PRESSTV — broadcast 20260806 223000 UTC 456 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] quietly a piece of broken concrete, waiting in the same place [00:00:04] where she last knew her son existed. Malcon's body was [00:00:08] never recovered. His story reminds us that the deepest wound [00:00:12] of war is not only the [00:00:14] of lives it takes, sometimes the greatest cruelty is leaving [00:00:17] mother with nowhere to hold her final [00:00:23] of goodbye. [00:00:27] of [00:00:38] of [00:00:47] of where [00:00:50] Iran and Oman are working toward new operational [00:00:54] framework for one [00:00:55] of the world's most critical maritime choke points. Iranian [00:00:59] officials argue that any future arrangement should reflect the sovereign [00:01:03] rights and security responsibilities [00:01:05] of the two coastal states. report suggests discussions include [00:01:09] new service fees for navigation. supporters [00:01:12] of the proposed framework argue that charges for navigation, [00:01:16] safety, vessel, traffic management, security escorts and environmental [00:01:20] protection could be [00:01:21] of structured in manner consistent with the existing [00:01:25] international practice. critics, however, content that any new [00:01:29] financial or regulatory regime could affect freedom of [00:01:33] navigation and global energy markets, so are we witnessing the [00:01:36] emergence of new marime order in the straight of removes? what [00:01:40] would it mean for regional [00:01:42] in security, the global economy and the balance of power in west Asia? that's what [00:01:46] we'll be discussing tonight with our [00:01:48] guests, [00:01:52] a [00:01:57] joining us from [00:01:59] of London. and Christopher [00:02:03] Horstell, author and politician joining us from [00:02:06] Berlin. [00:02:10] Gentlemen, thank you both for being with us. Um, I'm going to start [00:02:15] of with Mr. Horstelle our guest in Berlin. Thank you so much for being with [00:02:18] us. Um, let's begin with your broad takeaway on the [00:02:22] situation [00:02:22] of the straight of removes, the choices that the US has in order to [00:02:26] counter any agreements that Iran and Oman um... [00:02:30] may be reaching very soon and why and how would such an [00:02:33] agreement be strategically important at this time and [00:02:37] place? we see that the [00:02:40] US now [00:02:42] of militarily quite crippled, they are unable in [00:02:45] fact to strongly attack Iran, it [00:02:49] doesn't help them, Iran is much [00:02:52] of stronger in its responses [00:02:54] of and that [00:02:55] in sets all these little or bigger countries in [00:02:59] the re'. somehow free, they have nothing to [00:03:03] fear from the US anymore, that [00:03:05] of tiger has become a paper tiger, but [00:03:08] it is murderous paper tiger which can kill [00:03:12] people, so this is the the situation we have, and the [00:03:15] talks between oman and Iran are [00:03:19] traditionally very good, there's a [00:03:21] in good relationship, these countries are open and honest [00:03:25] towards each other, and this is what we see as [00:03:28] a result, and this... serious and reliable [00:03:32] policy of Iran towards all the [00:03:34] of neighbors is now [00:03:36] of paying out, that is very, very clear, so I think that it's [00:03:40] a good chance that this works, unless in [00:03:43] fact Trump issues military [00:03:47] strong threats against the uh Roman [00:03:50] government to stop them from concluding [00:03:54] these deals, but that will set up lot of trouble, and [00:03:57] I heard just this afternoon, from a direct [00:04:01] quotation [00:04:02] a from the Pakistani field marshall Assim Munier, the strong [00:04:06] man of Pakistan so to say, that he told Donald [00:04:10] Trump personally, quote, the time of [00:04:13] escalation is over, unquote, so that is the [00:04:17] situation, and the Saudis through Muhammad [00:04:20] bin have [00:04:22] of made it amply clear to the US, that should they start [00:04:25] any aggression against Iran, they have [00:04:29] no... allowance okay from the saudi side to [00:04:33] use their airspace and that's vital, there's a huge [00:04:37] detour they would have to fly, so in fact we have a [00:04:40] situation here where something [00:04:43] you know slowly, slowly, slowly something comes closer towards [00:04:47] a solution, and a good deal right now [00:04:50] with oman and Iran will give face [00:04:54] saving device to us president Trump who is [00:04:57] beleged because he's losing. the big majority [00:05:01] of the American support for his crazy policies, so that is [00:05:05] a good chance that this in fact