PRESSTV — broadcast 20261012 223000 UTC 506 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] closer examination of how power, colonial legacies and [00:00:06] of of impunity continue to shape lives across the border. here is a brief [00:00:08] of report. [00:00:13] following the recognition of US independence by great Britain in [00:00:18] of 1783, American [00:00:19] of Westward expansion intensified involving the seizure of [00:00:22] lands, [00:00:24] of military conquest, massacres and forced displacement. US [00:00:28] military campaigns against indigenous were extensive, [00:00:31] of of contributing of to the destruction of communities and suppression of native [00:00:35] cultures. Estimates [00:00:36] of the indigenous population before European colonization [00:00:40] vary, but millions lived across North America. By [00:00:44] of 1900, the US census recorded around [00:00:46] 237,000 American Indians, [00:00:50] although historical census methods had significant [00:00:54] limitations. The widespread killings, forced removals [00:00:57] and cultural suppression have. led some historians to [00:01:01] characterize particular US policy and campaigns as [00:01:05] genocidal. California [00:01:07] in was one [00:01:07] of the most diversely populated areas for native [00:01:11] Americans, but the 1848 California Gold [00:01:15] of Rush brought 300 thousand people there who [00:01:18] enslaved native Americans and used them as [00:01:21] of a free source of labor. The California [00:01:24] of governor apologized to the state's native peoples in [00:01:27] 2019. Nuws said that it's called genocide, [00:01:31] there is other way to describe it, and that's the way it needs to be [00:01:35] described in the history books. when it comes to [00:01:38] genocide, [00:01:40] of massacker and killing innocent people, the US has a long history of [00:01:46] of of such crimes. the contemporary Ira is rife with such examples considering Washington's [00:01:49] approach to enforce its hegemonic policies outside the [00:01:53] US borders. the country's invasion of Iraq in [00:01:56] 2003 is one of those examples, the US attacks and the [00:02:00] subsequent occupation that [00:02:02] of took place under the false pretext of destroying [00:02:05] of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction of keys, the [00:02:08] of US of has never been, the US has never been alone [00:02:12] its crimes in west Asia, it's ally Israel [00:02:16] launched a genocidal war on Gaza [00:02:17] of in October 2023. The war has so far took the [00:02:21] lives of over 74,300 Palestinians [00:02:25] and caused devastation in the bessieg [00:02:28] the strip more. Recently the US and Israel [00:02:31] imposed two wars in Iran from attacks a school in the southern [00:02:35] city of Minab that killed 168 [00:02:39] civilians to deadly strike and a sports hall in lamerd [00:02:42] to [00:02:43] of attack against Iranian warship deny in international waters there [00:02:47] are multiple instances of war crimes in the two imposed [00:02:51] a wars of the genocide and disposition of indigenous peoples [00:02:54] in in the US did not end with history today the same [00:02:58] machinery of imperial power projects violence beyond [00:03:02] US borders [00:03:05] of of with a wars launched against other nations, including Iran, threatening innocent [00:03:09] lives. Allow [00:03:12] me to [00:03:13] of introduce our guests for this program. Timothy Mas [00:03:17] is assistant professor of international law, University of [00:03:20] Nicosia joining us from [00:03:22] Greece. [00:03:29] We also join. by Rafiki Morris, artist, activist, writer [00:03:33] and educator joining us from Washington DC in the [00:03:37] of US. Welcome to the to the [00:03:41] program, gentlemen, thank you so much for your time, allow me to [00:03:44] of start in Greece uh [00:03:46] of with uh Professor Timas. [00:03:48] I mean, if we look at the history [00:03:50] of the US imperialism, it's almost impossible not to [00:03:53] of connect of it with how the United State is running internally [00:03:57] its own um citizens from. from the attacks on [00:04:02] of African-Americans or the attack on migrants and the [00:04:05] institutionalization of violence that we now see on the US [00:04:08] streets. [00:04:11] of yes, first of all, thank you for hosting me. it is