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[00:00:00] for a new model of development that will
[00:00:03] allow us to have a new cycle of prosperity in São
[00:00:07] Paulo, starting from what we have already accumulated,
[00:00:11] it can be a reality for our
[00:00:13] state, including, as a senator, I will help São
[00:00:17] Paulo defend itself from the great injustice that was done to São
[00:00:21] Paulo, which was this Trump tariff that was orchestrated by the
[00:00:25] Bolsonaro family, which is leading São Paulo to
[00:00:29] have a... loss of between three to 4 billion
[00:00:32] dollars that falls on agribusiness, especially
[00:00:36] coffee producers, falls on the footwear
[00:00:39] industry, on our ethanol and also
[00:00:42] on our auto parts industry, more than
[00:00:46] 30% of Brazilian agribusiness, in the
[00:00:50] case of São Paulo agribusiness, is affected by
[00:00:53] this 27% tariff. As a senator, I will work to
[00:00:57] defend our sovereignty and the... interests of the State of
[00:01:01] São Paulo, I cannot agree with this
[00:01:05] attitude of orchestrating and plotting against Brazil and São
[00:01:08] Paulo, those who are negligent or those who
[00:01:11] say, like Governor Tarcísio, that this is not his problem, this is a problem
[00:01:15] and it is a serious problem, this takes away jobs, this takes away
[00:01:19] income and this takes away the opportunities of São
[00:01:22] Paulo and Brazil unfairly by a president
[00:01:26] of the republic who on the day of our independence had... were
[00:01:30] people who had the courage to bring
[00:01:33] a figure who unfairly labeled Brazil, who
[00:01:37] pressures Brazilian agriculture, Brazilian industry,
[00:01:40] Brazilian jobs, I cannot understand such a thing,
[00:01:44] Gustavo, candidate, you mentioned agribusiness,
[00:01:48] which is a giant here in the state of São Paulo, and the question is,
[00:01:52] how do you intend to work so that these sectors employ
[00:01:56] more, also the industrial region of São Paulo.
[00:02:00] and generate more wealth for the state, preserving your
[00:02:03] agenda, which is a climate agenda, for which you are
[00:02:06] also recognized worldwide for this global agenda, are there
[00:02:10] contradictions or can they go together? they go
[00:02:13] perfectly together, no, not even a question of
[00:02:17] reconciling, because it seems like there is opposition, it's about
[00:02:20] integrating the two things in the same process,
[00:02:24] in the same dynamic, most of Brazilian
[00:02:28] agribusiness already understands. already practices this,
[00:02:31] only 1% of agribusiness are those who
[00:02:35] are against environmental legislation, against
[00:02:38] developing and protecting, 99%
[00:02:42] already does its homework, in the case of São Paulo,
[00:02:46] this is even more accentuated, this
[00:02:49] integration, why? because São Paulo agribusiness is highly
[00:02:53] technological, here no one
[00:02:56] about sports betting, the increases production by expanding the agricultural frontier, because there is no more room to expand.
[00:03:00] Here production is increased by productivity gains, it's
[00:03:04] technology, it's innovation, it's research, here there is a
[00:03:07] very synergistic meeting between public
[00:03:10] research from public bodies, whether state or
[00:03:14] federal government through Embrapa, and the
[00:03:17] research centers within the
[00:03:20] position on the private sector itself that have enormous accumulation, so Brazilian agribusiness
[00:03:23] has been gaining more and more space
[00:03:27] in foreign
[00:03:30] markets precisely because of its nutritional quality, its
[00:03:33] sanitary quality, because of the quantity and frequency
[00:03:37] with which we are able to produce and
[00:03:39] mainly because in the last 3 and a half years we
[00:03:43] managed to give an answer, because we were always accused of
[00:03:47] not being able to enter certain markets, because this
[00:03:50] was being done with deforestation, deforestation
[00:03:54] fell 50% in the Amazon,
[00:03:57] 61% in the Atlantic Forest and 3 2% in the
[00:04:00] cerrado, so we removed the arguments and with that we have already
[00:04:04] opened more than 600 markets for Brazilian
[00:04:07] agribusiness, therefore it is perfectly
[00:04:10] possible to make this integration.
