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[00:00:46] genocide but whatever they try palestine
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[00:01:02] Hello, I'm Chris Williamson and this is Palestine
[00:01:05] a
[00:01:05] of Declassified where we focus on the international struggle to liberate Palestine and
[00:01:09] expose Israel's efforts to
[00:01:10] of manipulate of the political class and corporate media. In today's show
[00:01:14] we'll be considering the impact of motion that was adopted by the Green Party of
[00:01:18] England and Wales at their recent conference in Brighton, which clearly stated
[00:01:22] that Zionism is racism. The motion also called for an
[00:01:26] end to
[00:01:26] of administrative detention, the depreption of Palestine Action. as a terrorist
[00:01:30] organization and the release of all Palestinian prisoners of conscience,
[00:01:34] including Mawan
[00:01:36] a
[00:01:36] of of Baguchi. We'll be discussing the significance
[00:01:38] of the Green Party's decision after this report on the background to this
[00:01:41] momentous political milestone and the fallout
[00:01:44] afterwards.
[00:01:47] Zionism is racism. That was the resolution passed by
[00:01:51] the Green Party of England and Wales at its autumn conference
[00:01:55] early October. The binding resolution passed by
[00:01:59] 12. 22 votes to 813.
[00:02:03] It was proposed by Lubn Speton, a British
[00:02:06] of Palestinian member of Greens for Palestine. The textum as
[00:02:10] quote: a political as
[00:02:13] of quote: a
[00:02:14] in political ideology, and quote, and sort and now seeks to
[00:02:18] maintain an ethno-nationalist juist state in historic
[00:02:22] Palestine to the exclusion and or domination
[00:02:26] of the non- Jewish population. It says that Zionism
[00:02:30] privileges one group on the basis
[00:02:32] of the subjugation
[00:02:33] of the others and has produced aparthyite
[00:02:36] regime. the conference resolved that
[00:02:39] zionism should be treated as
[00:02:42] of any other form of racism and that the green party is an
[00:02:45] anti-zionist party. the resolution also
[00:02:49] supports a single democratic palestinian state across historic
[00:02:53] Palestine, with al-Quds, Jerusalem as its
[00:02:57] capital, and the right of return for Palestinian. and their
[00:03:00] descendants, it reaffirms
[00:03:02] of the need for
[00:03:03] of boycott, divestment and sanctions, and a full arms
[00:03:07] embargo, and it supports the
[00:03:09] of Palestinian right to resist occupation.
[00:03:13] Despite over three years of genocide in Gaza,
[00:03:15] of the green party is the first
[00:03:17] of mainstream British political party to pass
[00:03:20] a resolution like this, a sign that attitudes even
[00:03:23] of in the heart of global imperialism are changing, but the
[00:03:27] Zionis did not waste any time. in launching attacks
[00:03:31] just as they had in the
[00:03:33] of months leading up to the vote. Israel's foreign ministry called the
[00:03:37] of resolution in
[00:03:37] a clear anti-semitic text and legitimize Israel's
[00:03:42] of destruction, banning the green
[00:03:44] a party's Jewish leader Zach Polansky from entering the zinus
[00:03:47] entity. furthermore, Briton's
[00:03:50] of chief rabbi Eframe Mervis called the motion poisonous
[00:03:54] of anti-semitism and a threat to British Jews. the board of deputies
[00:03:58] in Israel lobby group. group said the greens had become an extremist
[00:04:02] party and that the vote was attack on the Jewish
[00:04:06] in community, more over the European green party,
[00:04:09] umbrella group for green parties across Europe,
[00:04:12] unequivocally distance itself from the
[00:04:15] resolution, but the resolution was not
[00:04:18] of just opposed by outsiders. four
[00:04:21] of the green party's five members of parliament had also
[00:04:24] expressed opposition to the motion before the vote even took
[00:04:28] place, and other green party... grandes came out to condemn it
[00:04:32] after it passed. In spite
[00:04:34] of the intense backlash, the resolution sends a clear
[00:04:38] message that Zionism is racist
[00:04:41] of ideology and must be opposed, not just the actions
[00:04:44] of the zionist
[00:04:45] of
[00:04:47] a regime. Well, joining me to discuss this groundbreaking move by the
[00:04:51] green party, is the author and political commentator, Dr. Ashot
[00:04:54] Kumar who's a reader in political
[00:04:56] of economy at Burtbeck University of London, and he's also a... green
[00:05:00] party activist and I'm joined
[00:05:02] of as usual
[00:05:02] of by our resident expert in the UK's leading scholarly critic of Israel David
[00:05:06] Miller. David
[00:05:07] is also a co-director
[00:05:08] of the Lobby Watch Dog Spinwatch and a senior
[00:05:10] of research fellow at the Center for Islam and global. affairs Istanbul Zaim
[00:05:14] university. Welcome to the show. Well, I shock. I mean, what's the
[00:05:17] broader impact that you expect the green party's decision to
[00:05:21] have?
