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[00:00:00] reach deep inside Saudi Arabia. In September
[00:00:04] of 2019, its drone strike on the
[00:00:07] ABC and Kurais oil facilities exposed the vulnerability of Saudi Aramco
[00:00:11] despite billions of dollars worth of American-made air defense
[00:00:14] systems. Now, the resistance movement warns that any new
[00:00:18] attack on Yemen's infrastructure could bring even more strategic
[00:00:22] targets
[00:00:22] of into range, including the vital oil
[00:00:25] of facilities at Yanbu. Today, more than 70%
[00:00:29] of Saudi
[00:00:29] of oil. ports bypass the straight of Hormus through pipelines to Yanbu on
[00:00:33] the Red Sea, but from there they must still pass through the
[00:00:37] Bob Almandab
[00:00:38] of straight. If that route is closed, Saudi Arabia's
[00:00:41] alternative export corridor disappears. Ansarula has
[00:00:45] already shown it can disrupt one
[00:00:47] of the world's busiest maritime choke points. Since the outbreak
[00:00:51] of the Gaza War in 2023, it has launched attacks
[00:00:54] a in the Red Sea, declaring that it would
[00:00:56] of target vessels linked to
[00:00:58] in Israel in support
[00:00:59] of the Palestinian. "the Red Sea operations
[00:01:02] have forced major shipping companies to re-root around Southern
[00:01:06] in Africa, in increased
[00:01:07] in global transport costs and pushed Israel's southern port of
[00:01:10] ilot, the brink of collapse. If both the straight of
[00:01:14] Hormus and Bob Almandab were closed at the same time, nearly
[00:01:18] a quarter
[00:01:19] of the world's oil and gas supply, and almost one-third of global
[00:01:22] container traffic could be affected. Oil prices could sore
[00:01:26] toward
[00:01:28] of of $200 per barrel while Europe's energy security." would face severe
[00:01:31] pressure. For Ansarula, Yemen is not
[00:01:34] merely another battlefield,
[00:01:39] of it is a a strategic front with the power to reshape the global economy. The axis
[00:01:42] of
[00:01:43] a resistance still
[00:01:44] of holds powerful strategic cards in reserve. Cards that
[00:01:48] once played could leave even America unable to respond
[00:01:52] despite all its military
[00:01:53] might.
[00:02:14] in of
[00:02:17] of
[00:02:33] Hello and welcome, this is unscripted with me kabi. His name is Khalam
[00:02:37] Mustafa, leutenant Gulam Mustafa from Pakistan, actually
[00:02:40] retired three star
[00:02:42] of general
[00:02:42] of the Pakistan's army and the former commander of a strategic forces
[00:02:45] command. Amongst his credentials, he is geopolitical and defense
[00:02:48] analyst. He has youtube channel called global lens officially where he
[00:02:52] of discusses politics with the focus on Asia and west
[00:02:56] Asia, and
[00:02:57] of he has said about Iran that has done something which was... imaginable before
[00:03:00] February 28, this
[00:03:02] of of of year, Iran dismantled U.S. Israel aura of power and in the
[00:03:06] process what it
[00:03:07] did to the
[00:03:07] of US. of Welcome to the programant Gulam
[00:03:11] Mustafa. Thank you for having me. Well,
[00:03:15] let's, I guess begin with what I just said at
[00:03:17] of the
[00:03:17] of end
[00:03:18] of the intro, and that is the fact that you said about
[00:03:22] Iran that has done something which is unimaginable that you want
[00:03:25] dismantled or of power. What do you mean
[00:03:29] exactly by? when it comes obviously to
[00:03:31] of the
[00:03:31] of situation we have at hand which is the illegal aggression
