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[00:02:26] of Hello, I'm Chris Williamson and this is...
[00:02:31] of declassified, where we focus on the international struggle to liberate
[00:02:33] of
[00:02:34] in Palestine in and expose Israel's efforts to manipulate the political class and call
[00:02:38] manipulate the political class and corporate media. In today's
[00:02:42] show, we'll be scrutinizing the way's anti-terrorism laws
[00:02:46] to harass and intimidate
[00:02:47] of journalists and pro-palestine political activists. But before I
[00:02:51] talk
[00:02:51] in about this abuse with our
[00:02:52] of resident experts and our invited guests, this report
[00:02:56] of explains how Muslims in particular have been targeted and highlights.
[00:03:00] two specific examples of this
[00:03:01] crackdow: the British government's abuse
[00:03:05] of terrorism laws continues with the recent police detention of
[00:03:09] trainy lawyer and podcaster Amar
[00:03:12] of Khasmi, an active supporter
[00:03:14] of the Palestinian cause and the access of resistance. On the
[00:03:18] 25th of
[00:03:19] me August, on the way
[00:03:19] هذا to his Honeymoon, Kasmi was stopped for several hours at London
[00:03:23] Heathro airport by British counter-terrorism police who
[00:03:27] questioned him about Palestine, Iran, in
[00:03:30] Lebanon. Kasme had appeared on Palestine declassified
[00:03:34] on many occasions and he recently traveled to Iran to cover the
[00:03:37] funeral of Ayatollah Khaminai, Iran's mattered
[00:03:41] leader. His detention is part of a broader picture of
[00:03:44] political activists and
[00:03:46] of journalists, particularly Muslims being harassed in Britain on
[00:03:50] behalf
[00:03:50] of the Zinist regime. Palestine declassified resident
[00:03:54] expert professor David Miller was also detained in questioned at
[00:03:58] London Heathrow airport. year
[00:04:00] of after traveling back from Lebanon. These detentions, which
[00:04:04] affect thousands of people every year, occur on the schedule
[00:04:08] 7
[00:04:08] of the Terrorism Act 2000. Under this power,
[00:04:12] people can be stopped, detained and subjected to highly
[00:04:16] intrusive questions, which
[00:04:18] of typically of cover political and
[00:04:20] of or religious beliefs and activities. Anyone can be stopped
[00:04:24] under this legislation without any suspicion of
[00:04:27] wrongdoing. The aim of a schedule seventh. is
[00:04:30] supposedly to determine whether someone is involved in
[00:04:33] commissioning, preparing or instigating acts of
[00:04:38] me terrorism, but in practice it's used against pro- palestine political activists
[00:04:41] and journalists to intimidate and spy on
[00:04:45] them. in 2014, sample taken by students at
[00:04:48] Cambridge University reveal that 88% of those
[00:04:52] stopped on the schedule 7 a particular airport were
[00:04:56] Muslim,
[00:04:56] of but these
[00:04:57] of intimidatory and spying tactics... go
[00:05:00] of far beyond the Muslim community. In 2013, the late
[00:05:04] David Miranda was detained at Heathro airport for
[00:05:07] carrying files related to information obtained by the
[00:05:11] whistleblower Edwards. Snowden and in April
[00:05:14] 2023, Ernest Murray, who works for the Independent
[00:05:18] Publishing House, Lafabr, was detained at St. Pancras
[00:05:21] International Station while on his way to a London Bookfair.