[00:05:21] I mean, there's been quite a strong backlash in certain quarters, but despite
[00:05:25] that, do you think the tide is turning against zinanism as an
[00:05:28] idea? Yeah, I mean, I guess the purpose of
[00:05:32] this uh,
[00:05:34] was, essentially to get to the
[00:05:38] core the problem. You know, this is, we didn't want to
[00:05:42] take... piecemeal approach, we felt like the
[00:05:45] approach of just simply identifying either our role in arms
[00:05:49] or our role in surveillance and that's a peacemeal approach and we
[00:05:53] wanted to talk and and instigate a conversation in the public
[00:05:57] arena uh about the
[00:06:01] ideological uh basis for
[00:06:05] the occupation
[00:06:07] but also it wasn't just it was also to reanimate
[00:06:11] the motion from the UN in the 1970s
[00:06:13] and it was also about
[00:06:17] um there were other bits to it
[00:06:20] you know like that were very important like we becoming an official kind of
[00:06:24] um a anti-zionist party uh
[00:06:28] was doing the first in the western world that we wanted to initiate that because we
[00:06:32] wanted to basically say there's no middle
[00:06:35] ground here you know there's colonialism is evil
[00:06:39] slavery is evil settler colonialism is... is evil,
[00:06:43] racism is evil, and therefore this
[00:06:46] zinism, as it's materialized in
[00:06:49] Israel, is racism and therefore must be
[00:06:53] condemned
[00:06:55] as an ideology, so it became very important for us
[00:06:59] to be very lucid and clear in that
[00:07:03] approach, and even beyond that that
[00:07:06] definition and that identification, and I think these are
[00:07:10] quite important things, but they were always, they were being. missed as a um
[00:07:14] abstract uh, even by some people that
[00:07:17] recognize the importance these so-called abstract discussions,
[00:07:21] so it's um, it goes beyond that by
[00:07:25] saying we believe a single
[00:07:28] state uh
[00:07:30] from the river to the sea with equal rights for all, the right to
[00:07:33] return, that's what it identified here, which isn't trying to the
[00:07:36] UN, and um uh the
[00:07:40] recognizes the UN core conventions right and
[00:07:43] like um, you know, element that
[00:07:46] says that uh, occupied people have a right to
[00:07:50] resist, and stands in full
[00:07:54] solidarity with Palestinian prisoners and calls for the deprescription of palestian
[00:07:58] action and the release of those prisoners, so there is no sort
[00:08:01] of um middle ground for us on this,
[00:08:05] it's it's very clear that we in part
[00:08:09] want to shift the um, the... the
[00:08:12] levels of solidarity and humanity that we
[00:08:15] recognize in Palestinians, all of which is really sort of
[00:08:19] entirely defendable under the UN core conventions, and
[00:08:23] even refugee conventions, etc., so international
[00:08:26] law, so it's not outside the bounds of
[00:08:28] that, but it's become unacceptable even talk
[00:08:31] about that, and we also wanted to make sure that we separate Judaism from
[00:08:35] zionism, that conflation to us, hurts
[00:08:39] Palestinians, hurts Jewish peop
[00:08:44] um and so this was actually in so many direction attempting to do that
[00:08:47] and is is attempting to do that um and
[00:08:51] we we think that we want to have a real conversation about the source
[00:08:55] the violence and that source isionism. well David, I mean
[00:08:59] the resolution that's been adopted by the green party defines
[00:09:02] Zionism as an ethnonationalist racist project that
[00:09:06] should be obvious obviously to everyone now, but I mean this is a pretty
[00:09:10] big step isn't it for the green party. to
[00:09:12] take, well, I guess it's been coming a long time, hasn't
[00:09:16] it? I mean, we saw about year and a half ago
[00:09:20] now, maybe two years ago, um, aza
[00:09:24] Sultana issuing the declaration, I'm an
[00:09:27] anti-zionist, and then of course we saw uh,
[00:09:31] Jeremy Kobin refusing to say he was an anti-sign, and then later on quite
[00:09:34] quite quietly saying that he was an anticionist, then we saw Zak
[00:09:38] Kowanski even saying that he was an antisignist at the same time as
[00:09:42] he... effectively said that he wasn't going to vote for the motion,
[00:09:46] so it's been a long time coming and but it is historic, it's the first
[00:09:50] mainstream is party to take such a position,
[00:09:53] and of course the uh the whole world is collapsed in
[00:09:57] horror and pearl clutching as result, so yes it's a it's a
[00:10:01] first step, it's the beginning and it's a serious motion, it's not just
[00:10:05] motion which says we are antisignist without having
[00:10:08] any content to that motion, which of course was the criticism leveled.