[00:03:34] of the us against
[00:03:36] of
[00:03:37] a Iran. I'm very clear begin with
[00:03:41] before 28th
[00:03:43] in February this
[00:03:47] in of year US was considered to be all mighty and all powerful at least in military
[00:03:50] of sense also in certain way economic sense
[00:03:54] and the people listen when you was talk people
[00:03:58] listen. Europe listen, at
[00:04:01] this time two things very strange, number
[00:04:05] in one, Europe stop listening to Trump, and
[00:04:09] number two, they plan that they had to begin with,
[00:04:13] I mean they keep changing gold post, Israel
[00:04:16] and America to run
[00:04:20] down Iran to an extent that Iran would submit
[00:04:23] totally, that they have failed,
[00:04:27] and that is where I feel the... the or of power that
[00:04:31] existed just before 28 february that is no more
[00:04:34] there now and
[00:04:39] of frankly of that's the reason I think Trump and Natin Yahu
[00:04:43] don't have enough ramp strategy they don't know how to
[00:04:46] get out of
[00:04:47] of it now or to continue if they wish to
[00:04:52] of continue where to go from here keep listening to Mr. Trump I just heard
[00:04:56] that he claimed that he can obliterate Iran
[00:05:00] program, I think you would have done that if you it was possible for
[00:05:04] him. Well, let me jump in here real quick, because
[00:05:07] I, I, when you when you say what you have said about the fact that
[00:05:11] Iran has... broken the myth so to speak that the invisibility, I
[00:05:15] guess, the image the US has been broken based on the way that Devon has
[00:05:18] retaliated against this illegal aggression. Many say, well that's just a
[00:05:22] bunch of lies that the US is the strongest military in the
[00:05:26] world, we know based on uh this latest round um
[00:05:30] that Iran has actually exceeded um any outlooks
[00:05:34] there were in terms the pinpint accuracy that it came in terms the bases, the
[00:05:38] US bases uh that were targeted, in particular actually Kuwait and
[00:05:42] Jordan. "um, if this is so, and combined with
[00:05:46] the fact that US is running low its munitions, then
[00:05:49] why is it that the US is actually continuing with this
[00:05:53] aggression, as we are saying, actually last night was the most
[00:05:57] number of areas that the US targeted in the Islamic
[00:06:00] Republic? I
[00:06:02] know, the reason, I'm
[00:06:06] frankly, I'm as surprised
[00:06:09] and a way shocked. the way the whole thing is
[00:06:13] going on, despite having the strongest air force in the world,
[00:06:17] strongest navy in the world and all the armada and all
[00:06:21] the weapon system that it had and the kind of
[00:06:24] defense system that it had created the the whole
[00:06:28] architecture starting from UAE to Qatar to Kuwait to
[00:06:31] Bahrain to Saudi Arabia back by Iran, back by
[00:06:35] Jordan and then of course three four layers of
[00:06:39] defenses that were provided to Israel, all they have been.
[00:06:42] penetrated, now they have actually nothing to go back to, they
[00:06:46] don't know how to go to the public and tell them, this is what they have
[00:06:50] achieved, because everybody is asking Trump and his
[00:06:53] team, what is it that they wanted, what is it that they wanted to
[00:06:57] do, what is it that they wanted to achieve,
[00:07:01] and I like to repeat Mr. Clinton's words, when he was
[00:07:05] commenting on this whole thing, he said that United States has
[00:07:08] overreached and under performed, the difference is so...
