bloc received
[00:26:53] a number of votes or seats
[00:26:56] more than was expected for it six
[00:27:00] months ago, or even before the start of the election campaign
[00:27:03] by days. But nevertheless,
[00:27:07] there is a clear decisiveness against Benjamin Netanyahu and his government, and that
[00:27:11] is due to internal and external reasons.
[00:27:14] In terms of the Israeli discussion,
[00:27:18] the fundamental problem that arises or
[00:27:21] contributes to the inability to form an alternative government
[00:27:25] to Benjamin Netanyahu and the insistence of the Israeli opposition
[00:27:28] on, I mean, not cooperating with the Arab parties,
[00:27:32] which could enable the opposition parties, led by
[00:27:36] Eisenkot, to form a government, and that is, of course, despite
[00:27:39] the fact that the Arab parties have initially announced
[00:27:42] that they will, of course, intend or intend
[00:27:45] to, I mean, or give the President
[00:27:48] a recommendation on. Eisenkot, but this
[00:27:52] of course will certainly contribute to facilitating the task
[00:27:55] of the head of state by giving the recommendation to form a government
[00:27:58] for Eisenkot. This of course does not mean at all that the government
[00:28:02] was formed. We were in such scenarios in
[00:28:05] 2011, 2021,
[00:28:08] 2022, and this crisis
[00:28:11] continued for, for several
[00:28:14] elections, until the matter was settled in
[00:28:17] the November 2022 elections.
[00:28:21] Therefore, what I mean is
[00:28:24] that perhaps a recommendation will be given to Eisenkot
[00:28:30] mean, in the presence of opposition from
[00:28:34] coalition or this bloc,
[00:28:36] outside that your government
[00:28:40] will be formed. My belief is that all
[00:28:43] possibilities are still open, even though
[00:28:46] logic and sound reason say that Eisenkot must
[00:28:50] go all the way in forming a government and that
[00:28:53] he should rely on the two parties
[00:28:57] and the two lists will not work to