[00:10:27] frankly hero of our movement now uh so yes it's it's a very
[00:10:31] significant step but of course we need to build on it we need to build on it
[00:10:35] most obviously by just mentally siyenism as an ideology as
[00:10:38] movement in this country yes and
[00:10:41] you you alluded to the backlash there the the zionist
[00:10:45] colon is now banned zat polanski from from entering and
[00:10:49] yet they quite happy to have all manner of unsavory
[00:10:52] characters entering the the terror. what do
[00:10:55] you make of that? well they issued list
[00:10:59] didn't they the other week when uh Andy Bernum
[00:11:03] introduced his milk toast sanctions
[00:11:06] policy issued a list of of MPs who were now banned including
[00:11:10] Jeremy Corbert of course and the green party
[00:11:12] MPs some them but of course
[00:11:16] know you almost all them are I think all them are sionists uh you
[00:11:20] know only only said he's an antiscionist and it's open to
[00:11:23] question what that actually means in terms of his understanding of politics,
[00:11:27] because when he's talked about zionism, he's been one the ones who's who's
[00:11:31] adopted this affects position, oh there are a variety
[00:11:35] of sorts of zionism, some people just yearn in their hearts for a
[00:11:39] homeland, isn't it terrible that the yearning is called racism, well no,
[00:11:42] it's it's a racist ideology, yearning to replace the indigenous
[00:11:46] population of Palestine with a Jewish colony, call it a
[00:11:50] homeland if you like, it's still a racist proposition whether you do
[00:11:54] it or not, of course, it does require you to do it, and of course that's what the
[00:11:58] zionist movement did, as people
[00:11:59] have been saying, it's the practice the Zionist movement which is
[00:12:02] the important thing, and in practice what they did was they removed the
[00:12:06] the palestinian population, and of course they continued to commit genocide against them,
[00:12:09] yes, of course, of course, of course, and I think Zack is probably
[00:12:13] on something of a journey because his position is is harden, I think over the over the
[00:12:17] last sort of few weeks or so, and obviously still further to go, but let's see
[00:12:21] how that to develops, but shock, I mean the the motion,
[00:12:25] supports the the right of return for palestinians as
[00:12:28] otherers backing the boycott divestment and and sanctions campaign
[00:12:32] and also calls for a full arms embargo too, mean do you think
[00:12:36] these legitimate demands will have an impact on the overton
[00:12:39] window? well, mean i think that those
[00:12:42] demands uh, it reiterated
[00:12:46] some demands, but those most of those
[00:12:49] existed uh within party policy already, so
[00:12:53] we had already we have in full embargo is part of our pr, we already call
[00:12:57] it genocide, we already want a full economic sanctions, we already want
[00:13:01] divestment, before this motion was heard, there were separate motions,
[00:13:04] demotions that were about the internal policies the party, so we
[00:13:08] we also in our own decision making as a party would be would
[00:13:12] implement bds, boyot devestment sanctions, which passed almost
[00:13:16] unanimously, and then we also had
[00:13:19] motion to um prioritize
[00:13:23] with the councils that we run and... councils across the country that we prioritized
[00:13:27] divestment in those councils, which passed almost
[00:13:30] unanimously, so that's existed for years and years, that's a policy that
[00:13:34] we've been pushing for years and years, and actually central more than any other
[00:13:38] policy since 2024, i'd say
[00:13:41] the rise the green party into 2025 and
[00:13:45] sixfold increase from 50 thousand to about 25000
[00:13:49] is directly linked to palestine and our policies around palestine
[00:13:52] and the the grote. policies of this farmer government and
[00:13:56] now the burnum government is continuing that with some minor
[00:13:59] adjustments, so those policies already existed, and when
[00:14:03] you talk about the overturn window, i think the zionism question and
[00:14:06] the right to resist question and the
[00:14:10] zinanism is racism and the antisignism as official policy
[00:14:14] and the like single state and the right of return, those
[00:14:18] policies are about trying to shift the terms of debate, the
[00:14:22] overton window as you could call it or the um the
[00:14:25] part of to make a direct intervention not only in discourse
[00:14:29] but um the popular imaginary and the popular
[00:14:33] consciousness, but as much as one can as a party with
[00:14:37] five MPs, not an insignificant party, large third
[00:14:40] largest party in the country, but um I would
[00:14:44] say that if you um and so for those who
[00:14:48] say oh these are symbolic measures or whatever, we are a
[00:14:52] party that isn't in government and we're nowhere near government.