[00:07:14] the reach and the performance, the difference is so large, you just
[00:07:17] don't know how to cover it up, and that's the only way, I think they
[00:07:21] can, but they think is that if they continue doing what they have
[00:07:25] been doing previously, they will achieve the results, I mean this
[00:07:29] is some one the most, I
[00:07:32] mean poolish ideas that one can ever have,
[00:07:36] because you tried to do what you
[00:07:40] wanted to do and you couldn't achieve that. trying to you know build up on
[00:07:44] that again, mean repeating a blunder after
[00:07:47] blunder, that's is something that speaks for
[00:07:51] probably the total lack of strategic understanding the whole
[00:07:55] issue at in the US as also in
[00:07:58] Israel, well obviously the fact that you had the
[00:08:02] mou come about and that's thanks a large to
[00:08:06] a large degree to pakistan who did a terrific job in terms of being
[00:08:10] the mediator encouraging this two sides to get together, but one the
[00:08:14] driving forces was the fact that uh the US uh did see that
[00:08:18] militarily it was not going to achieve what it wanted in terms of different
[00:08:21] objectives uh that it had. At this point we're looking at an
[00:08:25] mou that is not on void, at least for the time
[00:08:28] being, there are indications that Iran is going to rely
[00:08:32] if it is going to reach decision to go back to
[00:08:35] negotiations that it will use Mou as the um the
[00:08:39] guide to be the um, I guess... go to
[00:08:43] document in terms the negotiation process, were that to
[00:08:46] happen? what is your outlook regarding that? do
[00:08:49] you think that there will be return back to negotiations
[00:08:52] and for the mou to be the basis for that to move forward
[00:08:55] in in terms the large scheme of things, which is the
[00:08:59] big, guess piece
[00:09:03] resolve that needs to be achieved between the
[00:09:05] two. i think that document
[00:09:09] is very good basis to begin to... to
[00:09:12] renegotiate if the whole thing has to be done and I also
[00:09:16] understand that Iran has approached Pakistan in this
[00:09:20] regard that they can have 10 days pause or so, maybe I'm
[00:09:24] wrong, but this is what was reported in our media,
[00:09:28] but if that is so,
[00:09:29] I think Iran is playing wisely, it's time to talk and it's the only
[00:09:33] way they can get out of it, I mean Iran
[00:09:37] is already suffering, but the only way
[00:09:41] America and is... can get out of
[00:09:43] it is the way they talk it out, they talk it out on the
[00:09:46] table, and I mean certain
[00:09:50] things that Iran needs to do, Iran is like state of
[00:09:54] hormos that already was decided, and that is where
[00:09:57] I think the problem restarted, if it was decided why the hell the
[00:10:01] Americans had to try and sneak through the Omani
[00:10:05] lane so to call, so therefore I think this a good basis
[00:10:09] and the if the talks began.
[00:10:12] Again, Pakistan is already, as you said, done
[00:10:16] a great job, Pakistan is again ready to do it, because the
[00:10:20] peace in the region is what we need, and we don't need
[00:10:24] any... more blood shed going around, we don't need
[00:10:27] any more people to suffer, because if this
[00:10:30] continues, Iran is only one option to
[00:10:34] strike at the American basis and the accuracy with struck
[00:10:38] Jordan's basis, that should be an eye opener for Trump
[00:10:42] and have both, I think they will come around to
[00:10:46] talk. Okay, so you mentioned the fact that Ivan is doing the right
[00:10:49] thing, is retaliating, hitting American bases in the west Asia
[00:10:53] region, but one the things. that um is somewhat
[00:10:57] creating a friction um for lack of better
[00:11:00] word between perhaps and my question
[00:11:04] to you is this between Pakistan and Iran would be the fact that uh you
[00:11:08] have Saudi Arabia that from what we understand was targeted by Iran
[00:11:12] in terms of three areas that were hit now uh we know that
[00:11:16] Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have defense pact that was signed uh which uh
[00:11:19] basically puts each responsible for
[00:11:23] defending the other uh
[00:11:25] do you think that there is a worry there that Pakistan needs to make
[00:11:28] decision or puts Pakistan a a a
[00:11:32] situation where it may be compromised in terms of being that mediator
[00:11:36] or no, maybe it's more of a perhaps motivation for Pakistan
[00:11:40] to uh maybe up its uh efforts
[00:11:44] to bring about the two
[00:11:46] sides. I mean I'm sure you
[00:11:49] know that Pakistan has done a lot in this
[00:11:53] regard as well. trying to keep Saudi Arabia calm,
[00:11:57] Qatar calm and Kuwait and Bahrain calm.