can appease a [00:05:09] little bit the [00:05:10] of American idea, [00:05:11] you know that... not only Iran should be there, so that's [00:05:15] it, but there will be, that is very clear from all inside [00:05:19] talks, no and zero compromise from the Iranian [00:05:23] side beyond the MOU. The [00:05:26] Americans now have to fulfill the Mou, [00:05:30] and after that Iran talks, before that there will be zero [00:05:34] talks, no matter what Trump is lying about his fantastic [00:05:37] contacts to hisb [00:05:39] and to Iran and whatsoever, we have a... very [00:05:43] serious project and that is the situation that [00:05:46] Iran is not attacking Israel for its [00:05:50] violations the mou against Lebanon, which [00:05:53] is increasingly looking like Gaza, and my [00:05:57] Gaza brothers are calling me by the day, they are [00:06:01] starving, and please, so to say, my Iranian friends, that's right, [00:06:05] Mr. Israel for that, because you [00:06:08] are the only power in the world, the only country with guts. [00:06:12] with the good population was behind its government and [00:06:16] punish this country for its multiple crimes, exactly, my brother [00:06:20] Abu Safia is dying an Israeli [00:06:23] prison, we are going to come back to that, I'm so sorry to [00:06:27] interrupt, but we are going to come back to that topic, let me also bring in to [00:06:31] this conversation, Masud Shajara, chairman the Islamic Human [00:06:35] Rights Commission joining us from the British Capital, London, thank you so much Mr. Shajara [00:06:39] for being with us, um, so many things uh... to talk [00:06:43] about, let's talk about the situation on February 27, [00:06:47] 2026, the straight off moves was open to [00:06:50] commercial shipping, um, even different ships from different [00:06:54] countries entered the straight uh and into the Persian [00:06:57] Gulf, also at the same time Donald Trump had [00:07:01] so-called allies in the Persian Gulf countries. Right [00:07:04] now, after more than five months, the situation has changed [00:07:08] dramatically, the straight of for moves is in full control the... [00:07:12] Iranian armed forces and those allies, according to Mr. [00:07:15] Horstoll's analysis, are turning [00:07:19] back from what they have been doing throughout the [00:07:22] years. Absolutely, I think we need [00:07:25] to sort of separate illusions [00:07:28] that Trump is trying to hold up [00:07:32] and create, and the reality, the reality is [00:07:36] that United States has lost this war, the [00:07:40] reality is that Trump. stop, he doesn't know [00:07:44] what to do, he knows that he needs to give [00:07:47] concession, he knows that the game has totally [00:07:51] changed, not just regarding the sort [00:07:55] the governments in [00:07:58] the Persian gulf, but the [00:08:01] you know whole spectral [00:08:04] the situation has changed, Iran is a very [00:08:08] powerful position because United State... [00:08:12] all his mind and support of Israel and [00:08:16] indeed even some the local [00:08:19] governments and and indeed Europeans [00:08:22] providing logistical support [00:08:26] is failed, it actually lost the war and there is no [00:08:30] way that that could change [00:08:33] and and what Trump is trying to do by [00:08:37] creating illusions and by sort of one [00:08:40] minute saying that there is deal. and the next minute is saying that [00:08:44] is going to wipe Iran the [00:08:48] map the world [00:08:49] and and destroy it totally is trying to [00:08:53] manage this defeat, this [00:08:56] you know total defeat and is not manageable, it's getting [00:08:59] worse and now regional [00:09:03] governments all realizing that they cannot no [00:09:07] longer continue supporting united [00:09:10] state and and indeed they [00:09:14] want resolution, they want end to this [00:09:17] conflict, they want to go back to some level of [00:09:21] normality, and they realized that that [00:09:24] normality could only be [00:09:27] realistic and could be only achieved by giving [00:09:31] Iran what is rightful [00:09:35] sort of position is in the region and [00:09:38] in in regarding the hormones so... so [00:09:42] this is a reality that the longer Trump [00:09:46] tries to ignore and try to um sort of [00:09:50] undermine it by creating illusions, the worse you [00:09:54] will become, and the best thing all [00:09:57] around for everyone, including United States and [00:10:00] Europeans and the regional government is [00:10:04] to see solution to see the implementation of [00:10:08] memorandum of understanding, to see solution of... [00:10:13] ending the aggression of zionist [00:10:16] state against his