[00:14:56] "in essence, in essence, other than the stuff we do
[00:14:59] internally and the stuff we push for in councils and you control a
[00:15:03] number of councils especially in London, you could say all
[00:15:07] of our policies are symbolic, we could say that, they're all
[00:15:11] interventions, they're all public interventions, they're all trying to
[00:15:15] you know shift the political window,
[00:15:18] and so this is trying to do that in that in
[00:15:21] that um in that '
[00:15:25] tradition: well David, as expected, the the zinish regime
[00:15:29] as well as its UK assets, including Britain's chief rabbi
[00:15:32] and the board of deputies swiftly mobilized to attack this
[00:15:36] move by the green party. didn't they,
[00:15:39] but it's
[00:15:39] important isn't
[00:15:39] it, I think emphasize that, this is just another
[00:15:43] coordinated smear campaign, and it's
[00:15:45] not an organic response, is it? well,
[00:15:49] no, of course it's a coordinated smear campaign, but let's remember
[00:15:52] that the the majority the Jewish population in this
[00:15:56] country is zionist of one sort or another, of course there's
[00:15:59] arguments about how many people are turning away from zionis and whether that's
[00:16:03] increasing or not, but but all of organized jury is officially and
[00:16:07] and openly zionist, including of course the board of deputies, the Jewish
[00:16:10] leadership council and all the other organizations as well, so I saw
[00:16:14] people perclutching about this saying, oh it's terrible on the day when
[00:16:18] the largest massacre of jew since the holocaust meeting october the 7th
[00:16:22] has happened that they are demonstrating against jews, well no, none of that none of that
[00:16:26] happened, this is not a massacer of Jews on on October the
[00:16:29] 7th and whether it's larger or not than
[00:16:33] anything, and of course the they're not demonstrating against Jews, they're demonstrating against the...
[00:16:37] board of deputies of british Jews, which is an openly genocidal zionist
[00:16:41] organization, it says in its own documents that it coordinates closely with the ministry
[00:16:45] of foreign affairs, with the IDF and and of course with
[00:16:49] the the the zianist prime minister's office, this is a
[00:16:52] genocidal organization which ough to be shut down, the chief rabbi
[00:16:56] himself, he trained in two separate
[00:16:59] yeshivas in occupied palestine, both of which were
[00:17:03] hesivas, which means that you you do part of your
[00:17:07] time, tora and part of your time killing palestinian children in
[00:17:11] the in training in the to lecture us about to
[00:17:14] lecture us about no absolutely not, mean i think
[00:17:18] certainly we know don't we that zianists have have a pontion
[00:17:21] for hyperboly, mean you mentioned the the the
[00:17:25] chief rabbi, mean i got a quote from him here, mean he said that this
[00:17:29] is chief rabbai efram mervis he said that the
[00:17:32] motion um represented poisonous anti-semitism
[00:17:36] and a threat. to British Jews, and you mentioned the the board of deputies
[00:17:40] of well, they're claiming now that
[00:17:42] the the Green party is an extremist party, and even the
[00:17:45] European green party, the umbrella
[00:17:49] organization for green parties across Europe has has sort of distanced itself,
[00:17:53] hasn't it from unequivocally in fact to distance itself from
[00:17:56] from the move, so it certainly caused a bit of faulut hasn't
[00:18:00] it? yeah, I mean it's hilarious, isn't it? right back in
[00:18:03] 2018 with the campaign against Jeremy Corbin,
[00:18:07] campaign against Jeremy Corbin and of course if you remember what happened then
[00:18:11] was down said nothing, his advisers, his advisor said
[00:18:15] to all blow over by christmas of course it didn't all blow over and
[00:18:19] they got rid of him and that of course is the the decision which the
[00:18:23] activist in the green party and the greens from palestine are going to have
[00:18:26] to uh uh work on now is are they going
[00:18:29] to back off try and stay silent see if it'll blow over or are they going
[00:18:33] to go full tilt uh at the at the z
[00:18:37] to say no, you are racists, your movement needs to be
[00:18:40] demobilized and dismantled, and that means not just in Palestine,