[00:05:25] La fabric produces books like the holocaust industry by Norman
[00:05:29] Finkelsten. Cozmi's recent detention on the schedule
[00:05:33] seven highlights the need for continued vigilance and
[00:05:36] campaigning against Britain's terrorism laws, which are
[00:05:39] increasingly being used to intimidate. and spy on
[00:05:43] pro-palestine activists inside the
[00:05:45] country. Alamar Kasmi is
[00:05:49] joining me today to discuss what happened to him and to consider the wider
[00:05:53] ramifications these intimidatory tactics. Amar is a political
[00:05:57] and legal commentator and the host the atrition podcast. I'm
[00:06:01] also joined as usual by resident experts and the UK's leading scholarly critic of
[00:06:05] Israel David Miller. David also
[00:06:07] is a co-director the Lobby in Watch Dog Spinwatch and a senior research
[00:06:11] fellow at the center for Islam and global affairs Istanbul Zahm
[00:06:14] University. Welcome to the show. Well, Almar, I mean tell
[00:06:18] us what happened to to you and and the sorts of questions that you were
[00:06:21] asked. Well, this all happened the day after my wedding.
[00:06:25] I was on the way with my wife to my honeymoon. I
[00:06:29] was at London Heathrow airport, and as I got to the
[00:06:33] gate to get onto the airplane, my boarding pass scanned
[00:06:37] red.
[00:06:38] I was taken to the side and uh, there were three plane
[00:06:41] clothed.
[00:07:13] so i think they thought that i was going to be very flustered, very shocked, very
[00:07:16] intimidated, but i wasn't at all, i was pretty composed, i have to
[00:07:20] say throughout the whole process, they then took me to room where they
[00:07:24] took my fingerprints, my cheek swabs, they took a 360 degree
[00:07:28] photograph of my face uh, what the purpose
[00:07:32] is really of of taking all of this stuff i don't know
[00:07:35] because um they've stopped me under this power for which they don't need any
[00:07:39] suspicion of wrong doing so as far as i'm concerned there's no suspicion that I
[00:07:43] have engaged any wrong-doing, so they have no suspicion that I'm engaged
[00:07:46] anything unlawful uh, so why they need all of this
[00:07:50] information uh is beyond me, I don't think it has anything to do
[00:07:53] with stopping terrorism, it's all about uh trying to harass me,
[00:07:57] intimidate me, and of course to intimidate other people and to gather
[00:08:00] intelligence uh on people and to keep them under surveillance a very
[00:08:04] dictatorial, authoritarian way. Uh, in
[00:08:08] terms the actual questions, I mean they didn't interestingly ask.
[00:08:12] me about any specific organization, they didn't ask me about Hamas,
[00:08:16] Hisbullah, the IRGC, they spoke
[00:08:20] in very coded ways about
[00:08:24] um
[00:08:24] men of violence and groups that some people would consider to
[00:08:28] be terrorists, but they didn't actually ask anything
[00:08:32] specific about those groups, I think it was obvious which groups they were
[00:08:36] alluding to, I was also asked about my recent trip to the
[00:08:39] Islamic Republic of Iran, of course I attended uh Iran earlier this year
[00:08:43] to uh cover the uh funeral
[00:08:47] of um Iran's martered leader ayatullah Khaminity and this was
[00:08:51] not something secret or covert I was very public about the fact that I was
[00:08:55] in Iran I was publishing videos and reports from Iran on the
[00:08:59] ground um I was also asked about
[00:09:02] my trip to Lebanon last year where I covered the funeral
[00:09:06] of Sayed Hasan Nasrullah and I should also just
[00:09:10] clarify this point that for both these trips I
[00:09:14] arranged my own visas, my own travel, I
[00:09:18] didn't, I was not the the lucky of
[00:09:21] any organization or
[00:09:23] government, um, I was free to
[00:09:27] travel and to do and say whatever I wanted to do and say,
[00:09:31] so no one was controlling me on either these trips,
[00:09:34] um, but basically they were trying to infer that or trying
[00:09:37] imply sorry that you know you were there and you were doing something
[00:09:41] defarious.
