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[00:01:07] Hello, I'm Chris Williamson, and this is Palestine
[00:01:10] of Declassified, where we focus on the international struggle to liberate Palestine
[00:01:13] of and a expose Israel's efforts to manipulate the political class and corporate
[00:01:17] media. In today's show, we'll be considering the impact of
[00:01:20] motion that was adopted by the Green Party of England and Wales at their recent
[00:01:24] conference in Brighton, which clearly stated that Zionism is
[00:01:28] racism. The motion. called for an end to
[00:01:31] of administrative detention, the depreption of palestine action as a terrorist
[00:01:35] organization and the release of all palestinian prisoners of conscience,
[00:01:39] including Marwan
[00:01:40] a Bagucci. of We'll be discussing the significance
[00:01:43] of the green party's decision after this report on the background to this
[00:01:46] momentous political milestone and the fallout
[00:01:49] afterwards.
[00:01:52] Zionism is racism. That was the resolution passed by
[00:01:56] the green party of England and Wales and its autumn conference.
[00:02:00] early October, the binding resolution passed by
[00:02:03] 1022 votes to 813.
[00:02:07] It was proposed by Lubn Speton, a British
[00:02:11] of Palestinian member of Greens for Palestine. The text
[00:02:14] of the resolution defines zionism as,
[00:02:18] of quote, a
[00:02:19] in political ideology, and quote, and sought and now seeks to
[00:02:23] maintain an ethno-nationalist drew state in historic
[00:02:27] Palestine to the exclusion and or domination
[00:02:30] of the non-jewish population, it says that zionism
[00:02:34] privileges one group on the basis
[00:02:37] of the subjugation
[00:02:38] of the others and has produced aparthyite
[00:02:41] regime. the conference resolved that
[00:02:44] zinanism should be treated as
[00:02:46] of any other form of racism and that the green party is an
[00:02:50] anti-zionist party. the resolution also
[00:02:54] supports a single democratic palestinian state across historic
[00:02:58] Palestine with Jerusalem as its
[00:03:01] capital and the right of return for Palestinians and their
[00:03:05] descendants. It reaffirms the need for
[00:03:08] of boycott, of divestment and sanctions and a full arms
[00:03:11] embargo, and it supports the
[00:03:14] of Palestinian right to resist occupation.
[00:03:17] Despite over three years of genocide in
[00:03:22] of of Gaza, the green party is the first mainstream British political party to pass
[00:03:25] a resolution like this, a sign that attitudes even
[00:03:28] of in the heart of global. imperialism are changing, but the
[00:03:32] zionist did not waste any time in launching attacks
[00:03:36] just as they had in
[00:03:38] in of the months leading up to the vote. Israel's foreign ministry called the
[00:03:42] of resolution
[00:03:42] a clear anti-semitic text and legitimized Israel's
[00:03:48] a of destruction, banning the green party's Jewish leader Zak Polansky from entering the zionist
[00:03:52] entity. further more Britain's
[00:03:55] of chief rabbi Eframe Mervis called the motion poisonous
[00:03:59] of antisemitism. and a threat to British Jews. The board of
[00:04:02] deputies in Israel lobby group said the greens had become an
[00:04:06] extremist party and that the vote was attack on the
[00:04:10] Jewish community. Moreover, the European green
[00:04:13] party, umbrella group for green parties across Europe,
[00:04:17] unequivocally distance itself from the
[00:04:20] resolution. But the resolution was not
[00:04:23] of just opposed by outsiders. Four
[00:04:25] of the green party's five members of parliament had also
[00:04:29] expressed. opposition to the motion before the vote even took
[00:04:32] place and other green party grandes came out to condemn it
[00:04:36] after it passed. in spite
[00:04:39] of the intense backlash, the resolution sends a clear
[00:04:42] message that zionism is racist
[00:04:46] of ideology and must be opposed, not just the actions
[00:04:49] of the
[00:04:50] of zianist
[00:04:51] a regime. well, joining me to discuss this groundbreaking move by the
[00:04:55] green party is the author and political commentator Dr. Ashot
[00:04:59] Kumar. "who's a reader in political
[00:05:01] of economy at Burtbeck University of London and he's also a prominent green
[00:05:05] party activist and I'm
[00:05:07] of joined as
[00:05:07] of usual
[00:05:07] by our resident expert in the UK's leading scholarly critic of Israel David
[00:05:11] Miller. David's also..." co-director the Lobby Watch Dog Spinwatch and a
[00:05:14] senior research fellow at the Center for Islam and Global Affairs, Istanbul Zayim
[00:05:18] University. Welcome to the show. Well, I shock.