[00:04:13] Candidate, what instrument do you propose then to generate
[00:04:17] the green jobs that you promise in São
[00:04:20] Paulo, credit line, carbon market framework, clean industry incentives,
[00:04:24] I think the most important question is, in what timeframe
[00:04:27] will this become real jobs? "In fact,
[00:04:30] we already have many jobs that come from the green
[00:04:34] economy, the ethanol industry,
[00:04:37] the entire sugar-energy sector are nature-based
[00:04:41] solutions, I even during the G20 meetings, I
[00:04:45] fought hard for Brazilian ethanol
[00:04:49] to be considered a nature-based
[00:04:51] solution, we already have many green
[00:04:54] jobs, whether in relation to alcohol production,
[00:04:58] biodiesel, in relation..." Even our paper and
[00:05:02] pulp industry, which is very efficient, we have
[00:05:05] green jobs in several segments,
[00:05:08] including in the production
[00:05:10] of... alcohol we go further, because we
[00:05:14] not only produce
[00:05:17] alcohol itself, we are also a great producer of
[00:05:20] energy, we have an economy almost in the
[00:05:23] sector of ethanol production of closed cycle
[00:05:27] where you can there close
[00:05:30] a cycle in a very sustainable
[00:05:32] way.
[00:05:35] Candidate, you know very well isn't it, but our voters sometimes
[00:05:38] don't know that a central function of a senator is to question.
[00:05:42] approve Supreme Court ministers, STF
[00:05:46] which today is immersed in an unprecedented crisis, hum,
[00:05:50] today we even had a decision by Minister Mendonça to remove the director
[00:05:54] general of the federal police from office, then I ask you: would
[00:05:57] you vote for these appointments to the court based on the technical
[00:06:01] criteria of the name or by the alignment with the government you
[00:06:04] support? the constitution establishes criteria
[00:06:08] for the appointment of supreme
[00:06:11] court ministers who have... good moral standing and
[00:06:14] technical competence, that is, notorious legal
[00:06:17] knowledge and experience, these are the
[00:06:21] criteria that I establish as a reference
[00:06:24] for the approval of ministers who may come for
[00:06:28] the senate's evaluation, it could never be
[00:06:31] different to reach the Supreme Court, in addition to
[00:06:35] notorious legal knowledge, of a whole academic background, a
[00:06:38] broad knowledge capacity and a...
[00:06:42] vision that must also have a view for the country,
[00:06:45] you must have experience, an experience that
[00:06:49] comes from a whole relationship linked to
[00:06:53] bodies that work with legal
[00:06:56] processes. Candidate, I want to talk about the water
[00:06:59] crisis that plagues greater São Paulo,
[00:07:02] also the increasingly destructive floods in summer, as
[00:07:06] one of the greatest authorities then eh climate authorities in the world, what
[00:07:10] project could you bring to the Senate to
[00:07:13] adapt this metropolis, going beyond
[00:07:16] that diagnosis that you already master better than
[00:07:19] anyone, what do we have to do precisely with this scenario that is
[00:07:23] increasingly looming in São Paulo? With
[00:07:26] certainly work so that São Paulo has some actions that
[00:07:30] unfortunately it still doesn't have, for example, in the federal
[00:07:33] government we already have PAC encosta, the
[00:07:37] drainage park which are billions of investments to do
[00:07:40] infrastructure work. Mainly in the part of
[00:07:44] slope drainage to protect people,
[00:07:48] we already have My House, My Life that also works with
[00:07:51] removing population from risk areas
[00:07:55] the adaptation plan, all states
[00:07:58] need their adaptation plans, in the federal plan
[00:08:02] we have the climate plan which is divided into two
[00:08:05] main axes, mitigation actions which is to reduce CO2
[00:08:08] emissions and this I can speak
[00:08:12] with authority. because we managed to reduce
[00:08:14] 750 million tons of CO2 in these 3 and a
[00:08:18] half years, but in the past we had already reduced 5 billion
[00:08:21] tons of CO2 during the period I was in the Ministry of the
[00:08:25] Environment, being the largest contribution ever given by
[00:08:28] a country to date, in the mitigation part, the climate
[00:08:32] plan has eight programs, the adaptation
[00:08:35] part which is what you are referring to, how to
[00:08:38] adapt cities, the municipalities that are vulnerable.