[00:09:42] probably on behalf
[00:09:43] of Hispalah or the IRGC, which is of course completely ludicrous
[00:09:47] and there's no evidence at all for that. um, we also spoke a
[00:09:51] little bit about the zionist entity
[00:09:54] and zionism and zionist
[00:09:57] infiltration in Britain, and I made that point actually
[00:10:00] that really the threat here is Zionism,
[00:10:04] there's no threat to Britain from the Islamic Republic of Iran
[00:10:08] or Hizbullah, Hamas, all this stuff is completely preposterous, but
[00:10:12] really in terms the questions I was being asked, I really failed to see what any
[00:10:16] of it had to do with supposed terrorism, as far as I'm
[00:10:20] concerned, this was attempt to interrogate me and my
[00:10:24] world view. uh a deeply authoritarian way, a
[00:10:28] way that is reminiscent of some the worst dictatorships that the
[00:10:32] the planet has ever seen. um, and this is
[00:10:35] how so-called, you know,
[00:10:38] democratic Britain treats its citizens. well,
[00:10:42] David, I mean, you were also stopped, weren't you were last February on your way back
[00:10:46] from from Lebanon, what was your experience similar
[00:10:50] to what ar went through? it was kind of
[00:10:53] similar, I mean, I think... the
[00:10:56] uh cops in his case seemed a little bit better briefed than my
[00:11:00] case, because what happened to me was that they my case, because what happened to me was that
[00:11:03] they clearly didn't have any idea who i was, what i had
[00:11:07] said, and had been bounced into stopping me by the
[00:11:11] fact that the zionist clutched their purls and managed to get the
[00:11:14] telegraph and the mail to report
[00:11:17] that this very bad man was coming back from beirot, so i was stopped for four
[00:11:20] and for four and a half hours and uh they didn't really know what to ask me.
[00:11:25] and uh they got progressively more and more embarrassing in
[00:11:28] their cross-examination of me, so I think the comparison with that armar
[00:11:32] cases is instructive because it kind of looked like at least one
[00:11:35] the the uh cops in his case was a little bit better
[00:11:39] briefed on matters and was able to be a little bit more sophisticated, I mean the
[00:11:43] questions in my uh case involved things like saying well
[00:11:47] what about all this terrorism that's happening uh in the UK
[00:11:51] do your friends and colleagues support that and I said what terrorism and they said
[00:11:55] well the southport attack and i said well not even the police think
[00:11:59] that that was a terrorist attack and his colleague sort of shame facedly
[00:12:03] said uh yeah that's correct and so it was just an
[00:12:06] embarrassment for them but um you know i think you you can go into
[00:12:10] these um uh interviews and uh be scared that they're going
[00:12:14] to somehow interrogate you or bring things out that you don't want to
[00:12:17] say but actually um my experience and it seems to some extent
[00:12:21] ours is that the people who are doing the interrogations are not really
[00:12:25] up to the they're trying to uh they're trying
[00:12:29] to uh uh pin you pin you
[00:12:31] with, I know George Galloway was saying buse he
[00:12:35] was also stopped wasn't he last last year and he's now
[00:12:39] in self-imposed exile is a consequence of that but he was saying that they
[00:12:43] said to him you're not under arrest but you're not free to leave and you must
[00:12:47] answer our questions you can't reserve your right to remain
[00:12:51] silent was was was that your experience as well well yeah the
[00:12:55] script, the standard script that they read to you and they actually give you a copy the script
[00:12:59] as well, that's the law that you yes, are not being arrested, you're
[00:13:02] being detained and you you can't leave and you have to
[00:13:06] answer the questions, but of course you can also ask for legal advice,
[00:13:10] you can have your lawyer present or you can speak to your lawyer in advance, which
[00:13:14] is what happened with me, and they will advise you what to say and what not to say,
[00:13:18] but you actually have to answer the questions, the other thing of course is
[00:13:21] that the answers you give in the questions can't be used in evidence again.