[00:05:21] I mean, what's the broader impact that you expect the green party's decision
[00:05:25] to have? I mean, there's been quite a strong backlash in certain quarters,
[00:05:29] but despite that, do you think the tide is turning against zionism as
[00:05:33] an the tide is turning against zionism as an
[00:05:35] idea? Yeah, I mean uh,
[00:05:39] was
[00:05:41] you know, essentially the... get to the core the problem,
[00:05:44] this is we didn't want to take a piece meal approach, we
[00:05:48] felt like the approach of just simply
[00:05:51] identifying either our role in arms or our role
[00:05:55] in surveillance, and that's a peacemeal approach, and we wanted to
[00:05:59] talk and and instigate a conversation in the public
[00:06:02] arena about the
[00:06:06] ideological basis
[00:06:09] for the occupation, but also... so it wasn't
[00:06:13] just it was also to reanimate the motion from
[00:06:17] the UN in the 1970s and it was also
[00:06:20] about um there were other bits
[00:06:24] to it like that were very important like we becoming an
[00:06:27] official kind of a antizionist
[00:06:31] party was the first in the western world that
[00:06:35] we wanted to initiate that because we wanted to basically say
[00:06:39] there's no middle ground here
[00:06:41] you know there's colonialism is evil, slavery is
[00:06:45] evil, settler colonialism is evil, racism is
[00:06:48] evil, and therefore this designism, as it's
[00:06:52] materialized in Israel is
[00:06:56] racism, and therefore must be condupt as an
[00:07:00] ideology, so it became very important for
[00:07:03] us to be very lucid and clear in
[00:07:07] that approach, and even beyond that that
[00:07:11] definition and that identification and I think these are
[00:07:15] quite important things, but they were always they were being dismissed as um
[00:07:18] abstract uh, even by some people that
[00:07:22] recognize the importance these so-called abstract discussions,
[00:07:26] so it's um, it goes beyond that by
[00:07:30] saying we believe a single
[00:07:33] state uh from the river to the sea with equal rights for
[00:07:37] all, the right of return, that's what it identified here, which is in
[00:07:40] shrined in
[00:07:41] the UN, and um the
[00:07:45] recognizes
[00:07:45] the UN court conventions right
[00:07:47] like you element
[00:07:51] that says that occupied people have a right to
[00:07:55] resist and stands in full
[00:07:58] solidarity with palestinian prisoners and calls for the deprescription of
[00:08:02] palestini action and the release of those prisoners so there is no sort
[00:08:06] of um middle ground for us on this,
[00:08:10] it's it's very clear that ' we in part
[00:08:13] want to shift the um the the the
[00:08:17] levels of solidarity and humanity that we
[00:08:20] recognize in palestinians, all of which is really sort of
[00:08:24] entirely defendable under the UN core conventions and
[00:08:27] even refugee conventions etc. so international
[00:08:30] law,
[00:08:32] so it's not outside the bounds of that, but it's become unacceptable even talk about
[00:08:35] that, and we also wanted to make sure that we separate
[00:08:39] judaism from zionism, that conflation to us
[00:08:43] uh hurts Palestinians, hurts Jewish
[00:08:47] people, um, and so this was actually in so many
[00:08:50] directions attempting to do that, and is is attempting to do
[00:08:54] that, and we we think that we want to have a real
[00:08:57] conversation about the source the violence, and that source is
[00:09:01] zonism. Well, David, I mean, the resolution that's been
[00:09:05] adopted by the green party defines Zionism as an
[00:09:08] ethonationalist racist project that should be obvious obviously.