[00:12:01] UAE of course is different story all together, but it would
[00:12:05] in Pakistan's interest frankly speaking that
[00:12:09] the war doesn't spread anymore and to be actually
[00:12:13] playing in the hands of all these people who are planned all this
[00:12:16] operation. If there were to be a war between the
[00:12:20] Muslim countries, if Saudi Arabia were to go to war against
[00:12:24] Iran. itself that would be a
[00:12:27] tragic happening because that's something that
[00:12:31] is what diction wanted, mean crisent
[00:12:35] of you know one sect against the christiant the other
[00:12:38] sect, mean that may be so, but that is how they think, but
[00:12:42] when it comes to Islam itself, i think
[00:12:46] that is where it is very very tragic that if this were to be happen,
[00:12:50] therefore Pakistan has motivation and
[00:12:54] pakistan is... trying and hopefully Saudi Arabia has played very well
[00:12:58] so far and they have been very calm and very calculated in their
[00:13:02] response and I'm sure they will continue to do so
[00:13:06] and I hope they do so because just now I got a
[00:13:10] news that Trump has tried to win away Saudi
[00:13:13] Arabia from everybody else by offering them the nuclear
[00:13:16] deal so therefore I think in
[00:13:20] the interest of our brothers in Iran as also in Pakistan and
[00:13:24] elsewhere. that the talks begin and we reach a
[00:13:28] conclusion which leads to peace. okay, it's interesting that you mentioned that,
[00:13:32] because that really caught many off guard and by surprise and I'm sure perhaps in some
[00:13:36] ways it did also catch you by surprise when you heard
[00:13:39] that the US administration directed by Trump obviously has granted
[00:13:43] Saudi Arabia uh the ability to enrich uranium and this is without
[00:13:47] from what I understand enacting international safeguards which obviously
[00:13:51] is intended to prevent nuclear weapons. I mean what type of message is that sending? It sounds
[00:13:55] to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, that that's a message actually going to the
[00:13:58] Israeli regime, which is very critical the fact that
[00:14:02] this should not happen in the first place, because obviously they don't want the
[00:14:06] balance of power to be tilted any shape or form, since even though they
[00:14:10] don't declare it, but they have nuclear weapons and maybe a sense to, as you said, pull
[00:14:14] Saudi Arabia away from Iran and send message to Iran at the same
[00:14:18] time to see, if you come to our side, we'll give you the chance
[00:14:21] to develop your nuclear civilian nuclear program which. has
[00:14:25] stated it's civilian
[00:14:26] anyways, i think that's the
[00:14:30] purpose, the second purpose probably could be that because china is already in the
[00:14:34] game, already offered this deal to Saudi
[00:14:37] Arabia, in was lot of money, so
[00:14:41] therefore probably Trump and his administration thought that if they
[00:14:45] can win this game, they will keep China out of
[00:14:48] it, obviously message directly to Israel
[00:14:52] that they are now ready to accept, Saudi Arabia as
[00:14:56] equal strategic partner so to speak,
[00:15:00] but I'm sure it's not going to go through, because it
[00:15:02] has yet to go to Congress and then when I said that there is
[00:15:06] China
[00:15:06] in the game, China won't letter stride that
[00:15:09] easily. taking a look at the relationship
[00:15:12] that Pakistan has with the US, I mean um,
[00:15:16] it's it's very interesting to see the way that it has juggled all the sides
[00:15:20] involved here, on the one side you have Iran, on
[00:15:23] the other side you have the US. I'm I'm curious as
[00:15:27] to why there is such praise coming from the
[00:15:30] Pakistani side when it comes to the US uh for example from uh Prime
[00:15:34] Minister Shabbaz Sharif who has even said that uh
[00:15:39] "you know the US president should uh actually get the Nobel Peace
[00:15:43] Prize. We had very critical statement that
[00:15:46] came from uh the defense minister uh
[00:15:50] Khawaj Assiv who said that the US used Pakistan then threw
[00:15:54] away threw it away like toilet paper after realigning with the
[00:15:58] US uh after the
[00:16:00] 1999
[00:16:02] uh um September 11th attacks and then the following relationship that ensued
[00:16:06] between the two countries." I mean that's
[00:16:07] a pretty strongly worded statement that came from
[00:16:11] the Hawajah, so what
[00:16:14] is the deal there in terms the outlook that Pakistan has in its relationship with the
[00:16:18] US? practically
[00:16:22] US is super power and everybody's neighbor, Pakistan
[00:16:26] can't afford to have bad relations with US,
[00:16:30] and at the same time Pakistan doesn't need to go to the
[00:16:33] extent the kind of relationship that we developed in.
