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[00:00:08] For that,
[00:01:00] Thank you very much, thank you. The program begins with your early
[00:01:03] life, education and training, family background, your dreams
[00:01:07] and priorities during your student life. Thank you very much.
[00:01:10] Mr. Kakar, you gave me the opportunity. First
[00:01:13] of
[00:01:15] all, I was born in Quetta. My father was in the army,
[00:01:18] so there were postings. So my early education
[00:01:22] for yourself and for your was partly in Punjab
[00:01:25] and then partly in KP province, where he was posted. So it happened there.
[00:01:28] Later I
[00:02:01] Our progress can be very rapid
[00:02:05] if we pay a little attention to some of our
[00:02:08] basic structural changes.
[00:02:10] If we talk about energy,
[00:02:13] we currently have enough excess power
[00:02:17] production has also started, which is considered here.
[00:02:19] is leading these things. Along with that, we have,
[00:02:21] praise be to Allah, very rapidly adopted new technology ourselves
[00:02:25] in the private sector. This includes energy
[00:02:28] from solar and wind.
[00:02:30] And now the new policy we have made here,
[00:02:34] in it, we are bringing battery energy storage systems.
[00:02:37] This is a completely new concept that is spreading very rapidly
[00:02:40] in the world, and in Pakistan, already, approximately three
[00:02:43] thousand megawatts of battery energy storage systems have been installed. Once the policy comes,
[00:02:47] I hope that by 2030, we will have installed approximately
[00:02:51] one hundred thousand megawatts of battery energy storage systems.
[00:02:54] Sir, you have a Master's degree in MBA from Canada.
[00:02:58] You have also worked in an international environment.
[00:03:02] How did you find the experiences
[00:03:05] of Pakistan? What difference did you feel?
[00:03:09] Look, there it has already
[00:03:12] happened. They have gone through this
[00:03:15] process. Where they had the instability,
[00:03:19] economic and
[00:03:20] political.
[00:03:23] We are still a new country. A young country.
[00:03:26] We are going through this process.
[00:03:30] So I would say that we are making better
[00:03:34] progress compared to the Western countries.
[00:03:37] Sir, you have been associated with this sector for the last three
[00:03:41] decades. Which project or achievement in your life
[00:03:44] Balochistan is a province will you remember throughout your life in your memories?
[00:03:48] I have done many things, Mr. Kakar,
[00:03:52] to further increase our exports. but perhaps
[00:03:55] I give importance to this job at the Engineering Development Board
[00:03:57] because here I am getting
[00:04:00] the most opportunity to serve Pakistan.
[00:04:03] And my
[00:04:06] mission and the government's vision is
[00:04:10] to industrialize Pakistan. In the next three
[00:04:13] or four years, we should be able to increase our exports
[00:04:16] to 60 billion dollars and
[00:04:19] create jobs for our youth, who are very capable
[00:04:23] and talented. Along with success, a person also faces difficulties.
[00:04:26] What was the most difficult phase
[00:04:31] the job of our government's in your career that had a major impact on your leadership,
[00:04:34] your thinking,
[00:04:36] in the world. So and your optimism? When you are leading an organization,
[00:04:39] there will be criticism.
[00:04:45] held seven or eight meetings A good chief
[00:04:48] executive should first consider
[00:04:51] what benefits the state will gain from
[00:04:54] the decisions he makes. The state is formed by
[00:04:58] its people. Those decisions
[00:05:12] have to take society along. So the challenges here are
[00:05:16] greater. You have worked on many large industrial
[00:05:19] and development projects in your life.
[00:05:23] In your opinion, what is the most important thing to make a large
[00:05:26] project successful? And
[00:05:29] investment, or technology, or human resources?
[00:05:33] The most important thing to make a large project successful is that it should be planned
[00:05:37] very well. And our objective
[00:05:40] should be set very carefully
[00:05:44] first, and then we should never lose sight of that objective. For
[00:05:47] business or any
[00:05:50] large project,
[00:05:53] money is never the actual
[00:05:56] problem.