neighbor, against [00:10:18] humanity, and [00:10:21] you know, so [00:10:22] the world could actually start [00:10:24] putting the... lives back together and this [00:10:28] crisis to begin to be [00:10:31] resolved. that's right. mr. [00:10:34] horstoll, under the strato for moves deal currently being [00:10:38] discussed [00:10:39] uh the st that i'm going to tell you are based on [00:10:42] routers. um, Iran is seeking transit fees [00:10:45] of 5% to 7% the cargo price of [00:10:49] vessels passing through the strategic waterray the strict of remoz. [00:10:53] Omani officials are pushing or lower fees of around [00:10:56] 3%. Washington is claiming that it wants zero [00:11:00] transit fees. I don't know where [00:11:03] that come from comes from. A fully laiden VLCC, which is very [00:11:07] large crude carrier carries around 150 [00:11:11] million dollars worth of oil, um, which a 5% [00:11:15] fee on it that the very least would equal 5.7 million [00:11:19] dollars per ship, and when considering the average cargo and [00:11:22] volume of ships passing through the straight each. it would net [00:11:26] Iran roughly about 45 billion dollars in [00:11:30] tolls yearly when we are speaking about that, this number [00:11:33] is uh is big enough [00:11:37] that it has two different ramifications, one [00:11:41] it gives iran an economic leverage over different countries that are [00:11:45] coming in through the straight of her mouse and at the same time a [00:11:49] political one, your thoughts, [00:11:53] well to make that very clear. Iran has charged already [00:11:57] 1 million dollar per ship, [00:12:00] roughly like like this, and that was [00:12:03] easily taken up by the economy. We are now a [00:12:07] situation where the global economy is suffering to such [00:12:11] huge extent that we don't know how much [00:12:15] the catastrophe in the end will be globally. So this [00:12:19] is the situation under these circumstances and [00:12:22] also seeing. the [00:12:25] sacrifices of 30,000 dead [00:12:29] Iranians, hundreds of hospitals and schools [00:12:33] intentionally destroyed by the US, [00:12:36] I do think there is a growing understanding that [00:12:40] Iran is good and capable to maintain [00:12:44] a very healthy order for a [00:12:48] long period over hormous, and that is what the global [00:12:51] economy, what all the peoples around the world want. "they [00:12:55] finally want peace, they want order, they want new [00:12:59] security for their shipments, and I think they are ready [00:13:03] to pay a higher price than before. I'm no [00:13:06] expert on these things, I can only do my [00:13:10] political judgment, and the political judgment very clearly [00:13:14] says that Iran's reputation globally has [00:13:18] grown so much, while the US have gone [00:13:22] gone down like a missile in the..." the direction so [00:13:26] to say, so this is the situation, so for that reason I [00:13:29] think the world is ready for Iran to [00:13:33] levy a justified price, and that's it, if [00:13:37] that is now five to 7%, from my side, I [00:13:41] can politically agree, um, but as I say, [00:13:45] I'm not an expert, and I think couldn't be more, mr. [00:13:49] horstoll, would Europeans back an Iranian plan over [00:13:52] the straight of moves, or would they... uh, in your opinion, is it [00:13:56] likely that they will go with Donald Trump [00:13:59] here? yeah, that last part of your [00:14:02] question is so very interesting, so for one thing, the [00:14:06] Europeans are, [00:14:08] you know, toothless vessels, they are not free to [00:14:12] do or to say anything, as far as the [00:14:16] global deep states rule over Europe, [00:14:20] Germany as a non-sovereign state has a special situation, we [00:14:24] are ruled by the... American deep st, that's [00:14:26] a special story globally, so this kind of rule [00:14:30] makes sure that nothing that is good for Iran will [00:14:34] come from Europe, no matter what Mr. Macron [00:14:38] from time to time is telling, he is just making up stories, we [00:14:41] know that he talked about peace with Russia and special understanding [00:14:45] and he kept zero promises and is a cheater, so this [00:14:49] is the situation unfortunately, so I'm not expecting [00:14:53] anything good from the Europe. but yes, Iran [00:14:57] is independent, Iran is strong enough to impose its own [00:15:01] rules and make the Europeans [00:15:04] understand that you know, if they try anything [00:15:08] funny sending warships to the Gulf [00:15:12] of Persia or even into the Red Sea, they have just withdrawn, the [00:15:16] Germans for example, they understand they are in no [00:15:19] way capable to