[00:16:37] 'ing September 11, so therefore I think there is
[00:16:41] somewhere in between that Pakistan is trying to balance it out, but
[00:16:45] otherwise Pakistan stated direction is very clear and Pakistan understands things very
[00:16:49] clearly, at least if I were to say I would never trust United States of
[00:16:53] America on anything about everything, interesting
[00:16:57] that you say that, so I I I couldn't help,
[00:17:00] but I'm sure you caught me talking about your YouTube channel,
[00:17:04] one the videos had the title ' Trump, angel
[00:17:08] or curse, I don't
[00:17:09] know if you recall that, where it said Pakistan's big gain in form of
[00:17:13] a question mark, uh, Trump's secret game, the real winner the Iran
[00:17:16] deal, Pakistan or America. I'm curious as to what you mean by that. In
[00:17:20] particular, we're looking a time now where we don't know whether there's going to be deal or
[00:17:24] not, whether they're going to go back to negotiations or not, but based on the way you put
[00:17:28] it, um, it it didn't really quite, it wasn't quite clear
[00:17:31] as to what uh would be gain for either,
[00:17:35] especially when you use the word curse. angel or curse in the way that you
[00:17:39] described Donald Trump? Frankly,
[00:17:43] what I meant was, like I said just
[00:17:46] now, I would never ever trust United States,
[00:17:50] much less Mr. Trump, because it's not
[00:17:54] just once, there is a history of betray, every
[00:17:57] time Pakistan needed support, American just with dou
[00:18:01] and instead they went to support others who actually were working against
[00:18:05] Pakistan.
[00:18:07] "therefore
[00:18:10] my view is very clear and I have never even shide away from
[00:18:14] stating it that Pakistan must never ever trust
[00:18:17] America and Trump, therefore
[00:18:21] having good relationship with Trump is not the
[00:18:25] angel, he is he is not the angel, he
[00:18:28] actually is going to be cursed for Pakistan, if Pakistan work
[00:18:31] to fall for what is trying to do, and I'm sure
[00:18:35] our people understand." far better than I do because
[00:18:39] the things that are happening elsewhere, indeed. Well,
[00:18:43] um, the U.S. is very hard to trust obviously, and who better
[00:18:47] to uh stand up for that than the Islamic Republic, which has been
[00:18:50] burnt so many times when it comes to negotiations specifically, but
[00:18:54] one the things that was very interesting was the precondition that the US president
[00:18:58] Donald Trump set out, this is going back about a month ago when uh the mou was
[00:19:02] going to be signed, where you had uh the US president say
[00:19:06] that uh Abraham of course needs to be one the
[00:19:09] preconditions uh membership of of of some countries uh
[00:19:13] which pointed to Saudi Arabia and Qatar as countries that should
[00:19:16] immediately sign on. We also had Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt and
[00:19:20] Jordan who were courted on this. Pakistan rejected that
[00:19:24] out right. Um, what do you think of this pritiontion
[00:19:28] that the US president set out at that time?
[00:19:30] Do you think that he's going to pursue that? And what are your thoughts about the fact that Pakistan actually
[00:19:34] rejected that? Pakistan had.
[00:19:37] because this by itself is something
[00:19:41] that smells not smells actually very clear that what
[00:19:45] is he trying to do in the region and pakistan just
[00:19:49] can't afford similarly i'm sure turkey and other
[00:19:52] countries ab died way
[00:19:56] back
[00:19:57] i have no doubts about it and i don't think so other than just trying
[00:20:00] to throw kind of spanner in the game trump had trump
[00:20:04] is also very clear that abraham accord is dead
[00:20:08] and buried, the notion of ground
[00:20:12] incursion has been thrown about again, we knew that in the beginning the
[00:20:16] first phase the war that that was something that was
[00:20:18] under the microscope in terms of not only the news, but
[00:20:22] also in terms of what was coming out, the veter coming out the US, we're looking at the southern
[00:20:26] part of Iran at this point that have been pinpointed in terms the
[00:20:30] targets uh with the some reports indicating that there is still that
[00:20:33] possibility of a ground incursion, again one scenario uh be going...