[00:18:44] but in this country to every single one the 400 or so
[00:18:48] zionist organizations in the UK must be demobilized,
[00:18:52] dismantled and cease to exist, it's perfectly easy for them to do
[00:18:55] that, even today any
[00:18:59] Jewish youth group, any Jewish school, any Jewish synagogue, could say
[00:19:03] actually the zin have gone too far, the genocide
[00:19:07] is... calling we resigned from the zionist movement, anyone them could do that, not
[00:19:11] a single organization has done so in the last three years, the moment is
[00:19:14] now, no indeed, I mean
[00:19:17] you think that would be the minimum frankly that that
[00:19:21] that should be done, but but I shock, I mean the the zinish
[00:19:25] regime and the German greens and much the British
[00:19:28] corporate media have have treated the motion as
[00:19:31] antisemitism as an anti-semitism scandal even, I mean
[00:19:35] what what do you say about this manufacture? well,
[00:19:39] I think that that is something we're attempting to
[00:19:43] um combat directly with confidence and
[00:19:46] clarity. um,
[00:19:49] you know, it's it's anti-semitic to
[00:19:53] blame all Jewish people for the crimes the Israeli
[00:19:56] government, and that is something zinas attempt to
[00:19:59] do, because if you attach it to
[00:20:03] people's identity, it becomes such inbuilt sort of.
[00:20:08] defense mechanism, one, it makes people
[00:20:11] defend crimes even if they know them to be
[00:20:14] wrong, and two, you, it allows for people to
[00:20:18] say any criticism of zinanism is in effect of
[00:20:22] criticism of Judaism, and so that's essentializing, it's, it's,
[00:20:26] it's, it hurts palestinians, but it also
[00:20:30] hurts Jewish people, so we're trying
[00:20:33] really as patiently and as deliberately as
[00:20:37] possible. well to draw that distinction out and that was one the goals the motion as
[00:20:41] well. um, it's difficult to combat
[00:20:45] these, we're trying to learn from the past, we're trying to
[00:20:48] learn from the past.
[00:20:51] and not be apologetic for
[00:20:54] our anti-racist politics, that's what this is, this is
[00:20:58] anti-racist in every direction. well, David, I mean, what, what
[00:21:02] do you make the other political parties in Britain, and I mean we've talked about
[00:21:06] the, the fallout across Europe and all the rest of it, but the political
[00:21:10] parties in Britain have been falling over themselves, haven't they to condemn the Greek
[00:21:13] party for officially acknowledging that Zionism is
[00:21:17] racism, um, I mean, what do
[00:21:19] you think? what says about
[00:21:21] the the limits of electoral anti-signism in britan? the of
[00:21:25] course this is a full court press, all the mainstream media and indeed some the
[00:21:29] independent media uh attacking this, this is wasn't the right time, it's a
[00:21:32] diversion, let's not talk about racism, all this is academic
[00:21:36] discussion, all this nonsense that is coming out the mouths of people who should
[00:21:40] know better as well as the ones who of course don't know better uh,
[00:21:44] but that's the same with the the political system, the political system
[00:21:47] is uh is bought and paid for by the zionist movement, there is
[00:21:51] no MP in the house of commons who is standing
[00:21:54] up on regular basis dening zionism, and
[00:21:58] of course most the parties are almost all the parties are are
[00:22:02] zionist, we've even had green party MPs effectively condemning the
[00:22:06] motion and not supporting it, and of course that that's what will happen as
[00:22:09] we go forward, if the the movement allows it or it fails to
[00:22:13] combat them effectively, the MPs in charge the green party
[00:22:17] will quietly abolish this policy by and of course that's not
[00:22:21] that's not within the rules the party, but that's what they'll do, but every other
[00:22:24] party is sist party, is explicitly signed up
[00:22:28] designism, and that that's what you expect, the whole the whole
[00:22:32] system is now coming down on the greens and if they can withstand this pressure
[00:22:36] then we will will start to see the growing of antionist
[00:22:39] ideas, of course in my case you will recall