[00:09:12] to everyone now, but I mean this is a pretty big step isn't it for the
[00:09:16] green party to take? well, I guess it's been coming a
[00:09:20] long time, hasn't it? I mean, we saw about year and a half
[00:09:24] ago now, maybe two years ago um
[00:09:28] as artana issuing the declaration, I'm an
[00:09:31] anti-zionist, and then of course we saw uh
[00:09:35] Jeremy Kobran refusing to say he was an anti-sionist
[00:09:37] and then later on quite quite quietly saying that he was an anti-sionist, then we
[00:09:41] saw... Zak Kolansky, even saying that he was an
[00:09:44] antizionist at the same time as he effectively said that he
[00:09:48] wasn't going to vote for the motion, so it's been a long time coming and but
[00:09:52] it is historic, it's the first mainstreamish party to
[00:09:56] take such a position and uh of course the uh the whole
[00:10:00] world is collapsed in horror and pearl clutching as
[00:10:04] result, so yes it's a it's a first step, it's the beginning and it's
[00:10:08] a serious motion, it's not just motion which says we are
[00:10:11] anti-zionist. without having any content to that motion, which of
[00:10:15] course was the criticism leveled at Zara Sultana was that she just said
[00:10:19] she was an anticionist actually saying what she meant by that now this
[00:10:23] motion sets out quite clearly. what's meant by that written uh, it
[00:10:27] seems largely by a Palestinian woman called Lna Spason
[00:10:30] who is frankly hero of of our movement now
[00:10:34] uh so yes it's it's a very significant step but of course we need to build on
[00:10:38] it we need to build on it most obviously by dismantaling zonism as an
[00:10:42] ideology and as movement in this country yes
[00:10:45] and you alluded to the backlash there
[00:10:49] the the zionist colonies now banned
[00:10:52] zak Polansky from from entering and yet the qu'... happy to have all manner
[00:10:56] of unsaver characters entering the the territory, what
[00:11:00] do you make of that? well, the issues are
[00:11:03] list didn't the the other week when Andy Burnum
[00:11:07] introduced his milk toast sanctions
[00:11:10] policy, so they issued a list of of MPs who were now banned,
[00:11:14] including Jeremy Corard of course, and the green party
[00:11:17] MPs, some them, but of
[00:11:20] course, almost all them are, I think all them are
[00:11:23] scientists - only the only exact Velansky has said he's an antizionis
[00:11:27] and it's open to question what that actually means in terms of
[00:11:31] his understanding of politics, because when he's talked about zionism, he's been
[00:11:35] one the ones
[00:11:36] who's who's adopted this effectively zionist position, oh there are a
[00:11:39] variety of sorts of zionism, some people just yearn in their hearts for
[00:11:43] a homeland, and isn't it terrible that their yearning is called racist? well no,
[00:11:47] it's it's a racist ideology, yearning to replace the indigenous
[00:11:51] population of Palestine with a Jewish colony called...
[00:11:55] homeland if you like is still a racist proposition whether you do it
[00:11:59] or not
[00:11:59] and of course it it does require you to do it and of course that's what the zinest movement
[00:12:03] did as people have been saying it's the practice in the zionist movement which is the important
[00:12:07] thing
[00:12:07] and in practice what they did was they removed the uh the palestine
[00:12:11] population and of course they continue to commit genocide against them yes of
[00:12:15] course of course of course and i think
[00:12:17] you know zack is probably on something of a journey bause his position is is hardened i think over
[00:12:21] the over the last sort of few weeks or so well obviously further to
[00:12:25] go, but let's see how that develops, but shock, I mean the the motion
[00:12:29] supports the the right of return for
[00:12:32] Palestinians as well as backing the boycott divestments and and
[00:12:36] sanctions campaign, and also calls for a full arms embargo too.
[00:12:40] I mean, do you think these legitimate demands will have an impact on the over
[00:12:43] to window? well, I mean, I think that those
[00:12:47] demands uh, it reiterated
[00:12:51] some demands, but those most of those existed.