[00:08:42] extreme climatic events, in this part, in the
[00:08:45] climate plan, we have 16 programs, some
[00:08:49] of them we are even implementing here in São
[00:08:52] Paulo, there are some cities that are already
[00:08:56] functioning as a pilot, expanding the pilot
[00:08:59] phase to a program that scales up
[00:09:02] in the 177 municipalities that are
[00:09:05] subject to extreme climatic events, that is, torrential
[00:09:09] rains, as you said, at some moments are... heat
[00:09:13] waves, with the risk of fire
[00:09:16] drought, in the case of the Cantareira system, today it
[00:09:20] is in an alert situation, because September
[00:09:23] started with something around
[00:09:26] 33% of the useful
[00:09:29] water volume, right, of the useful water volume and of its
[00:09:33] useful volume and now if it reaches the end of
[00:09:36] September with something around 30%, this goes
[00:09:40] from alert to a... scarcity
[00:09:43] situation and in a scarcity situation
[00:09:46] you can have rationing, therefore expand
[00:09:49] investments so that we can have more
[00:09:53] water availability for the state of São Paulo, have
[00:09:56] programs for revitalizing basins, for restoring
[00:10:00] hydrographic basins, protect water sources, protect
[00:10:03] a whole part that is still affected by inadequate
[00:10:07] sewage treatment and avoid
[00:10:11] mistaken policies. as is the case of the privatization of
[00:10:14] Sabesp, which today is a serious problem for the State of
[00:10:17] São Paulo, many municipalities are already experiencing
[00:10:21] deprivation of water service and when
[00:10:24] it arrives. the water is muddy in the tap, many
[00:10:28] people are complaining because the water arrives
[00:10:31] in the middle of the night and in very precarious conditions
[00:10:34] of potability, there is also the problem that
[00:10:38] complaints increased by more than 100%, I think it's
[00:10:41] 190% after Sabesp was privatized.
[00:10:45] Candidate, under your management, Ibama released the
[00:10:48] oil drilling at the mouth of the Amazon,
[00:10:51] then came a... shortly after, the confirmation of oil
[00:10:55] indications, you ended up being outvoted within the government itself,
[00:10:59] as a senator, would
[00:11:02] you vote against the oil expansion
[00:11:05] that the government you support is pushing?
[00:11:09] Look, in fact, it's not that I was outvoted, in a
[00:11:12] republican administration, Ibama is the one who grants
[00:11:16] licenses, Ibama is a technical body,
[00:11:19] it denied the license twice, once
[00:11:23] in the Temer government, when the investment was still a
[00:11:26] private investment, then
[00:11:29] Petrobras acquired this venture and
[00:11:33] applied for a license, Ibama denied the license
[00:11:36] and it was a technical denial,
[00:11:40] Petrobras made a set of
[00:11:43] adjustments due to Ibama's demands and
[00:11:46] Ibama understood that it should grant the license, I
[00:11:50] had no political
[00:11:53] influence in the licenses and decisions of
[00:11:56] Ibama, Ibama knows how it does it? It gives the
[00:12:00] technical opinion, if it is yes, it puts it in the system, if it is
[00:12:04] no, it puts it in the system, precisely
[00:12:06] to protect itself that it is a technical
[00:12:10] license, this lesson was learned in the Bolsonaro
[00:12:13] government, because they wanted to pressure to grant
[00:12:16] licenses anyway, Ibama would put the technical
[00:12:20] opinion, so much so that when the president of Ibama overrode the
[00:12:23] technical deliberations, he was sued in court
[00:12:27] and still faces the process today,
[00:12:30] in my administration it is a technical license, there is no such thing as an outvoted
[00:12:33] vote, the technicians are the ones who make the decision, the decision
[00:12:37] whether or not to explore oil
[00:12:40] is not up to the Ministry of the Environment, it is a decision of the national
[00:12:44] council of energy policy, not even a
[00:12:47] decision of the president of the republic in isolation, it
[00:12:51] is a decision of the council that has several ministries with...