obvious that there [00:04:15] is a deeply [00:04:17] of [00:04:17] of of rooted of ideologization and of [00:04:21] violence within the within the US. we [00:04:24] know that the United States economic system [00:04:28] is was built. not only industrialization [00:04:32] and exploitation of workers, but also on [00:04:36] slavery at a mass scale. we know [00:04:39] that the colonial practices [00:04:42] of of [00:04:42] a the british empire [00:04:46] of transfer to to the united states as part [00:04:48] of their fundamental ideology, [00:04:52] the fundamental ideology is [00:04:54] in build, of united states fundamental ideology is build on the [00:04:58] the [00:04:59] of capacity [00:04:59] of to exp. band and take the land, [00:05:03] exploit the natural resources and [00:05:06] of ethnically cleans the lands, the [00:05:10] resources and the people of... of other of other origins, [00:05:14] including the indigenous populations the United [00:05:17] States, I think that now that the [00:05:21] US is declining, [00:05:25] this deep admiration of [00:05:28] brute force without any moral [00:05:31] constraint, [00:05:34] this arrogance of the force, I would say [00:05:38] is getting ever stronger, it's a... the [00:05:42] mentality the the establishment in the United [00:05:46] States sees victory as [00:05:49] complete humiliation if not [00:05:53] extermination of anyone who does not [00:05:57] accept to be subordinate to the [00:06:00] richest and in particular to the ultra [00:06:04] rich white people that govern the united states, [00:06:07] right? i see you shaking your head there, mr. [00:06:11] rafiki, and I like you to get involved in that conversation as [00:06:15] well, um, as an African, American, no [00:06:19] one is more a better position to tell us of how [00:06:22] this institutionalized um violence against um, [00:06:26] you know, people who refuse to bow or cower and [00:06:30] how um imperialism [00:06:32] and imperialistic um view continue to shape how [00:06:36] people are being treated in the [00:06:37] US, [00:06:40] well... once again thank you for having [00:06:44] us and I think this is very important uh [00:06:47] discussion that everybody needs to engage [00:06:51] it [00:06:52] um I [00:06:55] i the opinion that the [00:06:59] US treats Africans in that country [00:07:02] today the way they always have [00:07:05] and and similarly with the [00:07:09] native Americans and with um [00:07:43] this capitalist imperialist [00:07:46] system and the [00:07:49] violence in military form is [00:07:53] really just another manifestation the daily [00:07:56] violence that [00:08:00] people have to deal with in form of [00:08:03] economic exploitation and the form of racial oppression [00:08:07] a form of just downr social [00:08:11] degradation people. are suffering in this place [00:08:15] and that's the nature the place is to make us suffer [00:08:18] so that they can extract money, extract wealth, [00:08:22] extract resources from the very [00:08:26] people who are actually doing the work to [00:08:29] build this culture and this society, so [00:08:33] I i think it's um, I don't really [00:08:37] get too excited when it flares up, [00:08:41] because it's all... has been flaring up [00:08:44] and and the difference between [00:08:48] because look the did in gaza was started by [00:08:51] democrats and [00:08:53] then accelerated by republicans and this just [00:08:57] shows that the whole the state apparatus is [00:09:01] in this enterprise it doesn't [00:09:04] matter and it's not new the [00:09:08] question is how we going to resolve it and address it [00:09:12] so... that the the rights of human beings are being [00:09:15] protected um everywhere in the world and [00:09:19] it's not confined to the international scene is [00:09:22] happening right in the cities the united states and the criminal [00:09:26] justice system right and uh militarization [00:09:30] the police, it's all a part of a grand [00:09:33] design to exploit our [00:09:36] labor and to eliminate as [00:09:39] as our previous guest said anybody. who wants to [00:09:43] stand up for themselves, yeah, that's [00:09:47] that's the nature of this thing, right? so then the the question [00:09:51] then is, what is the way out if the United [00:09:55] States, which was built on you know the genocide the [00:09:58] indigenous