[00:12:55] uh within party policy already, so we had already, we have an full
[00:12:59] arms embargo as part of our, we already call it genocide, we already want a
[00:13:03] full economic sanctions, we already want divestment, before
[00:13:07] this motion was heard, there were separate motions, demotions that were about the
[00:13:11] internal policies the party, so we we also in our own decision making
[00:13:15] as a party would be would implement bds, boycott
[00:13:18] investment sanctions, which passed almost unanimously, and
[00:13:22] then we also had motion to
[00:13:27] prioritize with the councils that we run and councils across
[00:13:30] the country that we prioritize divestment in those councils,
[00:13:34] which passed almost unanimously, so that's existed for years and years,
[00:13:38] that's a policy that we've been pushing for years and years and actually central more
[00:13:42] than any other policy since 2024, i'd
[00:13:45] say the rise the green party into
[00:13:49] 2025 and sixfold increase from 50,000 to about
[00:13:52] 25000 is directly. to palestine and our
[00:13:55] policies around palestine and the the
[00:13:59] groutes policies of this government and now the burnum government it's continuing
[00:14:02] that with some minor adjustments so those policies
[00:14:06] already existed and when you talk about the overturn window i think the zionism
[00:14:10] question and the right to resist question
[00:14:14] and the zinanism is racism and the antiism as official
[00:14:18] policy and the like single state and the right of
[00:14:21] return those policies are about tr trying to
[00:14:25] shift
[00:14:25] the terms of debate, the overton windows you could call it, or
[00:14:28] the the part
[00:14:31] of to make a direct intervention, not only in discourse,
[00:14:34] but the popular imaginary and the popular
[00:14:37] consciousness, but as much as one can as a party
[00:14:41] with five mps, not an insignificant party, large third
[00:14:45] largest party in the country, but i would
[00:14:49] say that if you um and so for those who say
[00:14:53] oh these are symbolic measures or whatever? "we are a party
[00:14:57] that isn't in government and we're nowhere near government, in
[00:15:01] essence, in essence, other than the stuff we do
[00:15:04] internally and the stuff we push for in councils and you know we control a
[00:15:08] number of councils especially in London, you could say all
[00:15:12] of our policies are symbolic, you could say that, they're all
[00:15:15] interventions, they're all public interventions, they're all trying
[00:15:19] to shift the political
[00:15:22] window, and so this is trying to do..." that in
[00:15:26] that in that um in that uh
[00:15:29] tradition, well David, as expected, the the zinish
[00:15:33] regime as well as its UK assets, including Britain's chief rabbi
[00:15:37] and the... board of deputies swiftly mobilized to attack this
[00:15:41] move by the green party, didn't they? but it's important isn't it, i think
[00:15:44] emphasize that, this is just another coordinated
[00:15:48] smear campaign, and it's not an organic response, is
[00:15:52] it? well, no, of course it's a coordinated smear
[00:15:55] campaign, but let's remember that the the majority the Jewish
[00:15:59] population in this country is zionist of of one sort or
[00:16:03] another, of course there are arguments about how many people are turning away from
[00:16:07] zionist. whether that's increasing or not, but but all of organized jury is
[00:16:11] officially and and openly zionist, including of course the board of
[00:16:14] deputies, the Jewish leadership council and all the other organizations as well,
[00:16:18] so I saw people perclutching about this saying, oh it's terrible on
[00:16:22] the day when the largest massacre of Jews since the holocaust meeting October
[00:16:26] the 7th has happened that they are demonstrating against Jews, well no, none
[00:16:30] of that, none of that happened, this is not a massacer of Jews on on
[00:16:33] October the 7th and whether it's larger or...
[00:16:37] than anything and of course the they're not demonstrating against Jews, they're
[00:16:41] demonstrating against the board of deputies of british Jews, which is an openly
[00:16:45] genocidal zionist organization, it says in its own documents that it
[00:16:48] coordinates closely with the ministry of foreign affairs, with the
[00:16:51] IDF and and of course with the the the zianist prime
[00:16:55] minister's office, this is a genocidal organization which ought to be
[00:16:59] shut down, the chief rabbi himself he trained
[00:17:02] in two separate yashivas in occupied
[00:17:06] pass and both of which... or hezder yeshivas, which means that you
[00:17:10] you do part of your time studying torah and part of your time
[00:17:14] killing palestinian children in the in training in the IDF, so these
[00:17:18] people have got nothing to lecture us about, no absolutely
[00:17:22] not, I mean, I think certainly we know don't we that zianists have
[00:17:25] a pontion for hyperboly, I mean you mentioned the
[00:17:29] the the chief rabbi, I mean got a quote from him here, I mean he said that
[00:17:33] uh, this is chief rabbim mervis, he said that.