[00:05:59] But what do you want to achieve from the project you are setting up?
[00:06:02] You should have clarity on this. Then
[00:06:06] you will be able to get the most benefit from that project.
[00:06:09] Sir, let's talk about your current responsibility.
[00:06:12] When you took on this responsibility, what were
[00:06:15] the biggest challenges? Secondly, please explain to the viewers
[00:06:19] about the Engineering Development Board what its basic purpose is
[00:06:22] and what role it is playing in industrial development.
[00:06:26] When I joined, the biggest
[00:06:30] problem in the Engineering Development Board
[00:06:34] was that there was a lack of human
[00:06:36] resources here. Over
[00:06:40] the years, these people retire.
[00:07:12] so that our economic development can be faster.
[00:07:16] There is a revolution all over the world.
[00:07:19] Of lithium-ion battery and cell manufacturing and battery energy
[00:07:22] storage systems manufacturing. And a revolution
[00:07:26] in solar systems manufacturing. Policies were needed
[00:07:30] for all of these. So the biggest challenge was that as soon
[00:07:34] as I joined, I had to start working on these policies. Alhamdulillah,
[00:07:38] Allah blessed me a lot. And by January
[00:07:41] and February, I had made all these policies
[00:07:45] and submitted them to the ministry. The new industry
[00:07:48] that will be set up in Pakistan needs to be export-oriented.
[00:07:52] Our exports are very low compared to other countries
[00:07:55] like ours. And for the existing
[00:07:59] industry, the biggest challenge is
[00:08:02] how to shift it from local production
[00:08:05] or producing for the local market
[00:08:08] to exports. So in all the policies I have made,
[00:08:12] I have made sure that such incentives
[00:08:16] are kept that can entice the existing
[00:08:20] industrialists to move towards exports
[00:08:23] and encourage new incoming industrialists
[00:08:26] to consider Pakistan as a destination of
[00:08:30] choice and come here and invest.
[00:08:33] And Alhamdulillah, since I came, we have secured
[00:08:37] almost 4.5 billion dollars in investment.
[00:08:41] Very good.
[00:09:01] Currently, many things are imported into Pakistan that we can manufacture locally. How is your local industry, local manufacturing strategy?
[00:09:05] In these policies, it has been ensured that imported
[00:09:08] items that are localized
[00:09:12] are localized rapidly. All the people from the
[00:09:16] concerned industry were brought together
[00:09:20] and policies were made with their 100%
[00:09:23] consent and approval.
[00:09:26] And with them, it was discussed in great detail
[00:09:30] what incentives we should offer
[00:09:33] for the existing industry and for the new ones coming
[00:09:37] so that they start exporting. And in them, export targets.
[00:09:41] The third thing
[00:10:55] is that they must export. We have made sure
[00:10:59] that they must export. What is made in Pakistan
[00:11:03] should be good enough to be exported to the rest of the world. So
[00:11:07] in terms of localization, we have added this to it. Are its local
[00:11:11] parts also manufactured in Pakistan? Yes, currently
[00:11:14] we have different percentages for different
[00:11:17] models. The ones that are doing the most are almost 60
[00:11:20] to 65 percent of the models that are being manufactured,
[00:11:24] their parts.
[00:13:07] So first of all, there should be a policy direction. A policy
[00:13:11] should be made, which I am working on. The
[00:13:14] second thing is that we will have to identify our market.
[00:13:18] Pakistan's embassies are spread all over the world.
[00:13:21] We have commercial counselors there. We need to get more
[00:13:55] truck tires are exported to America. That means
[00:13:58] we have exported to every country
[00:14:01] in the world, Pakistani-made truck tires. So
[00:14:05] the United States, which is a very competitive market when it comes
[00:14:09] to truck tires. We are currently bringing
[00:14:13] more incentives in this policy
[00:14:17] There is a huge vacuum in Pakistan.
[00:14:21] You yourself have been in this profession for more than three decades.
[00:14:26] I mean, your profession of 30 years is not a short time.