people, the enslavement of Africans, uh, [00:10:02] the the migrants and Africans who [00:10:06] then build the US to become the power house that it has [00:10:10] become, how do we move on? from here, if [00:10:13] this is the status quo and this status quo is also being [00:10:17] exported to different parts the world, many of western countries like [00:10:21] Australia and Canada can also trace their own um [00:10:25] history to the same genocide, this question is for Dr. [00:10:29] Timas, where is the way forward, because many people are still [00:10:32] looking to this western country to save whatever is left of Gaza, [00:10:36] that is the international system, the two [00:10:40] ways, the first one is resistance from the rest the world, you [00:10:44] know, just as orientalism is is is [00:10:48] a colonial fantasy, there is no common [00:10:51] orient, the same is with the so-called west. [00:10:55] "the west is invention the colonial forces in order to be [00:10:59] able to to [00:11:02] present themselves as something different than colonial [00:11:06] forces. before the west we had the fantasy the [00:11:09] christian world or the civilized world or etc. in reality it was [00:11:13] always the colonial forces, the colonial imperialist [00:11:17] forces, so there is no west as such, [00:11:21] there are people oppressed in the west, but obviously people of this in the..." so [00:11:25] caled ways, but obviously people who suffer [00:11:28] directly from colonialism and imperialism suffer suffer even worse, [00:11:32] so the one way is resistance, and [00:11:36] this hurts [00:11:38] at the at the heart the whole ideology of [00:11:41] power, because it diminishes the fantasy of [00:11:45] power that is so fundamental for the US [00:11:49] establishment. the other thing that is [00:11:52] particularly important is: [00:11:55] internal, i would say revolution, but at [00:11:59] least opposition within the imperialist [00:12:03] powers, one the most significant [00:12:07] events, the the one is obviously the [00:12:10] the success the resistance from, the other, [00:12:13] however, is how much hateful is [00:12:16] Israel and also [00:12:18] capitalism in the [00:12:21] younger generations of us citizens? [00:12:26] and the two them, the resistance [00:12:29] outside the UN, the the rejection [00:12:33] the the the rejection of us, [00:12:37] that would say in general, that would say in general in [00:12:41] the so-called west are the most two significant events, because [00:12:45] actually now, although inside the United [00:12:48] States, as well as in other European as well as in [00:12:52] European states, it doesn't seem to... the first glance [00:12:56] very much likely to have revolutionary developments, [00:13:00] the conditions are actually deeply [00:13:02] confrontational, both in terms of ideology and [00:13:06] in terms of class interest, and in this regards the resistance front [00:13:10] gives lot [00:13:11] of lot of courage to the people even inside the [00:13:14] US and European states, because it shows that resistance can be [00:13:18] successful. okay, i'm going to cross [00:13:22] over to Mr. rafiqi, resistance can... successful, but [00:13:26] correct me if I'm wrong, um, many movements that came out [00:13:30] the liberation for the African-Americans in the United [00:13:33] States or class action were ultimately [00:13:37] repressed, it's one the reasons why we are taught [00:13:41] to love uh Dr. Martin Luther King, Bohr River or not [00:13:45] really want to be associated with Malcolm X, because his [00:13:48] version of resistance is translated as violent [00:13:52] and we're taught to not want to be violent. but to justify the [00:13:56] institutionalized and government and state [00:13:59] violence, well [00:14:02] um, well pose an interesting question, [00:14:06] resistance is resistance, and for [00:14:09] anyone to [00:14:13] put the resistance the civil rights movement [00:14:17] against the resistance the black nationalism with [00:14:20] mal x representative is a person who doesn't understand [00:14:24] resist. "these are two sides the [00:14:27] same coin, and nobody can say Dr. [00:14:31] King did not [00:14:32] purausly [00:14:36] speak to power in the interest the needs [00:14:40] the people, just as also spoke to [00:14:44] power, I think that what the issue [00:14:47] is