[00:17:37] ocean um represented poisonous anti-semitism
[00:17:41] and a threat to British Jews, and you mentioned the the board of deputies of
[00:17:45] well and they're claiming now that
[00:17:47] the the green party is an extremist party
[00:17:49] and even the European green party, the umbrella uh
[00:17:53] organization for green parties across Europe has has sort of distanced
[00:17:57] itself hasn't it from unequivocally in fact it distanced
[00:18:01] itself from from the move, so it certainly caused a bit of fauller
[00:18:04] hasn't it? yeah, I mean it's a weiris isn't it? right back in
[00:18:08] 2018 with the campaign against Jeremy Corbin and of course if
[00:18:12] you remember what happened then was Corbin apologized,
[00:18:16] hunker down, said nothing, his advisers, his advisor said till all
[00:18:20] blow over by christmas of course it didn't all blow over and they got
[00:18:24] rid of him
[00:18:25] and that of course is the the decision which the activists in the green party and
[00:18:28] the greens from palestine are going to have to uh work
[00:18:32] on now is are they going to back off try and stay
[00:18:36] silent see if it will blow? or are they going to go full tilt
[00:18:40] uh at the at the zionists and say no, you are
[00:18:43] racists, your movement needs to be demobilized and
[00:18:47] dismantled, and that means not just in Palestine, but in this country too, every
[00:18:50] single one the 4,00 or so zionist organizations in the
[00:18:54] UK must be demobilized, dismantled and cease to
[00:18:58] exist, it's perfectly easy for them to do
[00:19:00] that, even today any
[00:19:04] Jewish youth group, any Jewish school, any Jewish synego. could say
[00:19:08] actually
[00:19:09] the the zionist have gone too far, the genocide is appalling, we resigned from the
[00:19:13] zionist movement, any one them could do that, not a single organization has done so in the
[00:19:17] last three years, the moment is now, no, indeed,
[00:19:21] I mean, you think that would be the minimum
[00:19:24] frankly that that that should be done, but but I shock,
[00:19:28] I mean the the zinish regime and the German greens and
[00:19:32] much the British corporate media have have treated the motion
[00:19:35] as anti-semitism. as an anti-semitism scandal even. I
[00:19:39] mean, what, what do you say about this manufactured
[00:19:42] Furory? Well, I think that that is
[00:19:46] something we're attempting to um, combat
[00:19:49] directly, with confidence and
[00:19:51] clarity. Um, you know,
[00:19:54] it's, it's anti-semitic to
[00:19:57] blame all Jewish people for the crimes the Israeli
[00:20:01] government, and that is something Zinis attempt to
[00:20:04] do, because if you...
[00:20:07] to attach it to people's identity, becomes such inbuilt sort
[00:20:11] of defense mechanism, one, it makes
[00:20:14] people defend crimes even if they
[00:20:18] know them to be wrong, and two, you, it
[00:20:21] allows for people to say, any criticism of
[00:20:25] zinanism is in effect the criticism of Judaism, and so that's
[00:20:29] essentializing, it's it
[00:20:32] hurts palestinians, but it also hurts jewish
[00:20:35] people, so we're trying. trying really
[00:20:39] as patiently and as deliberately as possible to draw
[00:20:43] that distinction and that was one the goals the motion as
[00:20:45] well. um, it's difficult to combat
[00:20:49] these. uh claims, but we're trying to
[00:20:53] learn from the past
[00:20:55] and not be apologetic
[00:20:59] for our anti-racist politics, that's what this is, this is
[00:21:03] anti-racist in every direction. well, David, I mean, what,
[00:21:06] what
[00:21:08] do you make the other political parties in Britain and we've talked about the, the
[00:21:12] fall out across Europe and all the rest
[00:21:14] of it, but parties in Britain have been falling over themselves, haven't they to condemn
[00:21:18] the Greek party
[00:21:19] for officially that zinanism is racism. um, I
[00:21:23] mean, what do you think that says about the the limits of
[00:21:26] electoral antinism in Britain? the of course this is
[00:21:30] a full court press, all the mainstream media, and indeed some the independent
[00:21:34] media attacking this, this wasn't the right time, it's a
[00:21:37] diversion, let's not talk about racism, all this is academic
[00:21:41] discussion, all this nonsense that is coming out the mouths of people you should know
[00:21:45] better as well as the ones who of course don't know better uh, but
[00:21:49] that's the same with
[00:21:50] the the political system political system is uh is bought and paid
[00:21:54] for by the zionist movement, there is no MP in the house of
[00:21:58] commons standing up on regular basis in
[00:22:01] densionism, and of course most the parties are
[00:22:04] almost all the parties are, we've even had green party mps
[00:22:08] effectively condemning the motion and not supporting it, and of
[00:22:12] course that that's what will happen as we go forward, if the the movement
[00:22:16] allows it or it fails to combat them -
[00:22:20] the MPs in charge the green party will quietly abolish this policy by
[00:22:24] fiat and of course that's not that's not within the rules the party but that's what they'll
[00:22:28] do but every other party is sionist party is
[00:22:32] explicitly signed up designism and that that's what you
[00:22:35] expect the whole the whole system is now coming down on the greens and if they can
[00:22:39] withstand this pressure then we will will start to see the growing
[00:22:43] of anticius ideas in my case you will
[00:22:46] recall
[00:22:47] we we won the position a court case and then an appeal at that court case
[00:22:51] establishing the legal principle that it's illegal to uh discriminate
[00:22:55] against antizionis and now we're seeing this moving through the political system.