[00:13:25] so it's more or less about trying to gather uh
[00:13:29] insights for then further evidence
[00:13:31] to be gathered that of course is the
[00:13:32] real reason why people are stopped because they want to get their devices they want to
[00:13:36] understand yes yes who they know who they message and
[00:13:39] whatsapp and we've seen a case just recently where someone's
[00:13:43] being prosecuted for supporting a prescribed
[00:13:47] organization I think Hamas and instead
[00:13:50] of uh actually having any evidence against them what they've done is they've taken
[00:13:54] a speech that's persons made where they refer to the palestinian resistance
[00:13:58] etc. and they then tried to say what they really
[00:14:01] meant was Hamas, because when they looked
[00:14:05] whatsapp messages,
[00:14:06] there was a time when once upon a time they said something about Hamas,
[00:14:10] so it's an attempt to try and fit you up and to do also to find out who
[00:14:14] else you're in touch with, yeah, crazy, crazy,
[00:14:18] well, I mean, you're a law obiding citizen, and I mean, and you've previously
[00:14:21] worked in in parliament, so why do you think the police? to stop
[00:14:25] you? well, i think we have to ask what exactly
[00:14:29] is all of this about. of course they don't believe that i'm involved in
[00:14:33] terrorism. um, as i mentioned earlier, there was no
[00:14:36] suspicion that i have been engaged in terrorism, and they don't need
[00:14:40] suspicion in order to use this power. that's sort the point about it.
[00:14:44] this is about harassment. uh, if they, of course, if they believed
[00:14:48] that i was actually involved in some sort of terrorist
[00:14:51] financing, plotting, coordination. they would have
[00:14:55] arrested me and they would have charged me with something because you know i'm
[00:14:59] sure if they
[00:15:00] really thought i was a terrorist they'd be taking that very seriously they wouldn't have just stopped at an airport and then
[00:15:03] let me go on my way afterwards so the point of
[00:15:07] this principally in my view
[00:15:09] is about harassment uh law abiding citizen
[00:15:13] here law abiding citizen here in briton i previously
[00:15:17] worked in your i obtained a security clearance i obtained a
[00:15:20] security clearance in order to be able to do that so in order to be able to
[00:15:24] do that so at some point Britain
[00:15:28] thought that I was not a security threat and now they've decided that I
[00:15:31] am um for some reason obviously we know what the reason
[00:15:35] is it's because I support Palace. and I support the axis of
[00:15:39] resistance uh, that doesn't mean that I'm uh
[00:15:43] somehow trying to undermine British interest, actually I think that Britain's interests
[00:15:47] will be better served by being allies the Islamic Republic of Iran,
[00:15:51] the Axis of resistance of Palestine and of cutting diplomatic relations
[00:15:54] and all relations with the Zionist entity. um, that's
[00:15:58] my personal point of view. um, and
[00:16:02] look, the point these stops of course, also addition to harassment
[00:16:06] is about trying to... pain intelligence from people,
[00:16:10] because when you're in that position, they have really
[00:16:14] extreme powers that they don't have in other circumstances, so let's
[00:16:18] say you get arrested and the
[00:16:21] police take you to a police station, they don't have an
[00:16:24] automatic right to demand the pin codes to
[00:16:28] your phone, to your laptop, to devices that you may have on you,
[00:16:32] they need a warrant from a judge in order to do that, and
[00:16:35] they
[00:16:36] in order to get that warrant. they of course need to have some suspicion of wrong doing that maybe
[00:16:40] there's data on this device that will assist a police investigation.
[00:16:44] under schedule 7 they don't need any of that um suspicion,
[00:16:48] they can demand right there and then that you give
[00:16:52] them the pass code to your phone, they can uh then enter
[00:16:56] your phone, build a picture of your your
[00:16:59] personal network. this is all about intelligence gathering and
[00:17:03] community surveillance and i think it's also about.