[00:12:55] with the presence of very high-level technicians from academia,
[00:12:58] precisely because it concerns the country's energy
[00:13:02] security, a country like Brazil that
[00:13:06] has varied sources for energy generation, has comparative
[00:13:09] advantages, here we can have a 100%
[00:13:13] clean energy matrix, other countries do not, but
[00:13:17] whether or not to explore oil is
[00:13:19] a matter of time, because the planet is warming, we
[00:13:22] were talking just now the... world will have to find other
[00:13:26] alternatives, it's good that Brazil can be one of those
[00:13:30] alternatives, including producing
[00:13:33] biofuels, especially in the case for
[00:13:37] aviation and for maritime transport, in addition to
[00:13:40] being able to invest in green hydrogen, Brazil
[00:13:44] can have a 100% clean energy matrix, help in the
[00:13:47] energy transition of other countries that do not have the same
[00:13:50] facility. I want to talk about another sector that is also emerging
[00:13:54] now. eh which is precisely the licensing of
[00:13:58] data centers here in Brazil, important for national sovereignty,
[00:14:01] digital expansion, but at the same time there are
[00:14:05] important structural environmental obstacles, especially regarding energy
[00:14:09] consumption and water use for cooling, how do
[00:14:13] you see then this licensing of data centers
[00:14:16] here in Brazil? Well, first it is necessary
[00:14:19] to consider that they are investment
[00:14:23] opportunities, a series of... factors that are considered by the Ministry of Industry
[00:14:27] and Commerce, the Ministry of Finance itself, the Ministry of Science and Technology, the
[00:14:31] various sectors, the Ministry of the Environment works in
[00:14:34] relation to the regulations so that these licenses are
[00:14:38] granted based on some criteria, not only economic
[00:14:41] viability and technical viability,
[00:14:44] it is necessary that they also respect local
[00:14:47] communities, respect areas that cannot be
[00:14:50] impacted by these ventures and with
[00:14:53] safeguards because they really have a high
[00:14:57] water consumption and this reverberates in some situations
[00:15:00] of water scarcity for sure, Ibama, the
[00:15:03] national water agency, several government
[00:15:07] agencies are creating protocols, safeguards
[00:15:11] so that these opportunities do not become a
[00:15:14] problem in the future, but it is an opportunity that
[00:15:17] within adequate criteria and safeguards
[00:15:21] can be perfectly viable.
[00:15:25] Candidate, I want to talk now, precisely about the 6x1 scale
[00:15:29] that can still be voted on in this legislature or then
[00:15:33] move on to a possible legislature in which you are a
[00:15:36] senator, how so? Would you then vote for the end of the 6
[00:15:40] by 1? Your concern if you vote yes
[00:15:43] for the cost to the small employer? I
[00:15:46] will vote in the Senate, God willing, if it is
[00:15:49] not approved before, because I already voted
[00:15:53] for the end of the 6 by 1 scale now in the Chamber of
[00:15:57] Deputies as a federal deputy, because
[00:16:00] people have the right to have two days of
[00:16:04] rest, it's absurd to imagine that someone will be able to
[00:16:07] recover their physical, emotional strength, have time
[00:16:11] to rest, be with their families, go to church,
[00:16:14] eh, study with only one day of rest,
[00:16:18] you can create transitional mechanisms thinking about
[00:16:22] small businesses, but let this not be an excuse for
[00:16:26] the worker not to have their necessary and deserved
[00:16:29] rest, even the companies that have already
[00:16:32] introduced on their own, right, the end of the
[00:16:36] 6x1 scale, they are saying that they have much more return
[00:16:40] than those who have not yet introduced it, the
[00:16:42] workers perform better, are more cooperative, are
[00:16:46] more creative and work
[00:16:48] with more eh eh, let's say, more
[00:16:51] happiness. You promise to end it, I want to talk now about
[00:16:55] health with SUS queues, through digital integration, eh,
[00:16:59] where will this money come from, where to get this money to clear the queue for exams and
[00:17:02] surgeries here in São Paulo, and why would digital integration
[00:17:06] solve what...
