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[00:00:00] Good morning, thank you and this edition of
[00:00:02] Record News rural ends here, thank you very much for your
[00:00:06] company, have a great Friday, have a great weekend, see you later,
[00:00:28] and you're going to embark on a trip through... 14 cities in Italy
[00:00:32] to show how food, culture and sports
[00:00:35] bring so many Brazilians and Italians closer together.
[00:00:50] For days and days, this was the only view of
[00:00:53] men, women and children who crossed the
[00:00:56] Atlantic, grandparents and great-grandparents of many.
[00:01:04] In their luggage, in addition to the dreams of a better life, the
[00:01:07] memories of flavors, music,
[00:01:10] cities.
[00:01:13] The great immigration happened when Italy was going through economic,
[00:01:17] political and social difficulties. Entire
[00:01:20] families sold the little they had, leaving where they lived in
[00:01:24] and famous places in Italy, the Italian territory to embark on a ship to America.
[00:01:27] Between 1860 and... 1920, about
[00:01:31] 7 million Italians
[00:01:35] my mother used to say: "Oh, when you get to Italy, there's this word, that word," moved to Brazil with the idea of building a better life. One of the main exits to the
[00:01:38] Atlantic was here, in the Old Port of
[00:01:40] Genoa.
[00:01:47] Because here were the companies, here were the
[00:01:51] shipowners, 200 to 3,000 people
[00:01:55] together. Almost all of this was third
[00:01:59] class, immigrant class, this was a
[00:02:02] complicated life,
[00:02:11] think that's fantastic, I find it very curious, the the difference between social classes was already perceived by the type of luggage, immigrants
[00:02:15] used to use bags like these here to
[00:02:18] store the few belongings they had that they could
[00:02:21] take. However, merchants and aristocrats
[00:02:25] used chests and leather suitcases like these
[00:02:28] here. The difficulty was not
[00:02:31] only in arriving with suitcases, but
[00:02:34] also in sleeping and living among
[00:02:37] people, in this place here it was a
[00:02:41] male lodging where the beds were
[00:02:44] extremely close, everything was collective, some
[00:02:48] details, objects portray exactly how these
[00:02:51] immigrants
[00:02:52] lived.
[00:03:01] Here, in this place, everything is the same
[00:03:04] port cities, the as 150 years ago, photographic records and documents of
[00:03:08] entire families. The largest number of immigrants
[00:03:11] left villages and small cities like these.
[00:03:15] Most of the Veneto region, including the great-great-grandparents of this
[00:03:19] woman.
[00:03:22] This is the only photo of the couple together, shortly before
[00:03:25] embarking for Brazil in 1883.
[00:03:29] Emigra. a 2-month-old child, which was not
[00:03:32] a case, it's not just her who does this,
[00:03:36] we start to wonder, gosh, but with a 2-month-old child, one of 3
[00:03:40] years, 6, 11, 14 and
[00:03:43] 17 years, how much difficulty this person
[00:03:46] went through,
[00:03:49] men and women came to work on coffee farms in São
[00:03:53] Paulo and Minas Gerais, to replace slave
[00:03:56] labor. The passages were paid by the Brazilian government.
[00:04:02] São Paulo had 30 thousand inhabitants, only in
[00:04:05] 1891
[00:04:07] almost 90 thousand people passed through the immigrant hostel, most
[00:04:11] of them from Italy, so you see that in just one year, three times the population
[00:04:15] that São Paulo had passed, but the
[00:04:17] country needed families to explore areas and
[00:04:20] definitively occupy Brazil. Lands were
[00:04:23] promised to those who went to the states of Espírito
[00:04:26] Santo, Paraná, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande.
[00:04:32] ricotta with egg They initially go to the Bento
[00:04:36] Gonçalves region, eh, stay there for a few years and then
[00:04:40] settle in the central region of Rio
[00:04:44] Grande do Sul, which is now called São João do
[00:04:46] Polesne. The communication with those who remained in the
[00:04:50] old continent was very limited. Letters were
[00:04:53] not enough for so much news. The family
[00:04:56] grew, children and grandchildren of Luigia of so many. The
[00:05:00] other Italians were born and grew up, I
[00:05:03] was packing my suitcase when I was little, I used to say:
[00:05:06] Lombardy, but especially the region of goodbye mom, I'm going to Italy, to grandma's land, I was 4
[00:05:08] years old, a photo published on the internet brought...