[00:17:07] a signal that we as the british
[00:17:11] intelligence services, we as SO15 the Metropolitan
[00:17:15] police, we're keeping an eye on you, and this is about
[00:17:18] trying to deter any future work
[00:17:22] or future activism that someone might
[00:17:25] want to be engaging, and that's not going to work, it's not going to
[00:17:29] work against me, certainly if they think that by stopping
[00:17:33] at an airport and by questioning me and looking through...
[00:17:37] my you know devices that I'm going to get scared and
[00:17:41] intimidated by them and I'm going to therefore stop speaking out, I'm
[00:17:45] going to stop publishing, I'm going to stop appearing uh on programs like
[00:17:49] Palestine declassified, I'm going to abandon the Palestinian
[00:17:52] cause, then they have another thing coming, and I think
[00:17:56] that that should be everyone's attitude who stopped under
[00:17:59] this power, and thankfully it is, I mean of course professor David Miller, the
[00:18:03] resident expert the show is also stopped under this power and he's still going strong and I very
[00:18:07] much commend you, David for that, um,
[00:18:10] and we have to understand
[00:18:14] that uh, this power is not
[00:18:17] about genuinely trying to interrogate or to stop
[00:18:21] terrorism, it's about harassment, and once you understand that, I
[00:18:25] think that that gives lot of confidence. Well, David, I
[00:18:28] mean it seems these laws
[00:18:29] are are being weaponized by the Zies to to shut down support for
[00:18:33] for Palestine in the axis of resistance, I mean, is that fair?
[00:18:37] assessment do you think? well you say weaponize and of
[00:18:41] course the zionists are trying to weaponize and they're trying to
[00:18:44] push the police uh to arrest people who shouldn't
[00:18:48] otherwise be arrested. many these cases now we've seen
[00:18:52] have been the result of pressure put
[00:18:56] on the police or the home office or MI5
[00:18:59] by zionist groups you identified science groups uks
[00:19:03] for Israel campaign against anti-semitism etc. in my case of course the
[00:19:08] is taking a private prosecution against me because the police declined
[00:19:11] to prosecute me because I hadn't broken any laws, so that's how that
[00:19:15] works, but when you say weaponize, it's not correct in another sense. the
[00:19:19] legislation
[00:19:19] is itself a weaponization, it's not that they are abusing the
[00:19:23] legislation, the legislation actually makes it illegal to
[00:19:27] voice support for an organization in the sense of
[00:19:31] analyzing the activities of say hamas or palestinan islamic
[00:19:34] jihad or hezballah and and seeing things with might be said to
[00:19:38] be sympathetic to those organizations, now they don't really
[00:19:42] believe that we're going to set up a Glasgow branch of
[00:19:45] Hezballah or the South London branch of Hamas, they don't believe
[00:19:49] that's going to happen at all, but that is the implication the legislation and legislation is
[00:19:53] drawn so widely that it can catch anyone who who says something
[00:19:57] ill advised or or or loose about about Hamas
[00:20:01] or or Pig or whatever, but and that even
[00:20:04] by itself in the terrorism act 2000. didn't work, so they had to
[00:20:08] actually uh make the offenses even broader, so it's not
[00:20:12] just about supporting a prescribed organization, it's using words which might be
[00:20:16] interpreted as supporting such an organization, so a real attempt to kind of run
[00:20:20] a dragnet through society which doesn't allow people to speak
[00:20:24] openly about uh matters of political
[00:20:26] violence. would it be a stretch then to to say
[00:20:30] that the legislation then has been weaponized on behalf
[00:20:34] the the zionist lobby? well... think that's
[00:20:38] unfair, but the
[00:20:39] but the legislation itself was put in place uh, in
[00:20:42] part by pressure from the zionist movement way back in
[00:20:46] the in the day, mean the original legislation you'll recall..." was
[00:20:50] the prevention of terrorism brackets temporary provisions act in
[00:20:53] 1974 and it had to be uh had to
[00:20:57] be formally agreed by parliament every single year as
[00:21:00] result it was temporary until 2000 when they made it
[00:21:04] permanent and of course the the way in which they made it permanent and started to
[00:21:07] prescribe other organizations was as as result of zionist uh
[00:21:11] movement
[00:21:12] uh lobbing that's why we started to have this ridiculous list of
[00:21:15] organizations nothing to do with with Britain because the original list was only Irish
[00:21:19] organization. and they've started to add on all these palestinian groups, which of
[00:21:23] course nobody
[00:21:24] is going to start a branch of of those organizations in this country,
[00:21:27] that's what the legislation kind of assumes, so it's extended and extended the
[00:21:31] legislation, so legislation itself has been put in place with the under
[00:21:35] pressure from the zionis and then the zionist wanted to go even further than that,
[00:21:39] yes right, yes indeed, well, well,
[00:21:42] I mean, you're you're training to be a lawyer, aren't you, do you think the British
[00:21:46] terrorism laws are are really designed to to stop terrorism?