[00:20:37] through a ground incursion based on your military
[00:20:41] background, i think it should
[00:20:44] be - bigger fall than what they have already
[00:20:47] done is america. is not ready to go
[00:20:51] into this kind of putting boots on ground kind of operation right
[00:20:55] now, going against island that again would be
[00:20:59] a blunder, because what is going to gain i'm sure is not going to
[00:21:03] let that whole infrastructure stay as it
[00:21:06] is, there are ways of putting it out of action
[00:21:10] and Iran has also indicated that
[00:21:14] if that were to be a step taken by
[00:21:17] America and its allies, Iran has other options to respond
[00:21:21] to it and that is going to strike on
[00:21:24] UAE, can America for doing, can America
[00:21:28] have UAE being stuck that way, I don't think so is going to
[00:21:31] happen and also feel that they don't understand Iran's
[00:21:35] geography as much as they should,
[00:21:38] because the thing is like Iraq, no, Iran is different
[00:21:42] geography, and Iranian is different people and they are
[00:21:45] prepared and they, I think they are prepared and they should
[00:21:48] be, their place I would be prepared for it and the way they responded
[00:21:52] so far, I'm sure they are ready for it, and that way the kind
[00:21:56] of guities, the kind of body bags which will
[00:22:00] go back to United States, Trump and his administration can't afford
[00:22:04] that, yeah, it's hard to understand the type of thinking or
[00:22:08] lack of it when it comes to the military moves that the US is making,
[00:22:12] but not that we had enough problems existing in
[00:22:15] this region, we now have another phase the war which I think
[00:22:19] the... has been opened on and that is the country of
[00:22:23] Yemen, we're looking at the Ansera movement that actually announced a naval
[00:22:27] plade specifically against Saudi Arabia, are we looking
[00:22:31] at things heating up there, are we looking at return the war
[00:22:35] there with the US participation behind Saudi Arabia in terms of
[00:22:39] targeting the Ana movements uh or
[00:22:41] not? I
[00:22:44] think if I were to offer one
[00:22:48] advice to Saudi Arabia would be to stay. out of
[00:22:50] it, they already in yeman in one form or the
[00:22:54] other, and they have tried and they couldn't achieve
[00:22:58] the objective that they wanted to. on the other hand,
[00:23:02] if you bring yeman again, yeman is already a state of
[00:23:05] war, if the things heat up in yemen, you will have babal mander
[00:23:09] closed up, and that is something that Europe and Israel can't
[00:23:12] afford, that will actually disturb the entire splice chain of
[00:23:16] everybody, most probably, most likely and most...
[00:23:21] "the most affected would be China and the people in the far
[00:23:24] east, so I think it will be wise on Saudi
[00:23:28] Arabia's part and also I would advise my brothers in iran to
[00:23:31] keep hooutis and control because that is something
[00:23:35] that will think heat up things and that is something that could
[00:23:38] ignite what they have been trying to do, like I said earlier,
[00:23:42] Muslim country is going against each other, each other's throat,
[00:23:46] Muslims money being used." against each other,
[00:23:50] that I think is something that
[00:23:54] must be avoided or cost. one the
[00:23:58] entities that we have not mentioned in this conversation is the Israeli
[00:24:01] regime. now we know that in the past days there
[00:24:05] has been accumulation these refueling jets that the US
[00:24:09] has sent to the occupied territories. many
[00:24:13] are concluding that that may be a sign that the US
[00:24:17] is preparing obviously for '
[00:24:20] enhancing and advancing a larger military
[00:24:23] operation than what it is executing right now uh we know
[00:24:27] that uh there is then the possibility of Iran
[00:24:31] targeting the occupied territories which is my question to you
[00:24:34] how big a possibility is that because at this point
[00:24:38] Israel has the Israel regime has stayed out the war game, it
[00:24:42] has uh not made many statements except that if we are attacked we're going
[00:24:46] to we're going to retaliate do you think that uh that is now
[00:24:50] closer to reality given the fact that you're seeing these refueling jets
[00:24:53] and fighter jets perhaps addition uh being i
[00:24:57] guess compiled there in the occupied territories
[00:25:01] there is a possibility can't be ruled
[00:25:03] out the reports that are coming in is
[00:25:07] of american increasing their air presence in the
[00:25:11] region sending in their refuling aircraft and the
[00:25:14] other surveillance aircraft in the region so far they
[00:25:18] haven't come to come in the
[00:25:22] battlefield so to say, they're keeping them in the background somewhere,
[00:25:26] Jordan and Israel, but if they were to be, if they were to be
[00:25:30] uping the ante, I don't what for what
[00:25:33] purpose, unless it is only aimed at
[00:25:36] creating that kind of situation where the Muslim
[00:25:40] countries go against each other, if that is the
[00:25:43] objective, and I have been saying from day
[00:25:46] one that Saudi Arabia, Qatar.