[00:05:12] clues for Katia to discover a part of the family that still lives
[00:05:16] in Italy. Two years ago,
[00:05:20] Hilenea contacted me through social networks because I had posted
[00:05:23] this photo that is in the book, which is the only photo we have of the couple who
[00:05:27] migrated and she already with the photo told me: but we are
[00:05:31] relatives, we are relatives, from then on
[00:05:34] a world opened up, a world that went
[00:05:37] many turns and a link, Brazil and Italy reunited
[00:05:40] again, following the dream of... a child, a gaucha
[00:05:43] descendant of the first Italians made the inverse path
[00:05:47] of her great-great-grandparents and came to live in Italy, but unlike the
[00:05:50] old relatives, the objective was not to explore new
[00:05:54] horizons, but rather to get to know her own
[00:05:57] history. After 150
[00:06:00] years, brought this whole circle back
[00:06:04] Luigia is us, is any immigrant
[00:06:08] woman.
[00:12:25] In this small town in northern Italy, Mr. Oreste,
[00:12:28] 88 years old, and his granddaughter, 33,
[00:12:32] converse in a dialect, a common situation in small
[00:12:35] towns.
[00:12:38] I prefer to speak the Venetian dialect than the Italian language, I only use it when
[00:12:42] writing. Even today, in fact, I even feel
[00:12:46] more from Veneto than from
[00:12:47] Italy.
[00:12:57] Visiting several cities in Italy, it is clear that
[00:13:01] the people are immensely proud of the place where they live, in addition to the official
[00:13:04] Italian language, each part of the country uses
[00:13:08] a different dialect to communicate among residents
[00:13:12] in the streets and also with
[00:13:13] family.
[00:13:17] Even with a fluent granddaughter, Mr. Oreste is pessimistic, for
[00:13:21] him not all young people know the dialect of more than 600.
[00:13:27] I regret that not all of the new generation continues like this, the dialect may be getting
[00:13:31] lost.
[00:13:35] What may seem like an alphabet soup coming our way,
[00:13:38] reveals one of the oldest civilizations in the world. In
[00:13:42] villages like these, even notices on some signs
[00:13:46] are written in dialect, like this one that indicates the name of a
[00:13:49] neighborhood. Leandro is Brazilian and when he came to work
[00:13:53] in this Italian city, the young man never imagined that the
[00:13:57] language spoken here was not Italian, but
[00:13:59] Bergamasco. Where I worked, people had been working at the company for 20
[00:14:03] years, 30, right, so they spoke Bergamasco
[00:14:06] among themselves, so, there were even funny situations because there was me and another
[00:14:10] Brazilian. Then my boss would come by and say: "Speak Italian!"
[00:14:13] Then he would turn to me and say, "But not even you speak Italian!" Like, he
[00:14:17] gave, right?
[00:14:21] In the great Italian division, each
[00:14:23] city had its peculiar
[00:14:26] dialect.
[00:14:28] Throughout Italy, it is estimated that there are at least 30
[00:14:31] dialects, according to this professor, languages restricted
[00:14:35] to small communities are millennia-old legacies.
[00:14:38] Dialects are older than Italy
[00:14:41] itself.
[00:14:43] Three great crowns of the Italian language, Dante
[00:14:46] Alighieri, Francesco Petrarca and Giovanni
[00:14:50] Boccaccio assomina this Italian as a model was
[00:14:53] something academic. In a special way, from
[00:14:56] 1500 onwards, Italian consolidated itself as a
[00:15:00] cultured language that was spoken in academies,
[00:15:04] in universities, something for the cultured that almost no one
[00:15:07] spoke in the street.
[00:15:11] In this other nearby region, one of the most beautiful in the country,
[00:15:15] is another dialect, a mixture of accents and expressions with influence
[00:15:19] from neighboring European countries, a
[00:15:22] mixture of languages.
[00:15:25] It's interesting because, for example,
[00:15:27] here,
[00:15:31] Italian lakes,
[00:15:33] the dialect has a lot of influence
[00:15:35] and words from... French and Spanish,
[00:15:39] but it also has words that are of Portuguese
[00:15:42] origin.
[00:15:45] This man runs one of the largest cultural study centers in
[00:15:48] Italy. For him, these combinations do not weaken
[00:15:51] the country or the Italian language, on the contrary.
[00:15:54] And
[00:16:01] they are a strong symbol of a national formation that continues
[00:16:05] for generations.