which was properly raised is the question of [00:14:51] power, we we're not oppressed." [00:14:56] because we want to be oppressed, we're oppressed [00:15:00] because we don't have the power to put an end to our [00:15:04] oppression, so we have [00:15:07] responsibility to organize [00:15:10] ourselves to come together, and [00:15:14] it's it's it's a responsibility that we [00:15:18] have to ourselves and to humanity, [00:15:22] right, because that's the other side the point. "there's people [00:15:25] fighting against capitalism and imperialism and [00:15:29] colonialism and zionism all over this [00:15:32] world, these forces have to come together and [00:15:35] unite and..." form a united front [00:15:39] is capable of withstanding the [00:15:42] brutality these [00:15:43] of these oppressors and exploders the people, [00:15:47] organization and [00:15:50] consciousness, understanding [00:15:54] among the people are the key elements [00:15:57] to our our future, and we're [00:16:01] not going to defeat the most [00:16:05] nastiest econ. political system in the history of [00:16:09] humankind overnight, okay, so we have the [00:16:13] long-term plans. okay, allow me to cross back to [00:16:17] Greece, as a professor yourself, correct me, i'm wrong, but [00:16:20] there has been this massive change among the young people, [00:16:24] like you mentioned earlier, especially having watched the live stream [00:16:28] genocide from Gaza, and you speak about how that has [00:16:32] brought together this confrontation now with power, is [00:16:36] there hope that for the future generation who have now [00:16:40] learned the true meaning of capitalism and how [00:16:44] the violence that is being perpetrated against the people in the [00:16:47] west is also the one that is manifesting itself in another [00:16:51] form in other parts the world with it in Africa, Latin America [00:16:55] or West Asia, is there hope now in organizing [00:16:58] around the the valor and the bravery the [00:17:02] resistance to push back at [00:17:04] home uh the... level of [00:17:08] oppression um even [00:17:11] within [00:17:12] the US and in European states [00:17:14] and I'm talking about political oppression [00:17:18] which is growing, I'm not saying that we are in open [00:17:22] dictatorships, but there is [00:17:25] climate of of political [00:17:28] oppression, and in some cases [00:17:31] the the even proto-fascist [00:17:33] movements shows how much fear. [00:17:38] the establishment is in the US and in [00:17:41] Europe because the fact that especially [00:17:45] younger generations and exploited people begin to [00:17:49] wonder and the major question is [00:17:52] first of all, why [00:17:54] do we have to be complicit in such crimes? [00:17:57] secondly, why must we be get prepared to fight wars? [00:18:01] we don't even understand against Russia or against Iran, understand [00:18:05] against Russia or against Iran. and [00:18:09] potentially is very difficult [00:18:12] equation for the establishment to maintain [00:18:16] its ideological hegemony, the ideological [00:18:20] hegemony which was built first on anti-communism and [00:18:24] then on the idea that outside the so-called west [00:18:28] leave barbarians or that if you look [00:18:31] downstairs [00:18:32] at at the social scale even within [00:18:36] within at. capitalist western states, you will [00:18:39] see marginalized, [00:18:43] dangerous, ready to commit cs people, all [00:18:46] this ideological hegemony built on fear [00:18:50] is disintegrating, of course they have weapons [00:18:53] and they will most likely try to [00:18:57] renew the fear against some potential enemy [00:19:01] again, that's the one way, the other is some kind of [00:19:05] you know py intellectual mass hacking [00:19:09] with very sallow [00:19:12] emotional outbreaks that they know how to [00:19:16] engineer, they will even [00:19:19] formulate supposedly anti [00:19:23] anti-systemic movements which are deeply systemic, [00:19:27] most likely from the far right, like trump was for example, [00:19:31] don't forget that Trump was elected as a president of [00:19:33] peace, among other things, but yes, [00:19:38] "there is again the sense of struggle being [00:19:41] transferred within European states and within [00:19:45] the United States. there is a deeply rooted [00:19:49] economical, financial, cultural, [00:19:52] ideological crisis the people who possess [00:19:56] power in our states. [00:19:59] okay, um, professor themis mentioned [00:20:03] something very interesting, which is the ideological hegemony the United [00:20:07] States?" has and my question then to you, Mr. [00:20:11] Rafiki, [00:20:12] is are we nearing a point where this hideological [00:20:16] supremacy is dying um under the weight the [00:20:20] bombardment in Gaza, under the illegal um attack in [00:20:23] Iran and the murder of 168 school children [00:20:27] under the um attack by ice on the street the United [00:20:31] State where people have been murdered without um you know any [00:20:35] investigation or justification. Maybe we may be [00:20:38] nearing an end to that um ideological [00:20:42] hegemony and supremacy, do you think we are there or no, there's still [00:20:46] a long way to go? [00:20:50] i think there is some different times and i think [00:20:53] that um the the process of coming to [00:20:57] understand was happening in the world has been [00:21:00] accelerated in the minds of of many young [00:21:04] people um i was [00:21:07] privy to work with some the palestinians who was [00:21:10] incamping at George Washington [00:21:13] university and we saw freshman [00:21:17] students who barely knew the word [00:21:21] through their engagement in that activity and their [00:21:25] interaction with other militants and [00:21:28] organizations [00:21:31] accelerated their level of [00:21:33] understanding [00:21:41] capitalism and imperialism, [00:21:43] the their relationship to it, the relationship, the [00:21:46] necessity for organization, these are things. usually take [00:21:50] quite some time for people to grass, so I think that the [00:21:54] times that [00:21:55] we are in and the [00:21:59] access to information, even the bad [00:22:02] information accelerates or at least creates the [00:22:06] possibility of accelerating the [00:22:09] collective understanding the world that we give [00:22:13] and [00:22:15] the development of [00:22:17] development of. [00:22:28] to any kind of change that we want to make, so i do [00:22:32] agree, i capitalism and imperialism is desperate, that's why [00:22:36] they pushing this reactionary propaganda out here so hard [00:22:40] every every minute or every day, but that just shows that they [00:22:43] got to keep us confused in order to keep us [00:22:46] exploited, and and people are learning and growing and... "I'm [00:22:50] always enthusiastic about the [00:22:53] future. Okay, Professor Temas, we [00:22:57] we see current administration in the United [00:23:00] States um that is very bold [00:23:04] when it comes to how it disregards even the laws [00:23:07] the US and the US states has always tried to [00:23:11] um cover um from the the the [00:23:15] abduction of seating president in Venezuela um you know [00:23:19] to..." all of this pivot up and down the United States president [00:23:23] has been doing, do you think we like a previous guest [00:23:27] said that there is acceleration especially among the youth in seeing the true [00:23:31] face of imperialism and the rejection of it? um, is [00:23:35] that also reaction to why the US is taken [00:23:38] off some of this cover and just gone straight [00:23:42] to the imperialistic core and the way imperialism behave [00:23:46] with power? the U.S. [00:23:50] establishment is deeply anxious to catch [00:23:54] up with [00:23:55] the with its with the power that [00:23:59] it loses by accelerating its aggression against [00:24:02] its potential rivalries [00:24:06] um the US establishment will do [00:24:08] anything and will use any [00:24:11] potential weapon, [00:24:13] i think um to [00:24:15] to try and maintain its dominance and [00:24:19] hegem. exactly because it [00:24:22] cannot persuade even its own [00:24:25] people, one the things that that [00:24:29] came out as accident is [00:24:33] that because the massiveness of social media, although [00:24:37] despite the fact that they're controlled by big tech or by a handful of [00:24:40] companies, they need to have [00:24:44] massive amounts of of [00:24:46] users, makes it even for the... is not [00:24:50] more than four or five big companies to [00:24:54] control the whole of content, they need more and more [00:24:58] content, and that make