[00:22:42] we we won the position at the court case and then an appeal at that court case
[00:22:46] establishing the legal principle that it's illegal to uh minate
[00:22:50] against antizionis and now we're seeing this moving through the political system,
[00:22:53] antizionism is newly popular, newly respectable, and people are starting to
[00:22:57] understand what it means, of course what will happen is
[00:23:00] that they will throw their throw toys out the prim and
[00:23:03] say this woman, this woman who drafted this this motion
[00:23:07] is calling for us all to be killed, well she's only calling for us all to be killed if you
[00:23:11] misquote what she says and don't understand what she's saying, it's a nonsense, but of course that's
[00:23:15] what they all try and do no, i'm sure they will and indeed
[00:23:19] - uh trying to already do that, but
[00:23:23] I mean this has all very strong echos of of what happened
[00:23:27] to the labour party under Jeremy Corbin when he
[00:23:31] was the the leader, I mean that you know the furori, the manufactured
[00:23:34] furori that was created, the whole anti-semitism scam is is
[00:23:38] kind of it's on repeat isn't it, they're trying to do the same thing here, I
[00:23:42] suppose the difference with the green party is
[00:23:45] that the the uh the members seems to be more democratic
[00:23:48] organization. more so than what the labour party was, and in spite
[00:23:52] the some the resistance from senior figures in the party,
[00:23:56] the members of of parliament, members still pushed this onto the agenda,
[00:24:00] pushed it up the agenda, there was all sorts of efforts, as I understand it bause I was down at the
[00:24:04] green party conference to to delay uh discussion of
[00:24:08] it, but they the members insisted on it being debated, they
[00:24:12] managed to vote down all the wrecking amendments and
[00:24:16] and it carried the day, I mean do you... see
[00:24:20] echoes with with Corbin and do you see the green party being a better
[00:24:24] position to be able to withstand the the efforts the
[00:24:27] Zinist lobby to derail the the green party's
[00:24:30] move unlike the labour party which obviously did fall over as result
[00:24:34] yeah well yes and no
[00:24:36] I mean obviously there there are some key differences uh the green party
[00:24:40] as you say is much younger party hasn't got the
[00:24:43] accumulated history the labor movement on his shoulders and the procedures and
[00:24:47] bureaucratic procedures for doing things and that means it's lighter on his feet in
[00:24:51] some respects, but we we also don't know too much about the
[00:24:55] internal procedures in the green party, we know that some people have been suspended
[00:24:58] and expelled from the party for fake antisemitism
[00:25:02] allegations, and that's a very worrying sign that the same same thing could happen
[00:25:06] to to others, of course there will be attempts to mass report the people who were
[00:25:10] involved in the motion including lubna and of course comrade
[00:25:13] asok who's on the show just
[00:25:16] now uh so that will have we'll have to see how that's goes because of
[00:25:20] course what happened in the the corbin case was they appointed people who were
[00:25:24] convinced zionists to the disciplinary entity so that when the the disciplinary
[00:25:28] cases came they said well this looks like it's anti-semitism look it's a breach the
[00:25:31] IHRA look this is left-wing anti-semitism we must have these people out the
[00:25:35] party and that that was
[00:25:37] the that was the end because it wasn't just that the the zionists were pressuring from the
[00:25:40] outside it's that there were zionists inside the party making the decisions as
[00:25:44] well and that that's the key thing in the case the greens of course the all the
[00:25:48] mps with the possible exception of
[00:25:51] uh of um zach palanski are themselves zionists and they're very very weak the
[00:25:55] question of palestine caroline lucas atrociously weak on it uh the
[00:25:59] former MP and all the rest the MPs along with.
[00:26:03] Yeah,
[00:26:03] well, wel watch this with with interest, but I'm afraid that's all we've got time
[00:26:07] for for today, so I'd like to thank our guest Ashot Kumar and of course our residents
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