[00:16:10] A short time ago, Antônio had a surprise, he
[00:16:13] spent two weeks in southern Brazil and discovered that the
[00:16:17] old Italian immigrants had taken to cities in
[00:16:20] Santa Catarina the same dialects from regions
[00:16:24] in northern Italy. 500
[00:16:50] thousand people in 133
[00:16:57] Brazilian cities communicate like this in six states,
[00:17:00] including Santa Catarina, even separated by an
[00:17:04] ocean, two countries linked. more than
[00:17:08] 100 years,
[00:17:12] then when I got here I said,
[00:17:16] "Dude, that's not Italian," then I
[00:17:19] realized that was Veneto, because my mother
[00:17:22] lived with her grandmother and the words she spoke were Veneto, and you
[00:17:25] meet people like that, the older ones who don't even like
[00:17:29] to speak Italian, they say, "Oh, don't, don't call
[00:17:32] me Italian," so I
[00:17:49] seasoning is a family
[00:17:51] secret, she's saying it's like a
[00:17:54] muscle workout for the
[00:17:55] arms.
[00:18:02] But what in Italy is considered art deserves even
[00:18:05] applause.
[00:18:10] Thank you,
[00:18:13] today we are going to eat a very special dish from the Sotoriva
[00:18:16] family, we were invited to help prepare
[00:18:20] bigoli pasta, which
[00:18:23] is a type of pasta very common in the Veneto
[00:18:26] region and now I'm going to meet this family, Dona
[00:18:30] Maria Teresa, grandma, come
[00:18:32] with me. Ciao,
[00:18:35] buongiorno. Welcome, how
[00:18:38] are you?
[00:18:42] Maria Teresa, 82 years old, was born and raised in this
[00:18:45] small town in northern Italy, she is the one who
[00:18:49] makes the pasta. In addition to her experience, the recipe includes
[00:18:53] flour, eggs and a little
[00:18:55] wine.
[00:18:58] The shape looks like spaghetti, but it isn't,
[00:19:02] it's traditional bigoli is very traditional,
[00:19:06] bigoli itself is from...
[00:19:17] She mixes, kneads, opens the dough with great
[00:19:20] skill,
[00:19:22] the wooden rolling pin was made by her father and kept with affection
[00:19:26] until today.
[00:19:30] Salt in the water, pasta on the stove, she asks an
[00:19:33] important question,
[00:19:36] how many people are we?
[00:21:42] enough to create strong ties between Brazil and
[00:21:45] Italy, including between port
[00:21:48] cities, Santos and...
[00:22:07] We are within this partnership, moving many areas, the
[00:22:10] port itself, everything related to logistics and
[00:22:14] transport, another important point is tourism and Italians will
[00:22:17] be able to see where their grandparents arrived.
[00:22:52] Our team came to see the similarities and
[00:22:55] differences between Santos and its older sister
[00:22:59] Genoa. Genoa has more than
[00:23:01] 550 thousand inhabitants, a slightly
[00:23:05] larger number than the city of Santos. The old
[00:23:08] buildings invariably have green windows,
[00:23:12] but it's the shops and businesses that catch the
[00:23:15] eye. Some are 250 years old,
[00:23:18] like this one. One of the most traditional confectionery shops in
[00:23:22] the city, sweets that look like
[00:23:25] jewels.
[00:23:28] Anywhere in the world, ports provide economic conditions and are
[00:23:31] capable of changing a region. Today, Italy still breathes this
[00:23:35] proximity to the sea, but now with cruise ships for
[00:23:39] tourism. Logically, Genoa has changed. Today it is a city of
[00:23:43] gastronomy and reveals the modern way of life of
[00:23:46] Italians. And both here in Italy
[00:23:50] and in Brazil, the characteristic of
[00:23:54] friendliness and the cordial way of
[00:23:56] welcoming, is the case of the owner of this
[00:23:59] butcher shop.
[00:24:03] This test is very cool and old, and
[00:24:07] old.
[00:24:10] Mateu darkens everything and places one of the eggs for sale in the
[00:24:13] beam of light, he guarantees that this is the only
[00:24:17] test to know if the egg is fresh.
[00:24:21] It's easy, look, the less air inside the egg, like here on
[00:24:25] top, the fresher, logically, the product is not
[00:24:29] past its prime, with this, our customers can have a very
[00:24:32] fresh product, ideal for making good pasta or
[00:24:36] tiramisu, for example.
[00:24:40] The business is 113 years old, Mateu's
[00:24:43] of the fourth generation of
[00:24:46] merchants and are still active.