[00:17:09] management has not yet solved, in fact we have a government program that is being
[00:17:12] presented by Minister Fernando Haddad, these
[00:17:16] technologies to improve services have been
[00:17:19] discussed since the 2022 campaign,
[00:17:23] in the federal government we have advanced a lot in relation
[00:17:27] to these modernization processes, now
[00:17:30] it is necessary to look at what was done, the concessions
[00:17:34] for the OSSS, these concessions...
[00:17:37] right, they are today leaving the population
[00:17:41] adrift, not only queues, but a complete
[00:17:44] disorganization, I went to the interior recently and the
[00:17:48] mayors say that people are doing ambulance
[00:17:51] tourism, because there is no integrated system to welcome
[00:17:55] people, especially when it comes to medium and high
[00:17:59] complexity health care, people keep trying
[00:18:03] in one or another medium and high
[00:18:06] complexity unit to... get their health care, this is absurd,
[00:18:09] we have to work so that resources are used
[00:18:13] in the best possible way, that specializations
[00:18:17] are expanded, but that there is an intelligent
[00:18:20] system, because São Paulo has highly specialized
[00:18:23] centers in several regions, some municipalities in the
[00:18:27] interior have high excellence in health care, some
[00:18:31] specializations, it is not
[00:18:33] conceivable that people, citizens of the
[00:18:36] state of São Paulo are left adrift, especially in the
[00:18:39] interior. Candidate, I want to talk about public safety now, which is an
[00:18:43] anguish eh of the Paulista today,
[00:18:47] it is not usually your topic or not much addressed from this
[00:18:50] point. The public safety PEC is being processed
[00:18:53] in congress, I wanted your
[00:18:57] topic and also ask you what you say to
[00:19:01] those from your political camp who coddle
[00:19:04] crime? First,
[00:19:07] it is not true that it is not a topic that I
[00:19:11] am interested in, I am very interested. In
[00:19:15] 2010, when I ran for president of the
[00:19:18] Republic, Gustavo, for the first time, I proposed
[00:19:21] to nationalize the topic of public
[00:19:25] safety. At that time it seemed strange, because people
[00:19:29] wanted it to remain only in the hands of the
[00:19:32] state. They didn't want to deal with it at the national level. I
[00:19:35] proposed that it be a nationalized topic, because there I already
[00:19:39] realized that there was no way for the state
[00:19:42] alone to cope with what was coming, today this is a
[00:19:46] prophecy that has come true, today dealing with public safety is
[00:19:50] dealing with it in an integrated way, as proposed by the public
[00:19:54] safety PEC, unfortunately there are those who
[00:19:57] wage ideological war on everything, even to the detriment of
[00:20:00] people's safety, today violence has increased,
[00:20:04] cell phone robberies
[00:20:07] 20%. of cell phone robberies that happen in the entire
[00:20:11] country, happen here in the city of São Paulo, violence
[00:20:14] against women increased in a frightening way
[00:20:17] here in São Paulo it was an increase of
[00:20:21] more than 90%, only in 2025 we
[00:20:24] had 270 cases of femicide
[00:20:28] against the lives of women, now
[00:20:31] you look at this situation and say that public
[00:20:35] safety is wonderful.
[00:20:37] It's not, we have to debate public safety with
[00:20:41] three levels of action: safety
[00:20:44] for people's lives, because much of this domestic
[00:20:47] violence against women, against... children and against vulnerable
[00:20:51] people happens inside the home, have a protection network for women,
[00:20:55] police stations operating 24 hours a day and in
[00:20:58] a well-prepared way to be able to assist these
[00:21:01] women, in addition it is necessary to provide safety in public
[00:21:05] spaces, today people are constantly afraid of being
[00:21:08] robbed, especially of their cell phones and
[00:21:12] combat organized crime to be able to close the
[00:21:16] drain of crime financing, that's how we...