[00:25:50] way, they must ask Americans to leave, because so long as Americans are
[00:25:54] in the region, there is never going to be peace in the region,
[00:25:58] and frankly speaking, maybe I am exceeding
[00:26:02] my... limits, but I don't find any reason for Israel to exist
[00:26:06] other than providing a reason for United
[00:26:09] States to create the kind of problem
[00:26:13] that
[00:26:13] it is already created in the region. No, you obviously are expressing your thoughts
[00:26:17] and your opinion and that's what matters here, that is why we're having this discussion that we're
[00:26:20] having. And my final question to you is this. We're taking a look
[00:26:24] at the fact that whether there's right now
[00:26:28] this discussion and conversation about whether there's going to be return
[00:26:31] to the... MOU or not, whether it's going to be return to the
[00:26:34] negotiations, but the uh the ones who
[00:26:38] are opposed to that are saying Iran needs to
[00:26:41] advance its missile targets
[00:26:44] more so that the US takes a such beating
[00:26:48] that it will then be exhausted and realized that it needs to go
[00:26:52] back to the negotiating table. Do you think that we have reached that point right
[00:26:55] now, or should Iran continue targeting the US bases in
[00:26:59] the west Asian countries so that the US will then realize? Enough is enough, we need to
[00:27:03] go back to the negotiations. I think the
[00:27:07] time is already right for the
[00:27:11] negotiations to restart, going any
[00:27:14] further is going to damage
[00:27:18] both countries, Iran as well as
[00:27:20] our other brothers countries, so Iran I think has done
[00:27:24] a wise step, taken a wise step and offering to restart the
[00:27:28] negotiations and I hope Trump listen.
[00:27:33] and I'm sure he will listen because he needs an off ramp as badly
[00:27:36] as anybody else, therefore he also
[00:27:40] needs for to say something to his own people,
[00:27:44] this is what he has achieved in the restarting this whole game that
[00:27:48] he did, and that is something, I don't know what
[00:27:52] is that going to be that point and
[00:27:55] that claim that he would like to make to his
[00:27:58] people, but at some point in time, there
[00:28:02] has to be given take and therefore i think
[00:28:06] usations have to begin and as soon as
[00:28:10] possible going any further of course Iran
[00:28:14] can hit the targets and destroy some more aircraft and some
[00:28:17] more inflict more casualties, but Iran
[00:28:21] is not going to gain that much as it is already gained. I
[00:28:25] mean there is point that wish Iran must also understand
[00:28:29] that it's time to negotiate.
[00:28:32] and time to get things settled and going beyond
[00:28:36] that point is going to be useless for everybody, it's going to pointless and go be only
[00:28:40] disastrous. okay, very well, thank you very much, we do appreciate you
[00:28:44] appearing on our show gulam mustafa, leutenant gulam mustafa who's retired, thank
[00:28:48] you so much for joining us, thank you for having me, it was a pleasure
[00:28:52] to have you, god bless, that does it with this edition the program, you heard the words
[00:28:56] there
[00:28:56] of leutenan mustafa retired general, but obviously his outlook in terms the military background that he
[00:29:00] has is worth the... put that he gave uh some the points that he
[00:29:04] made is is definitely worth going back to do log to our website for repeat the
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[00:29:14] goodbye.
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