[00:21:51] "I think objectively speaking, you could say that Britain's
[00:21:54] terrorism laws have some relation to trying to
[00:21:58] stop, so-called terrorism,
[00:22:01] because
[00:22:02] you know, obviously they've designated various groups that I think everyone
[00:22:06] would would agree on nefarious groups that shouldn't be being financed,
[00:22:09] shouldn't be being supported any way, shape or form, alqidha,
[00:22:13] ISIS, things like that, um, the
[00:22:17] problem is though that the'. definition of
[00:22:20] terrorism is basically now meaningless, at least from
[00:22:24] legal standpoint. the classic understanding was that
[00:22:27] terrorism is the use of violence by non-state
[00:22:31] actors in order to achieve political ends. but
[00:22:34] firstly, what is violence, right? so the idea of what violence
[00:22:38] is has been expanding, now we have you a non-violent direct
[00:22:42] action network here in Britain call palestine action being prescribed as a
[00:22:46] terrorist organization, we have people holding placards saying: that they
[00:22:50] oppose genocide, that they support palestin action being arrested,
[00:22:54] 80-year-old priests, uh, disabled
[00:22:58] people who are just uh protesting that being charged under the
[00:23:01] terrorism act, so uh, what is the meaning of violence,
[00:23:05] what is the meaning of terrorism, and um, even when
[00:23:09] it comes to the classic understanding of terrorism about state
[00:23:13] bodies, well they're now prescribing state bodies
[00:23:17] like the uh IRGC is of course part
[00:23:21] the Iranian state, but now that's been classed as a terrorist
[00:23:24] organization here in Britain. I mean, you kind of had that already with the prescription
[00:23:28] of Hamas's political wing and of Hizballah's political wing, Hamas of
[00:23:32] course being the elected government of Gaza, Hisbullah having two ministers
[00:23:36] in the Lebanese government, so in some ways you could say those are also
[00:23:40] sort of state actors, but with the prescription the IOGC, it's
[00:23:44] even clearer, so um, this
[00:23:48] is basically about. zionist wishes, this is
[00:23:52] zionist lobbying, zionist pressure, zionist
[00:23:54] infiltration, which is really damaging
[00:23:58] britain, britain britain's interests, indeed it's standing
[00:24:01] across the world, people just look at britain now, i think what's going on
[00:24:05] there, is absolutely absurd, they're calling everyone and everything a
[00:24:09] terrorist, so what they ought
[00:24:11] to be doing, and made this point in my interview is britain should be, like if we're going to
[00:24:15] have should be, like if we're going to have this terrorism apparatus and it's going to mean
[00:24:19] i anything, Britain should be present, they should be
[00:24:23] confiscating their funds, shutting them down, and of course Britain
[00:24:26] should be detaining and charging uh anyone going from
[00:24:30] Britain to fight in the Israel occupation forces, and we know that
[00:24:34] thousands of British Jews have done that, those people need to be tracked,
[00:24:38] followed, imprisoned uh, and they should be facing
[00:24:42] very large sentences uh in prison, and I think also Britain and
[00:24:46] the British intelligence services ought to be far more concerned about
[00:24:50] flag terrorism coming from the mossad then they should about you
[00:24:54] ficticious Iranian, lebanese or palestinian
[00:24:56] terrorism uh, which
[00:24:59] you know there's really no evidence for and is not a threat to britain. well
[00:25:03] David, I mean we've discussed this
[00:25:05] on on previous shows, but this seems to be further circumstantial
[00:25:09] evidence that the British intelligence services and police have
[00:25:12] been penetrated essentially influenced by the
[00:25:16] zionist lobby, isn't it? well, it does look...