[00:22:58] antizionism is newly popular, newly respectable and people are starting to
[00:23:02] understand what it means. of course what will happen is that it will throw their part
[00:23:06] through their toys out the prim and see this woman, this
[00:23:10] woman who's drafted this this motion is calling for us all to be
[00:23:13] killed, she's only calling for ass to be killed if you misquote what she says
[00:23:17] and don't understand what she's saying, it's a nonsense. of course that's what they will try and
[00:23:21] do, no, I'm sure they will, and indeed are
[00:23:25] trying to already do that, but I mean this
[00:23:28] has all very strong echos of of what happened
[00:23:31] to the labour party under Jeremy Corbin when he
[00:23:35] was the the leader, I mean that you know the furori, the manufactured
[00:23:39] furori that was created, the whole anti-semitism scam is
[00:23:43] is kind of it's on repeat isn't it, they're trying to do the same thing here, I
[00:23:47] suppose the difference with the green party is that the...
[00:23:50] the uh the members seems to be more democratic
[00:23:53] organization, more so than what the labour party was, and in spite
[00:23:57] the some the resistance from senior figures in the party,
[00:24:01] the members of of parliament, members still pushed this onto the agenda,
[00:24:05] pushed it up the agenda, there was all sorts of efforts as I understand it because I was down at the
[00:24:09] green party conference to to delay uh discussion of
[00:24:13] it, but they the members insisted on it being debated, they
[00:24:17] managed to vote down all the uh wrecking. amendments and
[00:24:21] and it carried the day, I mean, do you see
[00:24:24] echos with with Corbin and do you see the green party being a
[00:24:28] better position to be able to withstand the the efforts the
[00:24:32] zionist lobby to derail the the green party's
[00:24:35] move unlike the labor party which obviously did fall over as
[00:24:38] result? yeah, well yes and no, I mean obviously there there are some
[00:24:42] key differences uh, the green party as you say is much
[00:24:46] younger party, it hasn't got the accumulated history the labor went on his
[00:24:50] shoulders and the procedures and bureaucratic procedures for doing things and that
[00:24:54] means
[00:24:54] that it's lighter its feet in some respects, but we we also don't know
[00:24:58] too much about the internal procedures in the green party, we know that some people have
[00:25:02] been suspended and expelled from the party for
[00:25:06] fake anti-semitism allegations, and that's a very worrying sign that the same
[00:25:10] same thing could happen to to others, of course there will be attempts to mass
[00:25:13] reports, the people who were involved in the promotion including lubna and of
[00:25:17] course comerade Ashok, uh on the show
[00:25:21] just now uh so that will have we'll have to see how that goes
[00:25:25] because of course what happened in the the corbin case was they appointed people who were
[00:25:28] convinced zionists to the disciplinary so that when the the disciplinary
[00:25:32] cases came they said well this looks like it's antisemitism look it's a breach the ihra
[00:25:36] look this is left-wing anti-semitism we must have these people out the party
[00:25:40] that that was
[00:25:41] the that was the end because it wasn't just that the zionists were pressuring from the
[00:25:45] outside is that there were zionists inside the party making the decisions as
[00:25:49] well and That's the key thing, in the case the greens of course the all the
[00:25:53] MPs with the possible exception of uh of um Zack
[00:25:57] Polansky are themselves sionists and they're very very weak at the question
[00:26:00] caroline lucas atrociously weak. it
[00:26:03] uh the the former MP and all the rest the MPs along with
[00:26:07] her, well we will watch this with with interest, but I'm afraid
[00:26:11] that's all we've got time for for today, so I'd like to thank our guest
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