[00:14:29] If we talk further, Pakistan has a very large
[00:14:33] youth population. What can engineering
[00:14:36] do for their employment
[00:14:38] and skills, in terms of industrial development
[00:14:42] or other such sectors that we have many of in Pakistan,
[00:14:45] so that they also get employment? First
[00:14:49] of all, in our country, it is necessary that the economic
[00:14:53] development, the GDP, should remain
[00:14:55] above 4.5 to 5 percent. So
[00:14:59] that the new population entering the job market
[00:15:02] can get jobs. The second
[00:15:05] need is that we should have vocational training institutes
[00:15:09] where they are taught skills so that skilled workers come into the industry
[00:15:12] and get jobs quickly. Now, to do all this, the biggest
[00:15:16] need we have is to set up industries. If industries are set
[00:15:20] up, demand will be created. If demand is created, people will go to vocational
[00:15:23] training institutes.
[00:15:38] We haven't explored the world that much. Need to be
[00:15:41] brought back to the industry.
[00:15:45] they should be facilitated. When they come to us, they should not
[00:15:49] face any difficulty here. Their work should be done as soon as possible.
[00:15:52] And the biggest thing that I am working
[00:15:56] on is to digitalize this whole process. If we talk
[00:15:59] about the label. People say that Japanese products
[00:16:03] are Japanese. So Japanese quality is good.
[00:16:07] So
[00:17:37] we bring Pakistan towards A so that everything
[00:17:41] is introduced. Look at our home
[00:17:43] appliances, look at automobiles, look at our
[00:17:47] avionics, look at aviation, look at logistics, everywhere
[00:17:51] artificial intelligence plays a big role.
[00:17:53] The engineering department
[00:17:56] If we talk about CPEC, many industries
[00:18:00] were supposed to be built, which are not yet functional. Secondly,
[00:18:04] we can also set up micro factories with worldwide quality.
[00:18:07] We can also build according to that, so what are you
[00:18:11] people doing in this for the mobile phone
[00:18:15] policy? I have gone to the very last
[00:18:18] component, the smallest possible
[00:18:21] component.
[00:18:25] I made this whole mobile phone industry policy
[00:18:29] sitting with them. We have gone down to the smallest part of the lithium battery,
[00:18:33] and we have also created its new HS code. Whether a tariff
[00:18:37] was to be imposed or not, where it should be made, how long it should take to be made
[00:18:40] in Pakistan, what its localization should be. But my
[00:18:44] perhaps, if I say my
[00:18:48] overarching objective here, that
[00:18:51] is to develop industry in
[00:18:54] Balochistan, in which my
[00:18:57] objective is that two-wheeler
[00:19:01] industry should be developed in Balochistan. Besides that, as
[00:19:04] you just mentioned, the parts of mobile phones,
[00:19:07] which include chargers, wearables,
[00:19:11] dongles, should be manufactured there and exported all over the world,
[00:19:14] and the country's needs should also be met. If we talk further
[00:19:18] about minerals,
[00:19:22] that is full of mines. And
[00:19:25] Pakistan is an agricultural country. How
[00:19:29] can we especially improve agriculture through
[00:19:32] cold chain? Secondly, how can we utilize
[00:19:36] mines and minerals? In the lithium
[00:19:40] ion battery cell manufacturing policy that I gave, we have covered lithium. We have also covered
[00:19:43] sodium. We have also covered the new chemistries
[00:19:47] that will come. For agriculture, I am working on
[00:19:51] an agriculture policy, which includes
[00:19:54] agriculture done on a commercial scale, because Balochistan
[00:19:57] is almost 48 percent of Pakistan.
[00:20:01] And surprisingly, against common belief,
[00:20:05] some areas of Balochistan have good amounts of water
[00:20:08] where we can grow good crops that need water and that sell for a lot
[00:20:14] work is being done on a policy for this, and InshaAllah,
[00:20:17] they will make these indigenously localized things. I have also
[00:20:23] with various industrial groups, and they have developed three
[00:20:26] or four things in this, such as laser land levelers, seeders,
[00:20:30] harvesters. Work is being done on this. The rest have been developed.