[00:25:20] like that
[00:25:20] and of course it looks like that going back some some considerable distance in history,
[00:25:24] but in only the recent past we've seen all sorts of
[00:25:28] nonsense spouted by especially by
[00:25:31] MI5 about the threats that in relation to
[00:25:35] Russia and to do in relation to Russia and to China as
[00:25:38] well, but in particular the threat from the alleged threat from
[00:25:42] Iran, and that's of course why they've prescribed the
[00:25:45] IRGC, it's supposed to be running agents and running operations
[00:25:49] in the... which of course manifestly isn't, but
[00:25:52] the the reason that they say this is not just because they are
[00:25:56] incompetent and ideological, it's also because they've been pressured by the
[00:26:00] mosad and given information by the mosad, were the ones who supplied the
[00:26:04] information about this new pro Iran terror group, which of course doesn't exist, which
[00:26:08] has been made up in order that they could prescribe the IRGC, in
[00:26:12] order they could pass millions of more public money to
[00:26:16] zionist lobby groups, which themselves have close connections with the maside, so yeah the whole thing
[00:26:20] is a scam uh, but the but we're not allowed to say that because
[00:26:23] apparently that would be antisemitic, no indeed, and of course amar as
[00:26:27] he was saying there, I mean they didn't think he was actually a terrorist and I think
[00:26:31] he he's confirmed, I think... 'you no, what you're saying that this is really
[00:26:35] about you, intimidation and and just fishing
[00:26:38] exercise, well of course it is, mean i mean i've
[00:26:42] been stopped by the police uh way back in when when
[00:26:45] the the parts weren't even prescribed going to
[00:26:49] ireland and that that was just all about interpretation,
[00:26:52] i remember one time they said well you can go like now off you go on the boat quick it's going to
[00:26:56] shut soon and they knew
[00:26:57] it was already shot they just did it to to annoy us you know that's the
[00:27:01] long history the'. branch: sure, sure, no, indeed, indeed, indeed.
[00:27:05] Well, I'm afraid that's what we got time for today, so I'd like to thank our guest am
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[00:27:32] This is Chris Williamson saying bye for
[00:27:34] now.
[00:27:51] Hello, welcome to unscripted with me. In this edition the program, we have
[00:27:55] the pleasure of having with us major general Mohsen Rizai.
[00:27:59] Thank you for having me. Now Dr. Mohsen Rizay is
[00:28:32] responded to the US secretary of state Marco Rubio and his secretary of state
[00:28:36] Marco Rubio and his viile statements against Iran while
[00:28:40] he was in
[00:28:40] Greece.in
[00:28:48] us in the special edition the program
[00:28:50] unscripted.
[00:29:02] نحن الحمد لله بنصبر ابنائنا
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[00:29:23] حيدومست
[00:29:28] begin
[00:29:28] to you imagine
[00:29:29] even what that it can't means to be displaced 15 times the problem. western
[00:29:33] feminism I think is more that it doesn't link the
[00:29:36] struggle of for example Palestine Iran
[00:29:40] wherever
[00:29:41] to the fight against imperialism
[00:29:43] and if you don't fight against imperialism then
[00:29:45] um
[00:29:47] you're not really tackling the root the
[00:29:49] problem.