[00:21:20] will combat violence make public
[00:21:23] safety work, correctly remunerating
[00:21:27] police officers, it makes no sense for a
[00:21:30] police officer in the state of São Paulo, which is the richest state in the federation,
[00:21:34] to have a lower salary than in many states of our
[00:21:37] federation, it makes no sense that
[00:21:40] the elucidation of crimes here in the state of São Paulo is only
[00:21:44] 40%,
[00:21:46] when the investigation happens, when in other states it is... about
[00:21:50] 70% elucidation of a crime,
[00:21:53] therefore, public safety is a priority that I have been working
[00:21:57] with since 2010 and as Minister
[00:22:00] of the Environment, with inspection actions,
[00:22:03] combating crime, in relation to
[00:22:06] environmental crimes, in the Amazon we even had a
[00:22:09] reduction in violence of
[00:22:12] 15% in criminality, preventing 1,500 deaths
[00:22:16] per year. Let's talk about education, your platform talks
[00:22:19] precisely about strengthening Fundeb and connecting 100% of public
[00:22:23] schools, so imagine, you vote for the expansion of the
[00:22:27] Union's participation in Fundeb, even if this could end up
[00:22:30] pressuring the fiscal framework, also where to get
[00:22:33] the resources for connectivity that you promise, in fact
[00:22:37] we already have resources that are directly linked, earmarked
[00:22:41] for education, unlike the state of São Paulo that
[00:22:45] had, it's not about 30% of
[00:22:48] education resources. are earmarked which later made
[00:22:52] a PEC to change this, lower to 20%,
[00:22:55] 25% and be able to use it in health, in the
[00:22:58] case of education we will not treat this as if it were a
[00:23:02] cost or something that is a loss for the country, quite
[00:23:05] the contrary, for São Paulo it will be necessary to invest in
[00:23:09] education, because São Paulo is falling behind in education, it is
[00:23:13] falling behind Piauí, Ceará, Espírito Santo, Pernambuco,
[00:23:17] it makes no sense for a state like São
[00:23:20] Paulo to fall behind, we were in first place in
[00:23:23] 2015, we fell now in the Tarcísio government to
[00:23:27] 10th place, it's absurd that this happens,
[00:23:30] investing in education is investing in science, technology,
[00:23:34] innovation, more productivity, more jobs, more
[00:23:37] income and improvement in people's quality of life, we are running out of time,
[00:23:41] but there is still time to ask some questions, I wanted to know your opinion
[00:23:46] regulation, what is your position? Tax more?
[00:23:50] Restrict advertising or leave the market as it is? First of all,
[00:23:54] I am against it. It is something that has led families to
[00:23:57] illness and indebtedness, at the same time, addicted
[00:24:00] people spending their income, where those most being
[00:24:04] harmed are women, especially women who have
[00:24:08] children, because they often mistakenly think that this is
[00:24:12] a form of income supplement, on the contrary, it is to
[00:24:15] get entangled in something that is very difficult and
[00:24:18] dangerous, to create... topics for these people
[00:24:21] to be treated, to make sure that propaganda
[00:24:25] had all forms of restriction
[00:24:28] and to move in the direction that this is not a
[00:24:32] legal mechanism in the reality of our country and about taxing the
[00:24:36] richest? I defended this
[00:24:39] at the G20 together with the government that it is necessary
[00:24:42] to tax large fortunes so that we can
[00:24:45] invest in climate, invest in combating
[00:24:49] ...great inequalities that occur on the
[00:24:52] planet and there are even super rich people who are
[00:24:56] also favorable and who have worked on this proposal because
[00:24:59] we are moving towards a situation of great
[00:25:03] suffering, including due to technological advancement. All right,
[00:25:07] candidate, our time is up for the interview and now we
[00:25:10] leave the stopwatch here with one minute for your final considerations, and
[00:25:14] first of all, I thank you for your participation and help to the voter
[00:25:17] to make the right choice. "First, I want to