[00:20:33] Mining is a very expensive
[00:20:36] project. And it takes a little more time.
[00:20:40] And wherever mining happens and you take it towards beneficiation,
[00:20:43] where the thing is taken to the end product and not raw material
[00:20:47] is exported, a lot of water
[00:20:50] is needed for it. So because of this,
[00:20:54] the cost of the project in Balochistan increases a little.
[00:20:56] Nowadays,
[00:20:59] innovation is coming on a daily basis. Things are
[00:21:03] moderating. Especially
[00:21:06] if we talk about research or innovation, industrial
[00:21:10] development is not possible without new technology.
[00:21:13] So what is your collaboration with universities,
[00:21:17] research institutions, and industry?
[00:22:09] In this, the biggest thing when we were making the policy,
[00:22:13] the industry was most concerned
[00:22:17] about the cost of the power sector.
[00:22:50] They will think about setting up new factories
[00:22:54] based on new technology, or there will be a slight
[00:22:56] delay. Last year, the Prime Minister went to
[00:22:59] China. And this year, lithium-ion
[00:23:03] battery production has started, and cell
[00:23:07] very difficult. At present, almost
[00:23:09] 2.5 billion dollars are being invested.
[00:23:13] In the production of lithium-ion cells. I am not talking about battery production.
[00:23:16] From very small parts, the cell.
[00:23:44] faith, unity, and discipline, if we focus
[00:23:46] and we work towards it in the next four or five years,
[00:24:50] from the world situation, where there is not just
[00:24:53] noise, but argument, this is World
[00:24:56] View with Sadia
[00:24:58] Afsar.
[00:25:06] No power is greater than truth, but who will
[00:25:09] bring this reality to light? Behind every headline, there is an
[00:25:12] untold story. Without research and verification, this story
[00:25:16] remains unheard. To know the truth of every news,
[00:25:52] you also have the right to know the truth, and so do
[00:25:56] I.
[00:26:00] What are we doing? Justice with
[00:26:03] truth.
[00:26:10] The truth is that speaking,
[00:26:13] listening, and tolerating the truth is difficult.
[00:26:16] We will continue
[00:26:20] our efforts to bring facts to light
[00:26:23] and expose lies. In the program "Sach Toh Yeh Hai"
[00:26:27] (The Truth Is).
[00:26:28] Poisonous dust and
[00:26:50] poisonous smoke from fuel, for how long?
[00:26:54] Now is the time for clean and environment-friendly
[00:26:58] travel. Zero carbon emissions,
[00:27:01] relief from noise, and a reduction
[00:27:04] of up to 70 percent in travel expenses.
[00:27:08] With special concessions and easy installments from the federal
[00:27:11] and Punjab governments, modern travel with e-bikes
[00:27:15] is now within reach of every citizen. Compared to vehicles running
[00:27:19] on fuel, electric vehicles are a better
[00:27:21] choice. Save the environment
[00:27:25] future generations.
[00:29:02] and Pakistanis have defeated all these difficulties.
[00:29:06] So why don't we move forward as
[00:29:09] one? Opportunities for investment in various sectors,
[00:29:12] potential for projects like CPEC,
[00:29:16] our youth. There are so many reasons
[00:29:20] for us to remain optimistic. Let's
[00:29:24] light the lamps of hope together for a bright
[00:29:27] future. Believe in yourself.
[00:29:30] Believe in Pakistan.
[00:29:51] Correct and timely!
[00:29:53] Blocking
[00:30:25] roads and disrupting public movement, the
[00:30:28] Islamabad High Court has clearly ruled it out, and now it is
[00:30:34] administration to ensure that there is no disruption of any
[00:30:38] kind. No violent group will come to Islamabad. The administration,
[00:30:41] police, interior minister, the entire government
[00:30:45] is absolutely clear.
[00:30:48] No violent group will be allowed to enter
[00:30:52] Islamabad. There are clear orders from the Islamabad High
[00:30:56] Court regarding road closures and disruption of public movement.