[00:24:52] We have been at this address since 1967
[00:24:56] and we use the same recipes. They
[00:25:00] guarantee delicious recipes and honesty when
[00:25:04] selling is what keeps the doors of all these businesses
[00:25:08] open for more than a
[00:25:09] century.
[00:25:12] What we do here is the same as what we would do in our own home,
[00:25:15] it's like this here and that's why I'm very
[00:25:18] happy.
[00:25:29] documents kept under lock and key,
[00:25:32] preserved with great care, if
[00:25:35] we put all the papers together, the pile
[00:25:39] would reach more than 14
[00:25:41] km.
[00:25:47] All the people who were born, married and
[00:25:51] died in northern Italy are registered
[00:25:54] here from 1871
[00:25:57] to
[00:25:59] 1945, if a person emigrated and then married in Brazil.
[00:26:10] In this room are the histories of many descendants of
[00:26:13] Italians, these are documents that help foreigners to
[00:26:17] prove that their relatives lived in Italy.
[00:26:21] Cássia came looking for these records and never
[00:26:24] left. Today, the Brazilian works and lives in the
[00:26:27] same city as her maternal
[00:26:29] great-grandfather.
[00:26:32] They never had the opportunity to see their
[00:26:35] family, see their parents, see anyone, they left everyone,
[00:26:39] there were no conditions to return here and be able to do
[00:26:42] this, I think it's a way to honor, right, all the
[00:26:46] suffering they went through, even to
[00:26:49] adapt, right, in another country and without anyone from the
[00:26:53] family.
[00:26:59] In this other city, the search for immigrant
[00:27:02] records, according to local authorities, has grown in the last
[00:27:06] 10 years. Per week, there are at least 30 requests
[00:27:10] for checking birth and marriage
[00:27:13] certificates.
[00:27:15] Today in the country there is a type of tourism focused on these people,
[00:27:18] descendants with a sentimental heritage, with the Italian language and
[00:27:22] culture. This Santa Catarina native came looking for her
[00:27:26] roots and chose to live in Italy.
[00:27:29] Glaucia remembers the feeling of walking through.
[00:27:36] where her great-grandfather passed, it's emotional, you know, the first time I
[00:27:38] was in the city where my great-grandfather
[00:27:41] was born,
[00:27:45] it gave me chills, you know, a feeling of, wow, it was
[00:27:49] from here, it was from here that he left, it's here that he
[00:27:53] lived, right, to be able to walk
[00:27:56] in the city where he grew up,
[00:28:00] look at the houses, even if they are not... the
[00:28:04] same way they were back then,
[00:28:07] just like Glaucia's great-grandfather, many
[00:28:10] Italians learned how to plant and harvest in
[00:28:14] cold climate areas, valuable lessons that many
[00:28:17] immigrants took to
[00:28:19] Brazil.
[00:28:23] Brazil gave land to immigrant families, but it was virgin land and
[00:28:26] even
[00:28:27] forests.
[00:28:32] After about 3 years it started to bear
[00:28:34] fruit.
[00:28:38] The main fruit cultivated is this: special
[00:28:42] grapes for wines, the climate of the region
[00:28:45] and the type of soil help.
[00:28:48] In these underground corridors, bottles and barrels
[00:28:51] rest while the fermentation of red wines
[00:28:55] takes place.
[00:28:58] We are exporting to more than 130 countries and this also
[00:29:01] generates development.
[00:29:36] We are known for, it's part of our culture, the Italian
[00:29:39] espresso and the cappuccino.
[00:29:43] The passion for coffee is so great that they also
[00:29:46] invented a dessert that has coffee in its recipe.
[00:29:49] We are in the Treviso region, which is famous for having invented
[00:29:53] Tiramisu and today we were invited to enter
[00:29:57] the house of a typically Italian family who
[00:30:01] makes Tiramisu. Let's go, ben
[00:30:04] venuta, now ciao,
[00:30:08] ben venuta. Morena is a housewife
[00:30:11] passionate about the dessert, her recipe book has more
[00:30:15] than 200
[00:30:16] pages.
[00:30:20] With great skill, she separates the yolk from the
[00:30:23] white, mixes six tablespoons of sugar and the
[00:30:26] yolks, while the egg whites are beaten until they become stiff
[00:30:30] peaks, then comes... coffee, mascarpone,
[00:30:35] cream, all in layers, a delicious,
[00:30:39] very creamy secret of a country,
[00:30:42] not so secret after all, cheers!
[00:30:58] You are very welcome.