put a counterweight against [00:15:23] Iran, so [00:15:24] I think... simply obey, that's all. Thank you so much. [00:15:28] Mr. Shajar, how would in your opinion a formalized [00:15:32] Iran and Oman maritime arrangements the [00:15:36] strage of horm? affect the global economy at this [00:15:39] point? well, i [00:15:42] think the global economy needs recovery, [00:15:46] the global economy needs stability [00:15:49] and an agreement and [00:15:53] process will exactly give it what it needs [00:15:57] and this is why everyone is waiting for it to [00:16:00] happen, but i think it will be wrong to [00:16:04] look at the thing only from economical. [00:16:07] perspective, economy is important, is important to [00:16:11] Iran, is important to Oman, is important to the [00:16:15] regional nations, and indeed important [00:16:18] globally, but I think what is really [00:16:22] has happened, what significant the [00:16:25] victory of Iran, victory for Iran out of [00:16:29] this war is that Iran cannot no longer [00:16:33] be treated as it was treated before, [00:16:37] facing sanction, facing demonization, [00:16:40] facing sort of every [00:16:44] possible pressure, economically, [00:16:47] politically, and being demonized, [00:16:50] you know, iranophobia have become a n, [00:16:53] and but after this war, after this victory, this [00:16:57] cannot happen any longer, Iran will [00:17:00] not allow it to happen, it's not just about how much you are going [00:17:04] to charge for the services. allowing [00:17:08] every ship to go through is about the fact [00:17:11] that [00:17:12] you know Iran has got a pain card that [00:17:16] is very powerful, it affects the global [00:17:19] economy and not everybody knows that the gene [00:17:23] cannot be put back into the bottle, and this is [00:17:27] exactly where we are, and unless there is recognition of [00:17:31] this by Trump and [00:17:34] and then we will have... [00:17:38] more time for him to sort [00:17:41] of be forced to recognize the [00:17:44] reality of geographical reality, political [00:17:48] reality and military [00:17:51] reality the region and recognize that [00:17:55] you know he cannot lie his way out of this, and looking [00:17:59] at the situation of Europe, Europeans have [00:18:02] proven that they are irrelevant, they have been irrelevant [00:18:06] for very long. long time, JCPO, [00:18:10] you know, they showed that they are incompetent and [00:18:13] irrelevant, they can neither resolve or bring any [00:18:16] solution or indeed have any [00:18:20] say in in the [00:18:22] in the in those processes and right now they [00:18:26] have, they have made it very clear by their [00:18:29] action that they are not plays in this state, [00:18:33] and Trump has shown that he wants to [00:18:37] be... the main man of a player, but he had no card to [00:18:40] play, he is indeed stuck in the [00:18:43] mod and he has to recognize the [00:18:47] reality. the longer it takes is going to be more [00:18:50] painful for everyone, but at the end of [00:18:54] it, the game is not going to change, the reality is that [00:18:58] Iran is a very powerful position after this [00:19:02] victory and indeed the future and [00:19:06] the future of region. belongs to it and it is [00:19:09] irrelevant the agreement with oman or [00:19:13] not, there would be agreement, the relationship, as my [00:19:17] colleague said between Iran and Roman is is [00:19:20] exceptional, and they will come with [00:19:23] the resolution, but the problem is that is not [00:19:27] resolution with Oman, is is recognition of [00:19:30] Trump, recognizing that he [00:19:33] hasn't got any other option and he... has [00:19:37] to give concession to Iran, not [00:19:41] just over the charges, but over the [00:19:45] right to be to pay [00:19:47] equal right within the international [00:19:51] community. Mr. Shajar regarding the Europeans [00:19:55] as it is known fact, of course you can tell me [00:19:59] from wrong here that the Europeans are still having issues when it comes [00:20:03] to the Ukraine policy and that is against what has [00:20:07] happened. against Donald Trump and the world is changing, it is said time [00:20:11] and again that new global order is emerging. um, isn't [00:20:15] a time for the Europeans to back something that Donald Trump is [00:20:19] not backing, and that can be Iran's authority over the straight of [00:20:23] removes? [00:20:26] well, so sorry Mr. that question was for Mr. Shadow, [00:20:30] I'm going to come back to you, [00:20:34] indeed, I think, I think this racky nation. is long over [00:20:38] due, but as is been said, as [00:20:42] is been sort of proven over and over [00:20:45] and