creates gaps, holes [00:25:02] through which some aspects of reality [00:25:05] pass to to to massive audiences [00:25:08] and don't forget that it's been [00:25:12] 35 years since the soviet union [00:25:16] is gone, since then the united states tried to find the... [00:25:20] an enemy capable of [00:25:22] you know somehow creating some sense of unity [00:25:25] that the the its establishment could exploit, but [00:25:29] it has failed to do so. when you present yourself [00:25:33] as so strong that you have no [00:25:36] competitors, it becomes very difficult to find an enemy [00:25:40] that can persuade right, that be fearful for your own [00:25:44] people, so a way the united states are [00:25:47] feeling the outcome the... [00:25:50] on declared victory against the Soviet [00:25:53] Union, okay, and because of [00:25:57] communication roads that they opened themselves, right? I'm really [00:26:01] sorry, we would have enjoyed. to keep that conversation going, but we [00:26:04] are smack out of time. i like to thank both [00:26:08] gentleman uh, professor timmes seams, assistant [00:26:11] professor of international law, university of Nicosia, joining us from [00:26:15] Greece, we're also joined by Rafiki Morrice, artist, [00:26:19] activist, writer and educator joining us from Washington [00:26:23] DC, and to you our beloved viewer, thank you so much for [00:26:27] joining us on this section, goodbye for [00:26:29] now. [00:26:42] A story of Iran's resilience today, a US-Israel strike [00:26:46] during the 40-day war on Iran hit a laser and plasma [00:26:50] research facility in Tehran, and most people would assume that [00:26:54] means shut down, silence, damage, end of work, but [00:26:58] that's not what happened in the Islamic Republic of Iran, because within [00:27:01] days the... labs were running again, researchers back in [00:27:05] the building, equipment being cleared and experiments [00:27:09] restarting, so the first question writes itself, what [00:27:13] exactly was the US Israel strike supposed to stop? the [00:27:17] answer is quite clear, it was attempt to attack Iran [00:27:20] scientific infrastructure itself. many of you may [00:27:24] ask, but why? let's on foot that the facility is [00:27:28] a working research center focused on plasma physics, [00:27:31] photonic. mix, biomedical imaging and industrial [00:27:35] applications, the kind of science that moves between [00:27:38] medicine, energy and materials, and hey, it is not [00:27:42] just theory, the inventions are being applied in Eurons [00:27:46] hospitals, industry, pharmaceuticals, even for [00:27:50] gemstones. so if the goal was disruption, did the US and [00:27:54] Israel succeed? the clear answer is no. another question [00:27:58] pops up, how is the work already continuing? because Iranian [00:28:01] scientists are: framing this as deeper than physical [00:28:05] damage, they believe it reflects pattern, pressure on [00:28:08] Iran's scientific infrastructure, something the US [00:28:12] and Israel have been doing for decades, remember the target [00:28:16] killings of Iran's nuclear scientists and cyber attacks on [00:28:20] peaceful nuclear plants. Anyways, this attack was another [00:28:24] desperate attempt to disrupt years of research, expertise and [00:28:28] technology of research, expertise and technological [00:28:31] progress. Instead of allowing the strike to define the [00:28:35] institute's future, Iranian scientists returned and [00:28:38] restart projects at the center. The damage equipment [00:28:42] is already being replaced and in some cases upgraded within [00:28:46] domestically developed systems, so instead of shutting the work [00:28:50] down, the US is really strike appears to have accelerated [00:28:53] rebuild cycle, and that's how the Islamic Republic [00:28:57] works. [00:29:58] ما بچه های خلیج فارسیم اینجا برای ما [00:30:02] فقط. فقط یه دریا نیست [00:30:04] هویتمونه جایی که [00:30:07] کنارش بازی می [00:30:08] کنیم [00:30:13] روزیمونو ازش می [00:30:14] گیریم باهاش شادی می [00:30:18] کنیم و با صداش آروم [00:30:19] میشیم جاییه که [00:30:23] اجازه نزدیک شدن دشمنامون رو بهش [00:30:27] نمیدیم و تا همیشه ازش محافظت می [00:30:31] کنیم خلیل. فارس ما انگار یه کتاب [00:30:34] تاریخه هر کدوم از موجاش قصه های [00:30:38] قدیمی سرزمینمونو تو دلش [00:30:40] داره خلیج [00:30:44] فارس برای همه ما [00:30:46] ایرانیاست.