[00:25:21] thank you for the opportunity of this conversation, Gustavo, because
[00:25:24] that's how we clarify to the voter the proposals we have, the vision we
[00:25:28] have, I am a candidate for senator, rest
[00:25:31] assured, as a senator, everyone will know what I am
[00:25:35] doing and who I am, we have two senators who today we don't
[00:25:39] even know what they are doing, one we
[00:25:42] know who he is, because he has the nickname
[00:25:45] astronaut and seems to live in the moon, we
[00:25:49] have a..." senator who has a physical
[00:25:52] disability, who is a woman I admire and who overcame herself, who is
[00:25:56] Senator Mara Gabril, but the other
[00:25:59] two senators, we don't know who they are or what they are doing. "When I am in the
[00:26:02] Senate, everyone will know what I will do, which is related to the
[00:26:06] proposals I presented for São Paulo and for Brazil, more
[00:26:10] jobs, more income, dignified life, my number
[00:26:13] is 180, so that Brazil can be a
[00:26:17] just, democratic, sustainable country, to defend sovereignty and the
[00:26:20] interests of São Paulo, Dial 180. Thank you,
[00:26:24] candidate, today I spoke with Marina Silva, candidate
[00:26:27] for Senator by Rede, to review this conversation in
[00:26:31] full. Just access the Record News channel on
[00:28:05] Renato, the Realtime Big Data Institute heard the voting intentions
[00:28:08] of voters in Minas Gerais for governor. The margin of error is two
[00:28:12] percentage points, plus or minus. We start with the stimulated
[00:28:16] poll in which the names of the candidates are presented. Cleitinho
[00:28:19] Azevedo of Republicans has
[00:28:22] 31% of the voting intentions, followed by Patruza Ananias of the
[00:28:25] PT, who has 17%. In
[00:28:28] third place, candidate Alexandre Calil of the PDT has
[00:28:31] 12%.
[00:28:36] Next, candidate Gabriel of the MDB has
[00:28:39] 8% of the voting intentions, then comes Flávio
[00:28:43] Rosquey of the PL with 7%. Ben Mendes of the
[00:28:46] Mission was the choice of 2% of
[00:28:49] voters and Indira Xavier of Popular Unity 1%. Candidates
[00:28:53] Túlio Lopes of the PCB, Rafael Duda of the
[00:28:56] PST and Henrique Áreas of the PCO together reached
[00:28:59] 1%. 5% of voters. one null or blank,
[00:29:03] 5% do not know or did not
[00:29:06] answer, there are several scenarios for the second round, let's go to the
[00:29:09] first scenario, Cleitinho Azevedo leads with
[00:29:12] 44% of intentions, Alexandre
[00:29:16] Calil is the choice of 37% of
[00:29:18] respondents, 12% said they would vote blank
[00:29:22] or null, 7% do not know or did not answer. In the
[00:29:25] second scenario, considering the second round for Mateus Simões, with
[00:29:29] Mateus Simões and Alexandre Calil, Mateus Simões has 37% of the
[00:29:33] votes, Alexandre Calil, 34%.
[00:29:37] 13% would answer, eh, answered that they would vote null or
[00:29:40] blank, and 16% do not know or did not answer.
[00:29:44] In the third stimulated second round scenario, Alexandre Calil is the
[00:29:48] choice of 39% of respondents against
[00:29:51] Patrusza Ananias who gets 38%.
[00:29:55] 12% would vote null or blank, 11% do not know or
[00:29:58] did not answer. In scenario 4, Cleitinho Azevedo
[00:30:02] has 43%. Mateus Simões 35%.
[00:30:06] 11% would vote blank or null, which is the same percentage as those who did not
[00:30:09] know or did not answer. Fifth scenario
[00:30:12] for the government of Minas Gerais, second round. Cleitinho Azevedo,
[00:30:15] 43%, 41% for Patrus
[00:30:18] Ananias. 10% would vote blank or null, 6%
[00:30:22] do not know or did not answer. In the sixth and last scenario, Mateus Simões and
[00:30:26] Patrus Ananias, tied at 35%.
[00:30:29] 12% would vote blank or null, 18%
[00:30:32] did not know or did not answer. The Realtime Big Data Institute also
[00:30:36] heard the voting intentions for the Senate. The poll
[00:30:39] counted, the first second vote, consolidated the results
[00:30:43] of these votes to a total of 100%.
[00:30:46] 21% of respondents would choose candidate Marília
[00:30:49] Campos of the PT. Aécio Neves of the PSDB and Domingo
[00:30:53] Sávio of the PL are tied at 14%. In fourth place
[00:30:57] comes candidate Carlos Viana of the PSD, with...