that Europeans are [00:20:49] failing. "they're incompetent to make right [00:20:52] decisions for themselves, they have failed to do so in [00:20:56] Ukraine, they have failed to do so over [00:21:00] sort of economical agreements with [00:21:04] United States and the failing here [00:21:07] regarding Iran, and [00:21:10] and the reality is, the reality is [00:21:14] that Europe is going to pay heavy price for [00:21:18] this, and they know it." but they are scared to stand [00:21:22] up against the bully, and the bully has [00:21:26] still demands and total respect. I [00:21:30] mean, look, [00:21:31] you know, it's been proven over and over, do you [00:21:35] remember when all these Europeans went to the [00:21:38] oval overal room at [00:21:42] the white house, and they were all [00:21:46] set together like bunch of kids being... [00:21:50] sort of bullied by Trump, that is a reality that is [00:21:53] happening within the international community and they [00:21:57] are too scared to stand up against the bully [00:22:01] and they will suffer for it, they are irrelevant right now and [00:22:05] they will suffer long term sort [00:22:09] economic and political consequences of [00:22:12] this, but i don't know how they [00:22:16] will be awaken to do the right thing. own [00:22:20] citizens in Europe, be in Britain, [00:22:24] France, Germany, Spain or Italy and [00:22:27] elsewhere are demanding that their governments make the [00:22:31] right disposition and stand on the right side of history, but the [00:22:35] still they are failing. Mr. [00:22:38] Horstole, as the last question, how much longer would [00:22:42] you say the US obstructionism in the region can go [00:22:45] on? Well, I [00:22:49] think... Unfortunately it can go on quite [00:22:53] long and there's the issue of [00:22:56] tactical nukes which may be used if [00:23:00] there's enough craziness in the white house and enough [00:23:04] pressure of [00:23:05] you now roach satanist zionist [00:23:08] billionaires who are financing trump so this is the [00:23:12] situation it's a very very complex and [00:23:15] corrupt situation so it's not very sure what will... [00:23:20] happen and anything is imaginable, we understanding [00:23:24] that the global deep state wants a prolonged conflict [00:23:28] around, because they want huge global crisis [00:23:31] and [00:23:32] then a wonderful huge world war to [00:23:36] kill lot of people, this is the secret planning they [00:23:39] have, so trump is just the little eront [00:23:43] boy, the shine boy these guys and he's he [00:23:47] is becoming with his family incredibly rich. through [00:23:50] the deals which are enabled by this deep state just [00:23:54] recently with Saudi Arabia, so this is a situation which is which [00:23:58] is unclear, so we will see in the next days how [00:24:02] Trump will decide, we understand what is the [00:24:05] downside for the good side for the world, that there will [00:24:08] peace and stability maintained by Iran, now the [00:24:12] downside is Trump will certainly and [00:24:15] crazily lose the midterm election, and that [00:24:19] can lead... to his you know impeachment [00:24:23] and that can lead to his imprisonment even, so this [00:24:27] is a Trump's situation, it's a very dangerous situation, and we [00:24:31] understand it is very close to the situation [00:24:34] of his dear unloved [00:24:38] ally Netanyahu who is facing prison if he loses [00:24:42] his job in the next election, and we have a time now in the [00:24:46] end of October there's the election in Israel and... beginning [00:24:50] of November, just one week apart, there two elections in Israel and the [00:24:54] US, and if something goes wrong, these two [00:24:57] crazys decide that they want to have another attack with [00:25:01] Iran and stop the elections, it's [00:25:05] very unclear. Thank you so much, both of you for [00:25:09] your time tonight, those were Masud Shajar, chairman the Islamic Human Rights [00:25:13] Commission, join us from the British capital, London and Christopher Horstell [00:25:17] author and politician join us from the city of Berlin. Thank you so [00:25:20] much for your time tonight, and that brings us to the end of this edition [00:25:24] of our spotlight program. Thank you for being with us and [00:25:26] bye-bye. [00:25:41] The bombs may have passed, but don't mistake that for peace. [00:25:45] This week on the mediast stream we uncover the dangerous illusion behind [00:25:49] Washington's. diplomacy as Donald Trump talks negotiations with [00:25:53] Iran while reportedly preparing for even bigger military [00:25:56] strike. 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